I was swimming in youtube's muddy waters. and saw picrelated. video that says 'Become a living God'.
and an inverted pentagram. Why would anyone put an inverted pentagram? or this is how obvious counter-initiation is these days. they just don't hide it.
Or is there some 2deep666me meaning behind the symbolism. Explain. Inverted means heads-into-matter.
We could also discuss what does the star mean. and differences in meaning.
Don't call me goyim, you fool. I'm an Aryan Israelite.
I demand on behalf of my electedness you open your dirty cards. How do black-brotherly tricks work?
Obviously, it was the same dealing in 19-20 century with all that 'spiritual revival'. Lets find out how mechanisms of counter-initiation work. So Alice Bailey and Crowley, intuition tells me, that were somehow different from Blavatsky and Steiner.
>Star Symbolism
Lets say world _star_ hip-hop. oh shit yo! why the star be red? just like the red star over the communist infested kremlin in Russia.
sheiit.. what might it be blue star.. Sirius connection?
>Or is there some 2deep666me meaning behind the symbolism. Explain. Inverted means heads-into-matter.
I remember reading on Joy of Satan about this, back when I was studying up on various Satanic systems. Basically they said that the point up pentagram symbolizes energy going from man to some "God above" or stuff like that (what the Christians and co. are doing with YHVH) and the point down symbolizes the empowerment of man.
I found a somewhat shorter version of this on http://dawn666blacksun.angelfire.com/Satanic_Symbols.htm
>The Point Down Pentagram symbolizes energy entering our crown chakra from above. […] All point down symbols in Satanism represent energy from above descending and giving life to, and empowering the human soul.
I can't find the one which I've read before. Maybe our friend Alpam can shed some light on this? I've never quite got into the symbolism of pentagram apart from the quote above.
This.
Become a Living Meme™
>it was the same dealing in 19-20 century with all that 'spiritual revival'
Could you elaborate?
>Could you elaborate?
There was a massive revival in occultism. )))They((( made it go public. 1888's book Secret Doctrine, Golden Dawn, Thule etc. etc. It was obviously planned.
However, it is interesting what were the differences between these occult threads.
Yeah, I know that, I meant what about counter-initiation… oh I get it now, I thought you meant like counter-initiation as in keeping people dumb and bereft of occult knowledge.
Hm, that is possibly the base-line counter-initiation. But there is also a plot to lead seekers astray to fuck them up bad.
To initiate them into cuckoldry. and I'm interested in principle by which DARK-but-not-"light-out-of-darkness"-principle-but-faggot-like-SIDE operates. "What's your plan, Batma-an?"
perhaps, (just a thought) what we are doing right now is an example counter-initiation. Instead of studying, doing excercises, we talk. - Might be. MIght be not.
>To initiate them into cuckoldry
>principle by which DARK-but-not-"light-out-of-darkness"-principle-but-faggot-like-SIDE operates
Could you elaborate harder?
>Aryan
>Israelite
The actual Israelites have been extinct since Solomon's Temple was destroyed.
Solomon was a student to Hermes himself 6000 years ago.
Unless you're 3000 years old you are certifiably not an Israelite, you're a filthy dirty rat jew bastard kike.
The pentagram is an ancient symbol invoking the transmutation of the four elements into spirit aka akasha/ether/void/et. all. As the line of the pentagram is followed the elements are combined and transmuted into spirit.
The inverted pentagram represents the debasement of spirit into the elements and the debasing of spirit.
Some people mistakenly believe that by debasing spirit into the elements they gain greater material power, they ignore the solemn principle of "As above so below".
>Solomon was a student to Hermes himself 6000 years ago.
Hm, not sure about the ol' Sol om on. He quarreled with Adoniram/Hiram who is considered to be a reincarnation of Hermes. What was the reason? Maybe it was over the Queen of Sheba?
I had this sinchronity. Went to a supermarked and then my gaze cought cat-food named Sheba with a black cat painted over. My chain of association - "black cat"="night"=Queen of the Night=Sheba=Ishtar.
Also, Moon is the signature of Hermes. So, Sol/Solomon and Moon/Hermes, ya dig? Easter spring festival = rebirth of the sun.
>The actual Israelites have been extinct
Check about 10 lost tribes of Israel. Who do you think Europeans are??
>To initiate them into cuckoldry
You know we have energetic system. Chakras. Counter-initiation could be considered inversion of the energetic system. Thus making a man a faggot, shifting his energy from the spear to the hole. I believe homosexualization of people these days is occult operation. That is what I meant by Dark faggot Side.
Yet we have another principle - Light from Darkness. The Black Sun. You get so deep in blackness, you just say 'fuck it mane' and your darkness start shining. The nigredo phase.
Well, I don't know friends. I'm just trying to connect the dots. If you have intuitions or ideas share them. Will try to work as a lodge.
>You know we have energetic system
>Chakras
>shifting his energy from the spear to the hole
>inversion of the energetic system
http://www.tantrikstudies.org/blog/2016/2/5/the-real-story-on-the-chakras - something that might be of interest to you.
I'm not sure how you can "shift energy from the spear to the hole" and don't know anything about "inversion of the energetic system" despite having studied chakras quite a bit, again… Elaborate?
>I believe homosexualization of people these days is occult operation
Homosexuals were there from the beginning of mankind. In the civilizations which weren't contaminated by Abrahamic faiths they often had special place in society, connected with magic, ritual and general esotericism. Is the LGBT community cancer? Yes, and most of gay people don't like it either, it gives us a bad name. I'd like to consider it a vocal minority, but sadly more and more homos buy into it, so I don't even know anymore.
We had a great discussion about it, check it out
>Homosexuals were there from the beginning of mankind.
of course. and I believe their percentage is constant. at least was until our time. now there is an agenda to estrogenize males. and make them females.
I've met this opinion: that legalization of homosexuality was made to de-activate faggot threat. Look, when they are hated - they organize against the society and could be used by another country's intelligence service to make spies etc. Sounds smart.
>"inversion of the energetic system"
>elaborate
Try nofap and start meditating on erotic. You'll feel power at the spear. But if your energy was inverted you'll feel energy at your bottom. means your loosh is draining to the qlippothic realms. not a specialist on that last one, but it feels reasonable. satan is portrayed as anal fixated being.
>place in society, connected with magic, ritual and general esotericism.
I was surprised founding out about the seidr a homosexual rite and Odin. Yes, magician deals with the feminine. For that reason alchemists of old were working in pair with their Soror Mystica's. To create balance. btw, Love is a strong Magical Agent
Hm, interesting info on the reversion. Spear-penis? Bottom-root or anus?
Never heard about this idea of reversion, care to elaborate?
>Try nofap and start meditating on erotic. You'll feel power at the spear.
Huh, most of the time I've heard about feeling power at the base of the spine, roughly around the area of muladhara chakra, which corresponds to what you said about "the energy at the bottom" and it wasn't homosexual people (or at least I assume they weren't) who were saying this. Regarding muladhara chakra - the notion that each chakra corresponds to some area of life, like for example heart chakra - emotions, family etc. is really a stretch, as some Western authors subjectively came up with such things, but in certain X century tantra from Kaula school I found the description of the lowest center (muladhara) as being connected to Kama (sexual pleasure), so I guess that even old spiritual masters had their "energetic system reversed" :^)
Also, I'm bisexual and lately focusing more on my gay side, and I haven't felt any energy "at the bottom", pretty much not ever. If I do some sex magic and actually focus on the energy I feel it in the chest area, even when I'm not consciously directing it there, it happens spontaneously.
>satan is portrayed as anal fixated being
Actually my view of Satan is more in accord with Spiritual Satanists - i.e. benevolent entity, opposing YHVH and his legions. Also, I'm pretty sure that the theme of Satan's "anal fixation" comes from exoteric Christian medieval sources.
However it was or wasn't used, there is also an entity by that name. Not to mention Melek Taus and Yezidis.
> Spear-penis?
yes
>care to elaborate?
your sexual energy either go upwards and it is healthy, either go backwards. it nothing really. just our sexual energetics gets fucked when we get toxicated with junk food, mercury etc.
> I've heard about feeling power at the base of the spine, roughly around the area of muladhara chakra,
I've said you have to feel erotic first.
>ego
>freud, jung
>collective unsonscious
>'archetypes, ma-an'
Are you coming from .. there? lol. Satan in the accuser.
I prefer to equate him with the ruler of this realm. With materialism for masses, power for the behind-the-mirror elite.
>I've said you have to feel erotic first.
Yes, what I meant was when involved in some sex - related stuff obviously.
>ego
>freud, jung
>collective unsonscious
>'archetypes, ma-an'
I would try to explain but "pearls before swine".
dude. You have something to say - say it. We'll try to increase our powerlevel.
>You fucking retards
this is simply demeaning. aren't you a noble Truth Seeker almost an Aristocrat! at least spiritualy? lets have a little respect for each other. These are fascinating topics that need to be discussed breathlessly in the state of awe.
And when someone start insulting or spaming with quotes (at least rephrase it with your own words, show how do YOU understand it. and what you don't) its a level of buss-stop bum-fights for cheetos.
>ruler of this realm
The ruler of this realm is Christ. Maybe you don't see it because you haven't invited Love into your Heart enough.
Satan is hardly a single entity. It's more like a banner that exploitative STS entities hide behind.
And then there's the metaphorical Satan, the conceptual thinking mind, always pulling you away from your quiet place of peace and rest with Christ through inane bullshit ramblings.
Read more New Testament my friend, there is hardly anything from the OT worth caring about.
>The ruler of this realm is Christ. Maybe you don't see it because you haven't invited Love into your Heart enough.
The ruler of this realm is Kali. Maybe you don't see it because you haven't invited Bhakti into your Heart enough.
>Satan is hardly a single entity. It's more like a banner that exploitative STS entities hide behind.
Christ is hardly a single entity. It's more like a banner that exploitative STS priests hide behind.
>Read more New Testament my friend
Read more Nag Hammadi scrolls my buddy.
On the unrelated note to Kali of course but if anyone might read something related to Christianity it might as well be it's roots.
The point is, there are many ways to look at things, why should I just accept your particular way?
It's a very simple symbol so has a lot of meanings:
One of the first uses of the pentagram was made by the pythagoreans and It was chosen purely because of its mathematical properties.
It was later used to represent the 5 elements:Fire,Earth,Water, Air,Akasha/Spirit, OR Metal,Wood, Water, Fire, Earth. It can also mean the 5 wounds of Christ. It could be a symbol of the microcosm, or human, while the hexagram represented the macrocosm, or universe. It can even represent Venus. Not to mention the variations like the Sigil of Baphomet.
In the case of OP picture, E. A. Koetting uses it to represent simply the Left Hand Path, which is (for him) rebelling against mainstream religions and archieving personal "godhood".
There is no "2deep666me" meaning there.
You weren't the person who I replied to, that person thinks using a Christian paradigm, and so do I, mostly. Which is why I replied in the way I did.
Also, if you were familiar with the Nag Hammadi Scrolls, Gnosticism, or Esoteric Christianity, you'd know that Christ isn't exactly an entity, but rather a speck of Source, the mitochondria of the spirit indwelling within and giving life to everything.
And just because there are many ways to look at something, doesn't mean every way is as truthful as the next. There's always one way that provides truth beyond all others. I'm not saying it's my way specifically, but to always be looking for that ultimate Truth is what makes someone a seeker.
Also, your switching out of words from my comment doesn't work. Bhakti isn't invited into one's heart, its a devotion that actively has to be sought after; on the other hand, Love is be effortless from the beginning once you drop pretenses. The concept of Kali is dualistic in nature, whereas Christ (as previously defined by me) is not.
I will give you this though, Bhakti is a wonderful practice, with shouldn't be overlooked by anyone. Attached is an analogous Christian way of looking at Bhakti.
>Syncretism For Dummies
I agree though. Why limit yourself to one way of thinking, one paradigm, when you can take the truth from all of them?
You be a decent at this you need a good intuition though, or else you'll just become an edgy satanist (almost happened to me, I was this |—–| close to doing that Joy of Satan blood commitment ritual almost 4 years ago.)
>that person thinks using a Christian paradigm
Not everyone using the word "Satan" uses it in it's Christian sense, for example Spiritual Satanists or people who equate Satan with just a general idea of an opposer of IHVH.
>Bhakti isn't invited into one's heart, its a devotion that actively has to be sought after; on the other hand
Bhakti isn't "just" devotion. In Vedanta you have three types of love. Kama - which is sexual, physical love, Prema - which is emotional love and Bhakti - which is divine love. Kama and Prema are based on a desire and on a certain feeling of incompleteness, it's selfish love based on such statements as "I need you", "I want you", it can be as a business agreement "You make me feel loved so I love you". Bhakti on the other hand is selfless love, it's unity with the Godhead. In it's highest aspect as Parabhakti, it is enlightenment. It's not to be "sought after", it's to be realized as already existing within.
>The concept of Kali is dualistic in nature
What? That's like the biggest misconception one can make in regards to Her. The basic premise of Tantra (and Vedanta but Kali is more connected with Tantra) is non-duality. I've never met more non-dual philosophy, and the Goddess Kali is also non-dual. What did you mean, could you elaborate?
It's an attempt at marketing. Matthew the Magical Carpet Cleaner is pretty terrible at it.
Tbh the content in his books isn't that bad, he just tries too hard to sell them by adding all that edgy shit and fails miserably.
>>The public relation bureau of the Vatican appluds your decision to neclet the old testent for to long we have had to piss around the pot so we wouldent contradic ourselfs but youve made a wise choice by overlooking our texts made to convert barbarians and by sticking to the texts made to convert civilised pagans. Quick question for our statistics if we realese the newer testament are you wiling to overlook the new one.