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Let's discuss all important topics divulged by Bear Heart concerning magickal defense and spiritual progress that are meant to be useful for anyone at any level of their spiritual progress. These rituals and knowledge should be provided freely to everyone, including our friends on 8/pol/, who seem to presently be waking up. Bear Heart also contends certain interesting points about particular spirits.

Bear Heart has been in the occult for some twenty years, and went through extreme trials (like surviving and being ruthlessly attacked in the wilderness for multiple days).

The former champion of the Grand Order of the Draco Slayers before they were disbanded, Bear Heart was also a third degree true Wiccan (not this new-age shit that he sincerely hates). He was even once invited to join an order of millionaire vampires in Spain–though he declined.

This is the version of the hermetic Tree of Life used by the Grand Order of the Draco Slayers. I notice a severe lack of harmony between various conjectures at which godform corresponds to which nexus, so I'll elect to go with the model used by Bear Heart.

Also, I see quite a bit of dissimilarity between various versions of the Kabbalah, perhaps pushed on purpose to spread misinformation. In the GOODS version of the Kabbalah, Malkuth/Terra is placed underneath the feet, similar to the earth star chakra, Yesod/Luna-Lunar is probably placed at the genitals (I see some models where it's slightly above, where the sacral chakra is). Chesed and Geburah are at the shoulders, etc.

The GOODS daily routine is as follows (gotten from a blog post):

AM Routines

1. Acknowledgment of Prime Creator, sphere of personal

Essentially inviting in the Prime Creator to help heal your aura, visualizing a white light around you.

2. Grand Order of the Draco Slayer's version of the LBRP

3. Grand Order of the Draco Slayer's version of the Middle Pillar Ritual

4. Reporting for Duty/Healing, and reclamation ritual

5. Formulation of the Magical Armor

PM Routines

1. Lesser Banishing Ritual

2. Formulation of the Magical Armor (Codification coming soon)

GRAND ORDER OF THE DRACO SLAYER'S LBRP

First look at the illustrations I made to get an overall idea about most of the ritual is like (I got lazy, though). I took great care to get everything drawn swirling in the right directions.

Now, read both full descriptions (the two are written quite differently) at

http://goodsbackup.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/the-codified-lesser-banishing-ritual-of.html

and

http://serenitystreetnews.com/oct2012/Grand%20Order%20Of%20Draco%20Slayers.htm

(There's also an extremely lazy version out there that I don't recommend at all. Give these a look on the off chance you read the shitty version.)

Finally, watch these four videos on the matter:

(These first two are a bit vague, but still offer insight.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb8tkpqbjPc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6ReXFBAyZU

(These two videos are by far more informative, and actually releases high level stuff.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xv491JepHTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff1vHmZ6J6I

>>2860

Bear Heart never really did finish his in depth analysis of the GOODS LBRP, but he did offer some additional insight in these two videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRZ4SyBucGs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqmf-vVdT8

GRAND ORDER OF THE DRACO SLAYER'S MPR

Unlike the LBRP, this ritual is much simpler to figure out.

Read

http://goodsbackup.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/codified-middle-pillar-ritual-mpr.html

Now watch Bear Heart's first series on the matter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNWaoji8HD4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0pBcSfOrV0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXqq-523yHQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlJbMrgI31Q

His second series is more informative. There is a very interesting new concept here. Just as we all have astral bodies no matter if we're in astral projection or not (which you don't necessarily know what it's doing, but apparently

WE ALL HAVE PLANETARY BODIES TOO

Each planetary body 'corresponds to a particular nexus on the Tree of Life. This, I believe, is why the hermetic Tree of Life is a superior system to chakras. Bear Heart also contends that humans were aided in our spiritual evolution, which is why (I'm guessing) we have planetary bodies in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTA5-jMzDs8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgbxi3anlpE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRK6JnjLSMs

YOUR HIGHER SELF IS YOUR SOLAR BODY

From Bear Heart:

>Thor's real father is Thyrm–not Odin.

>Thor's true name is Thurs/Thurisaz

>Thor looks like a very large man, with the faces of a thousand men at once–a god of the common man indeed

>Thor has been referred to by other thunder gods as the thunder god

>Thor cares very much for his Germanic race

>In order to activate runes, you must bellow them out very deeply (from Thor)

>Apparently Thor is very tight with Elohim Gibor–perhaps there can be peace between Jews and Aryans?

>Odin is gigantic in magnitude, and celestial in appearance

>Angels are programmed to serve the will of the prime creator–they're like applets. You may call upon and evoke them.

>Any angel within your sphere of influence will obey your commands, so long as it's in their domain.

>Anything not an angel is a demon, including you. Demons aren't necessarily bad. In fact, most of them aren't.

>Saturn is a titan–a primordial Earth being that has never held a human life. Like an angel for Earth

From the current GOODS order:

>Archangel Michael and Heimdall from Norse mythology are in fact the same entity

>The Algiz rune is very useful for banishing

Watch their videos on the Faustian pact you are currently under. Essentially, you will be taken as slaves when you die. There is no need to accept this, though. This is VERY SECRET STUFF you won't hear from anyone else.

If you haven't figured out by now, the main youtube channel is

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCy2hlOEl5tfWg8MexR0XkTg

Their other channel is not recommended, as it's missing some videos. I'll link to it anyway though:

https://www.youtube.com/user/1HardcoreHadaway

Here are two videos to help break that pact:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJkkVQAgs_k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2CMAJKgE8E

I just want to chip in and say; quality thread, to the point and concise. Great contribution, keep it up. Hopefully I have some time to add more to this later today.

>>2866

Thank you very much! I plan to go through more of his videos and blog posts and outline anything important, perhaps making more OC if a ritual is difficult to follow.

Bear Heart said that (I paraphrase) the more people tap into the energy of the tree of life, the more powerful it becomes.

I don't get the whole idea of the GOODS

>Energy flows where attention goes.

I stopped watching the videos because I got the impression that the GOODS create their enemy themselves by focusing so much on some fight that doesn't really exist.

All that people actually have to do is realizing their creator nature and even Bear Heart says how all the "enemies" vanish on their own by doing this (in the second video >>2864)

So what's with all the fancy fighting stuff that he keeps talking about?

It was highly irritating to me to be introduced to scary dark entities that don't even actually matter in the attitude that he tries to convey.

Interesting timing since ive been watching his videos over the last couple of weeks. This is powerful stuff and the time is coming in which we shall fight the powers that be. I think the veil is about to be torn asunder.

>>2858

It's odd to note that, in their MPR, Bear Heart recommends in one video to visualize the nexus of Uranus to occlude with your head a little bit and actually touch the third eye and pineal gland. Alas, in the blog post it says above your head, and that's also the case for their LBRP where he clearly states it's above the head. I wonder if this is another difference between the GOODS' version of energy points and that used by other people.

It's hard for me, as I've worked with chakras for a while, and the production of a few egregores left a near constant buzzing in my third eye–so I KNOW that the third eye is real. It seems like it's more than a mere energy line between Neptune and Saturn, too–like a major organ.

Any other anons have ideas about reconciling the two systems?

>>2876

Above the head there is another chakra, different from the one on your forehead.

It's just that different systems often use different names for the same things and the same names for different things. You'll get used to it.

This is just a chaos magick perspective but if something works for you and you "KNOW" it to be true, then you can simply filter out contradicting content while using it.

>>2876

I am very reluctant to making concrete connections between the Kabala dots and chakras. Occult works are full of images where the human body has spots corresponding with the Kabala. There also images where the Kabala spots/lines correlate with chakras, and the various authors can't even agree on the locations, let alone correlations and explanations for doing so.

My upper main chakras and some minor ones on my skull are buzzing constantly, and the 7th and 6th connect inside my head. Whenever I focus I understand it all forms some unified etheric structure which can intensify and expand.

Is there any real reason to do this stuff? I did the middle pillar thing for a few weeks every day and it didn't do much else than other meditations did.

The ONE book recommendation I've seen given by Bear Heart

Twelve Lessons in the High Magickal Arts

>>>/library/75

>>>/library/78 (first link)

Bear Heart states that many books out there have been corrupted by Aleister Crowley. Indeed, there's a lot of bullshit out there. He recommends it for beginners

I love how Bear Heart really separates the wheat from the chaff.

Bear Heart's Comment on Visualization

Bear Hear repeats this mantra: "The bird of paradise comes only to an open hand."

This means that, when performing visualizations, do NOT try to force anything. Simply let the images come before you, and do not tamper with what does come.

ALL THE PRACTICE THAT HAVE YOU STARE AT A DOT FOR HOURS ON END, SWEATING IN DIFFICULT CONCENTRATION ARE WRONG AND COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.

Visualization should be a relaxed practice.

>>2859

Are all practices detailed? I'm merely listening to the videos, but whenever anything one can do is described it is drowned quickly in the chit-chat.

YOUR SOLAR BODY IS YOUR HIGHER SELF

YOUR LUNAR BODY IS YOUR ASTRAL BODY

>>2860

>>2862

ALTERNATE AND MORE EFFECTIVE RITUAL

Upon watching more of Bear Heart's videos, there's actually a far more effective ritual, both for banishing and activating your planetary bodies.

The Complete Banishing Ritual

This is a merger of the LBRP and MPR. Begin by performing the same beginning steps (astral body expansion, ball of light above your head, light descending down, forming a solar cross, vibrating Uranus, Terra, Mars, Jupiter, Sol, forming the breastplate, flying swastika, clasping hands, etc.) with one amendment: when performing the astral body expansion, imagine your body beginning to illuminate with bright white light (before ever drawing down the light from Uranus).

Once done, begin again to draw light from the ball of light and into your forehead. Vibrate Uranus. Now have a projection of the symbol for Uranus drawn in a platinum-white filled-in circle swallow you and putting you into a sphere–the sphere of Uranus. (Imagine a circle becoming larger and tracing out the shell of a sphere–that circle carrying the symbol for Uranus.) Bearing in mind ( >>3152 ), your Uranian body might not be as you expect it to look. Now, repeat this phrase:

"In the name of Uranus, I demand that my body of Uranus appear before me. By the name of Uranus, if you are not my Uranian body, I compel you to leave."

The name of this godform alone should be enough to compel any foreign spirits trying to trick you to leave.

Now, have your Uranian body stand to the left of you. Have your Uranian body trace the master planetary symbol, that is, two pentacles (one up, the other inverted) superimposed to make a hexagram with a cross, and around all this a circle. More than this, this symbol is an energetic pathway between the various nexuses (which is probably why it works so well). Begin by drawing the first pentacle by starting your Uranian body's arm angled from your left hip and drawing the symbol a few feet in front of you, go up slightly above your head, to your right hip, to your left shoulder, to the right shoulder, back to your left hip. This is the true banishing pentagram. Now, begin by having your Uranian body draw the other (inverted) pentacle by beginning at your right shoulder, down just slightly below your genitals, to your left shoulder, to your right hip, to your left hip, back again to your right shoulder–this is also referred to as a banishing pentagram (not sure where the invoking one comes into play, as I thought inverted pentagrams were meant to invoke). Now, with your Uranian body's hand at this point, draw a circle in a counter-clockwise direction (relative to your viewpoint), which is thought to be the warding aspect. Finally, vibrate the godname "Uranus," which will seal the master key symbol with the energies of Uranus, in his correct planetary sphere. Do this in all four directions. It is not clear whether you should actually physically turn when doing this procedure.

Now, do this same procedure for the following areas (use the respective symbol for each planetary sphere when doing the projection of the symbol) except for some slight modifications for Luna and Terra

Planet – Part – Color

Pluto – Neck – Radioactive green (different from the original MPR's deep purple)

Sol – Chest area/upper solar plexus – brilliant gold

Luna – Genitals – Not specified; I'm guessing bright purple (from the original MPR)

Terra – Feet (upper half at feet, lower hemisphere below ground) – dull black (probably solid and rock-ish, not dense black, light absorbing, vibrating anti-matter-ish, but that's just my guess)

Because of ( >>3156 ), I'm not sure what to do for your lunar body. Perhaps just imagine yourself tracing the symbols.

Once you get to Terra, actually open your eyes and for the first time draw out the symbols with your physical arms.

Be sure to vibrate "Luna" if female and "Lunar" if male, unless you want to masculinze/feminize yourself slightly.

Now you've activated each of your planetary bodies and protected them with wards.

>>3153

Yes, but sometimes he doesn't do it in the videos that are separate for the occasion.

>>3157

Make sure to focus on–and direct consciousness to–the appropriate nexuses when drawing the pentagrams.

>>3157

>>3159

Be sure to watch these videos on the matter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D13xPk-7JxU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bTDvBrZwKA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Q2Yx5JscwE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_2K_HW4UFk

>>3158

I saw. I plan on watching all videos first, then read the blog material.

I was just wondering if anyone has compiled the material already to make it easier getting started.

>>2876

>>2878

>>2879

THE THREE TREASURES

Bear Heart mentioned three other interesting energetic points not part of the Tree of Life. That is, the navel, the heart center (slightly above the Sol nexus), and the much sought-after third eye.

The three energy points have the unique properties:

Navel: Emanation of your sphere of personal influence (your aura). Protects against foreign spirits (especially the trans-plutonian cohort). The aura should be golden. The alchemical element is lead for this area; it is very tough and sturdy. This has a connection with the Solar sphere in that it is the center of your physical body.

Heart center: this is most responsible for personal magnetism, why other people like you, your emotional investment, etc. Free love damages this area, causing the person to become jaded. The Solar nexus protects this area. As we know, the Solar alchemical element is gold. Your heart center is much less durable than your navel point.

Third-eye: Mostly self explanatory. The familiar stuff concerning the area. This is a quite delicate area. Its alchemical symbolism is that of a delicate crystal.

For each of these areas, use the familiar technique where you feel as though you breathe in energy through the energy point. Breathe 27 breaths for the navel, 18 for the heart center, and 9 for the third eye. The energy flows upwards (like the Kundalini), so that's the best way to activate your third-eye. For the navel, imagine a golden energy flowing out of the navel and into your aura on the outbreath. Imagine the symbol for Sol every so often as you do this.

Videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAfakbR8yxI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXqOLebOmyg

>>3161

That's kind've what I'm attempting to do here. Stress the important points and whatnot.

Consider watching his videos to replace your readings for a while. From Bear Heart, I've heard that there's a lot of misinformation out there.

He even criticised modern Hermeticism itself.

>>3163

Yeah, I'm watching the videos first. Thank you for managing this topic. I've found some profound comprehensions.

>>2863

As it turns out, Elohim Gibor literally translates to "God of Geburah," or God of Mars. So the entity called Elohim Gibor might actually predate Judaic mysticism by aeons.

As usual, fuck Juden.

>>3165

You're welcome! By the way, Bear Heart has interested me greatly in Wicca. Are you a member of any covens? Try joining a kabbalistic Tree of Life one to get to the true practitioners of your field. Maybe I'll become a wiccan too.

>>3169

Sorry, I only chose that flag because I like the pentagram.

In what time frame were these videos made and where are the G.O.O.D.S. members all now?

>>3203

They apparently were made (I'm guessing) around 2012ish to 2013. The Grand Order of the Draco Slayers were disbanded, but then formed back together. They actually have a FaceBook page where you can get into contact with them. I'm not sure how to get a hold of Bear Heart himself, though.

>>3212

To be clear, Bear Heart is no longer in the order, but is probably still part of his Celtic/Germanic Wicca coven.

>>3212

>Grand Order of the Draco Slayers

Are you guys fighting dragons or just STS entities?

Besides advancing one's self spiritually, what is the difference between this system and any other?

Pretty much restating >>2869 's questions since there was never an answer to these questions:

>So what's with all the fancy fighting stuff that he keeps talking about?

>It was highly irritating to me to be introduced to scary dark entities that don't even actually matter in the attitude that he tries to convey.

All of this sounds rather interesting, but somewhat 'trapping'. (Although I have not looked at any of the videos) Even though advancing spiritually is very good, aiming one's goals towards fighting the STS side of things is rather closed minded.

My personal opinion upon this is:

spiritual advancement is good, just make sure to remember there are many paths. I'd also like to say that 8/pol/ has become a bit of a hivemind, and don't recommend going there.

>>3213

who is this bear heart guy?

>>3216

>>2869

>I stopped watching the videos because I got the impression that the GOODS create their enemy themselves by focusing so much on some fight that doesn't really exist.

>and even Bear Heart says how all the "enemies" vanish on their own by doing this

I, too, don't really go too far in depth about the reality of what particular entities they're fighting. This is because I have no direct experience with any of the entities. He has said that he's slain many reptilians on the astral plane, though. I mean, basically anything on the astral plane can shapeshift and deceive you. You can only trust your intuition and feel the power of the entities you deal with. Considering that Bear Heart is in close contact with Thor, and affirms that who he's dealing with is a very powerful entity, I guess he just has to trust that's who he's working with. One time Thor himself came to smash a reptilian in an astral projection. (Thor having slain the Midgaard serpent, being an adversary to the reptilians.)

Given his knowledge of magick, he can distinguish between thoughtforms and other types of astral entities, as he's implied as much in some of his videos.

>So what's with all the fancy fighting stuff that he keeps talking about?

It's actually kind of irritating to me that he has such an attitude (especially in a couple of his last few videos, where he goes over the top). However, it's the perfect personality for dispelling the fat LARPagan meme that /pol/ has. Perfect for our friends on 8/pol/. However, he does say that physical strength will manifest on the astral plane, for as above, so below. He's also seen a bunch of shit, and is trying to invoke a warrior mentality that's been lost since the Christcuck days.

Basically, the entities he concerns himself with isn't as interesting to me as the magickal knowledge he possesses (various energy pathways and how they effect rituals, knowledge of planetary spheres, planetary selves, knowledge of outside spirits, occult symbolisms, what you can do with magick, what things are bull shit, etc.).

>>3217

He's the only guy from the GOODS that posted videos and blog posts about magickal knowledge.

"Bear Heart" is the name given to him by Saint George the Dragon Slayer, main patron of the GOODS. He was so named as Thor oversaw his initiation into an ancient Germanic bear cult on the astral plane.

Essentially, Bear Heart's astral body was wounded so that new energies could be placed therein. After being bitten by a bear the size of a mountain, he was greeted by Thor and a large bear. Thor placed his hammer, Mjolnir, in BH's heart, and the bear placed its paw in his heart. Thus the name "Bear Heart."

>>3219

>trying to invoke a warrior mentality that's been lost since the Christcuck days

On that note, do any anons remember the berserker thread from the freedomboard days?

It had pretty interesting info about the nordic berserkers using magic to invoke a spirit of a wolf to win their battles and what rituals they used.

>>3219

>trying to invoke a warrior mentality that's been lost since the Christcuck days.

That is what all STS entitys have, why put that within yourself? STS entitys entire goal is to harvest energy to grow and advance. They need to adapt to their subject and practice/learn different methods of harvesting so they can finally get their target. By making yourself into something similar, but based in brute force, is that really a goal to have? STS and STO are two sides of the same coin.

And, by the way, what is a 'warrior mentality'? Is it willing to destroy an entity at all cost? Working one's self to a high standard to destroy all that oppose you?

Basically:

STS advance to become sneakier/more adaptable to harvesting a subject. So having a 'warriors mindset' may not help you at all. They just need to find a way around your stuff or open you up to harvesting, its what they are literal advancement is.

Please explain in exact terms what this 'warrior mindset' is. Personally it does not sound like a good idea. Spiritual advancement > loving to expend energy in any form of 'combat'.

Really, is it that difficult to avoid the trouble? Just make some highly advanced invisibility cloak or something and work a ton upon personal recognition. Realize what is you and stabilize the personality. By molding the personality to higher goals, you remove a lot of possibilities of being caught in an STS trap, much less avoiding them all together.

>>3225

>warrior mentality

> why put that within yourself

It seems useful to dispel sloth/apathy within the self as well as defend oneself.

I see a warrior mentality as the ability to rise above conflict/obstacles and keep going/keep stable.

Doesn't have to have brutality.

Many gods have warrior spirits. Norse pantheon, Mars/Ares (romangreek), Narasimha (hindu).

>>3231

>It seems useful to dispel sloth/apathy within the self as well as defend oneself.

>I see a warrior mentality as the ability to rise above conflict/obstacles and keep going/keep stable.

>Doesn't have to have brutality.

>Many gods have warrior spirits. Norse pantheon, Mars/Ares (romangreek), Narasimha (hindu).

That is a good perspective. Although, personally, I'd call that just 'spiritual advancement'. Overcoming negative traits in the personality and as well as advancing far enough to defend one's self is important.

>>2863

The book "Judaism's strange gods" explains pretty well why it is that jews actually don't even worship Elohim, rather their own race. Elohim is pretty much a scapegoat whose name they tout in vain to justify doing whatever they want. I'm sure Elohim will destroy them, since even Jesus said the jews are fucking evil kikes. While Christians are mind-controlled jew lovers and good goyim, they do have a much better picture of elohim than one would gather from observing jews. Despite the Christians' mudkike-esque conquest of Europe, it doesn't surprise me that Thor would get along with the actual Elohim.

All of that to say, no, Jews are fucking evil kikes and we and they shall never, ever have peace. We can probably get along with Elohim though, as long as his loyalists don't go full crypto-kike again and try to re-Muhammad us.

>>3225

What the tripfriend has said is correct and I just want to add that STO != pacifism necessarily.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with violence if it's absolutely necessary for an objectively STO cause and you are free from any negative emotions that would drive you to violence. Hurt enemies out of love for your allies, not out of hate. Being passive to protect yourself/your social standing when you should be acting to protect someone, is far more of an STS action that STO.

>>3251

I don't mean STO = Pacifism, but more like STO = Protection of one's self and not going overboard with exterminate such and such, which falls into the STS side. STS kill, maim, destroy because they get energy from it. Dominating the other being and feeling their defeat, fear, and whatever other emotions and/or energies they get. STO should/will protect themselves but only to what is needed. (EX: someone tries to stab you, you are free to stab them. Someone tries to shoot you, you are free to shoot them. But, even then, there is a fine line that can be crossed where protection of one's self changes into a destruction of another being. Destroying another being for personal reasons, EX: burn the jews, hang niggers, ect. Is an STS action, no matter the end goal. If you were being physically attacked by a gang of wild niggers, then by all means defend yourself. But if you have a right wing death squad or something similar going around lynching niggers and burning jews, you have an STS problem. This here is my concern with the Grand Order of the Draco Slayers. Also, by the way, getting attacked by negative entities is a part of spiritual development and must be learned. Having a group of AP-ing self-proclaimed 'heroes 'protectors', or you name it, destroying STS entities simply because of their alignment, they are behaving in an STS manner. They will feel good about 'ridding the world of "evil" ' and whatever else. The paths, STS and STO, is a balance. Everyone can not be STO and everyone can not be STS.Ying/Yang, as above so below as within so without, more harmony stuff ect. ect.

One more thing, about protecting things you 'love' from negative entities, make sure you use the exact definition of love. Which is: Complete acceptance. One important thing about being STO is that sometimes you should not protect other humans from danger, so that they may learn and advance. Guide them towards how they can protect themselves instead of doing it for them. But as well make sure that other entities can handle the extremes they are sometimes pushed into. EX: You see a innocent guy getting rushed by a gang of niggers for his money, you go and help him out. In that sort of situation you would help out.

I hope this makes sense.

>>3238

It's my guess here, but Elohim (God) may be different from Elohim Gibor (god of Geburah/Mars). Elohim can refer either to the god of the all, who is beyond knowing and truly transcendent–the All–or it could mean YHVH (Yahweh/Jehova), in which case Bear Heart has accused the local (culturally produced) godform many times of being a pedophile and wanting to bathe with underage boys. He's also supposedly heavily on the qliphothic side of things.

Pretty much everything should be on good terms with the true god of the All, though.

My own thoughts concerning the rituals

My thought is that the nexus of Pluto should have two colours to represent it. A deep purple inner sphere and a radioactive-green outer sphere.

Bear Heat commented that it is very much in Pluto's nature to be shady and not accept one thing in particular (and this includes his color(s)). It's also poetic that the planet Pluto sat at an intermediary between planet and dwarf planet for a while–"I'm a planet! Yes I am! Nope, no I'm not! Just a big hunk of ice and rock!"

I find that the GOODS MPR is too distracting and I can't focus on the nexuses as much because I'm busy looking at what one of my planetary selves is doing. Whatever other benefit are gained by visiting your planetary selves might also be obsolete given that the full banishing ritual merger encompasses this and does much more.

However, I think there may yet be room for the LBRP, even though the complete banishing ritual is said to be more powerful. Whereas the complete banishing ritual places wards around all planetary bodies along the middle pillar, it does not seem to utilize the powerful combination of physical body-astral body coordination that the LBRP uses when you form the pentagrams. Maybe it also has a differing effect on your surrounding space. Be sure to breathe in energy from the ends of the universe, send it down through your feet, then up from your feet and into the pentagram when you seal the name of Mars into the pentagrams.

Other interesting god(dess)forms

BH mentioned that Luna was the queen of the astral plane (I'm guessing he means our local astral plane), so that might be a very powerful name to draw upon too.

Perhaps Sol can be used too, as BH said that solar currents banish all manner of dark egregores.

Therefore, maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to place four extra pentagrams at the four corners (south-east, south-west, north-west, north-east), this time with the pentagrams in bright purple (for Luna) and a shimmering, gold radiance for Sol.

>>3255

Indeed, the LBRP uses the four guardians technique that is absent in the merged BR (banishing ritual).

Perhaps the pentagrams for Luna and Sol should be inverted, and thus you effectively banish both "up and down."

Does anyone know if this fucks up the energy dynamics at all? I don't see why more charged pentagrams would be bad, unless it causes clutter and confusion.

Vague information concerning the magician's circle given by BH

In one of his videos, BH says that one ought to fill your magickal circle with the energies of Saturn (Binah) and Neptune (Chokmah). However, he doesn't offer how one should do this. My guess would be a black and silver energies flowing into your circle from their respective nexuses.

I'm learning that nothing happens in magick without energy or astral correspondences. A circle, to me, doesn't just automatically delimit you from all spirits (as a lot of people seem to state it so simply). I'm trying to really tap into that power.

>>3253

>you cannot take action unless you yourself are directly attacked

That's a load of bullshit, we've got packs of apes in the streets murdering and raping, jewish proxies taking control of the media to degenerate humans and reverse their spiritual progress in order to make them docile, negative aliens using our realm as a loosh farm, and I'm supposed to just sit on my ass and wait till the problem starts affecting me specifically?

Protecting only yourself is not how this service to others business works.

>>3263

I agree completely with this.

>>3263

>jewish proxies taking control of the media to degenerate humans and reverse their spiritual progress

If they are weak and they are easily controllable by media then it's their own fault. No one forces them to watch TV, listen to the radio etc.

>negative aliens using our realm as a loosh farm

It's not the case that loosh is stolen from unwilling victims. Loosh is freely given away. People know exactly what they are doing when they waste their lives and pursue meaningless things in consumer society. If that's not the case and they are simply too stupid to know otherwise, then they deserve to be made loosh-batteries.

>and I'm supposed to just sit on my ass and wait till the problem starts affecting me specifically?

No, that's not it. The anon to whom you are replying only stated that helping others in this way is a STS activity not STO, as you get experience and power (thus empowering self) while others do not.

Mommy mommy, I wanna be a reptilian when I grow up! :^)

No, but seriously, negative aliens aren't the problem, people are.

>>3278

>negative aliens aren't the problem, people are.

Saying that it's the mundanes fault for letting their loosh farmed en mass isn't entirely honest.

People on /pol/ and /fringe/ have either passed a brutal trial by fire in the form of the mass brainwashing where their own independent thought triumphed or, which is likely to be the case with /fringe/ anons, we're older, more developed souls with far more past incarnations, some of those being wizardly, under our belt. Of course we'd have an easier time rejecting the control system than some human that's up until recently was incarnating as an intelligent animal.

What bothers me is that their actions unnaturally impede the process of their spiritual evolution as a whole and this has to be stopped. No arbitrary label will give me pause.

>>3278

>No, but seriously, negative aliens aren't the problem, people are.

If we adopt that mentality, then humanity wont exist in a millennia and people will be made into a Grey-like slave race.

Being an angsty edgelord is not an option.

>>3278

Humanity has been the subject of forced degeneration by outside influence for ages now. Saying that people are problem is like putting a baby in a gladiator arena, surrounded by lions, then said baby getting mauled to death and consequently blaming the baby for not being able to defend itself. Even though I understand where you are coming from, it isn't exactly a fair fight. Stating that its primarily on humanity is not STO imho

>No one forces them to watch TV, listen to the radio etc.

What about being barraged by seas of electromagnetic waves, radiowaves, and psychic spells and toxic though forms and what have you? Or food and water supplies being poisoned, our air getting polluted, our living environment getting scorched? Those things are very much forced upon us, aside from what we consume at best, though choices are limited.

>>negative aliens using our realm as a loosh farm

>It's not the case that loosh is stolen from unwilling victims.

That's not how prisons work.

I agree completely with >>3302

>>3302

>>3317

I understand what you mean guys, but I disagree. Helping others in this way won't really matter in the slightest.

If human spirit is indeed, by it's nature, free and powerful then it doesn't need any help and even after generations of enslavement humanity will eventually break it's chains, and if it's not, then it cannot be saved even if you try.

You can't save them because they don't want to be saved. You say that /fringe/ are old souls and mundanes were animals until recently, but you are wrong - they are animals still. Let them die, maybe their next incarnation won't be a complete failure.

Oh nvm that's too 'edgy'.

>>3316

>Being an angsty edgelord is not an option.

I am not. Why people have a habit of presuming so much about me, despite never even meeting me in person? Do you always throw insults at someone you don't agree with?

I detest the term "edgy" because it implies that someone who sees matters differently and doesn't fit into society's standards is ridiculed as someone not having anything worthy to say and whose opinions are equal to those of angsty teenager.

What's the difference between evocation and invocation. Not really initiated. I've done the LBRP described here >>2860

However I haven't done much else

[Admin note: thread link fixed]

>>3302

>People on /pol/

A small portion of them, the rest traded one brainwashing for another. I'm ok with natsoc and all that stuff even, but some of those people took a red coated bluepill and loved it.

>>3324

>Let them die, maybe their next incarnation won't be a complete failure.

You're confused. This isn't about "saving" ungrateful and undeserving subhumans, which most people are. It's about saving Humanity as a whole, which is on the verge of total enslavement.

You and I wont even have another incarnation if the world becomes a microchipped, goy-powered loosh farm.

>>3302

>>3317

>What about being barraged by seas of electromagnetic waves, radiowaves, and psychic spells and toxic thought forms

You may find these two videos interesting.

Apparently, the Illuminati are spraying corrupted (qliphothic) Mars energy in the Middle East in exacerbate the wars there, and corrupted Jupiter energy in the US to enhance our dysfunctional governments.

>>3371

>>3371

>>3372

Thank you for the videos.

Keeps me going.

>>3373

You nigger.

Reptilians control the Illuminati/Free Masons. The Free Masons control the rest of the Jews.

>tfw race-mixing is probably the reptilians' agenda, because only proud Aryans have both the intelligence (sorry, niggers), strength (sorry, Asians), and morality (sorry niggers and Asians) to resist. Not to mention our gods are perhaps the strongest. (Thor is stronger than Mars, and I'm pretty sure Mars is bretty stronk.)

Don't worry. I got the FNORD

>>3374

What are you upset about?

An interesting point about shapeshifting and changing your nature

BH stated once that shapeshifting your astral body into that of an animal brings about those characteristics. It isn't simply a matter of belief, either; there seems to be an astral correspondence that builds up.

For example, it's so real that, when BH shapeshifted into a werewolf once, he was overcome by the need to eat people. He then met an Amerindian on the astral who gave him some medicine to cure the illness.

Since your astral body already exists on the astral plane (whether or not you actually project), assuming the form of an animal in your minds eye, or perhaps even an elemental has very real (although perhaps subtle) effects on you. Obviously the effects will scale up drastically if you're astrally projected.

>>3375

I'm upset about losing muh heritage.

>>3377

>I'm upset about losing muh heritage.

Pointless.

>>3378

Your shitposting will not leak any loosh, Jew-lover.

>>3379

>implying

lol

I watched the videos you linked, plus the extra ones non-linked. Everything the guy talks about is anti-illuminati, but still doesn't EXACTLY bring you to a higher level of evolution. It is a bit… Negative. "kicks the fuck out the illuminati" ect. ect.

Honestly, STS/STO are two sides that are needed for evolution. STS to provide friction, STO to provide help. By focusing upon 'fighting' STS entities, you aren't going to be progressing anywhere. Its a trap upon for that higher level.

>>3324

>Let them die, maybe their next incarnation won't be a complete failure.

Sorry Indigo-san, I absolutely hate wastefulness as a concept and wasting incarnations of other people really grinds my gears. Sure it might be possible that a miracle happens and the majority of the masses wake up from their conditioning on their own and follow in our footsteps but at the moment the odds are stacked against them and I'd like to level the playing field. If I can't actively save them/place them on the path, I would at least remove the shadows cast by those who wish to hide it from them.

You might say that advanced people like us might learn whatever lessons we were meant to have learned in this incarnation and reincarnate in an alternate Earth that's more suited for our future development so it doesn't matter what state we leave this world in, but for me it just doesn't feel right. Call me an idealist moralfag if you so wish.

>>3345

I should have specified that only a portion of /pol/ is truly awakened. Quite a lot of them are still too immature and can't discern lies from truth at a glance like we can, falling for the fallacy that the opposite of a lie must be the absolute truth rather than searching somewhere in the middle and keeping an open mind.

>>3382

> rather than searching somewhere in the middle and keeping an open mind

Yeah, a lot of them call that fence sitting. There is hope for some of them though. The few /x/ and /fringe/ slanted threads on there that I have participated in have been pretty good. I wouldn't be surprised if it was other people from here in them as well.

>>3382

>and reincarnate in an alternate Earth that's more suited for our future development

I highly doubt there is any other Earth. I also highly doubt that Human beings can incarnate in anything but a Human body.

That means if we lose here, we're extinct. This is about individual and collective self-preservation.

>>3382

I think, if there are alternate earths that "as above so below, as below so above" would apply equally no? If there are multiple earths they would be kind of like mirrors. Really similar but with a few differences.

>>3385

>I also highly doubt that Human beings can incarnate in anything but a Human body.

I doubt that to the extreme

>>3369

Aren't those pathetic humans part of humanity as a whole?

>>3380

This kinda.

Also, STS doesn't necessarily imply that STS entity/person/whatever is malevolent, it simply implies that they focus on self rather than on others.

>You might say that advanced people like us might learn whatever lessons we were meant to have learned in this incarnation and reincarnate in an alternate Earth that's more suited for our future development so it doesn't matter what state we leave this world in, but for me it just doesn't feel right. Call me an idealist moralfag if you so wish.

I don't have a habit of insulting discussion partners :^)

I don't believe that your efforts will be fruitful and I just want to focus on myself. The weak can't do anything, the only thing that matters is power. Gaining more power is the only course of action that is sure to bare fruits.

If aligning myself with STS entities and their agenda (assuming there is an unified agenda for this world) will get me more power then so be it. If not then it has no use for me. On the other hand, it is important not to be caught up in STO/STS labels. There is no need to choose when one can be both.

>If I can't actively save them/place them on the path, I would at least remove the shadows cast by those who wish to hide it from them.

Have you ever thought that they might be simply not ready? The knowledge is out there, if they were ready it surely would have come. Especially in this day and age when esoteric teachings are no longer carefully hidden away.

Leonardo da Vinci wrote in his notebook:

"I awoke only to find that the rest of the world was still asleep."

Perhaps we did too. Why do you want to fend off the nightmares from the dreams of the yet asleep? I do not think that anyone can place someone on the path, nor it would be a wise thing to do. Perhaps living in a world such as this is a learning experience and taking it from them would do the opposite - impede their progress rather than accelerate it.

>>3385

What is your logic behind these claims?

>>3369

Aren't those pathetic humans part of humanity as a whole?

>>3380

This kinda.

Also, STS doesn't necessarily imply that STS entity/person/whatever is malevolent, it simply implies that they focus on self rather than on others.

>>3382

>You might say that advanced people like us might learn whatever lessons we were meant to have learned in this incarnation and reincarnate in an alternate Earth that's more suited for our future development so it doesn't matter what state we leave this world in, but for me it just doesn't feel right. Call me an idealist moralfag if you so wish.

I don't have a habit of insulting discussion partners :^)

I don't believe that your efforts will be fruitful and I just want to focus on myself. The weak can't do anything, the only thing that matters is power. Gaining more power is the only course of action that is sure to bare fruits.

If aligning myself with STS entities and their agenda (assuming there is an unified agenda for this world) will get me more power then so be it. If not then it has no use for me. On the other hand, it is important not to be caught up in STO/STS labels. There is no need to choose when one can be both.

>If I can't actively save them/place them on the path, I would at least remove the shadows cast by those who wish to hide it from them.

Have you ever thought that they might be simply not ready? The knowledge is out there, if they were ready it surely would have come. Especially in this day and age when esoteric teachings are no longer carefully hidden away.

Leonardo da Vinci wrote in his notebook:

"I awoke only to find that the rest of the world was still asleep."

Perhaps we did too. Why do you want to fend off the nightmares from the dreams of the yet asleep? I do not think that anyone can place someone on the path, nor it would be a wise thing to do. Perhaps living in a world such as this is a learning experience and taking it from them would do the opposite - impede their progress rather than accelerate it.

>>3385

What is your logic behind these claims?

>>3402

>What is your logic behind these claims?

I'm sure we can agree that the body is the physical manifestation of the Soul. Human beings are very specialized and evolved. That means that it requires a very specialized Soul to animate a human body.

Do you think mice and frogs have Chakras and Kundalini Serpents like we do? At best they have inferior equivalents.

>>3411

Chakras aren't part of the soul but of the energetic body. These are two different things.

>>3402

>Gaining more power is the only course of action that is sure to bare fruits.

Do you aim to amass power for the sake of power? Seems like an empty goal and a wasteful one. Having a grand goal to work towards is what may in the end bare fruit, which for me would be preparing the world for those who are soon to awaken.

>On the other hand, it is important not to be caught up in STO/STS labels. There is no need to choose when one can be both.

This much we can agree on.

>Perhaps living in a world such as this is a learning experience and taking it from them would do the opposite - impede their progress rather than accelerate it.

You might be right, there has never been an order which even attempted to elevate humanity and there are lessons to be learned from basic life that the serfs/mundanes live. All the same, it's not like my plan is to go around, passing copies of the IIH and telling every random faggot about magic. My first order of business is to stop the culture of degeneracy and tend to humanity's spiritual health by eliminating all of their negative aspects like greed, jealousy and hate. It would never even cover the entire population and won't happen in my lifetime, yet I feel that it's a decent goal to strive towards.

>>3385

What is our higher self though, can it really be defined as a human being?

Also why can't there be any other Earths? Like >>3387 said, there may be slight differences. There are virtually endless astral realms so a realm similar to our Earth isn't that far fetched. Alternatively one of the theories suggest, that an advanced soul will wait until our physical world reaches a point in time where our reincarnation is appropriate. In the event that everyone turns into a multicultural brown mass we'll probably end up waiting for however long it takes for whites to miraculously return. Even if it takes a cataclysmic event and everything starts from scratch.

>>3416

>semantics

We all know what a Soul is and the energetic body sounds a lot like it.

>>3422

These are not semantics.

>We all know what a Soul is

So what is it? Explain what do you mean by the term.

There are other bodies too. Why don't you assume that the astral body for example is the soul?

For me soul is a concept which cannot be grasped with dual mind, because it is itself non-dual. In Hindu scriptures it is called Atman. It doesn't have a shape nor any characteristics, it's formless. It is the true self. It's something you would find if you took away everything from yourself (including your physical body, chakras and energetic body, astral body, your mind and everything you can perceive about yourself) because it is the very essence, the core.

There is nothing standing in a way of people reincarnating in animal bodies.

>>3401

I ask for a deletion of this post. I mis clicked and deleted the file and now I don't have a password.

>>3423

>So what is it? Explain what do you mean by the term.

The spiritual body or the animating spirit. The astral body is logically then an extension of the Soul.

>For me soul is a concept which cannot be grasped with dual mind, because it is itself non-dual.

You've drank the hippy dippy, feel-good cool-aid, m8.

The word Soul isn't defined by some obscure atkinson-tier definition. It has always meant "the animating Spirit" in just about every language. The word is usually connected with the word for breath. It's literally no different than the word Spirit. Everything has a spirit. This isn't even esoteric.

Hence, every aspect of your non-physical self is the part of your Soul/Spirit using the most common definition.

>>3425

>You've drank the hippy dippy, feel-good cool-aid, m8.

Why? Do believing that ultimate reality is non dual is "hippy-dippy" and "feel good"?

Also, If you want to have a discussion then please use actual arguments and not some verbal gibberish giving no actual substance.

>The word Soul isn't defined by some obscure atkinson-tier definition.

Very good, I dislike works of Atkinson.

>It has always meant "the animating Spirit" in just about every language. The word is usually connected with the word for breath. It's literally no different than the word Spirit. Everything has a spirit.

Yes, I'm aware of that. Where are you even coming from? Does anything I write contradict this or are you just arguing about semantics for the sake of it?

>Hence, every aspect of your non-physical self is the part of your Soul/Spirit using the most common definition.

Physical body is also a part of the spirit, is it not? I'd call various bodies instruments of the soul, or perhaps vessels, but not the soul itself.

>>3419

>Do you aim to amass power for the sake of power? Seems like an empty goal and a wasteful one.

Sadly, I don't have a better one, or maybe it hasn't yet presented itself to me.

>>3430

>Does anything I write contradict this or are you just arguing about semantics for the sake of it?

My problem is that you act like the Soul is some abstract, almost intangible concept and is separate from the "energetic body". The Soul is the energetic body. Likewise the Atman is part of the Soul.

The physical body is physical and therefore not the Soul. It is its manifestation in a denser form. So if animal bodies and human bodies are so different, how can we have similar enough Souls to incarnate in each others forms?

>>3419

>Even if it takes a cataclysmic event and everything starts from scratch

I'm pretty sure once the white race is dead, there is no way of getting it back. Humanity as a whole will become like the greys and it's GG for everyone. So the only thing that matters is preventing that.

>>3432

After all, it comes down to semantics I guess.

For you, as far as I can tell, soul is anything non-physical which constitutes one's self. Various bodies (excluding physical) + Atman.

For me, soul is Atman only and the bodies are just instruments which are cast down after death.

From my point of view, when you die, your physical body decays, your astral body decays and only Atman is left and can reincarnate into an animal body (for example). From your point of view energetic body is immortal.

Also, what do you mean by "energetic body"? Everything is energy, physical and astral bodies also.

For me astral body and physical body are almost the same thing, except for the fact that one operates in the physical realm and the other in astral. As you wrote yourself:

>It is its manifestation in a denser form

We know that physical body is impermanent and decays, so why would astral body do otherwise? I don't want to sound like an Atkinson fan, but "as above, so below".

>>3432

>>3435

Hey, you two. You may find Bear Heart's contentions about the soul to be an interesting matter. It's of his opinion that reptilians are changing our DNA with the intent to make human reincarnation impossible. We may infer from this that souls are (according to BH) indeed specialized.

He also contends that we were aided by trans-dimensional beings in our spiritual evolution, which probably filtered down unto the physical plane.

As for me, I have very little clue what actually goes on. It seems reasonable that animal souls should be able to adapt over time to become a new species. I still wonder where souls come from in the event that no souls from the astral plane are willing or able to fill the animal's consciousness–is a new soul then created? Is it aborted?

I'd like to think that shitskins are metaphysically incapable as incarnating as whites. Then again, I do see mixed race abominations running around, and obviously a soul had to fill that slot. So was it black or white? And then with quadroons and so on…

>>3436

Soul (as I understand the term) can't be black nor white, as well as there are no female or male souls. Soul, as the very essence of every being, is beyond all characteristics.

>>3435

>when you die, your physical body decays, your astral body decays and only Atman is left

Semantics aside, this is where we actually disagree. In my observation, energetic bodies/Souls/spirits stay with people throughout all their lifetimes.

That's how people advance spiritually one life to the next. They strengthen their auras, their chakras, etc. Everything is imprinted into your Soul and manifests when it gains enough strength. So the Atman is unchanging while the rest of your Soul grows every lifetime.

>We know that physical body is impermanent and decays, so why would astral body do otherwise?

The goal of life, as I see it, is to perfect your body/Soul so that it doesn't decay and to free yourself from the Samsaric cycles. Yogis, Taoists, Alchemists all were on a quest for immortality.

>>3443

>In my observation, energetic bodies/Souls/spirits stay with people throughout all their lifetimes.

That's interesting, as I've read that tulpas (and perhaps servitors too?) likely have their own energetic bodies, but are nonetheless parts of your own soul. Maybe "soul" can refer to the entirety of your mental being; both conscious and unconscious. Thus tulpas are conscious beings that arose from the depths of your unconscious, but are still nonetheless swimming in the ocean of the same unconscious mind that you do. I've experience with the matter, and I know that I can only subtly sense the emotions of foreign spirits, but I feel the emotions of my tulpas for some reason /fringe/ detests this practice with full intensity–as if I were experiencing it myself.

>>3435

>your astral body decays and only Atman is left [to reincarnate]

That's strange, as we see many spirits out there, like George Washington and so on who obviously carry their "soul" into the astral plane in the vessel of an astral body.

Considering we all have planetary bodies, it may be that when you die, these planetary bodies merge with you to create one astral body different from the one before.

>>3387

>>3419

BH contents that there are different physical dimensions (and I from a video where BH channeled Saturn himself, there are separate timelines and astral planes), and that the MK Ultra project was meant to cause such severe trauma that it would force the consciousness of the individual to collect into their astral body (to escape the pain or discomfort), and with this they could somehow separate the soul entirely from the body so that the individual would either wake up in a new dimension, or stay permanently in the astral plane.

>>3436

>I'd like to think that shitskins are metaphysically incapable as incarnating as whites

My understanding of this is that "lower races" can reincarnate as Aryan races if they have lived in the Aryan ways - that is , from my experience, the life-positive creator nature.

It is comparable to the Karma and caste system of the Hindus. So if they embrace their animalistic lower self their whole life, they might be reborn as animal - it is not really up to them to decide whether they are subhumans or not though. The higher self prepares these life experiences on purpose - spiritual refinement that is.

This also means that Aryan people who act degenerate in their life aren't ready for their position yet and probably will reincarnate lower.

Concerning the mixed races - there is obviously a huge discrepancy arising when Aryan and lower races breed. The mixed offspring will have a hard time to adapt to one race and it's spiritual implications. "Souls filling these slots" are probably inbetween these spiritual evolutionary states and their life is a test to determine whether they are ready to live the Aryan spirituality or whether they fall back into the lower behaviors.

People shall not be judged by their skin color but by their lifestyle and virtue. You have to earn your Aryan life.

The bigger problem for mixed people is finding a biologically matching breeding partner - it's not an issue in modern times because people forgot how to choose a matching partner due to the alienation from nature.

Race mixing with huge racial differences was rather uncommon in the times before long distance transport became a thing and the few mixed people wouldn't differ much from their human environment. It was rather local race mixing.

Nowadays Swedes hook up with Africans, because races don't need to pass land on foot anymore and don't diffuse racially through the traveling.

I did the Middle Pillar Ritual last week and this happend:

Got it real hard to visualize me like a really big planetary body but i went though it.

Also when i was getting swallowed into the other astral worlds i let the images came at me.

In Uranus i saw a tall man with some old napoleonic suit, white hair and glooming eyes.

The world was like the the Atlantis civilization.

In Pluto i saw a really fucking big eagle with brown, purple and light green colours.

The world was full of mountains with spikes and everything dark and glooming.

In Sol i saw an angel with big wings, curly hair, spear and a shield.

The world was like Anor Londo in DarkSouls and full of classical sculptures.

In Luna i saw a man with really long , messy hair, glooming in black light, he treated me like i was his brother with a lot of banter but friendly.

The world was actually the astral world.

Later that day i went to sleep and had one of the most intense dreams i've ever had.

Could fly and shoot energy blasts with my hands like Goku. But i was attacked by some villain and i had to run away because i knew he was stronger than me.

How did i do? It is normal? Anyone has done it?

>>3454

The Hindu system of incarnation, like their religion as a whole, was probably corrupted both by religious fervour and (especially) by their multiracial society; the ideals of the darker races may have played their part in what the peoples believed–and isn't difficult to see a bunch of darkies wanting to be beautiful, pale aristocracy. Well, pale by their standards, I guess.

Since "the walls of heaven are built with hands of flesh," and we know damn well that identical twins share much of their personalities in common, I'd say that after every incarnation, your soul is imprinted with the attributes of your last physical vessel.

It seems quite apparent that, due to spirits of deceased persons hanging around for a long time in the astral, like Saint George or George Washington, that you indeed seem to be able to choose at least when you incarnate. The existence of this choice might suggest that a soul has a breadth of infant bodies to choose from. Given that niggers are substantially different from Aryans, we may posit that they'd have increased difficulty taking over an Aryan body. If our DNA is different, our souls are different.

One wonders whether there are protective ancestral spirits that prevent a nog soul from attaining an Aryan body.

As to foreign intervention

I've also heard that Saturn is master of the incarnation cycle. So one wonders how much of incarnation is automatic. (Are insect spirits simply sucked into a nearby infant insect mind, or are they put there by higher forces?)

>>3258

I thought about this for a while, and this is my conclusion: the circle part for the planetary symbol for earth should be black, as it is the Saturnine circle. The cross, or plus sign section should be silver, as the nexus for Neptune also radiates well for the cross of the zodiac. BH even mentioned the cross section of the symbol as representing all planetary influences acting upon you. Since the physical Neptune planet is the highest (consistently) orbiting from the sun, it makes since that it would have this honor.

Any thoughts on how to funnel the energies into the magician's circle? What stances/god-poses would be good for inducing the feelings associated with Saturn and Neptune?

>>3467

Fucking learn how to magick, role player

>>3502

calling up spirits with silly colors is the funiest thing I've seen

>>3502

>>3503

Letting energy flow from chakras/sephiroth into objects (sometimes your own body) is important in magick. And those energy points have colours associated with them.

Why was that so difficult for you to understand?

>>3502

>>3503

>my magick is the only way of magick, everything else is stupid

Boy aren't you the magician around here.

>>3371

>>3372

>technology that is aware of astral planes

Holy shit, imagine the practical applications of that.

You could build a supercomputer on astral planes and connect it to the physical internet. We could skip quantum computing altogether and start building astral computers.

Hell, you could connect any astral entity to physical hardware. Forget about software-based artificial intelligence, let's build a computer with an actual soul.

>>3533

>have technology that could solve most of the world's problems and create paradise on Earth

>use it to turn people into fags

The more you think about it, the funnier it gets.

>>3523

>Letting energy flow from chakras/sephiroth

Kabbalistic jew orbs aren't energy centers. They help represent reality, but they don't correspond to the actual soul.

>>3533

>Hell, you could connect any astral entity to physical hardware.

I'm pretty sure that's what grays are. Aliens with a hive-mind chip in their heads.

>>3540

How to do it though?

How is the human physical body connected to the nonphysical bodies? There has to be some physical part inside the brain or elsewhere that allows it.

Ok, let's stop derailing this thread, please.

>>3597

>substance dualism

>>3533

>build a computer with an actual soul

But anon, if it's a properly built computer it has a spirit already. Personal computers with a personalized set up all has.

To get it done right, I always perform something of a simple ritual when installing the hardware and starting up, lighting candles and keeping my mind calm etc.

I also keep all my CDs and DVDs in a metal box with some spell cards including a "start-up goblin" just for the feel of it.

It's really useful, when I tried installing more RAM the computer wouldn't boot. I asked the spirit what was wrong and she replied

>the memory you connected isn't compatible, you will have to remove it again

I did and it worked again, took another look and realized it really wasn't compatible.

>>4131

Has anybody actually studied how technology relates to the astral? I know Magical Use of Thought Forms goes over it briefly, but I think the only reason it works in that book is because you create thoughtforms through creating things, not specifically just online.

Has anybody done any experiments with affecting the internet through astral work only?

also

>spell cards

aye, so I looked through some of the rituals, and it says to invoke yahweh, but isn't he the christcuck god? or am I getting something completely wrong?

>>4145

I'm also wondering about the black sun. I though it was a good symbol but Bear Heart says it's the source of evil. It never did make me feel cozy like the swastika but most pro-Reich esoterics have made the black sun out to be good.

Spirit reincarnates into the material according to which it vibrates, if your lineage dies out your collective consciousness is stuck in shit to the neck.

If a Virgin takes sperm from a man, she assimilates it into her body and brain, changing her vibration, frequency patterns, the man's ancestors has first dibs on reincarnation in those kids.

To build a computer of Soul, animating matter, thought and emotion, you need something to channel it to the material.

You can skip the part of building the astral version because it's created in the process of assembling a demiurge tech machine that channels soul.

Thus is AI tech and supposedly forbidden by the ones who came here, that's why they made us, to jump loopholes in the law.

>>5185

Take my words to heart or regret it, cuck.

Daily reminder that if the mother of your child isn't a Virgin and has taken another man's seed the child is not of your spirit.

>>5180

>If a Virgin takes sperm from a man, she assimilates it into her body and brain, changing her vibration, frequency patterns, the man's ancestors has first dibs on reincarnation in those kids.

How and why?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Women+store+dna+from+previous+sexual+partners

>>5201

From the study:

>Besides known pregnancies, other possible sources of male microchimerism include unrecognized spontaneous abortion, vanished male twin, an older brother transferred by the maternal circulation, or sexual intercourse.

Holy fuck, what do you know - you make a baby and it's "spiritually" her older brother. Fuck!

Also, I don't know how do you jump from the study that suggests that trace amounts of semen may be assimilated to

>changing her vibration, frequency patterns, the man's ancestors has first dibs on reincarnation in those kids

First of all, the concept that the ancestor is more likely to reincarnate in his bloodline than in some other is alien to me, care to elaborate on it? What about those souls whose bloodlines ended? Do they automatically reach nirvana?

>the child is not of your spirit

Care to elaborate on that? Again, not sure what you mean by that, how exactly anyone can be "of your spirit"? Maybe it's just semantics or I have a different view of spirit/soul stuff.

In my view you give too much power to the physical. If trace amounts of semen were to influence energy body to such an extent then we'd all be just prisoners of this flesh. But maybe we are.

I asked you how and why, because I thought that you may post the studies on which you based your post, you wrote

>she assimilates it into her body and brain

Could you link the study you read that shows that it is indeed assimilated into brain? I haven't found it.

Next

>Results ranged from the DNA equivalent of 0 to 20.7 male cells per 100000 female cells. Women were categorized into 4 groups according to pregnancy history. Group A had only daughters (n = 26), Group B had spontaneous abortions (n = 23), Group C had induced abortions (n = 23), and Group D were nulligravid (n = 48). Male microchimerism prevalence was significantly greater in Group C than other groups (8%, 22%, 57%, 10%, respectively).

These are indeed trace amounts, and not every woman from each group had them, so it certainly isn't certain that they all assimilate it.

And even if you do, as far as I'm aware there are no studies done on their vibration rate and frequency or whatever I guess.

This thread has been completely derailed.

>>4145

You looked up the wrong versions of those rituals. If you use those, you will fall under an insidious trap. Here's an example of what happens when you use the wrong LBRP used by most mason if not all current mason lodges, illuminati, etc:

> In this way this befouled ritual can act as an entangling snare. The ritual even it this weakest of forms gives “some” sense of protection although it is more like a labeling which says “hands off” this human belongs to some of the most vampiric and truly evil intelligences in the form of Hebrew deities which are used to “seal” the pentagrams which are supposed to protect you but only place their mark on you, like you where a lunch box with powerful names on it saying to most other spirits this is mine to eat not yours. In return for spreading this magical disease if the form of this LBRP the Hebrew deities allow high level members of the illuminati the energetic leftovers from their feedings.

http://goodsbackup.blogspot.co.uk/2016/01/understanding-lesser-banishing-ritual.html

Hypothetically, when masonic lodges were subverted and their offshoots like the illuminati came into being, that's when the switch in deities occurred. Therefore, the jews infiltrated, subverted, and took over those secret societies. Hence the change to using the G on the mason symbol.

>>4146

There's more to the black sun than what people on /pol/ commonly believe. I can't remember the explanation given for it, but it's not exactly what they believe.

>>5225

>What about those souls whose bloodlines ended? Do they automatically reach nirvana?

When a bloodline ends and they still choose to reincarnate, they find a body that closely matches their previous life. This is best accomplished through a particular racial identity, e.g. you wouldn't expect a nordic to reincarnate as an spaniard.

>>5226

It was inevitable. Michrochimerism is news, even to the mundane.

>>5236

>you wouldn't expect a nordic to reincarnate as an spaniard

I don't hold any expectations in regards to this.

For me it's not the matter of bloodlines but experiences needed for a soul to progress.

>>5225

You're asking of me a very long post.

I might write it all out in a future thread with how to counter blackedTM but for now you'll have to do with what has been said.

I do however point you towards scripture, not just biblical, virginity is treasured in most cultures with knowledge passed down from the time when gods walked the earth.

And about automatically reaching nirvana… I don't think so.

Like anon above said, first option is not available, most compatible reincarnation, second best could happen if none else from that lineages wants to experience that life.

If a collective consciousness has no material which it evolved alongside with to reincarnate into it will wither away or roam to feed off others like leeches.

>>5240

>You're asking of me a very long post.

I'm so fucking sorry mate. I forgot that asking people to actually support their opinions with anything is too much to ask.

also

>directing me to scientific research

>directing me to scriptures when it turns out the research he haven't even read isn't so supportive of his opinions after all

>biblical

A whole lot of bullshit, rewritten by greedy priests influenced by malevolent yhvh entity. The only Christianity I even remotely respect is the first, gnostic one. Nag Hammadi library and all that stuff, but I'm not going to read all those scrolls just for the sake of this discussion. Anyway, I guess you haven't read them either, so we are both clueless how real Christians portrayed it.

>virginity is treasured in most cultures

Give some examples please. Obviously, on the surface it is, in the main religions, but all main religions are exoteric and they serve little other purpose than enslavement of human spirit. Anyway, why are the scriptures any authority on such matters?

Moreover, most of the original cults and religions of mankind were lunar and not solar. The place of females in society was different.

>>5252

>I forgot that asking people to actually support their opinions with anything is too much to ask.

>Expecting to see valid sources in arguments on reincarnation and the metaphysics of sex

Cmon nigga, you and him can probably source an equal amount of well written blogs and such that'll "disprove" the opponent's theories but wasting effort on that is absolutely meaningless.

It'd be like arguing with a neighbor, except you're separated by a sound proof wall and all you know is you disagree with one another on some topic. Both of you will scream out your own sources and facts and both of you will likely walk away slightly agitated and with a sense of superiority over your unenlightened opponent.

That said the "studies" in that google search are mostly sourced from MGTOW tier sites or cover the reproduction of flies.

Sperm drilling its way into the brain or not, sexual encounters do leave an emotional mark on women, unsurprisingly making virgins ideal mates for serious relationships.

>>5263

No no no friend, that anon was referring to a scientific study, double blind and all that good stuff.

In the case of this topic, it is possible because we are not talking about some crazy magical ideas which indeed cannot be proven, but about sperm, DNA and vaginas, stuff that can be measured via physical means.

If we are talking about something it's only common courtesy to either provide the logic behind the claim or support it with some evidence. Else what point of discussing at all when we can only approach others opinions with either believe or disbelief and no conclusion can be reached?

>That said the "studies" in that google search are mostly sourced from MGTOW tier sites or cover the reproduction of flies.

I even quoted parts of the study and it wasn't about flies

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16084184/

>>5270

Woops, guess my google foo is too weak to find the legit study you were all talking about, pardon me then. Hate how the always do the "more research needed, please give us more funding" at the end of every study they publish.

>>2882

Someone should ask him to do a list of recommended books and a list corrupted books.

>>2861

why does this stupid faggot just ramble on and on without giving any good info?

can someone give me some tl'dr videos? this is fucking shit

>>5427

just stop posting

>>5428

>15 minutes long

>fucking jesus

>fucking lurminarty rapists

>fucking jesus cross rapists

>muh beautiful traditions (ignoring child sacrifice in those cultures)

>fucking jesus fucking lurminarti fucking rapists

15 minutes and that's all he says. This is the 5th video and he's only provided about 30 seconds of somewhat useful information, and that's being very generous.

If I didn't know any better, I would think he's getting paid to waste the time of those seeking the truth

also, this sounds like Mark Passio, no? what a fucking douche

>>5446

>I wish I could disagree

thanks. I know the truth is out there, but this isn't it. I know its out there, and I know its bad; can you give me any guidance on what direction to move in?

>>5461

Yeah, I personally don't like Bearheart too, but whatever floats your boat and all that stuff.

>>5467

Yeah, I guess once a person gets to a certain point they have their own ideology and they either fuck off and don't write/share their distilled info or they ramble on like this.

Khan's threads seem to be good?

>>5467

>>5466

nah, he's mixing the symbols all up and not getting down to brass tax. Nothing he says is instrumentally useful in any way, nor is it useful in any theoretical sense, or in the sense of providing a useful taxonomy. This information exists, he's just not providing it.

All that other stuff is very important, especially once you understand some of the "tricks" because you need to maintain control of yourself in the midst of stressful situations. Many of these "magick" techniques are simple psychology, usually bent on catching you off guard and stimulating your emotions and therefore psychically attacking you.

>>5469

I often regret not keeping a journal on my own progress. And I don't just mean the proverbial road that one might call /fringe/ but insights in general, keeping track of when certain insights were obtained and from where, which things caused the connections to certain insights. I feel that a lot of those moments, those epiphanies are catalysts that could teach lots of people and speed up progress.

>>5491

You're absolutely correct.

A psychic told me that as I heal myself I should be writing my progress to use it to help others.

Thanks for the reminder.

>>5469

>Khan's threads seem to be good?

link?

>>3162

>Free love damages this area

Explain?

>>3162

>aura from naval

The aura is generated by the heart, sol supplies it emotions to flare up with thoughts.

This "Bearheart" cunt some of you keep propagating is an awful alchemist.

>>5652

How is "free love" neither "free" nor "love"? Could you explain a bit more, while still minding my chosen flag? :)

>>5685

If you're familiar with the concept, you should be able to figure it out yourself. That's the most important part of being a neophyte, learning through self reasoning.

>>5685

Don't listen to him Neo, fuck bitches and shiet, it doesn't destroy any area unless her pussy counts :^)

>>5685

>be retard normie

>fuck around, get into relationships frivolously

>hoes drain your heart energy as the normie gives away his love to every bitch he meets

>normie doesn't realize that relationships and sex is a pretty big energy drain

>when it's too late he becomes jaded, his heart center fucked up and incapable of loving anyone anymore

>the women on the other hand have gotten off with his heart energy as they're akin to energy vampires in that situation

Every action has consequences, some may not be immediately apparent.

>>5722

What's the alternative? Celibacy? Marriage?

"Free love" sounds like the best way to experience sexuality. Marriage always ends in putting up with your partner instead of enjoying their company, and celibacy isn't necessary. Free love means you spend time with who you want, when you want.

I suppose you would need to heal yourself if you got really into it.

>>5727

Cmon man, I'm just a wizard on an anonymous esoteric board, I can't tell you how to live your life. I've decided to marry and pour all of my love into my children, raising them to the best of my ability.

Don't recall where I read it but apparently desired children born of stable and loving parents turn out better. Most important thing that matters for me is that I teach them the esoteric sciences to the best of my ability.

I've always though of the free love, your definition anyway, as sacrificing long lasting happiness for a string of momentary pleasures. My parents have been married for ages and I honestly can't imagine how shit life would be when you're old and alone. I suppose relationships of parents is how everyone determines what style of relationship building they'll chose to follow.

>>5808

>I've always though of the free love, your definition anyway, as sacrificing long lasting happiness for a string of momentary pleasures.

IMHO there is no need to sacrifice anything. You can fuck around, if you and your partners feel fine with it, and then you may find a person with whom you'd want to settle down. There is no need to trade anything for anything else when you can have all of it for yourself.

>>5814

I don't want to be my lifelong partner's 1xth and I'll be holding myself to the same standard.

>>5236

>>4146

I was under the impression that the black sun had two major interpretations:

As the second focal point of an elliptical orbit, thereby serving as a hidden source of order.

And as a symbol of regenerative destruction, being associated with the alchemical principle of nigredo (which seems to be /pol/'s preferred interpretation).

>>5863

Sure, whatever suits you mate.

>>6018

>tfw my parents divorced the moment I turned 18 because I was the only thing keeping them together

sad pepe

What is STS and STO?

>>6366

http://montalk.net/about/212/glossary#STO

Afaik, they originate from Montalk's work. Keep in mind that not everyone agrees with the specifics of the definition and how it is carried out in the practical sense. All that matters is that they essentially state "service to others" and "service to self".

I have this question I've been thinking about it quite a lot.

>I've heard that there's a lot of misinformation out there.

>>3167

>God of Geburah

In most of LBPR how-to's we are recommended to place Geburah on the Right and Gedulah - on the left. Isn't that wrong?

Look at the Tree: Geburah appears on the left column. it is wrath of God. 'Sinister'. Left.

shouldn't it be - "Atah, Malkuth, Ve Gedulah, Ve Geburah". so we would touch right shoulder with a "Gedulah" as we imagine ourselves to become the tree/universal man.

>>7358

Nice opinion, my dude. Care to back it up?

Doing LBPR with gedulah on the right and gedulah on the left.

Can anyone comment it?

>>7356

>>7356

>>7356

>>7442

I respect your opinion as an anonymous

but could you explain what you mean by that? and adress my question: >>7420

AYYY, Ya'll motherfuckers keeping your silence. but now I know WHY

because the standard lbpr is qlippothic and backwards . remain at where you are I'm calling the police of Agharti

deus num existe criançada kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

bump

Dragons are the symbols of untameable strength, vitality and will. For a healthy mind the natural subject of sexual arousal is an entity that shows signs of physiological superiority. Therefore it is only natural to want to lay the dragon instead of slaying it. Abandon your immature thoughts of purity, dear anon, and accept the dragon.

>>8183

Also dragons and generally serpent-like/draconian creatures are very popular and considered benevolent in various cultures. Dragons are cool.

>>8183

>>8190

It's possible that there are other dragon-like creatures that are not reptilians. I'm very torn, as dragons have always been cool, but reptilians are fucking terrible.

I was sent from an 8ch/pol/ thread a couple days ago and finally got to looking at this.

I've read the first half but this is too far beyond me to understand. First, I've missed the point of this order and their magick? Why not develop the will more instead of magical defense? I have more basic questions on magick which I put in the questions thread to not off topic this thread too much. I earnestly mean no disrespect either. Appreciate the knowledge, albeit maybe too much for me.

What are these vampires?

>>9722

You're definitely going to want to focus on magickal defense first, because being fed off of by parasites or even being possessed is not fun business.

Also, developing power and investing it in defense still developing power and getting used to rituals.

Anyway, the will stuff can be overemphasized in certain fields of practice, like the Golden Dawn, who have you stare at a point for long periods, which is actually detrimental; see >>3152

>I mean no disrespect

Just relax and don't be afraid to shitpost sometimes (which you totally didn't).

>what are these vampires

Things like foreign egregores, shadow people, etc., many spirits will try to feed off of your energies. Fear is the most dense of these emotions, so they'll try to do things that illicit fear. Hebrew gods will also try to do this by lying to you about eternal torture in hell, which doesn't exist because spirits can be slain; your spirit is not immortal.

>>3253

You are correct at least in terms of the vantage point of the absolute. We are essentially not getting to the root of the problem here, but I must also emphasize that we don't have all the time in the world to just sit around and figure it all out as the world burns all around us along with a rabid group of entities attempting to enslave humanity spiritually. It's hard to see how much their magic affects you because you're so used to it's spells, but it is holding you back from being everything you can possibly be. We can sit and do nothing and pontificate many things about what happens after death, or what density we will transition to and how maybe all this illuminati magic is worth even fighting, but I have personally seen how it affects me and I have no choise but to fight back. Is this STS? Yes to some degree it definitely is, and that is quite alright because humanity and this realm is general is an STS realm. Instead of ignoring our natural state, we can use it as a tool to strengthen our personal will and gradually move towards STO/STA. There are virtues and lessons to be extolled from both the hands as long as worked in balance and not going too far on either side. Eventually, you learn how blended and unified the two sides are down the middle.

>>3380

>Its a trap upon for that higher level.

We're nowhere close to that "higher level." Perhaps when we get there, we'll learn that lesson.

I get your mentality because to some degree I'm still kind of there, but I'm starting to realize you can't just ignore some things in exchange for some high ideals. People need to stop looking at physical reality and the issues infesting this planet as some grand illusion or movie playing in your head that you're personally directing the story-line for. Shadow work on scales that truly transcend the framework of this reality, especially for US here in 2016 would take decades, if not an entire lifetime and you're lying to yourself if you think turning the other cheek will solve it for you. Intellectually understanding "love conquers all" is light years away from actually, truly understanding this apparent "fact" within the core of your being, and allowing yourself to be mentally and spiritually fucked with the whole time until you figure that out is not cool.

It's literally like criticizing someone for seeking revenge and defending yourself from people who are raping you.

Well Uncle Bearheart got me into embedded clip and it's a beautiful song :)

I know it's hard to believe everything he says, and I'm still skeptical about much of the information myself, but I can't help but detect a genuine transmission from an experienced and good hearted person. I got his books on smashwords… 'crossroads of the gods: way of the wiccan king' and 'hero's journey.' Both are great books to check out.

so what happened to the dragon slayers? the youtube channel has been inactive for like 11 months. and I just found out about it…

>>2863

I JUST NOTICED SOMETHING

After speaking with the GOODS through their FaceBook page and learning that Heimdall is actually Archangel Michael (with Algiz being his rune), it makes perfect sense:

Heimdall is described as being brilliantly pale and shining. Almost as if he were a being made of pure light, like an angel.

Further (sorry if I posted this already), Bear Heart says that, when standing in a magickal circle, you literally become god in that small space (on a higher plane of reality, I imagine), and as such, you may call upon the angels who well help carry out functions and, believe it or not, obey, if it is within their domain to do so. It feels really odd saying that of a being as powerful as Heimdall, but I believe angels were put there to help. Bear Heart attests that angels derive no greater pleasure than to perform the tasks they were designed for. Heimdall may be of crucial help to us in our banishing rituals, especially now that we know his rune and character.

Being an angel, it's probably easy to contact him. as he is one with the will of prime creator, and can probably have access to untold information and perform many things simultaneously.

>>10023

They actually uploaded two new videos about a couple months ago.

The GOODs disbanded and then got back together, so I hear. BH left the GOODs at that time (which was about a few years ago), and I don't know if it's even possible to get a hold of him right now.

Maybe in the future, thanks to all the occult stuff happening on /pol/ (BH is probably a white nationalist) and leaking of occult content to the general public, I wouldn't be too surprised if he started making videos again in the future.

>>10129

>BH is probably a white nationalist

His godfather and spiritual mentor was Cuban Houngan Asogwe.

He is currently focusing on Palo Mayombe. (palomayombepnw.blogspot.com)

He speaks out against the Nazi's and their practices.

He has mentioned several times that the white race got fucked over first by the draconian threat, causing them to fuck over all the other races.

I've watched many of the G.O.O.D.S. and BH's videos.

Essentially, he wants unification without putrefaction, where all races are firmly rooted into their ancestral/pagan traditions, and is unified in it's diversity.

He also mentions several times that humanity in general is connected to subtle universal archetypes created by the prime creator, and nobody has any lesser or greater access to these.

I can see how his videos can be interpreted as WN because I think he is trying to help people of european descent get back to their pagan roots especially, but the crux of his teachings is universal and can be applied by anyone. The guy is definitely not a WN, if I had to bet money on it.

>>10128

>angels

>being helpful in anyway

You srs?

>>10130

I personally figured that he was just saying things like "Hitler was bad and set up by Ashkenazi Jews" to avoid being called a Nazi while subtly dropping red pills. I mean, I have to do this a lot: lie about something and make up a minor story to give plausible deniability in order to speak my mind and give my opinion on certain topics to normies. If he outright said he was a white nationalist or agreed with certain principles that are so unique to it as to destroy plausible deniability, then people would stop listening to him.

And yes, I find the fact that he has ties with Haitian voodoo magick particularly distasteful, but what can I do?

Some nationalists, like Varg Vikernes, feels sorrow that the Amerindian tribes lost their folkish ways, and I must say that I agree. I think he's simply trying to get away with as much as he can.

I usually detest intellectual dishonesty, but it's a very reasonable platform if you're under duress.

>that link

Thank you so much. I had no idea as to his whereabouts. I need to look into this.

>>10165

Define what you mean by angel. I'm going by BH's definition, and not "angels are for Jews, demons are for goyim" that you get from, say, angelfire.com

>>10168

It is kind of hard to figure out exactly where he stands with certain controversial issues like that. Perhaps its for the best.

He has mentioned that he holds no ill will towards the jewish people in large, just jewish theology and the use of hebrew names in magic which he feels are archonic energies for the most part. However, he does use phrases like 'Hook-nosed, Zionist, Khzar/Ashkenazi scum' etc., on his G.O.O.D.S. blog. Perhaps he struggles with this issue on a moral level, who knows. I know I definitely do sometimes, and trying to personally resolve.

>>10168

>I find the fact that he has ties with Haitian voodoo magick particularly distasteful

Well, ATR's can be pretty potent, which is why you have so many circles abusing these energies for personal gain, but there are just as many if not more that are rooted in right action. People think it's a black thing, but really it's about who is called into the traditions. Some of them are based on bloodlines and ancestor worship, but I don't believe that to be the case for all the traditions. There are people of all ethnicities engaging in many of the practices and extracting from it what is useful for their personal path in a respectful manner. I don't think it is any lesser or greater than traditional european witchcraft, just a lot more chaotic and primal from my personal observations, though I wouldn't know as I don't have direct experience. Some of the more rooted occult traditional systems of ATR's are quite virtuous in that regard if you do some reading on it. It's just this new orleans hoodoo craze that seems to be less rooted in older traditions and seems to be more like an ATR version of chaos magic, etc. I believe the whole idea of these traditions being reserved exclusively for people of african descent is internet black supremacist propaganda. As mentioned in BH's palo mayombe blog, one can practice these traditions as well and 'extol many virtues.' The primary energies and spirits you are communing with aren't "black" spirits; they just seem to have more correspondence with certain bloodlines of black descent. But you can be pure white or chinese or whatever and still be called into these paths (I believe it's called being 'scratched').

But who knows, I don't know all that much about these african occult traditions. Everything in this post is pure speculation, so take with a grain of salt.

>>10168

From a practical standpoint "angels" and the "gods" hoodoo practitioners make deals with/worship are essentially the same class of beings. They're just fuckers cut off from the stream who need loosh from humans since they can't tap into the source.

>>10173

Daemons know humanity near better than any other non-physical entity. Daemons are bathed in the most base and primal drivers behind our evolution. The dominions of a demon eternally steep in those same primordial juices of consciousness and for a magician that is both the blessing and the curse.

So essentially from what I have gathered so far, BH's system is superior to the Golden Dawn versions. He claims linage of a more superior spiritual current, one "shrouded in secrecy." Also, he drops knowledge that has "never been heard outside the highest magical lodges."

I admit, the guy does drop a lot of gold in his videos and blog and I have personally benefited from the wisdom he has put out there.

But I am still very skeptical about the GOODS planetary spheres. Also how he attributes them to the tree of life.

How legit is the GOODS current?

Can anyone reading this who has actually practiced the rituals and/or is part of the order help here?

>>9724

>Hebrew gods will also try to do this by lying to you about eternal torture in hell, which doesn't exist because spirits can be slain; your spirit is not immortal.

But I thought all spirits were a part of The All and ultimately return to it? When your spirit is slain, does The All lose a part of itself?

Also, how does the possibility of death for spirits invalidate the impossibility of eternal torture. Even here on Earth, people are tortured without being killed. If Hebrew Gods have as much power as they claim, could they not torture you without killing you?

>>11332

You break apart into the matter that comprises you, you do not cease to be.

>>11333

So I become conscious of the fact that the matter that comprises of me is now scattered?

>>2859

>GOODS daily routine

did anyone ever get this codified in text form? if so, can someone post it? if not, does anyone have a different daily/weekly ritual set I can go by. I've been really down lately and I don't have the energy to set something up myself, so I thought if I could start something routine it might help align my chakras and give me greater functionality

>>6369

Ra Material mentions this long before Montalk, if anything he borrowed it from there or other similar material. If you assume something, be careful what you say to others