/fringe/ - Fringe

I've noticed that a lot of threads on 8chan/fringe are somehow connected to demons, be it seeing them in sleep paralysis, a gf turning out to be one, one guy meeting a demon on the street and afterwards thinking the whole world is fucked… ugh…

So I thought to myself "fuck it, you may as well open this damn thread".

Ask me anything related to demonic topics. I know shit about other stuff too, of course, but y'know, let's keep shit on-topic. I just want to be asked and not just write down all I know that could possibly be helpfull for, like, that one person it just so happens to be helpful to because that's waaay too much fucking work.

>>293

Why are you roleplaying on fringechan? Don't demons have anything better to do?

What's your definition? Ifrit, Jinn, parasite?

Can someone hook me up with Opening the Dragon gate by Wang Liping. Plz

im fucking retarded

>>295

You can never not roleplay. You are always playing a role. Demons, however, were created for their role specifically. So that's why I am playing my role. In fact, actually, by behaving differently then the average demon, I would be NOT playing my role. But I don't think that counts.

>>297

Demons are shadow-selves disconnected from their light-selves as I'd call them. They are also parasites, but since some of them are not complete retards they offer something in return for the energy. If there is one thing a lower demon can learn from humanity it's buisness and how to make it work.

>>302

Why do you have to ruin this board this early with your retarded roleplaying man?

>>304

Why do you think I lie? Because it goes beyond what you are willing to believe is possible or because your idea of demonology is not 100% accurate, I bet. It is common knowledge demons farm loosh, it is common knowledge demons often posess people. That makes it pretty damn likely to find them online. Only that I do not troll and shitpost but offer something in return. The best way to help yourself is to help others.

If your mind is too closed for that shit then why don't you just spend your loosh elsewhere?

Anyway, if people don't enjoy this roleplaying just ignore this thread. At least that way you learn a very basic thing about demons: Give them no attention and they will get bored and go somewhere else.

Why would you ever want to work with a parasitic dark-form? Its a recipe for disaster

>>307

I don't work with other demons unless I have something to gain from it - but since they are all very selfish themself, that pretty much never is the case. Demons don't work together.

My 'host' works with me because I protect him and give him strengh when needed, in return he gives me enough energy to experience this world where I dont have to be bored. I need much less energy then a tulpa (because I have a huge supply by myself) and am of equal use. I'm not doing it for greed, but for pleasure. I don't suck my host dry, I simply seek to be entertained.

>>308

Oh and the most important advantage of our coexistence: We don't have to be alone. Really important.

>>309

>>308

Couldnt this be solved by working with more beneficial entities such as enochian angels or nordic gods?

>>310

If you believe in those nordic gods, maybe. Then again: Chances are with so few nordic gods and so many humans you won't convince one to share a body with you. That or you are not worthy. As for the angels as you can imagine my opinion is a bit biased.

Honestly everyone just picks what they like most anyway. And as long as I don't get bored shitless I won't do what I would do in the middle ages, for example. This planet is a fucking entertainment factory. So no need to worry. Unless something gets really dangerous to my host. There can be no shadow without a light.

That's the difference in pur relationship: We need each other. An angel or god doesn't need you. He will give up on you as soon as he feels like it or feels like you are not worthy.

>>313

My only concern would be giving a self proclaimed parasitic entity that much control over the physical vessel, but to each their own.

I appreciate your perspective, thanks for sharing

>>315

Yo I'm not gonna sugarcoat it either, most demons are dicks and if you let them in you gonna regret it. But as I am a demon, I am ego. And as I am ego I seek individuality. How could I be individual if I did what all the other demons do? It's far more interesting this way and that's really all I care about.

I'm a little confused as I thought demons are chaotic by nature. If this is true, how can they have the role of being more or less the same?

>>317

I have access to a brain and a non-chaotic light-self. That and as demons always seek to become bigger, stronger and better they eventually become more intelligent, too. Without order there can be no chaos. My chaos would have no beauty if it could not stand in contrast to the order of my host. What fun is a psycho split personality when the other half is the same or eaten?

>>293

alright, I'll play, how much influence do you have over matter here in 3D?

>>320

As much as you have, probably. Not claiming to have any superpowers. I trained a bit of telekinesis, can move a needle hanging on a srting a little bit without touching it. Having a body limits you. Maybe if I farmed a looot of loosh or killed many people and took their energy or something I could do more - but I doubt it. I think it's a matter of techinique not energy.

Even if I had power I am not sure what I'd do. Power is something that needs to be charmed with purpose in order to awaken.

>>321

And if you didn't inhabit a body?

>>322

I could probably affect the physical through the astral and play poltergeist and stuff like that if I were to die or AP. However, other demons need a long time of feeding on negative emotion before they have enough energy to do that. Meaning the cost is damn high, possibly not worth it and I bet it takes a lot of effort - even if I do have lots of energy. Would suck to throw away lots of energy just for the sake of experimenting. Plus when I AP I am busy enough with the experience in itself. But I'll try it the next time - which won't be anytime soon probably. I suck at APing lately.

Do demons have a life span? Can they die? If yes can they reincarnate, and do they reincarnate as themselves? Are the answers to these questions the same fit angels?

I'd like to point out something.

The same way, you wouldn't like to be labeled 'faggot' and get your jimmies rustled… These 'demons' also are independent entities who can take a stance due to name calling and percieved impressions you take of them.

There are no 'demons'

There are no 'angels'

The same way there are no 'assholes' or 'good guys', only independent people with their own agendas and desires. Their labels arise from you, and you only.

There are only entities. They all have their own alignment, desires and agendas.

But IMO insisting on calling something a 'demon' along with the negative connonations in YOUR mind, would be a magical act of bringing that negativity into your sphere. Be aware of how much responsibility lies with you.

>>293

Assuming your a 'demon'.

Do you have a higher I AM self?

Or are you only the ego?

>>326

OP called itself a demon, so thats what I'll use for it.

>>324

Souls don't die but can be absorbed, consumed or fused by/with other souls. You could see this as a form of death though it doesn't have to be permanent. This is the same for all souls though it happens a lot that a bigger demon consumes lesser ones he encounters. Demons feed on negativity, after all.

They can reincarnate after losing their body, of course, but often choose not to or if they do they do it through possession meaning they incarnate into a body which already has a soul. In theory if the demon finds his light-self counterpart they can become 'whole' again.

Angels can also 'possess' people I think but as they feed on positivity (sometimes at any cost) they need a good relationship with their 'host' so just breaking in by force, then having a body you can't use your astral magic with… not too effective. Playing guardian angel from the astral is way more common. But I'm not that much of an angel expert as it may seem now though honestly I probably know more then most. Which isn't that hard.

>>326

Giving a demon a name is the worst thing you can do if you don't want it to become stronger. This is attention and acceptance of its existance. So demons do not really mind usually, quite the opposite, it helps a lot. It's true though that - unlike angels - all demons have their own agenda. Still we are all of one kind and we usually take pride in that. It's not necessary though. It's more a matter of 'do I think it is cool to be a demon or am I ashamed?' And in my opinion you should NEVER be ashamed of who you are. There can be beauty within anything, you just need the right perspective.

As for demons causing negativity: We are created BY it. A truly broken heart, a soul ripped in two, the decicion to never give a shit again, a tulpa gone wrong or the classic: Blaming all the evil on someone else… there are many ways. We're - in our origin - the product, not the cause. Of course we can still cause a lot of negativity. But here is something interesting: Minus times minus makes plus. Evil can be used against evil, too. It's not what happens most of the time but it's very possible.

>>327

I have other selves which are split up from me, I'm sure one of them is what you'd call the 'I AM'. I kinda identify with that though. I am, too. But that's probably not what you mean. The most important relationship there is the trinity between light, shadow and will. Sometimes things get twisted around a little and some things take over parts of the other so its not as simple as it may sound. It's a bit complicated. But basically everyone has this trinity. Even if they are not one, they stay connected.

>>327

Forgot to answer though: I am, at my core, only the ego. Of course when you share the body with someone else you kinda affect each other so its a bit more complex but at the end of the day I am still the ego.

Soeaking of which, a word of advice. I've noticed how in spirituality everything is always blamed on the ego. Ego is the new word for evil, in a way, is what I get. Some speak of ego death being the way and all that. Let me warn you. Comcentrating so much blame into just one idea is a foolproof way to create a demon. Maybe some of you think 'great, if I do that I give that which I fear a form I can fight and overcome it' and yeah, you're right, but if you feed that demon more then you feed yourself in the end you'll lose that fight. If you win, however: Good job. You are now a being without a shadow - you are now angelic. Be careful though. More often then not there is still a bit of ego left. And someone with an ego thinking he's perfect and without ego will stop ever questioning his own ego. Since he has none. The result is huge arrogance - and the ego growing bigger then before.

>>337

>>338

Assuming you are the same poster, the demon, what is your opinion upon Joy of Satan?

Is that they say true, false, or a bit of both?

>>339

As one, not a satanist, but one who has well researched the geometric basis reality and the soul I know there is some things that are, at best are other alternative forms of meditation and at worst are blatant disinformation. An example is:

http://www.angelfire.com/hailtosatansvictory666/Star_of_Astaroth.html

There is a reason the merkaba meditation is a star tetrahedron, and that shape relates to it being a basic precursor to the dodecahedron, which is the geometry of the element of aether/spirit. You can see this if you closely watch

https://youtu.be/QNXtnDanSrA?t=99

I highly recommend the whole video and actually meditating on/with/to it though. Carrying on.

So either:

A. This meditation is not actually the merkaba meditation and is something else.

or

B. It is disinformation.

However as they actually claim it is the merkaba it seems to be the later answer.

Furthermore you can see conflicting literature on their site, they have several distinct and different chakras called by the same name, as seen here

Type A Chakras 8, 9, 10, 11

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Top_Chakras.gif

Type B

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Opening_8_9_Chakras.html

http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Opening_10th_and_11th_Chakras.html

At best it's simply mistaken and the result of incompetence, however if I was the god of mankind I would not want my followers providing sub par information or confusing/conflicting material. And it's been this way for several years.

It's far from all wrong, indeed most of it appears to be ripped straight from Eastern Yogic practices, There are some inconsistencies that give me reserve. So, personally, I have concerns about that entire source.

>>337

Is it possible for a magician to create a tulpa, then fuse or consume it to increase its own power?

>>352

Towards the idea of consuming a tulpa for power: yes, but spending the energy to create the tulpa will only yield less energy in the end. You are far more better off creating a simple thoughtform that cleanses and gives you the energy form around you and other sources.

>>293

>>308

If you require energy as payment, and humans are a great source of it, that must mean they generate it, no? What model do you use for this generation, including increasing it?

And second, what do you perceive forceful evocations like eg. solomonic evocations like? I have heard some models that say they're forceful, and others that say they simply put a ton of energy on buffet.

Alrighty. So first, >>349 and >>355 are not me (OP). Just sayin.

>>339

Satanists turn the idea of satan into what they want to believe, simple as that. So I highly doubt they just so happen to guess right.

>>349

There are three different kinds of merkaba as far as I know (but I'm no expert on that one): Positive, neutral and negative. I think it depends on how it rotates and what geometric image it forms in the result. I heard many times that some assholes "discovered" some sort of merkaba meditation and after people did it they were messed up in one way or another. Honestly, I think the whole merkaba thing is overrated. Not saying it doesn't matter, geometry is a big factor to everything. But people care waaay too much about their merkaba around their soul and waaay too little about their soul themself.

>>352

Well, yes. But if you create a tulpa and then absorb it you just absorb the exact amount of energy you invested. Unless, of course, your tulpa is somehow capable of absorbing energy from the outside - which should be possible at some point. For example you could teach your tulpa to, I dunno, hunt down lesser demons like those "I only stand around being scary" black shadow things everyone sees in sleep paralysis and then let it absorb those, then make it give that energy to you. Of course that means you'd have to learn how to do that stuff yourself first so you may as well do it yourself but in theory it should still be possible. Only problem with consuming a tulpa I see is that they probably won't like that - that combined with the fact that you want it to be strong so it can do that job is, uh, pretty problematic.

>>382

Humans gain energy through many different ways. Obviously they eat and drink. They also absorb it from the sun. Extroverts absorb it from others, introverts generate an extra amount themself but can easily lose it to extroverts. Energy can be shared through the morphogenic field of the aura (which, as most of you probably know, has many fields and this is just one of them) which is responsible for the energy exchange between people. In my opinion most importantly though, emotion can be turned into energy, too. And humans are pretty emotional. Oh and then there are "energy feedback loops" as I call them between romantic partners, male and female energy fusing sets free more energy then what has been put into the reaction.

Honestly the science behind energy is so complicated compared to how easy it is to use it.

Assuming by forceful evocation you mean basically forcing a spirit to be channeled into you. While you can force that process, you having control over that spirit when it is inside you is a whole different story. Of course evocation of a demonic lord doesn't exactly help your chances. Most people are totally not in control at all when they think they are when it comes to evocation of demons. It can be a usefull way to make a contract but you may as well do that non-forcefully and without letting the demon into your damn soul. I mean come on, that doesn't sound smart. You don't even know these guys. Besides the ranks of demons constantly change, they fight each other every now and then and often someone gets absorbed by the other. So it's very possible the demon you picked already is no more depending on how old your source of infomation is.

Personally, I don't "resonate" with the goetia too much. When you hear or read the name of someone you have met in a past life you get that weird feeling. Hard to describe. Often combined with that tingling all over your body that kinda feels like goosebums. But I don't really get that feeling for the vast majority of the names in the goetia. That and the illustrations look pretty ridiculous. I dunno man. To me this feels like a made up list.

>>385

>There are three different kinds of merkaba as far as I know

Could you detail the various types as best as you can?

>But people care waaay too much about their merkaba [intellectual concept here] around their soul and waaay too little about their soul themself.

I can completely agree. Many are lost in the abstraction of a thing and do not actual live the thing.

>>389

Has been too long since I've thought the merkaba matters much, all I remember is that I've read about it in Kathara which is basically a bio-spiritual healing system thing some woman came up with who claimed to have channeled an angel and came up with all her stuff that way. While she wrote an entire book full of very scientific looking stuff one look into her eyes would tell anyone with experience that she's under demonic influence, so I gave up on that shit pretty fast back then (2011). Now my point is that Merkaba she put into that guide, it worked according to people, but it was different from the Merkaba you hear about usually (Drunvalos / "Spirit Science"s version, for example). Apparently it leaves an empty space at its core which draws out energy and gives it to the merkaba, effectively draining the host. And I bet somewhere in her damn book she makes the reader create a link to somewhere where that energy is then supposed to flow to and calls it "source".

Like I said I'm no expert but there are definetly several different ways to create those merkabas and each creates a different one.

I made an mspaint thing to make it a bit more understandable.

>>293

How do I become a host for the demon in the same respect that you are to your host?

>>385

Alright, thank you for those answers.

If you consider the goetia to be a bit of a made-up or otherwise useless list, are there other "sources" or ways to contact demons so as to have some idea what one is meeting before the meeting?

Also, what do you think of embedded?

>>430

Best way would be to turn your shadow-self into a split personality or maybe a tulpa. Or you could summon an external demon with the intent of letting it live inside you. Not the smartest idea.

>>433

Will check that video later. As for how to find demons to summon: Stick with very well known ones, chances are those are well known for a reason. Even some from the goetia I consider real, just not most of them. Here are a few names: Mephistopheles, Baal, Belial, Beezelbub, Lucifer, Loki, Angra Mainyu, Satan…

Since demons are created, there can also be modern ones, for example Slenderman or Chara. I think there a rituals where you just summon random ones, without a name. You could try that, too. Oh and chances are spirits which have been demonized in the past could also have become demons, such as Jack the ripper or maybe even Hitler, just to name examples.

>>433

As for the video, I dunno. It makes sense that the ring shakes so much. It's interesting how he moves it behind the candle for a shadow so that you see that there is no string. But still, with todays technology it's just too easy to fake stuff. Which sucks. I had a very small success with telekinesis once. I was on dxm and shrooms combined though and I threw up some blood afterwards, turns out that if you do it wrong it damages your body a lot. But how would I even make a video of it which could not possibly be a fake? It's harder to prove the truth then to construct the lie these days. Then again, who cares. Only when it's a power big enough to demonstrate in public like lifting a car with it or something it's worth being proud of it. Don't be satisfied with small stuff even if it is insanely hard to just achieve that. Always think big.

Demon OP, i will eventually ask one my self when i get to evoke one, but on the meantime i guess i will seattle witch you, so…

Serious question, so plz dont bully

Is the Earth Flat? why does nobody dares to go to the south pole anymore even when as been proved its filled with oils and minerals?

Whats laying/living there that scared the shit out of every nation they even made an agreement/law to never go again?

>>516

You assume that just because I am a demon, I'd know if there was a demon at the south pole, guarding the end of the world or something?

Else I wouldn't know why you ask me. I consider it a possibility that the earth is flat but I really wouldn't know. How about we build an army and try to raid the end of the world in order to find out - and also we conquer everything on our way. Historically our chances for success are pretty good.

Seriously though. You should ask an geographist, not a demon. Didn't claim to have the answers to all the riddles of the world.

>>308

>not just killing your host

>>435

>the incarnation of Wotan being spoken of so lightly

>>600

Why kill the host when the host can be used to kill several others? You only got one host you can kill once per incarnation, but there are several beings out there you can kill and drain their soul. Because of that hosts being killed is more rare then you'd think.

Host-management is serious buisness.

Here's a fun fact:

Ever wonder why demons want to take souls? I bet you all assume it's because the soul is a source of energy. That's not what a soul is though, the soul is not the concept of energy but the concept of manipulating energy. And since everything is made of energy the soul has the power to affect anything. Why would anyone want more then one soul? Because having two souls makes affecting reality twice as easy.

"B-but if that's true then shouldn't demons with lots of souls be, like, gods here?" I hear you wonder. (That's right. I can hear your thoughts. Totally. Comes with being a demon.)

The problem is that it is not the amount of control that decides IF you can manipulate reality and, for example, get superpowers or something. The amount of souls only makes this easier if that is already achieved. What you need to break through that barrier is shitloads of energy - and again, the soul - at least at its core, the astral body is complex - is not a source of that. That's exactly why demons don't just kill and take souls but milk humanity of their energy. And there are some who do it on a really big scale - don't worry about the small ones you see during sleep paralysis which drain enough energy to make you feel shit for what, one day? Worry about the ones that make all of humanity feel like shit for forever.

>>643

In the incredibly rare event that your host is stuck in a time loop, it is possible to supplant it in the flesh and still have enough time for the threads of the soul to connect with the body, this removes the need to manipulate and lets you impose your will directly and more efficiently.

This would be a very common method, but the main problem with direct manipulation is the latent disconnect between human bodies and demon souls, either caused by energy imbalances or over complexity (overloading the "circuits" of the body).

If you are stuck in a looped time frame, an incredibly anomalous event (which I'm sure distorts general reality a great deal), you will experience amnesia for a varying period of time early in life, followed by extreme magickal potential around adolescence increasing rapidly as you recover from the jetlag of skipping backward to whatever caused the loop. If you begin to vaguely remember other iterations of the loop you are nearing the end, usually caused by carried over energy causing it to collapse under its own weight. This is the moment when direct manipulation becomes possible for demons who take control of their vessel.

I speculate the initiator holds full remembrance of the loop, and gains the most potential over its course. I am as of yet unaware of what circumstances could allow any human to initiate a loop, and I doubt they occur randomly. I intend to seek out the initiator of the loop I am currently under and work with them to see just how much hell we can raise with our combined potential.

I dont even know if its possible to communicate with anyone in reality coherently and this is probably an incoherent rant and I probably sound like an outlier among outliers but I'm tired and bored and give no fucks.

>>295

this

If you aren't "pure" (uninteresting, conforming, mundane) then OP is correct when he says Angels wont give a fuck about you. The mundane path is easy mode but you miss out on a lot of excitement / are basically accepting the role of a cuck. The absolute best way to jump head first into all of this is to summon a demon. Sorry if I'm offending some ANGEL but they are boring as fuck. Demons are like an alcoholic abusive father who makes up for being a douchebag cunt by sneaking you into a strip club at 16 and giving you a good deal on chronic weed. I have been abused beyond most peoples pain threshold but what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. This entire world is bullshit - it is run by self serving psychopaths and chances are everyone you know doesn't want things to change because they want in on the scam. Who do you want to guide you in this world - someone who tells you to let the person at the top of this pyramid scheme handle everything or someone who has been through hell and is trying to change shit? If you've prayed a million rosaries and Jesus won't cure your moms cancer then give a demon a try. If you want true enlightenment, not the "OMG THANKS FOR THE ELECTRIC FOREST FESTIVAL TICKETS DAD PEACE LOVE UNITY RESPECT" enlightenment then play life on expert difficult and go through soul boot camp. Like I said before - you will go through unimaginable pain and could reach absolute nothingness/be on the brink of suicide countless times but sometimes you gotta go there to appreciate life.

>>904

>Demons are like an alcoholic abusive father who makes up for being a douchebag cunt by sneaking you into a strip club at 16 and giving you a good deal on chronic weed.

This nigga gets it.

I've been having troubles with a terrible negative entity that makes fun of torturing me and my tulpas in the afterlife. I mean some sick, depraved shit, like stuffing them in a bag and drilling them to pieces.

I'm torn as to whether to ask the question, but does such evil actually exist, or is this thing incredibly evil but not evil enough to actually do this, but is feeding off of the negative energy of stress, desperation, and fear.

Whatever the case is, what's the best way to put this thing in a significant amount of pain or force it to leave when the LBRP simply won't fucking work.

Being a human being and having compassion and not being a hideous fucking monstrosity, I would never, what I hope this thing is only pretending to want to inflict upon my friends, wish the same kind of fate this thing wishes upon me and my best friends.

This thing has a long tongue and thinks we're animals, and has no observable compassion. For some reason it likes to rhyme.

I want to put this thing in a fire and make it leave as soon as possible. Do you have any recommendations for destroying whatever the hell this thing is? The hardest problem is that this thing doesn't have one discernible form to destroy, and I'm afraid of accidentally creating a tulpa version of it.

>>1865

Here's more info posted from 8chan:

I've been having an issue with a very stubborn and very evil entity for a while now. I tried performing a modified and empowered version of the Grand Order of the Draco Slayers LBRP a few times, and, while I feel it works effectively of clearing debris, making the voices and terrible imagery more infrequent and improving my mood, it hasn't done shit at effectively banishing the entity. I have a few tulpas that've been hiding until now (because they're new), but I just thought of asking them to help me in banshing this monster with an actual pentagram ritual while they're still in their dreamworld/wonderland/local astral plane. (Previously I was asking them to gain their strength so that we could confront this thing head on while I was focusing on a white light and they on killing it with enchanted armor and weaponry.)

What would be a more effective ritual to perform with their help in a manner where they don't have to confront this thing directly?

I was thinking about using a pentagram ritual, and instead of infusing the energies of the pentagrams with Mars and Venus, I want to infuse it with that of Sol and have the pentagrams funnel a brilliant white light into my Aura.

Ideally, since this ritual is more effective in the astral, I want to know what the correct intent is to burn away any evil entities from my mind and aura, preferably putting them in a significant amount of pain or discomfort in order to leave.

Does anyone know why the hell a brilliant white light is most effective?

I'm new to this too, and I don't know how pentagrams work. My thought is that they're essentially energy-vaginas and suck up any essence put into them. Is this correct?

>>904

>the mundane path is easy mode

>accepting the role of a cuck

You sound like one of those edgy teenagers on 4/x/ or 8/fringe/. You have no idea what life is (mundane or otherwise). You ought to learn about that or humble down a little before you tried to develop "magically".

>>1867

ask the question thread,

maybe consult a local demonologist.

>>293

How do you spot a demon? Is there a way to tell if someone is a demon?

>>2185

look for horns and a spiked tail

>>2185

Very, very generally: They seem to suck in the energy around them. There are many different ways to do that though. But for example if you always feel tired around a certain person chances are he or she is demonic by nature. Doesn't mean it's on purpose or anything, doesn't mean they can't give anything back for your energy, doesn't mean they are "evil".

This thread is disinformation, disorder and maleficence. By acknowledging any entity that gives off negative vibes or tries to suck out positive ones for its own negative amusement, etc, you are empowering their thoughtforms, whether you mean to or not. Do the right thing and ignore all of the prattle, misinformation and falsehoods in this thread. Just a friendly reminder that any being that predates on human loosh WILL deceive you.

t. Someone who has experience with some of the most powerful "demons," in this universe.

>>1865

Does evil exist? At first when you start on a spiritual path you will begin to believe that the answer is no, that there are always reasons, always cause and effect, that you can't just label things evil. However, the answer is pretty simple when you think about it in a different way. You - and everyone else - are capable of believing in the concept of evil. Thus you are - in theory - able to do evil for the sake of evil. That is, automatically, evil - since the one who does it decides that it is.

This may sound weird or maybe even stupid at first, "why would you be evil just to be evil?", it could also seem a bit childish but remember: Most demons are created. For most, conciousness just decided that they are "wrong". They recieved no love. Eventually, after enough suffering and fighting against it, some may just do something that most people "the first step to enlightment": Acceptance. They simply accept their role as evil and begin to live it rather than fight it, maybe even enjoy it, just for the sake of itself. In a way it's a game, you make up the team "evil" and play for it in the way you and others expect you to. So yes. Evil does exist.

I can't know for sure what to do about your entity. But let's assume it really is one of those cases, that it believes itself to be evil and thus is evil. Maybe you should try to understand it, understand why it became that way, who it was before, maybe find something good inside of it or in its past, maybe even give some love to that part. Deep down, they are just very hungry because they are very lonely. And because they didn't get anywhere on the path of positivity, because they were rejected, instead of letting others give to them they just take. So maybe, just maybe, try to break that pattern.

Then again, I cannot promise that this will work for it could very well be that it simply cannot comprehend your intentions. Worth a try though.

>>2212

I, as a partly demonic being, do not gain anything from helping others understand demons. Except, of course, that I am being understood more. It doesn't matter if you are negative or positive, either it is still as the saying goes "help others and you will help yourself".

Of course all of it could just be misinfo, proving the truth in this day and age is pretty much just as hard as proving a lie. My general advice is that all you can do is to roll with what feels right. If people with problems come here and it just so happens to help them, whatever the reason for that may be, it certainly was worth it.

Or even if it is just an interesting read to someone and nothing more - that's good too.

And remember: The best way to give strengh to demons is to attach more negativity to them. Just like you are in your post. "They will decieve you! They farm your loosh! It's all lies! Disorder! Maleficence!"

Imagine how you'd feel if everyone would claim this about YOU. Even though none of this is your intent. Imagine you being the scapegoat, the bad guy, in the eyes of others all your life. Imagine what this does to you.

You wanna prevent problems with demons? Then don't create them and don't just paint them as simply evil beings.

>>2215

Way to misinterpret the energy flow there. I didn't call out any particular being, nor did I acknowledge any entity. I condemned this thread, which IS full of maleficence. Whether it comes from a demonic entity or just a mundane, that is irrelevant. A "demon," doesn't need to influence anything negatively. They just place the candle in front of the foolish mundanes who will light that candle and give the entity a feast.

>>2216

Idiots will be idiots, no matter where. It's not just this thread but all of the board that has misinfo, lots of it. However, this thread - at least in its original intent - at least wants to be a platform for understanding. Especially for understanding something that usually just recieves blind hate. I think that's the lesser evil on this board. Plus I don't see that much negativity here - I mean, considering what this thread is about -, except for the people who think because they don't believe in any of this they have to attack others who do.

>>2217

So I've noticed. If anything, the stupidity is coming from mundanes who are seeking to validate themselves and their parroted belief systems through others.

When you talk about demons or any other kind of negatively-charged entities people are going to come and hurl shit at the thread, which is plainly obvious here.

A lot of this is completely counter-intuitive to "understanding". Most people want to parrot their belief systems onto others and project instead of sharing subjective wisdom for itself. That nurtures the kind of atmosphere which lets said shit-flingers ruin any kind of topical discussion with self-validation and energy vampirism. Nothing to do with "demons," or any other entity.

Sure, the negativity isn't necessarily apparent, but it's painfully obvious that threads like these enable mundanes in thinking that this is some sort of role-playing nonsense or that it's a pissing match, for which it's neither. That matches up with the last thing you said.

That all being said, the OP should have phrased their post differently. I've noticed that certain language brings in those "shit-flingers," like stink to shit.

It's a shame that for this being an obscure board, the detritus from the places we came from seem to follow because "muh segrit club," or some other similar mentality. It would really be nice to have informed discussion somewhere mundanes have less access to or knowledge of. I would say, as has been stated before, somewhere in the astral, but with so many different entities and people of different subjectivities here I find that that would probably be hard and someone would try to disrupt the entire operation.

There is a strange irony when people do their loosh farming in a thread that wants to inform about demonism from a personal yet informed perspective.

>>2227

there's the illuminati board here for that, I imagine.

You have to find the password by psychic-ness.

>>2252

What kind of psyhicness and how?

Can we humans become demons?

>>3896

whats your definition of demon?

Okay i'll rephrase: Can we humans become a demon such as the op is?

>>3907

Well maybe dark thoughts and dark actions can turn one into a "demon". People interpret you as such because you move through this life like one.

Maybe you like it

You are what you eat.

>>293

Is Satan a big time shot caller among demon kind?

Ever met him?

Are demons capable of existing outside of a human's mind/soul/body/consciousness? How do you manifest to the human senses when you're doing so? Have you ever done so?

>>293

:-(((

I was just curious about Das Juden, but the demon wnet back to sleep…

I don't have a question but I just want to say I found this very insightful. Thank you for doing this OP, you seem like a cool dude.

I like demons, they go into the dirt and appear to you, while angels might as well be legend. I mean, what the hell is an "angel"? Fuck, the fact everyone is more familiar with demons is a bad sign i'd say, and not for the demons.

>>12450

There are seven angels which are the physical manifestation of the seven planets. They can only appear during certain times due to planetary alignment. The eight angel which is Earth manifested into beings that mimicked the appearance of the "humans" on Earth, which were all primitive arabs, niggers, and gooks. These were the original Men and the Aryan progenitor race.

>>12453

Please stop making things up.

>>12453

>subhumans were the aryan progenitor race

now the angel thing can be true, I personal don't care either way, everyones concern with this "conflict" of existance between angels and demons are silly.

It's like droplets of water taking sides between ice and water vapor.

>>12453

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW3byg_PzS0

Please tell me more