/loosh/ - Loosh farming & random

>"Loosh"

>Not Mana, or at least SP, Chi/Phi, Pneuma/Rueh/Ruach/Rukh/Ruh or Prana

Why are you such special snowflakes? Do you really enjoy inventing those silly new terms literally out of thin air? I'm surprised you call yourselves "Wizards", despite term being mainstream in general fantasy too for Lawful Good magic users (opposed to "Evil" Warlocks), aswell as amongst normalfags who lately are into "nerdy" things like D&D too. Oh wait, but no! You also use "Magus", which is generally term refering specifically to the clergy of Zoroastrianism - ake Mobad, MAGE being term for the user of magic. Why such cultural appropriation? Do you want some Persian/Farsi or Parsi to beat you up for this desecralisation?

It sounds as laughable as "Energy/Psychic/Energetic Vampire", name which me being Slav triggers personally on every level and rustles my majongles quite srsly. I mean why not a fucking Chupacabra or something (Vampire like Striga must undo formal death, to be, well… undead), whose name quite literally means "sucker".

Your sincere – Mytholoy, history, fantasy, religion w/mysticism, legends & folklore student whose ignorance of charlatanry tingles bürgers personnelly.

If magic ("indeed") does real, then systems like D&D, Warhammer or hell even Megaten/SMT or the Witcher are better representatives of than any of you. I recommend starting playing roleplay fantasy games, LARP would do well for many of you. Mandatory reading of Tolkien, Lovecraft, Will Blake and Lewis too, pioneers of the brand, check Sakowski too if you enjoyed the Witcher series, very popular in Russia. Aside bestiaries and rulebooks you can check Beowulf, Nibelungenlied and Arthurian Legends too. Since you're into majick historical grimoires aswell, this is something I'd call real one, even tho many of it are pseudoepigrapha hoaxes (muh authorship King Solomon and Malach Raziel themselves, INFA 100%)

>>533

At first "loosh" it annoyed me a lot, but i got used to it as I saw it as part of the chan culture.

Don't bother yourself with terms.

Even outside of this chan or the context of magick, nitpicking on terms and word meanings is a waste of time.

>>534

>implying shitty redditchan menes count as chan culture

>>533

>>534

>>535

>tfw a word so perfectly designed that it fulfills its function just by existing

stay looshed lads

>>536

kek

>>533

>"Wizards", despite term being mainstream in general fantasy too for Lawful Good magic users (opposed to "Evil" Warlocks)

So what do you call all the other alignments magic users?

I need to know what to call myself!

>>540

Not OP but the pill color thread might give some insight. Other than that all I can see is magician organizations. Let's see...

>Lawful Good:

Group: Great order of Draco Slayers (GOODS)

Title: Draco slayer

>Neutral Good:

Group: Galatic Federation(from starseed's subculture)

Title: Light worker.

>Chaotic Good:

Group: Paratheo-Anametamystikhood Of Eris Esoteric (POEE)

Title: Discordian

>Lawful Neutral:

Group: Wicca covens

Title: Wich

>True Neutral:

Group: /fringe/ (all versions of it since freedomboards)

Title: "magician" or "mage" is the most neutral title I can think of, but since this is us we should think of a cooler title.

In fact a better title could actually makes us stronger

>Chaotic Neutral:

Group: Iluminates of Tanatheros (IOT)

Title: Chaos Magician.

>Lawful Evil:

Group: (all judeo-christian churches)

Title: Priest.

Group: Illuminati

Title: ???

>Neutral Evil:

Group: Freemasonry

Title: Freemason

>Chaotic Evil:

Group: Islamic State

Title: Son of Allah

(Not really magick users directly but their belief affect reality either way)

Some of those are little off but it's the best division ever made. Can someone PLEASE make an image for this division?

>>541

Actually IOT and wicca covens are reversed. Sorry.

>>541

not perfect but it works

>>543

>>544

It actually ended up a lot better than I expected.

I would love to hear if those groups would agree to our distribution (including here)

And That structure could be used for writing amazing books/comics/etc.

Thanks.

>>542

I made that post but ignore it.

Chaos magick is definitively not the same as chaotic in morality but IOT is indeed chaotic. They have a hierarchy but it' s very disorganized one. The role of the insubordinate is always messing things up.

As for the wiccans, their belief in the "threefold law" would brig then to "Good", but they always find a way around it.

They are "lawful" because they are (kinda) monotheistic and do not accept other system's rituals unless they are very devoid of entities, because they are very loyal to the "Goddess".

If anyone can make a suggestion, please do.

>>545

I'm guessing Neutral Good is the Pleadeans or whatever they're called, but I can't figure out what Lawful Neutral or True Neutral are.

>>546

see >>541

>>543

>ashtar command

>new-age alien deception

>lightworker

>neutral good

>good

http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/2013/08/23/why-i-am-no-longer-a-light-worker/

For real. Don't give people the wrong impression now.

Spiritual satanism should be neutral good. They actually do something about the ET/Reptillian/Zionism issues we face in todays world, instead of contributing to the malevolent psychic momentum like 'lightworkers' and anyone falling for stupid new-age crap do.

>>549

>>543

>>541

Also, ISIS/Muslim extremists are arguably just as bad as their masters and creators are; reptilians and the Zionists creating, supporting and maintaining them. They are the ones who are truly responsible. You know about the blood sacrifice and slaughter rituals Zionists and Judaism in general perform, I assume? The difference is that ISIS and Muslim extremists do it out in the open, and the reptilians and Zionists are more subtle about it. Everything to do with the Abrahamic religions are an extension of the legions of Yahweh, which is synonymous with everything malevolent reptilian, NWO and Zionism.

Its silly how the 'three' different evils you mention are in actuality just the same faction under different names. The way its currently put makes no sense, as the party of 'neutral evil' writes the laws for 'lawful evil' while 'chaotic evil' just reinforces the power of 'neutral evil'. They are all played by the same hand.

I propose the following changes:

Neutral Evil should be more along the lines of atheists or anything condemning 'the supernatural'. Even just most mundanes. They affect our global collective consciousness and The All that we operate from in a bad way.

Chaotic Evil should be the malevolent reptilians, nordics, pleiadians, greys and all the factions that work together to keep this prison planet intact, as the soul farm it currently is. These are the true evil that don't abide any laws. This is where the 'Ashtar Command' picture should be, alongside with a reptilian picture, a grey, and whatnot. (why did you even mention the G.O.O.D.S. as a lawful good while not mentioning who they fight against)

The current Lawful Evil is somewhat appropriate, even though it should just be the star of david. All in all, the Zionists are the closest thing to human that walk this earth that are aligned to the 'chaotic evil' faction, to the point where they are morally indistinguishable. And they all abide the rules and orders of the chaotic evil faction, therefor, lawfully evil. They are on this earth for no other purpose but the enslavement of all Goyim. They have admitted this openly, that they are on this planet for nothing more but this, instructed and doing this for their 'gods'. The difference lies in their very soul. [source; http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic13571.html] (includes transcript and original source)

>>550

>Neutral Evil should be more along the lines of atheists or anything condemning 'the supernatural'. Even just most mundanes. They affect our global collective consciousness and The All that we operate from in a bad way.

They aren't nearly as important as actual neutral magickal entities.

>Chaotic Evil should be the malevolent reptilians, nordics, pleiadians, greys and all the factions that work together to keep this prison planet intact, as the soul farm it currently is. These are the true evil that don't abide any laws. This is where the 'Ashtar Command' picture should be, alongside with a reptilian picture, a grey, and whatnot. (why did you even mention the G.O.O.D.S. as a lawful good while not mentioning who they fight against)

They don't exist. Or, for the sake of argument let's say they do, we know literally nothing about any sort of alien life. Not just that, currently there is no way to know anything about any alien forms of life, especially if they are how you describe.

So here's this.

>>551

>>552

Now whit captions for you pleasure education and amusment

>>550

I agree with that, here's my version of yours.

Above is good too, nice charts guys.

Reminder that even D&D gave up on the alignment chart and made it mostly placebo. Alignment is too hard to explain in a simple "good vs bad" grid. The foreign beings which keep Earth as a prison may be lawful under the laws they follow, but chaotic under our view.

>>554

I was under the impression that the group that was neutral good (aryans?) was not part of Earth and humanity's containment.

>>554

this is wrong in alot of ways

>>554

I love you. Good work!

>>551

>.. [atheists or anything condemning 'the supernatural']..

>They aren't nearly as important as actual neutral magickal entities.

Any entity exerts influence over the mass consciousness we are. Whether they are aware of it or not, in the sense of being a magick user doesn't matter. Besides you say 'actual neutral magickal' -- we were discussing neutral evil. Not actual neutral.

>They don't exist

You sound like any other mundane. "Magick don't real because I haven't experienced nor know anything about it". This says more about your personal progress and research then it does over anything else. Many, many people have experience with extraterrestrials, besides, you also portray a double standard here. The 'neutral good' in your image illustrates supposed members of the 'Ashtar Command' or whatever they name themselves, literally extraterrestrial. Why do you condone one but not the other? Besides that the 'lawful good' doesn't make any sense whatsoever if you don't account for extraterrestrials. What do you think they are fighting, really? Neither does lawful evil or chaotic evil make sense, since they praise Gods, extraterrestrials ones.

Read the book or PDF of 'chasing phantoms' or one of the thousands of abduction reports. They all note the same beings, doing the same practices. Just a massive coincidence, is it not? Besides, some of us have personal experience with extraterrestrials, me included. And yes, reptilian as well. From close by, fully conscious and awake.

>>555

>Alignment is too hard to explain in a simple "good vs bad"

Yes, in a subjective reality nothing is truly objective. However, such a chart from our point of view isn't all too bad. It gives a nice overview for newcomers and thus should be somewhat accurate.

>I was under the impression that the group that was neutral good (aryans?) was not part of Earth and humanity's containment.

The race from which we descend is not, however we as direct gentile descendants are. [assuming you're white and mostly European/Nordic/Caucasian]

>>556

The only thing wrong is your lackluster, meaningless contribution if I can even call it that. Explain what is wrong in your view of things so we can have a debate about this.

>>549

Can you give me a good source for spiritual Satanism please?

>>554

>>557

They do have an influence over the masses for increasing skepticism, but that's a step into right direction.

First you question mainstream realigions, then you find the truth about spirutuality

An example would be going christian->agnostic->atheist->agnostic->gnostic

They also create a political and culturak barrier for judeo-christians not to abuse their power so much. Itt's not working that well but it's better than nothing.

>>555

>Reminder that even D&D gave up on the alignment chart

I'm too lazy to use something like Briggs Myer's test or a bigger grid chart or a fluxogram.

>I was under the impression that the group that was neutral good(aryans?)

We have users from all races from all over the world(Brazil here) and all intentions.

They have many sorts of objectives with magick from getting a gf and building muscle to archiving godhood and fighting the demiurge and/or repitilians, regardless of race.

The vague nature of the internet puts us on true neutral.

>>557

>nice overview for newcomers

I think that it might be only irritating to them. I wouldn't try to enforce a worldview on them with some charts, might lead to confusion.

>>559

>First you question mainstream realigions, then you find the truth about spirutuality

That won't work in most cases because skepticism and "critical thinking" is now taught in schools in a very limited way that fits the matrix plan.

People around here are basically educated to critically review scientific papers and technological efficiency and that's it.

Some will learn to think on their own but most will remain robots because they don't have a reason to step out of line.

>>557

>"Magick don't real because I haven't experienced nor know anything about it"

I didn't say magick isn't real. I said that there is literally no proof that any of these alien races exist, and if they do it's incredibly unlikely they are how you say they are. Reptilians, for example. If they really are the super illuminati new world order kingpin god creatures that many claim them to be, doesn't it seem unlikely that a bunch of internet forum dwellers are the only ones to have noticed them? If they are as powerful as you claim them to be, how do we know anything about them at all? I am genuinely asking, any of the aliens you believe exist among us, how do you know anything about them?

>Many, many people have experience with extraterrestrials

Many, many people have experience with the christian god, the loch ness monster, vampires, the chupacabra, bigfoot, and celebrity ghosts. Eyewitness accounts and artist renditions are not proof.

>Why do you condone one but not the other?

The chart was based on what another guy said, not my personal opinion.

>Read the book or PDF of 'chasing phantoms' or one of the thousands of abduction reports.

In any of these thousands of 'reports' is there literally any proof anywhere? Like, any reliable evidence that they exist?

>They all note the same beings, doing the same practices. Just a massive coincidence, is it not?

Probably not. After the first films depicting little green men coming to earth from mars, reports of running into martians skyrocketed. The reason people keep reporting grays and repitilians is because there's already a community of people who believe in grays and reptilians and they know they'll be believed. If popular culture aliens were giant spiders and oompa loompas, we'd have reports of people getting abducted by those instead.

>Besides, some of us have personal experience with extraterrestrials, me included. And yes, reptilian as well. From close by, fully conscious and awake.

Yeah, I've had sleep paralysis too. Except in my case it was a goatman, because I'd read more stories about those.

>that picture

Oh so you're telling me that a completely different species from a completely different world with a completely different environment and completely different evolutionary path also happen to be bipedal humanoids with two eyes, nose, and a mouth in the same orientation as us. Not just that, they've grasped english well enough to communicate eloquently through it, but chose to use binary instead? If their binary code somehow translates to the english alphabet, why not do that? And if they were here for any real reason, why not explain some actual agenda or rhetoric instead of vague angsty middle-schooler sounding poetry?

It also makes me upset that part of that image goes out of it's way to shit on skepticism. Skepticism is why you're here, why you don't immediately follow the droning dogma of your local church. The fact that a bunch of people doing something this dumb is somehow less likely too you than a fucking alien species speaks volumes.

>>562

^ this is pretty much what I've always thought about aliens and conspiracy theories.

>>557

thx <3

>>562

I see where you're coming from. But imo the biggest proof of aliens is global politics. I haven't even researched channeling and abductions yet.

cursory non-disinformational research will show you that over humanity's history, there has been a subtle, indirect, unyielding force focused on undermining western civilization and spiritual happiness - and that this force is closely tied to zionism and judaism. If you haven't gone through the nationalist "redpill" phase like us /pol/ dudes, perhaps it is for the better, just watch a documentary like "nwo communism by the backdoor", it's fun to watch with the right mindset and explains a lot of what I'm saying. There is a clear enemy which is directly threatening humanity.

My experiences and knowledge:

>communist revolution in russia mostly led by jews

>us cultural marxist media owned by the same

>us culture shift since the 1960s directed by the same

>I see a book or artwork subtly undermining western society, coincidentally it is made by the same

>extreme correlation between judaism and modern liberalism in the city I live in. whenever I see someone aggressively pushing feminism, socialism, even materialism. it is the same.

so the "redpill" guys blame da joos, become dank nazis and be done with it. Apparently they think it is genetic.

How can a single human race have evolved, through natural selection, within it this subtle, perfectly-calculating, perfectly-subverting force? A force so well suited and adapted to modern technologic society? A force which has perfectly taken over almost all positions of power in our world? A force seemingly so bent on implanting an ideal of a Single Communist World Government into humanity?

There are two explanations: 1 - The Jews have secret underground meetings where they discuss this stuff and tell nobody. 2 - The Jews are being mind controlled by the Reptilians.

It's not human nature to implant hundreds of subversive subliminal messages into our television and media. No matter how selfish you think humans are, it's not human nature for a few rich dudes to enslave the 99% into becoming materialist, religious, sex-obsessed, brain-dead drones, through insane amounts of elaborately designed disinformation, subversion, and propaganda. They even hire people like David Icke and Alex Jones to make people like me look stupid.

I have met reptilians too, so I believe in them, but I understand spiritualism is subjective at its core. All I know is there is SOME external force acting on humanity. I don't know what it is, but it exists. This is what the GOODS are fighting.

>>565

>It's way too unlikely that this group of people can co-ordinate themselves this well

>It just has to be aliens

You know what I think it is? When you make some sort of large epiphany, a large amount of dopamine is released into the brain. It's biology's way of congratulating you for going out of your way to learn.

A lot of people, Alex Jones and David Icke included, begin chasing this feeling. The problem is that the only way they know how to get it is by making another worldview shattering discovery. That's why so many people try really hard to believe in their personal flavor of New World Order conspiracy, even with a huge lack of evidence. Their habit of reading far too much into things netted them a real discovery at one point or another, and from that point forward they can't accept that maybe the simplest answer is the correct one. Like now, "it can't be that the Jews are really well coordinated, they have to be mind controlled by reptile humanoids from space, and I know this because I totally met one".

This raises further questions that I feel what you consider proof doesn't stand up to:

>What could the reptiles possibly stand to gain from putting one arbitrary group of people in power?

>If there really is some mind-controlling super-entity in space, how is it possible that so much information about them has slipped through? In fact, how do you know that all this reptilian stuff isn't intentional disinformation?

>If they wanted the Jews to rule the Earth, why isn't Israel getting a bunch of advanced space technology and simply initiating hostile takeover?

>Why pick the Jews and not some other group that isn't being constantly conspired against?

>Why is it the only people that seem to have any information on these aliens are the least credible people possible? It's all anonymous imageboard users and fat housewives.

>Why were there no reports of interacting with aliens until movies with aliens first started coming out?

>For the numerous people who have apparently been abducted by aliens for a myriad of reasons from surgery to probing to simple interviews, why has there literally never been any actual proof of said alien interaction?

Look, maybe consider this. Maybe there is no NWO, no Jewish conspiracy, no Reptilian overlords. People like the idea of a scapegoat, just simply one group that all of their problems can be blamed on. The economy's failing, modern academia is fucked, race riots in the streets, adult children screaming for safe spaces, all of these problems have multiple causes with multiple people to blame. It's easy to say "let's lynch the Jews and root out the Reptilians and that will solve all our problems", especially since involving an alien entity allows you to really get angry at the most foreign and nebulous being possible. However, these are all very human problems with very human sources, and they need to be dealt with on a case by case basis.

So you've figured out that the problems facing the world are more complicated than "the Jews did it", please pick one of the following

>The world has over 7 Billion people on it now, and as such human interaction on a large scale is going to be complicated and very prone to error. There are numerous problems facing our society today, and I owe it to myself and those around me to address these issues carefully and thoroughly in order to solve them and make the world a better place.

>I am simply going to replace one boogeyman for another, and start talking about how the Reptilians are the real problem instead of the Jews.

>>559

Even though some practices are questionable, and some statements debatable, but as this is with anything, Joy of Satan is still the most comprehensive take and source on spiritual Satanism. (start here: http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Origins-of-Satanism.htm)

>They do have an influence over the masses for increasing skepticism, but that's a step into right direction.

Skepticism in general is good, however the stance the groups I mentioned take are not."We can not scientifically determine the validity of mainstream religions. Therefor, all forms of spirituality are invalidated." This is just substituting one belief system with another. Today in the mainstream, one is either atheist (and thereby most often condemning anything spiritual or supernatural) or a follower of a mainstream religion. A middle ground is hard to find and most who find themselves here are ridiculed even harsher then most practitioners of mainstream religion. When is the last time someone in public eye with credence took occultism and magic serious without perceiving it as evil. It is the other way now, where major scientific figures all only look at one angle of things. The objective, material angle. Complete disregard for metaphysics. Especially in most modern western societies. And this is the root of the issue. The reason why I deem this as evil is because it further exacerbates our already mutilated spirituality on a global scale.

>We have users from all races from all over the world(Brazil here) and all intentions.

I think the questioner had Aryans in mind when asking posing this question. Not all 'neutral good' practitioners of the occult, as you seem to have interpreted it as. I could be wrong, my bad if that's the case.

>>560

Its a double edged sword, but ultimately its for the better. If irritation leads to people disregarding information, its up to them, not us. All we aim to do is reflect our views. Neither would I classify it as enforcing, we're merely presenting another paradigm. What they do with the information presented is up to them, but hopefully they feel urged and motivated to research for more information.

>>562

>I said that there is literally no proof that any of these alien races exist

>In any of these thousands of 'reports' is there literally any proof anywhere? Like, any reliable evidence that they exist?

This completely depends on what you deem as valid proof. The thing with people like you is, what do you need as proof? What constitutes as absolute proof for you? An official stating that they exist? Visual or aural confirmation? Tangible, physical proof? What is it?

>doesn't it seem unlikely that a bunch of internet forum dwellers are the only ones to have noticed them?

Who says that we are the only ones to have discovered them? What a way to put yourself in a corner too. Internet forum dwellers is at best only a part of who most people here are. We could occupy many different positions in society simultaneously whilst being a regular visitor of internet forums. I don't see the point in the link you try to draw. Besides, why would it matter what or if others have noticed them as well. What's with this outside confirmation bias you seem to have? So only if others besides 'internet dwellers' have noticed ET involvement, it would be valid? Sounds like hivemind mentality if anything. Besides, its not something recent, because..

>After the first films depicting little green men coming to earth from mars, reports of running into martians skyrocketed.

And thus, all abduction reports are invalid? You're missing the bigger picture here, as abductions and mentions of extraterrestrials are NOT something recent. There are massive amounts of documentation of otherworldly beings in nearly all sources throughout the entirety of recorded history. Highly advanced craft and vehicles appearing and disappearing out of the blue. Humanoid creatures that had very apparent different physical appearances. And this dates back one of to the very first recorded languages, Sankrit. To one of the first civilizations, Sumerian. With 'kings' reigning for tens of thousands of years. These are just on the top of my mind, but you clearly sound like you haven't researched much on this yet. Besides, whats will all the government secrecy surrounding extraterrestrials? Have you ever researched the enormous amounts of cover-ups?

>Yeah, I've had sleep paralysis too. Except in my case it was a goatman, because I'd read more stories about those.

That's fine, but I was completely lucid and awake when I encountered a reptilian. No sleep paralysis. Don't assume that everyone else experiences the same as you.

>It also makes me upset that part of that image goes out of it's way to shit on skepticism

It doesn't 'shit' on skepticism. It makes fun of the supposed 'rational' answer society on a whole provides for these phenomenon. Its not as binary as "all forms of skepticism is bad" between the contrast of "I believe everything I read". There's always a balance and middle-ground someone has to find. I don't see why we would debate about this.

>Oh so you're telling me that a completely different species from a completely different world with a completely different environment and completely different evolutionary path also happen to be bipedal humanoids with two eyes, nose, and a mouth in the same orientation as us.

Who says that they grew up in a completely different environment? Who says that there is no possibility that species end up evolving into humanoid-like physicalities? If all you are here to do is to ridicule, then please take your 'skepticism' somewhere else.

>And if they were here for any real reason, why not explain some actual agenda or rhetoric instead of vague angsty middle-schooler sounding poetry?

How do you even envision this happening? Personal confrontations, abduction like experiences, the ones you ridicule as well? Or on global television? What do you even expect at this point? In my honest opinion, all that they should do is nudge the people that can make a difference in the right direction. Just plant a seed of thought that can ultimately flower to an evolution on a global scale. Now that's what I would do in their position. Because forcing change never promotes long-term stability.

>>565

I don't agree with your reasoning as to why extraterrestrial involvement is taking place. There's much more 'smoking gun' material, namely government cover-ups, ancient accounts and personal experiences These are very blatant and out in the open. However, I do agree with you in the very obvious counter-survival intake modern day society takes on itself. Its apparent that we're heading for certain doom the ways things are now. Anyone who is familiar with Zionism can see how and why, they can connect the dots. [Though you are right in that they are allied with malevolent extraterrestrials, don't get me wrong. Not just reptilians either.]

>>566

>You know what I think it is? When you make some sort of large epiphany, a large amount of dopamine is released into the brain.

That's a very materialistic way of looking at things without taking the metaphysical into account. What about the spiritual aspect of intuition?

Even though I agree with the "it has to be aliens because jooz aren't that coordinated" doesn't constitute as a good argument or point in favor of determining extraterrestrial involvement. We have extremely cunning and subversive (presumably) human beings on this planet as well.

>A lot of people, Alex Jones and David Icke included, begin chasing this feeling. The problem is that the only way they know how to get it is by making another worldview shattering discovery

This I don't agree with. These people do have points and 'evidence'. Whether or not you deem that as valid is up to you however. The subject of truth (and therefor proof) is highly debatable anyway, given the subjective nature of reality.

>People like the idea of a scapegoat

This is not the point at all. In order to improve the monstrous problems humanity faces, we have to determine the source. And there is clearly a parasitic, multiple even, factions working directly against our favors as a species. Most of what you name [economy, academia, race riots] are controlled and put forth by jews and zionists. How often have you even researched any of this? Financial troubles? The mostly jewish federal reserve. Race riots? Does the name George Soros ring a bell?

Your body would act the exact same, would there be a parasitic virus having an effect on all the cells on your body. It would try to eliminate the source, the parasite itself. Your body wouldn't turn on every cell.

Just, visit 8ch.net/pol/ for a couple of months and draw your own conclusions.

>>570

>Visual or aural confirmation? Tangible, physical proof? What is it?

Those are two very good examples. Anything convincing, it doesn't even have to be that convincing, just kind of. I feel I'm being more than reasonable when asking for at least a little confirmation behind what you're asking me to believe because at this point it's "this is totally true, trust me".

>So only if others besides 'internet dwellers' have noticed ET involvement, it would be valid?

You're anonymous. I have literally no facts on who you are. Eyewitness testimony is more valid based on the witness' character. When you have literally no evidence supporting what you're saying and do not have any credibility with me, I can't be expected just to trust what you're saying. Nobody that has ever tried to convince me of aliens existing has had any evidence nor credibility, including you.

>There are massive amounts of documentation of otherworldly beings in nearly all sources throughout the entirety of recorded history.

I've found that historical documents can lose some of their authenticity when translated from dead languages. Also, as stated previously, these ancient people have no credibility or evidence either. Just because an ancient people wrote about some shit that sounds vaguely like aliens does not mean we've interacted with aliens. Those highly advanced aircraft and humanoid creatures were found in paintings and shit. Artistic renditions are also not evidence.

>That's fine, but I was completely lucid and awake when I encountered a reptilian. No sleep paralysis. Don't assume that everyone else experiences the same as you.

I was lucid and awake too, that happens in sleep paralysis. Don't assume that your situation was completely unique to yourself.

>Who says that there is no possibility that species end up evolving into humanoid-like physicalities?

Dude, all it takes is one very minor genetic variation very early on to completely change the evolutionary path of the entire planet. If one of our single celled ancestors that evolved light sensing apparatus didn't reproduce as much as the one with sonar like capabilities, nothing on this fucking planet would have eyes right now. But a species far more advanced than our own from a completely different world just happens to look like ugly midgets? Our evolutionary paths, which involves millions of years of constant genetic variation, would have had to be almost exactly the same. That's like rolling a pair of dice hundreds of thousands of times and both dice ending up with the same number for nearly 100% of it.

>What do you even expect at this point?

I don't expect anything. However, if actual alien life were to arrive, I would hope for something better than a B-movie horror plot. Like, literally anything less vague and nebulous as the example provided, also not written in binary that translates to english for no apparent reason.

>>571

>That's a very materialistic way of looking at things without taking the metaphysical into account. What about the spiritual aspect of intuition?

I'm not a materialist, I just think that most of these people don't actually come to these conclusions for logical reasons because they're scared that reality is as shallow as it appears to them. It's like those people that claim 9/11 was this big elaborate conspiracy because they can't stand the idea that just 15 really determined guys could do that much damage.

>The subject of truth (and therefor proof) is highly debatable anyway, given the subjective nature of reality.

Yes and no. We have to have standards for what we consider concrete on various planes of thinking. While reality is subject to how it's percieved, a poloroid photo of your wife banging another dude wouldn't inspire philosophical debate on the holographic universe.

>Most of what you name are controlled and put forth by jews and zionists.

Yes, I know, but follow my logic here. We can't exterminate them, we can't quarantine them, what do we do? All of these problems are the result of shitty people gaining influence over vulnerable people. It doesn't matter how well you can prove that the Jews are responsible, because simply finding someone to blame for the problem doesn't solve the problem. Solving the problem solves the problem. If a problematic person is thoroughly convinced in their flawed thinking, explaining to them that it was this problematic group of people that taught them doesn't make them any less convinced or problematic.

I'm saying that it isn't enough to diagnose cancer, we need chemotherapy.

>>542

Why would Chaos Magicians be Lawful?

>>641

Check...

>>545

read far journeys OP

> anti-draconic

>>738

>Yearning for union with the "Monad"

>Not extending unconditional love to Le Demiurge

Fringe-guy is lame in this comic

>>533

I actually got into "magic" from watching Vampire Diaries. I never believed in it before, and I've been deep into fantasy series way before, I just treated is as entertainment.

But then I did train karate, judo, ninjutsu among other martial arts, and from there got into qi gong.

What happened was I realized the witches represented in VD did some things that actually made sense from a qi gong perspective, and that's how I made the connection. I've since tried sigils and summoning and got some really good results.

I don't think it's a problem to mix in concept from fantasy, who cares? I would never call myself a wizard or warlock tho, it's just fancy titles imo. Why do you even want to label yourself?

That said I don't believe a lot of people in this community actually had any results worth talking about, it's all just AP and rituals with no appearant practical use. Just doing some shit will work? I did qi gong for 5 years before I could effect things outside of my body. If you don't start by cleaning up your mind and body you're not going to get very far.

>>679

Does Far Journeys explain more about loosh than just where the term came?

I do not want your loosh. I am an idiot for posting here. Oh well.