I don't know anything about the topic myself, but I wanted to make the thread bc people mentioned it in the chaos magick thread.
Seeker 2016-02-08 21:56:57 No.813
Thanks for creating this thread, I always save info that I'm interested in or may need in the future, so I'm going to share my collected info on this topic from /fringe/ here, I'm not however experienced in these practices, so insight from other people might prove to be valuable here
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Here I'll share all the info I have
"lucid dreaming, astral projection, the book of knowledge, chi gong, energy work, chakras, kundalini
just to throw some useful stuff, it boils down to willpower though, rest is just extra helpful"
"Get into a trance state during meditation, you're in that state, actively visualise your desired body. Really, really try to imagine what it's like to have that body. Eventually, your inner sense will conform to your imposed image and after enough practises, your etheric body will conform to the image."
"In order to get better results one must cultivate Chi/Prana/Vril. Even better with working chakras and Kundalini. You use all that force to reconfigure your whole body.
That's some real magic here. Keywords are Astral Projection and Lucid Dreaming, Kundalini Yoga, and Daoist Skills. Base your foundation on All is Mind."
"By changing the astral and etheric body bodies. Appliable via lucid dreaming/astral projection.
Master it, and obviously, learn to meditate. Lack of power will be the bootleneck which is why work on chakras/Kundalini and Chi/Prana/Vril accumulation will be important.
There are many books/authors you can start from.
Then there is also the whole thing about cleansing your physical body and making it healthy in order to reduce complications."
"You are constrained by what you believe to be possible at a subconscious level. Going into very deep trance states bypasses your conscious critical factor, which rejects or accepts suggestions based on your conscious beliefs (which are relatively mutable), but there's still a baseline of core subconscious beliefs that are extremely concrete that you will run up against before you're able to affect change at the level of making your eyes glow or throwing fireballs or whatever.
With enough deliberate deconstruction of your subconscious beliefs, you may be able to do some truly bizarre things, but it will probably take years of meditation."
"Shapeshifters become shapeshifters by merging with astral entities / thoughtforms they created, becoming "possessed" by them, while trying to maintain their own mind though (so body form changes but they hold onto their mind). If they are too weak though their mind becomes that of the animal / god / whatever to possess them.
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"Shapeshifters do not really have to imbue their alternate forms with much intelligence necessarily they just evoke these different forms then merge with them in that way IIH describes.
Were-creatures are I guess limited to one shape but whose to say this book I've been reading isn't delusional.
The real limit is the imagination.
…but yeah…
>make form
>merge with it
>das how you shapeshift basically, though there's a couple extra steps to cause the physical change of the body and just change your astral body
In a way healing and any other changes to body is just merging with the healthy version of you."
"You guys look pretty confused with what this thread is actually about.
I am not trying to be an asshole, I just want to break the chain of dis-info here.
If you want to make body modifications in your own body, is not that hard(and semantically is not shapeshifting, shapeshifters are basically humans who transform into animals, ON A PERIOD OF TIME, USING A EVOCATION OF A SPECIFIC ENTITY, OR A SHAMANIC TECHNIC ON THE ASTRAL PLANE) What you guys want, is to make PERMANENT changes on your own bodies. That's okay, you guys shouldn't be ashamed about that, to truly and help you guys, I recommend this following options:
-Evoke an intelligence(can be a goetic, an angel a planet. you decide), ask them for guidance on this process. Because is not that easy.
-Create a thoughtform to do the work for you. It's common that chaoists create thoughtform to real the body. so, following the logic that is the same sphere of action(your body) you just need to get the work done. This is dangerous if you are not experienced enough.
-Enochian magick. Enochian magick is really hard but is extremely effective (sometimes scares me). The watchtowers of the universe, are (in the john dee's dogma "vision" and interpretation) a representation of the matrix of the universe, so, even the skies are not the limit.
I just offered some options, but you guys can go beyond what I said. Magick is about being a god, not a minion (FUCK DEMIURGE!) Share the progress and the results on my thread(https://8ch.net/fringe/res/59054.html), I eager to see the results.
Just wish the best to you guys! Good luck!"
"Yes it's possible. Took me forever to understand why exactly it is possible in the most simplest of terms but then I figured out a way, at last, to explain it.
Matter is objectified thought.
Literally all you have to do in order to change the body is imagine very intensely that it has changed until what you imagined becomes objective reality.
Just start imagining a new form for yourself, then wear it, such that you can't see yourself any other way then the form you've assumed.
The result will be that your body changes to that new form.
Before you do that though I recommend you imagine a lot of heat condensing in your hands or being hit by a metal baton somewhere until you get an actual bruise show up on your physical body.
That's really all there is to it. Imagination. If you don't want to directly imagine something then use gnosis technique, summon up a shitload of emotion and intend it powers a certain change, until you have this gut-instinct feeling of total conviction (even if you deny it verbally) that what you have done has come to pass. The details will get sorted out by the demiurge / world soul which is perfectly capable of acting on your desires, be they strong enough."
"What do you do if you want to get taller?
Simplest thing would be make a thoughtform whose purpose is to make you taller and keep investing loosh energy into it for so long as it keeps working at its task, get an idea of how long it should take, and if the thoughtform fail deprive it of loosh and make a new one to replace it. Principle of Continuity ensures that it, like everything else in the universe, will want to survive indefinitely.
Other method, a little more abstract, is work up a ton of emotion and enter a gnostic trance state where you feel convinced like it's a gut feeling / instinctively / intuitively know you have seeded the cause into the akasha and you will get taller. Then maintain attitude of extreme gratitude like it's already been done and you're good to go.
Remember you have multiple energy centres in the body, the sexual groin sort of area when you focus on it and listen gives you an idea of the vital / whether you have the will/etheric energy/drive to get something done. The gut tells you if you are lying to yourself, it's the part that feels when you give a suggestion "it's not working!" until at last you convince it. The heart is your emotional centre, from there you get your passions and everything from hate to love and all other emotions emanate there. Then there is the seat of the intellect and psychic abilities in the head area.
As for lungs and neck, I have to channel more information from the astral to find out about this, before I'm willing to say for sure what that part is about…
It will work but for something as simple as adding on a little height it's overkill, I'd do it instead for a nurse thoughtform that is charged with healing absolutely every problem in your body and protecting you from sickness, make it fix your eyesight, increase sense of smell, heal up soreness, and fix any and all issues you have.
Also with that method of the gnostic trance you can "fix and forget it" in order not to undermine it with doubts and stuff later or you can intentionally revisit it and charge the manifestation again multiple times to intensify the whole thing."
"Oh one more method actually worth pursuing that's not too complex would be for you to imbue your food and water with intention + emotion that it's going to increase your height.
You could also try doing a similar thing with air you breath in, preferably while doing rhythmic breathing from Science of Breath.
I think these two methods would be indirect though and probably slower way for you to achieve your goal compared to the other two."
"I will later, not right now, for now just work up lots of emotion and focus it with intent and get that feeling of conviction it is done, the cause has been seeded, you will see the results. You know that Jesus stuff about feeling like something is already manifested and expressing gratitude? Same shit except I know how to do much more with it and combine it with ritual work, sigils, and all sorts of other things."
Here is probably the last thing I'll share, there's this book called the morphosephram which I do not recommend to beginners as it's really dangerous.
One experience I had relating to this was, I merged with my higher self during meditation and asked him what book will help me change my appearance, and he specifically instructed "Morphosephram"
So that's pretty much it, as I said, it would be interesting to hear opinions on this matter
Here's a download of the book you mentioned but I haven't read it myself (just starting the first pages)
It appears that many people are pointing to astral projection as a means to achieve the impossible
>tfw still can't AP
Fml
Seeker 2016-02-09 06:49:24 No.830
Here's a download of the book you mentioned but I haven't read it myself (just starting the first pages)
well shit, the craziest thing happened, after I wrote that post and went to sleep I instantly astral projected, what the fuck
I found myself sitting in my chair and getting slowly drawn back into my sleeping body, I didn't realize what was happening as it was so unexpected and I just went with the flow and came back into my body
It's such an uncanny coincidence that it happened after I wrote that post, this all seems so crazy to me now
Why don't we just reclaim the word, 'coincidence'?
'Synchronicity', besides sounding ridiculous, means the exact same thing, just the first word is taken by mundanes to mean it's meaningless. Fuck mundanes, let's speak clearly without regard to them.
Seeker 2016-02-10 02:35:58 No.849
You can attempt to do that, I personally find it's easier to side step the issue because so many people are so grossly misuniformed about it. It's easier to present it as something new entirely than to explain to them they are wrong, even if from a higher perspective it's the same thing.
It a magician's company it matters not, in a mundane's company, I would prefer to speak to them as it most efficently worked for their benefit.
some preliminary exercises from bearheart
http://palomayombepnw.blogspot.com/2016/01/lycanthropic-mysteries-of-goetic-daemon.html
Seeker 2016-02-13 12:17:34 No.919
Edgy STS demonology and reliance on entities for power is now how I envisioned my ascent.
Seeker 2016-02-17 15:40:06 No.1008
All is mind
You all have all the power you could ever need to change yourselves
When you go to sleep today, don't sleep and meditate for 6 hours instead, do this every day from now on, this requires strong will, but I know all of you have it no matter how weak your physical bodies are, try all of these methods in this thread during meditation, what I also suggest is to use affirmations for stuff like "I'm thankful for my third eye being open" "I'm thankful I can astral project" and stuff like that, do this starting today, the more time you waste the more you'll regret it
NEVER lose hope
Good luck
That book curses you right of the beggining with karma if you tell anything about the book.( My guess is that was made to prevent dessacration. )
I took some time to comment about it because i was reading it and removing the curse.
The theory behind the book is useful for many purposes, but the entities shown are are… I just don't recommend you you deal with any of them.
How do you remove a curse? Also, does karma even exist? And if it does, what's the correct definition behind it? I've seen hundreds of different definitions
Seeker 2016-02-19 09:01:38 No.1070
This is actually pretty solid advice. I know from experience, and I think most people here do, that abstaining from masturbation increases your masculinity ten fold.
Seeker 2016-02-19 20:31:27 No.1083
I'm not sure, as I am not one, but if there is an answer to be found I'm sure it is within:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/y282zogxw071clc/Chia%2C_Mantak_-_Cultivating_Female_Sexual_Energy.pdf
Seeker 2016-02-19 23:49:28 No.1091
>How do you remove a curse?
If you know exactly what was used, redo it backwards, In this case it would work to read the text backawards and draining energy from the sigil.
If you don't don't know what the curse was, clean up your energies and banish everything arround you.
>Also, does karma even exist?
Depends on the definition.
>what's the correct definition behind it?
I could just give a definition but that would just add to your list of definitions. Most definitions have a good merit. Let's go trought them:
"mundane karma" is a a criminal getting caugth by the police, and being sent to jail. Nothing supernatural about it.
Classic karma is an all-knowing entity observing us manipulate our destiny to make us suffer an equal balance.
Wiccan karma (threefold law) is being punished with 3 times the suffering you have caused.
Buddhist karma is like having a personal hell for the bad toughts you have with the bad emotions related with them.
All of them(except wiccan and maybe classic) have good points and are all valid (in my opinion)
classic tip for charging all of your thoughtforms
"You can create an astral body of such an Entity in the following manner. You can do it while seated, but it is more effective to do it in a lying position. Concentrate on your starting idea –or decision, which constitutes the backbone of your Entity. While you are concentrated in this way, contract all the muscles in your body powerfully, without moving any part of your body. Then imagine the Entity in the shape of a small thick cloud or of a ball of condensed fog above you. Gradually loosen the muscle tension and simultaneously visualize that neuromuscular energy flowing out of your body and into the Entity. Do this for about ten seconds, until you become completely relaxed.
This pumps vital force out of you and into your entity. I suggest not being sick or fatigued beforehand when you do this. It is best to have an excess of energy before you start. I don't visualize it as a thick cloud or condensed fog, I visualize it as a pulsating light ball, that is mostly white light but also throws off some random vibrant colours from it and which spins around and pulses rapidly. I find this starting form is really powerful for creating an astral body for yourself to AP with as well as creating entities or creating a disruption in the ether to attract and evoke entities too. The movement in the form also gives it a lot of vitality over a static image.
It is creation of tulkus and tulpas. By means of sharpened visualization it is possible to create a thought form in human shape, which is called tulpa. If reflective concentration is intense enough during a long period, and if it is supported by strong will, often by energy invested by a lot of people, such a form ceases to be a phantasm and incarnates as a normal human being, receives a palpable physical body and an appropriate personality. In that case, it is called tulku or the “phantom body”. "
also relevant - formula of attainment:
“Earnest Desire—Confident Expectation—and Firm Demand—these form the Triple Key of Occult Attainment.”
The Master Formula of Attainment is as follows: “(1) Definite Ideals; (2) Insistent Desire; (3) Confident Expectation; (4) Persistent Determination (5) Balanced Compensation.” Reduced to popular terms, it is as follows: “You may have anything you want, provided that you (1) know exactly what you want, (2) want it hard enough, (3) confidently expect to obtain it, (4) persistently determine to obtain it, and (5) are willing to pay the price of its attainment.”
Seeker 2016-03-05 23:06:23 No.1404
I think finding a way to do it myself would be more beneficial cause it'd give me control over the process, and even if it takes more work, I like that the experience and knowledge gained from that process would also be useful in other works. Nothing wrong with thoughtforms, but I feel better knowing all the work I've done on myself was by myself if that makes sense
>without any thoughtforms
That is literally impossible. Simply moving the muscles in your body requires thoughtforms.
Thoughtforms are desires combined with energy and will. (Might be a bit wrong on that part) But in EVERYTHING you do it is done through thoughtforms. Entities? Those are thoughtforms of the All or a lesser being. Tulpas? Thoughtforms as well.
Ah ok, I'm sorry, I made a mistake, I meant without creating or evoking any entities. I'm still learning ways to channel energy and will and struggling a bit, so I thought doing it without using any other entities like tulpas or demons would be more beneficial with knowledge
When it comes to changing the physical body are there any limitations for example you can grow taller but not shorter or are there perhaps no limitations for example if one make there brain smaller the data is just stored elsewhere?
Also what's the general time span for extreme changes?
On the subject of using the help of entities, I highly suggest NOT evoking STS entities to help you in magic. I, and hopefully other wizards, usually do magic through my own power. Learning, growing, and advancing in all stages of magic are a part of ascension. There is no cheat code or something that will get you there quicker besides working on it more. STO entities understand this and will not provide help where you can help yourself. (Depends on the situation and the entity) But, in general, STO entities follow the idea of:
"Give a man a fish and he is fed for a day. Teach a man how to fish and he is fed for a lifetime."
By learning to do magic yourself, you can do all things instead of relying upon an entity to do it for you.
Upon the subject of Tulpas, those entities are powerful thoughtforms with the Ego (personality). Creating a tulpa and using it wisely is a good step towards becoming a Magus.
Upon the subject of apologizing, do NOT. Simply accept the truth of where you messed up and continue upon the path. If you truly desire to say sorry, say instead "I have learned" or a similar phrase. This does not put you below the person, but states a fact of your growth.
Remember, everyone grows, and there is no perfection. For perfection is stagnation.
There are no rigid limitations, but trying to make yourself the size of a skyscraper is not a very good idea. But, otherwise, there are no limitations. You can grow taller, shorter, gold hair, silver hair, black eyes, red eyes, ect. About changing the size of your brain, I'm not sure directly influencing that part of your body will bring good results. Your brain is basically the antenna that you use to connect with your body, damaging it will lead to poor circumstances.
As for a 'time span', it really matters upon the change, the desire for it, the amount of energy going into it, along with many other internal or external forces.
Seeker 2016-03-06 15:18:20 No.1415
How long do you estimate it would take to see results from thoughtforms? I know it depends on how much you charge them, but say I do this method
a 100 times a day, would that be enough to start seeing it fast? also would my inability to see and feel thoughtforms impact it in a negative way or not?
Seeker 2016-03-09 15:29:01 No.1492
>Upon the subject of apologizing, do NOT
never? I can see not doing it overmuch but I'd figure sometimes is np. Like w/sincere regret or something when one hurts another.
I am atm
This kind of information in this thread gets me very positive, even overly positive, the fact that there is a way for me to become stronger beyond the boundaries of my genes, I try not to get that positive so my will wouldn't be crushed once I figure out it doesn't work, I've only recently started the basic thoughtform method of changing yourself and I'd really like to admit that I see the effects already, but I'm not 100% sure yet
> the boundaries of my genes
they are much wider than you'd think, and you can add energy to widen them as well.
I've been turning my hair gold/blonde, pretty instant results but I've already done kundalini rising so that's to be expected
simple affirmation, picturing my hair gold, being thankful for it. shorter hairs started turning blonde with not too significant effort, haven't put in a lot of time.
and you think that having a raised kundalini helped you do it? These are all very basic techniques you used, though i'm curious as to how much time you spent on it
>and you think that having a raised kundalini helped you do it?
yes, since I have more energy to use, and [directed] energy is everything
>These are all very basic techniques you used,
yup
>though i'm curious as to how much time you spent on it
less than an hour total.
It's not much effect so far, like <20 hairs, but the results were pretty quick. I'll check in again with results when I've done it for longer. I'm also doing qigong for kidney health which is supposed to darken hair so that might counteract it a bit
Seeker 2016-03-17 06:33:00 No.1663
Making thoughtforms seems to be much more effective to change yourself, since they would be doing the task the whole day
Seeker 2016-03-29 05:30:19 No.2004
While meditating I visualize a clear body, that I can make changes to and it will save the details, I gather energy (its golden in color) and then funnel it into this body template. I then merge it with my physical self and see the changes that I want. When I feel that I'm done for the moment or my concentration is starting to wane I shrink the template down and shut it away in a little pocket for next time. How effective is this? Is it purely a matter of whatever I find comes natural to visualize or are there certain things that are more effective?
The notion of being limited by the physical is a mundane notion.
Also, your genes are dictated by your soul, which as you alter and consciously cultivate yourself, your very DNA changes in response. Indeed this even happens on a subconscious level for mundanes, but usually through far slower and collective means.
This is where the concept of lineages of magic users come from. As you develop and grow your abilities they are imprinted upon your very being and by selective mating you can pass the predisposition to what ever abilities you (and your ancestors) developed.
>your genes are dictated by your soul
only if you believe they are ;)
>selective mating
course, if the population's small enough…you get inbreeding….
OK now, I've been thinking about this metamorphosis thing.
What would be the best way to direct an appearance change? Just thinking of the result, or actually considering the molecular transformations that would have to take place?
For example, lets say I want to become a redhead. Should I just visualize the result or thinking of the melanin shifts in my hair follicles?
Should I just visualize my legs being longer or the cellular proliferation in the metaphysis of the femur taking place?
In the most general sense, you set the goal and the details are taken care of for you.
But anything that allows you to feel it should be helpful, just don't get bogged down.
Seeker 2016-05-03 13:45:57 No.2574
and if you believe they are not then you make your soul dictate that x other cause is it.
same thing.
Any good reading for people who don't necessarily want to alter thier bodies, but change other's perceptions?
Seeker 2016-06-05 21:57:47 No.3136
You should seek to alter yourself instead. As within, so without.
If you see your body in a different light, others will see it in that way too. Your desire to change others perceptions means you still desire change. Become that change, instead of pushing it onto others.
>Get into a trance state during meditation
Is there a specific kind of meditation that you would recommend for this purpose?
Seeker 2016-06-08 20:16:00 No.3285
I wonder why there is no pdf of a 20 years old book on Shamanism.
Someone should buy it and scan at least the relevant secxtions.
Learn to relax. Bodyscan, autogenic training, whatever.
Then learn to simply watch your thoughts, and whatever pops in to your mind. (Sounds, bodily sensation, etc.). After a bit of practice you're mind will naturally settle, and become still.
Have achieved a reasonable amount of deep relaxation, and mental stillness, you can begin working on whatever you want.
In my opinion this is pretty much the foundation for most 'occult' shenanigans.
>deep mind meditation
Gotta be more specific than that bro.
Assuming you just mean deeper, more 'profound' states of mind then sure. They can be pretty important. Dhyana/Jhana, Samadhi, all that jazz.
But that kind of mental refinement isn't necessarily needed for occult operations.
Technically, yes.
There are simply multitudes of ways of applying one's will to it and abstracting (or not) one's desire into it.
What's the best starting point for energy work that isn't connected to any religious system (single-standing I guess?)
PDF attached is the most often recommended starting point for energy work. It's completely feeling based, no foreign mantras of mudras, no complex obscure visualization techniques, no hard to grasp or obfuscated eastern terminology and theoretical philosophical jumbo.
The techniques are guaranteed to pretty much work with everyone. I personally also use it.
Seeker 2016-06-17 21:14:22 No.3565
I have a well built muscular body which I have obtained after years of resistance training.
However I never trained my calves and they are also naturally skinny. My lower thighs are also skinny and weak.
When I move my awareness to my legs I can feel them like they are weak and they need to grow, if I keep the awareness there for long enought they may even move spasticaly on their own.
So from tomorrow I will start meditating just on the feeling of my legs becoming strong and growing bigger, I will start with 30 minutes and I may increase the time.
I will post results here.
No. The only way they catch people with that is that they watch torrents and mass send out notices to scare people. You won't get in trouble by downloading pdf's here or on mega.
It's worth caring about. He should try to secure and anonymize his system as much as possible. Look to be a professional in all fields, even the mundane.
Alpam 2016-06-20 18:58:46 No.3638
The name of the URL, and thus the file you download is obfuscated. Even in the impossible chance that they are monitoring you as specific individual, the file '466182699690.pdf ' is not going to ring any bells. Also download it over HTTPS. If you're especially scared, you can just download it via the Tor network and browser.
No need to be sorry, my friend. Its a good question, but you really don't have much to worry about.
Sorry, no. Not familiar with Tibetan stuff and it never really attracted me either.
i have a small lock of hair from someone with an amazing head of hair, is there any sort of ritual i can do with it for my body to adapt my hair to be like theirs?
Seeker 2016-07-10 08:55:53 No.4237
I've got no experience in shape shifting, but if you have a lock of someone's hair, you know what their hair looks and feels like. From there, you should be able to use regular visualization tactics to replicate it with more accuracy.
Khan 2016-10-24 06:28:50 No.9297
There's definitely enough good info here but I'll give some extra perspective.
Every human is in the same essential body, configured to different levels like customization sliders or a colour palate.
Different cultures live in different levels of humidity, light, different foods, ways of life, physical activity, etc. This creates physical change over long periods of time. The entire body is a cable system. We represent these cables (think finger tendons running to feet and through head) by elements. They're maintained and mastered(related/controlled) through the organs. These express externally through your face. The face is the body (torso, waist, discluding limbs) and the limbs are your body. The body is the naval. Observe people to see what kind of states they're in (what organs/elements are strong, abused, prominent, etc), what side they angle to.
Another idea is to understand the geometry of males and females. The only "real" difference(of bodies in general) is this geometrical positioning(visualize a square gate or octogate).
What does this mean? Changing the entire body is an act of changing these variables(geometry if you like to think physically). At least this is a denser or more external explanation on how it all works. First you need to satisfy your ego.
Next ask yourself. How can you realistically "break" and manipulate reality to deeper levels. Hopefully you thought the imagination. It's so simple as to be taken for granted. This goes for much more than just shapeshifting.
If we remember the cyclical, sine wave nature of reality we can figure out how this may work. Constant enforcing of this form. Create your body map and overlay it at every chance you get. Anyone who practices astral projection will know this kind of stuff(and may have noticed subtle changes).
High tide is impressing, low tide is allowing and yielding.
This all takes a sturdy posture to support use of the imagination. Strong internal breath as to keep your consciousness flowing and a highly developed creative visualization.
I'd suggest first learning how to visualize properly in 2d,3d, creating geometry, learning anatomy, and how to work with all of these.
Last thing is to know that this is a long process which never ends.(daily/nightly). Even the ability to gain minor progress will truly make a magician out of you.
Seeker 2016-10-30 19:09:18 No.9557
The other day I stopped my hurt finger by submission. Not the finger, but the pain. I would not let this faggot pain have a hold on me.
I was kinda mad that day and full of taking shit, so when that little bitch started pulsing in pain I directed all my intention and spectation into it and voila…The fucker stoped hurting. I guess that was my first conscious act of magic, and now I am here. Kinda reminds this scene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkYTYNOUYU4
>to raise the kundali you must not eat meat
Well, though luck. Back to being a normal. And just when I would get myself magically blind by trying to make my eyes red…
Seeker 2016-12-16 07:34:47 No.11223
bumping thread for visibility. Can any other anons offer some tips?
Seeker 2016-12-16 17:35:27 No.11232
Many legends about shape shifting mention the requirement of meeting the devil. From Germany and the magic wolf belt, to native Americans and eating a family member to become a skin walker.
But who is the devil?
So you guys know, they call it biokinesis and brazilian normalfags are doing this to change eye color at a greater extent than ponyfags make pony tulpas to fuck. It's unbelievable.
Seeker 2016-12-20 04:56:17 No.11400
i don't speak huehue so i can't really look up what they're posting about it, but how is it for them? do the brazilian mundanes/normies have any success with it? do they use it for other things than eyes too or is that the main thing to change? pretty curious
What the fuck is up with brazil becoming woke as fuck lately? First I find out Kaballa is rampant over there but now normies are using magic? Wtf mang
Seeker 2016-12-20 23:26:52 No.11417
It's not disinfo if it's working, it means it's another method they can prove magick through. It's the opposite of what the CIA would want.
We need a source for the brazil claim before making any assumptions.