I thought it might be good to meet up with like-minded people. Is it worth joining a fraternity, order or similar organization? Are there any other ways to meet people that I should consider?
Seeker 2016-09-30 02:59:10 No.8179
Any beneficial connection is good, but what matters is within you. Don't forget.
Seeker 2016-09-30 11:49:21 No.8188
They don't actually want to teach you anything useful because if you learned Truth you wouldn't be subservient to them, they need people under them to maintain power.
Had a thought about that. Wouldn't a viable strategy against NWO be to infiltrate, ascend, and completely dismantle/restructure these orders, or just plain betray all their precious secrets?
the amount of information about yourself you have to give away before you join, or while in the process of joining is ridiculous (imagine what happens to apostates in scientology)
not to imagine the outright brainwashing that they attempt during your initiation rites, don't fuck with that shit man, start harnessing your own spiritual energy
there pretty much is one already
Although most /pol/ browsers don't recognize Eris, I do, and I consider kek to be the ordered side of the sacred Chao and a logical aneristic balance to Eris' discord
Are there conflicts between the various esoteric orders similar to the conflicts there are between the various outlaw motorcycle clubs?
Seeker 2016-10-01 13:13:55 No.8224
>>8218
>doesn't understand how to collect the power of more than one individuals working together
Seeker 2016-10-01 18:32:40 No.8231
OK, I get the impression that fraternities aren't to be trusted. But is there no value to working with other seekers IRL? If there is some value, how should one go about making connections?
Seeker 2016-10-01 21:21:20 No.8239
Exoterics versus esoterics friend. Those who want to learn more will, those who want to shitpost shall.
M'kay, so fear of being too weak to either resist their influence or fear of direct retaliation. Pussy shit in layman's terms.
I recommend the Rosicrucian Order. Their stance, as they put on their website (red-pill people will freakout, i know it) is solely to spread esoteric type knowledge, they ain't to secretive with their texts as you can find them everywhere here.
They jew you for 15 per month. so there's that.
Rosicrucian dot org
Does anyone do less formal things like attending religious events/festivals?
Are you a member? Could you tell me a bit more about what they get up to?
I believe that WW2 might have been a conflict between Freemasonry and the Thule society.
Some people claim that The Order of the Solar Temple were killed for using the masonic trademarks without their permission.
They the masons do not like when people do that.
Seeker 2016-10-09 15:41:11 No.8547
Do people on /fringe/ ever meet up, and form any kind of real association with one another? Personally, I would be open to it. Especially lately. I've been reading Gurdjieff, and his emphasis on the role of "groups" and "schools" in spiritual struggle and transformation is really giving me this desire to form these kinds of associations; associations that are action based, that is, based on doing and achieving tangible things in "spiritual" life, not merely learning or spreading knowledge.
Anyway, I'll just leave my email here, if anyone wants to correspond on any related topic. I don't browse these boards very often, and so I prefer email. I'm mainly interested in the thought of traditionalists like Guenon or Evola, and lately Gurdjieff. I'm also generally interested in Western ("mundane") philosophy. Anyone interested in starting some kind of correspondence should feel free to email me:
juanbaptistefitzcarraldo@gmail.com
well, some of the ones i meet are hanging out near or around new age stores. Or somewhere near an open market. Anywhere that has "free" souls. (ironic when they are selling stuff at these markets.)
Sometimes it's near artsy parks and shit. To be honest, half of the time it's just a easy way to approch a hipster girl.
there's plenty of "new age" people where I live. Southern Cali is probably the new age capital of the world. "new agers" attach too much sentimentality to spiritual (don't even like that word tbh) activity. it's hard to reconcile that with my approach. i'm not talking about making "friends", i don't have issues with doing that, i'm talking about forming associations/relationships in a mutual struggle aimed at real attainment in "spiritual" matters.
Seeker 2016-10-12 19:07:22 No.8676
Ive gotten by so far by finding energy sensitive mundanes from my friend group and slowly raising them into a magic system of pure self empowerment. Its really brought up my power as well by confirming I can show someone a path out of the mundane thought realm.
Then theres the few equal level mages I know, and they usually don't even take magic seriously. I cant even stay on a phone call with one of them for 10 minutes because the call gets glitchy from our energy mingling.
Find wizards, enjoy shennanigans
>Meeting other Fringers
If there are any Ausfags who are lurking, Sometime last year I remember hearing of a meeting in Melbourne that went pretty successfully. I wasn't able to attend and regret it immensely.
Assuming anyone lives here, would you be willing to give it another shot sometime? I know you're out there. I want to meet you.
I've tried to turn local people over to the /fringe/ way before, bring up discussions about the paranormal/occult and offer them books, etc.
They seem to have an interest, but no passion in the subject, no drive for internal self-evolution. The only interest they have may stem from fictional series they like.
I offer people to help them develop their psychic ability and they decline. What could they find more fascinating?
I'm not a member of an order or fraternity.
>>Sometime last year I remember hearing of a meeting in Melbourne that went pretty successfully
Yeah, I was one of the people there. I recently returned to Melb and am trying to get in touch with the original organizer. K, If you see this, email me!
There are many groups of seekers in this city, many different types. I'm open to meeting people and love finding out what others are into though. I'd be up for Melb Meetup MK II!
I think, traditionally the advice to mages is - to keep silent.
If they want to know, they'll ask, and then you can open the floodgates. Otherwise, let them live their lives.
>I'd be up for Melb Meetup MK II!
We gotta make it happen then! I'd really like to get Khan in on this. He's here too. Maybe he'd be willing if we asked him nicely?
Seeker 2016-10-14 04:03:49 No.8781
i'm interested also but not from melbourne so it better be worth it
S 2016-10-14 13:42:17 No.8794
>We gotta make it happen then! I'd really like to get Khan in on this.
I will email him and see if he gets back.
So we've got three people?
Me, Roger the musclebound kangaroo and Mr Non-Melburnian?
I think this calls for a new thread all for Melb Meetup MK II
>tfw Adelaide and dirt poor
Adelaide hey?
I've hitched across from Melbourne to there a few times. It's only a day's trip.
If this meet goes ahead, I can help you get here. There are always ways.
>tfw Florida and I haven't met a single like-minded person in just about 14 years
This place must be cursed
The natural habitat of the white man is the cold forests and mountains anon, it is only there we can reach our true potential and it is there that our potential is multiplied one thousand fold. There is a reason the thirteen colonies were the original colonies of British white men.
Unfortunately I'm also preoccupied with uni so my feet are somewhat tied to this place.
Hate to make the same mistake as the guy who spent too long trying to get his earthly matters in order, only to find the master he wanted to study under dead, but that's just how it is.
Doubtful, only 3 people know my /fringe/ interests. None of them share them, two of them live in Adelaide and only one regularly uses imageboards.
Post my initials just in case.
Seeker 2016-10-16 19:36:32 No.8897
If you are actually trying to reach enlightenment chaos magic is a big fat meme.
All you'll accomplish is temporary satisfaction. The entire idea of chaos magic is accomplishing feats, while no feats are required to reach Truth.
Ayyy mang. North Central FL here. I never tell anybody about my interest in this sort of thing. The only people I've had approach me about any of it are hippies who just engage in hedonism with a pseudo-spiritual bent and ramble about whatever bullshit they thought while they were tripping balls. email me if you're anywhere near this part of FL and wanna do something sometime.
Seeker 2016-10-17 04:28:08 No.8921
South Florida for me. The only people ive come across were interested in astrology and tarot at best.
Seeker 2016-10-17 13:32:48 No.8943
It's a shame that even reincarnation is dealt like a fringe topic, not just by science.
It's not likely you just end up here "out of chance". If we take the fact that people nowadays know "internet friends" better than actual irl people plus being easier to find like-minded people in here than in actually real life. Like even talking - without bullshit - about reincarnation with someone in real life. Too few people (in my experience) would even belive it in the first place, much less talk about it.
Hhhh my recently past life according to a regression meditation was as a blonde German girl and there was misfortune in the form of a clown trial and murders.
This reincarnation has some German blood so it checks out.
Seeker 2016-10-17 14:42:41 No.8948
Isn't that the 101 of fringe? I would say that could be very reassuring about the spiritual path.
It may or maybe not useful for you to know and even be a trauma to experience some of it.
It's rather interesting to know things before hand even though you could not possably know it because you "never" even saw it.
Like the people that are natural gifts of music or art. They appear to know it better than the teacher. People could probably joke about "you were probably some musician in your previous life" and be actually right about that. Better if they are born in the "right" family and have the seeds planted before the veil is completly up their eyes.
I wonder why psycologists don't try to figure out people by asking how they were in childhood before having to face socialization AND the modern world. If karma is a thing it would be much more clear when you look at the child instead of the adult.
Even your likes or dislikes, like the homuculus in alchemy. It could be a better representation of your true self if such thing exists.
Seeker 2016-10-19 07:06:29 No.9068
> Get to a deep meditation
> Ask/get the intention that you want to go back in time, when you were 5 years old for instance, and then go even further.
Tbh it would be more simple to do it with another person since it would (for most I guess) to go to some type of dream-like state.
Maybe try the awaken mind, wake body tecnique to mantain the lucidity of the mind.
In "medical" terms your regular meditation should get you from beta state to alpha, yet you would have to go from alpha state to theta state (brain waves I mean).
Would avoid inducing that kind of state with external means. However I think It should be easier if you just shut down all your senses exept for the mental sense.
Maybe try the opposite, let your mind go to sleep but make sure your body is not confortable enough to let you sleep. Then try to gain some lucidity of mind.
Seeker 2016-10-19 07:32:03 No.9070
Since Mossa is doing that astral course, people might end up having that sessions here.
Would, however, advice that doing that may trigger some unwanted things. Since there's a probability of some of us knowing each other from previous lifes that could be a risk but also a reward.
The question (in my opinion) should be, are you ready to face your karma first hand and deal with directly?
Also if you meet someone from your previous life it would be easier to recollect that memories- even if just in the sub conscious way or in dreams. Yet both people would be opening the gates that were closed since.
Fantastic!
All we need to do now is organize a day for the meetup to take place and what we'll be doing.
So far, S, A non-Melbournian (we'll have to make it worth his time!) Khan (yay!) and I.
I'd make a thread, but worry a thread for only 4 people would be a little self indulgent.
I'd suggest sometime in November before it starts getting unreasonably hot here. Perhaps the 19th?
Activity planning is not my strong suit. But perhaps we meet up, head down to the botanical gardens, do some energy work and then hit up the art galleries? If you have better ideas we can roll with that.
Where did the last one take place?
Make that five people,I'm also I'm down for the 19th.
As for better ideas I would presume we'ed discuss theories and ideas, perhaps test out stuff if it's applicable.
I can do the 15th but I'll have to give a week of notice to work hopefully we can sort out the details a few weeks before then.
A cafe sounds like a good meeting point.
Also where exactly in Melbourne?
CBD or residential?
Oh I did not know the 15th was a week day. How about either the 12th or 13th since they're on the weekend? Anywhere from the 8th to 15th is best to catch the tide.
I'm not the best judge for where in the city. Can't say I'm there too much.
Seeker 2016-10-23 05:24:48 No.9236
I don't care to much because I work 6 days a week so I'm gonna lose a day but I don't care.
I don't go to city much ether since I live in the country.
What ever day seems best I just have to give notice.
12th or 13th is good.
Could I suggest this artists warehouse that I have a key to, which has a chill place downstairs with couch chairs and a kitchen facilities for tea and cookies? It is in East Brunswick.
I have set up a temporary email for people to get in touch anonymously. I will add whoever emails me to our email group.
zidwmacl@eelmail.com
Seeker 2016-10-23 06:25:20 No.9244
Thirding 12th or 13th. Suggesting we narrow down to the 13th for the spooky factor. (Sunday the 13th. oOOooOOoo~)
Brunswick is quite close to where I live, so don't mind the drive. Location sounds good. I'll email you soon.
12th or 13th good for me
i acquired a sword yesterday
there's a symbol on the scabbard and also some oriental writing that i think is chinese
maybe one of you know what the symbol means or the writing, i don't
in any event i propose we let the sword guide us
my intuition says we meet at coop's shot tower in melbourne central mall at noon
My logical facilities say no to Coop's shot tower. Cos of it being a fucking maelstrom of thousands of people coming and going, and we don't know what any of us looks like.
I'd prefer a quiet place, where people can't hide in the crowd and chicken out of meeting up. Also, that way the ASIS agents out there will be at a disadvantage.
Post a pic of your sword, so we can see it, if you please.
I agree, a cafe would be ideal. However, if people are financially strained, I'd suggest the arts warehouse I mentioned.
Otherwise, how about … "Loving Hut" ? I think there are two, one in Richmond and another in Northcote. I like Northcote better.
>"Loving Hut was created with a vision that all beings, human and animal alike, can coexist in peace, love and harmony with each other and the planet, offering an accessible starting point for all, no matter at what stage each may be on the noble transition to a plant-based diet."
Or there's Ray's Cafe off Sydney Rd in Brunswick. Which has a vegan menu that I like.
Suggestions?
Let's set it on the 13th then, keeping the 12th open, just in case somebody else has issues with the 13th.
I don't anticipate much more happening than a discussion and meeting of the minds. I'd imagine activities such as walks in the park, group goetic summoning or energy work would be left in the future, assuming we hit it off.
What a strange thing… aussies being the avangardé of this stuff. What's so different in ausland?
I envy you tbh, it feels like a desert in yuropoor.
Melbourne is basically Hipster douche capital of Australia. I hate to admit it, but these things tend to go hand in glove. That being said…
Ask and ye shall receive.
What you are seeking, is seeking you too.
If you build it, they will come.
Yada yada. So on, so such, and so forth.
Perhaps there are like minded people closer than you would think!
A swordsman joins us!
Loving hut sounds quite nice. I'll cast a vote for the one in Northcote as our meeting place.
>What a strange thing… aussies being the avangardé of this stuff
Kek, I know. I've always thought of Australia as being a cultural wasteland. Meanwhile I'm in England, birthplace of the Golden Dawn, Thelema, chaos magick, etc., and I can't see anything.
>Perhaps there are like minded people closer than you would think!
You're right, there probably are. Outside of hipster hubs like Melbourne (or London, or Paris) people tend to keep quiet about stuff like this.
Seeker 2016-10-23 13:00:11 No.9264
>> What you are seeking…
I wonder what I'am seeking. Like everyone else, I seek for a place where I can fit in and grow. Since all I see is westener materialism or the non-fedora atheists aka secular wishy good christians, I find it hard. If I find a new ager I call it a win.
I also avoid big cities because the energy there is so awful as their air pollution.
I don't know where this people tend to meet but would guess not in big cities.
> Implying they arent long gone
Even people that are somehow open-minded to this stuff and even those whom want some of that "fringe" stuff confirmed are in a denial about it. They want BUT they have some blockage. It's like they really want to know that there's not just "this" yet find it hard to admit it.
Glad to see this is actually happening, if it goes on well and you organize another meetup in the coming months I'll suck it up and pay the $300 plane fee.
Might as well take a look around the museums and gardens since I've spent a grand total of 3 hours in Melbourne last time I was there and I couldn't do much sight seeing.
Are the royal botanic gardens better than the Sydney ones?
I just checked train prices. A return ticket is $130 - (cheaper if you have any concessions obviously)
Hitchhiking is cheaper as well. I can give you tips on where to start.
That'll give you money you could spend on a hostel. ($30 - $50 a night, usually)
Venue : Loving Hut - Northcote
>See picture
Day : 13th November (Sunday)
>Correspondences : The Sun, Wishes, success, happiness, all-purpose, no secretive work on Sunday.
Hour : Noon. See below,
> [11:00] Hour of Saturn: For getting organized, plowing through tedious work
> [12:00] Hour of Jupiter: For success in just about any activity you can imagine and for beginning anything important.
> [14:00] Hour of Mars: Good for activities that require muscular exertion, boldness, courage
Identification : We bring a bright Blue/Violet/Purple object to put on the table. Those colours being Jupiter colours.
Any other suggestions? Thoughts?
Seeker 2016-10-26 02:34:11 No.9373
I'm not even close to being able to attend, but brining a bright colored object may not be exactly that easy for some people.
Then again, it can't be that hard to acquire such a colored object.
Admittedly I was going to go with "Hi! Are you here for the /fringe/ meetup?" but your idea is more exciting.
I have the perfect purple object to bring with me assuming they'll let me bring it into the restaurant…
Seeker 2016-10-26 08:41:56 No.9377
It's called "lovinghut", I'm sure they'll be fine if you come in swinging a purple dildo around.
WMB 2016-11-08 23:10:54 No.9844
That website was entertaining blogy for a Fraternity.
I'm definitely getting drunk later tonight and watching that video.
Ohhhh…. I don't know how to approach people without being a crazy person in Seattle. To be honest, what i said before was better than your attitude.
Go find these "new age" people talk to them, be causal and if the topic isn't skimming your 'spiritual matters' then move on. Slowly introduce your ideas to these people slowly over time, don't jump into the deep end all within the first day; gauge them..
As you go through people, some will/may speak out against you (It can be like high school), ignore them and keep seeking what you want. By the end you should have a bit of a following and you can all drink kool-aid you weirdo.
Just a quick reminder in case anyone has forgotten,
Melbourne Magic Meetup Mk.2
When: This Sunday the 13th, 12pm
Where: Loving Hut Northcote.
Misc: Bring a Purple item to identify yourself
I'm really, really excited to meet all of you!
S 2016-11-13 00:22:00 No.9916
Oh my glob, the loving hut isnt open til 4.30.
We can meet there anyway, then relocate. (A tram trip to fitzroy, easy)
Seeker 2016-11-13 06:31:35 No.9924
send me an email if you want to be part of a melbourne fringe group
famgrow26@gmail.com
Can't speak for the others, but I had a ball!
We met up, Hung out, Chatted about ideas and theories. Shared info and discussed experiences, experiments and how to get the best mileage out of your beam katana. (Swordsman bro, Sucks you couldn't make it. You would have loved that stuff)
It was great company and I really hope we get to do it again. MMM Mk.3 Can't come soon enough!
Damn it! you beat me to the beam katana joke.
Yeah, a real fine bunch.
It's great to catch up with others who've delved into this stuff and have some experiences to share.
Next time I'll make sure you feel the wrath of horse stance.
Goodluck on the other country anons for getting a meeting going.
Here's the PDF with the excellent modern guide to working with your body's energy. It explains how to actually move and be aware of your energy, rather than just 'visualizing' it.
I'm looking for the research on orgonite, I have to dig it out of my onenote notebooks, if that's where it is. Should be able to export it to a PDF then.
Ah! Robert Bruce. Yes, I've already read most of his stuff. Thank you though. My energy work (as far as I'm aware) is quite good for the most part. Just needed some to make some small tweaks. Might be worth a refresher.
>We defiantly have to do this again.
Absolutely. Khan suggested we give it some time so we each are able to do some practice/training on our own and have more to share.
To that end, How do you guys feel about holding another meetup in two months from now? Although I'm down to hang with anyone from Melbourne anytime on a less formal basis! Lemme know.
I feel we've earned our own thread now, So I've gone ahead and made a fringe meetup thread. Hopefully others will be able to get some use out of it and make something happen in their respective areas.
Seeker 2016-11-15 16:26:41 No.9979
Seeker 2016-11-21 22:35:20 No.10184
Considering all the information which is available on these orders and their symbolism no doubt there are/have been leaks.
