Seeker 2016-01-21 12:15:10 No.277
Not so much a fan of the intro flute sound, but it gradually develops into the sound of dying, or ascension. Surely will amplify your ritualistic practices.
Seeker 2016-01-21 18:18:02 No.294
This is the most /fringe/ song I've found in a long time.
http://www.mediafire.com/listen/s39a69h5jfkrn5c/Pho%27_-_0UTR0_%28Hero%27s_journey%29.mp3
Pho' - 0UTR0 (Hero's journey)
The hero’s true journey begins at the point at which he crosses the threshold separating the ordinary from the extraordinary world. Jim Morrison said, "There are things known and things unknown and in between are The Doors."
When the hero opens the door that takes him from the world of common data to the uncommon world, his life changes forever. One way or another, he will never be the same again. He is leaving behind the familiar to venture into the Great Unknown where there is no comfort zone, and no safety net. The sheeple stare curiously at the strange door that leads to the new world. For a while, it seems enticing but as they shuffle closer, saying "baa" all the while, the door exudes a terrible power.
It creates an invisible force field that keeps away all but the finest members of the human race. Even to reach the door is an impressive feat. To actually go through it means you are capable of becoming God. You are ready to be initiated into the highest mysteries. The sheeple watch in awe as the door swings open and the hero steps through. Instantly, he vanishes from sight, and the door swings shut once more. The sheeple turn away and go back to grazing. "Oh, we’ll be heroes in our video games," they say. "Doing it for real is so much hassle. A virtual hero’s as good as a real one."
The hero – on the other side of the door, the side that only higher humanity ever experiences – has nothing but his inner divinity to sustain and guide him. There are no sheeple here. There are no easy paths, soft options or lazy dreams. You did not come here for instant gratification. You came to transform yourself from clay into alchemical gold.
You have chosen the hardest path, the path that mercilessly punishes all weakness. The bones of failed heroes lie strewn everywhere. Almost all of the Grail Knights – mightiest and most magnificent of men though they were – perished here. If they couldn’t make it then who can? You seriously think you can accomplish the impossible?
The hero immediately finds himself travelling downwards, into ever deepening darkness. The blackest and most forbidding mountains arise around him. The path is stony and painfully hard. He reaches the densest, darkest of forests and hears the most terrifying noises…human screams. Just as Dante did, the hero will have to open the gate of hell and venture into the Inferno where all of his deepest fears reside. On the other side, Paradise awaits, but how many can ever get there when hell itself stands between them and their goal?
Hell is the ultimate road of trials. Here you are subjected to every torment, everything from which you have fled in your ordinary life. Here you must reconcile all of the things that have troubled and disturbed you. You must encounter your Father and Mother and come to terms with them, not as their child, but as an equal adult who has put childish thing behind you. You must confront all the bullies who bid you down, every one who harmed you, all those who screwed you over. You must relive all of the things you fucked up in your life and understand why. You must encounter your anima/animus and resolve all the issues you have with the opposite sex.
You will encounter every demon, temptress, conman and monster. You have to overcome them all, and that means reaching into your own soul and summoning forth your Higher Self, that part of you that already has one foot in the divine order. Your task, you now realise, is to replace your lower self with your divine self. Your lower self does not have a prayer of surviving in hell.
Your lower self is weak, trivial, stupid, cowardly and soft. It wants easy pleasures and to fit in with the flocks of sheeple. Your Higher Self, on the other hand, is immortal and, when fully conscious, indistinguishable from God. The gap between you and God is both infinitely wide and trivially small.
It is gnosis allows you to bridge the unbridgeable. Gnosis is ultimate intuition. Gnosis is about listening to the pulse of the cosmos. Gnosis is about separating your mind from the mortal world of ordinary consciousness and linear thinking and embracing the immortal and infinite world where everything is interconnected.
You must transcend yourself. You must reach for a miraculous ladder that disintegrates rung by rung as you climb it. There’s no way back. At the top of the ladder is another door, the one that takes you out of the darkness and into the infinite and eternal light.
What is the hero’s task all about? It’s about descending into your deepest self with absolute honesty and conviction, about getting rid of all the bullshit and delusion, all of the expectations of others that are fundamentally about them and nothing to do with you.
It’s about asking yourself – "Who am I? What do I want? What really makes me tick? Do I have the courage to pursue my highest ambitions even though there is no guarantee of success, even though I will have to make enormous sacrifices and will become estranged from the sheeple who were once my friends? My status in their eyes may drop to zero. My family may disown me. The world will think I am mad. Yet how can I ignore my inner voice, the voice that tells me who I really am and of what I’m really capable?"
The hero is fearless, dedicated, irrepressible. He is self-defining and self-creating. He will not stop. He will not give in. He will do whatever it takes. That’s what makes him different from everyone, they are incapable of making sacrafices. The hero knows that nothing great can be achieved without sacrifice.
The hero must endure pain to enjoy the highest heights of human greatness. The hero’s journey is always the same. He descends into the underworld where he must endure a ghastly ordeal in which his lower self perishes. Only then can the hero taste an astonishing spiritual rebirth where he is initiated into the higher mysteries.
He takes hold of the sword of knowledge and with it he cuts through all unknown things and reveals their secret contents. He has penetrated to the Source. At last, he is able to get to the top of the sacred ladder and open the exit door. The first sight that greets him is the great boon he has been searching for all his life – the Holy Grail itself. Is that a sight you want to see too?
Then what price will you pay?
Seeker 2016-01-27 16:47:25 No.526
from http://www.nachtkabarett.com/coil
The group, particularly John Balance, was incredibly deep in the occult and esoteric. Not just limited to imagery alone but moreso during the song creation process where such methods as attempting to channel spirits, Enochian calling, experimentation with mind altering substances to translate the experience into music and at times 10 to 16 minute compositions for the purpose of the composition playing an integral role in ritual magick and the evocation of energies.
For me I find it causes my vibes to be lowered by invoking and thus resonating those emotions. I've heard from others it can help release them. I would presume this is done by the mechanic of causing the energy (previously stagnate) to flow and so I would presume that it means that in *can* be healthy, in moderation, and only when needed.
Personally I dislike this approach and I make a habit of avoiding it altogether and instead transmuting/alchemizing any bad emotions/vibes.
I will furthermore comment thus on music and it's vibrational effects on oneself; I used to have all sorts of music in my normal-everyday playlist, as long as it sounded (aesthetically) nice it was there. originally I paid no heed to the moral-emotional-vibrational content of the music nor the affirmations that the lyrics where, that is to say, I did not selectively consciously choose the best psychic food for my mind. For a time it just was.
I loved my music dearly, and I still do, listening to it every day and then once upon a song I notice the actual energetic content behind the physical sound. I was appalled, it was horrid, it was toxic, it was negative, and it was something I would never consciously choose to embody nor anything I wished to be manifest into my life. And so with some reluctance I decided to strike it from my normal listening playlist. I then was forced to question myself, "how much of my music is like this?" It sent me on an analysis rampage, I carefully listened to, meditated on, and felt the affirmative-lyrical content, the emotional-vibrational content, the conceptual-ideological-visualization of the song, and the moral content, holding it up to my ideal. Needless to say, much of it failed, and many quite spectacularly.
I sifted through all of my music and after I was done, what remained was pure, ideal, and of positive and high vibratory quality. And though it was a mere 20% of what I had before, it felt so much better. No longer dragged down by all the negativity I was practically high for the next several days while I adapted to the new level of vibration that then became my norm.
I know very well what you're talking about. But could you provide examples of what you define as high vibrational quality? Possibly as many examples as you can. It can be just titles to save your time. I'm asking because I'm interested whether the concept of "pure", "high-vibrational" music is subjective and relative, or fixed. I'm wondering this because I read someone say the same thing as you, and then I realized he listens to songs that make me somewhat repulsed.
After dissecting my musical tastes and a bit of meditation I came to conclusion that what I call "high-vibration" is basically any music that I find genuine. A lot of songs feel artificially manafactured to me, I can feel it after hearing one line of lyrics, and sometimes even the type of beat. I developed the ability to tell whether the person put the soul in the song and expressed genuine truth, or maliciously manafactured the song with aim to push specific buttons in the listener. People around me don't care about it at all. For some reason I'm always deeply aware of it. I can have fun to artificial music in social setting, although it leaves a distaste. It makes me uncomfortable when when people around me vibe to manafactured, unoriginal, and artificial musical cliches in songs. I don't tell it to anyone but holy shit, modern songs make me feel so wrong I sometimes turn off the radio and say it's because I have headache.
Not him. For me, it's music which can raise your mind to a higher level without manipulating or infiltrating it.
Any song with a repeating chorus or hook that can get stuck in my head, I see as a manipulative thought-form.
Any song which is grounded in the physical or emotional world, which can be simply described with a single emotional word like "happy" or "sad", does not raise my mind to a higher spiritual level. These songs are manipulative because they play with my emotional state.
I want music to come from another world, some divine realm or higher intelligence. Imagine playing an instrument. Your expression can come from basic, primal human emotions. This is usually fiery and extravagant, very manipulative, catchy, and moving. Or it can come from something in your subconscious which is higher, more divine, and more subtle.
It is possible to achieve both - to be both moving emotionally and spiritually - which I think happens quite often. But I prefer pure divine spirit resonance with the manipulative mental/emotional thought-forms removed.
I'm still searching for music which fits this criteria, but so far a lot of early classical pieces and a small minority of modern experimental artists have piqued my interest.
Seeker 2016-02-10 13:52:26 No.851
>I'm asking because I'm interested whether the concept of "pure", "high-vibrational" music is subjective and relative, or fixed.
There is some subjectivity, but there is also transjectivity as well.
http://montalk.net/metaphys/265/soul-resonance-and-music
Is a great article on this topic.
>But could you provide examples of what you define as high vibrational quality?
Just for you anon;
http://www.mediafire.com/download/h9p9oplvdjb81w5/Fringe_Music.7z
And everything I post too. Take what you will from my archive, some of the songs I've pitch converted to 432 hz, the others outside the folder I have not though I would like to.
Also note I do have many tracks exclusivly for meditation, tones, frequencies, and guided expeirences. I excluded those though I do often meditate with my music proper.
>People around me don't care about it at all. For some reason I'm always deeply aware of it. I can have fun to artificial music in social setting, although it leaves a distaste. It makes me uncomfortable when when people around me vibe to manafactured, unoriginal, and artificial musical cliches in songs. I don't tell it to anyone but holy shit, modern songs make me feel so wrong I sometimes turn off the radio and say it's because I have headache.
I know that feel… Most modern music is just so bad. Having to activly fight the intrusive thought forms…
>Any song with a repeating chorus or hook that can get stuck in my head, I see as a manipulative thought-form.
That can be true, but I still permit things that are positive in nature yet still that.
Seeker 2016-03-04 03:54:54 No.1369
what do you boys think of this?
https://soundcloud.com/boobenmeyer/in-the-eye-of-the-creator
channeled this drone while indulging in some dxm
Does anyone know how i can write a really good tune? Montalk explains the theory behind music but i can't find anything on how to actually get some ideas im just stuck in scales and arpeggios.
Seeker 2016-03-11 18:48:34 No.1553
Nice, I was listening to a little bit of this band last night. Along with Cult of Youth and Death In June.
I wrote some good ones in my dreams sometimes, but I forget them when I wake. Working on dream recall though so eventually I will be able to remember them long enough to do something with them.
I think it depends on the mindset.
For example, I learned a lament-musical-version of the Hare Krishna mantra, and when singing while feeling sad things I think of them as a feeling of longing for the divine/knowledge of the feeling of separation from it. Also, when I do/get into sad songs I go into it knowing I'm just making another layer of illusion, the same way being in physical reality is layers of illusion. I go into it with the same mindset that I'm an actor becoming a character, enjoying that and dedicating it to the divine.
It's all cathartic to me.
The lament, for example, helped me get over some wounds, helped my aura turn more golden (a friend told me I looked gold the 2nd time I did the lament).
As an aspiring musician (lots of tunes come to me but I haven't arranged many), I have a hard time remembering dream tunes.
Seeker 2016-03-11 20:25:00 No.1559
Yeah music also comes to me in full detail in dreams, there's even a video lol i just can't remember the beat or the notes just the overall feel of the song…
Practice composing music in a trance. What you compose in trance will be very hard to write down, but you'll get the right feel for the process.
What you do is relax, imagine some simple music - make sure it's something original you just thought up. It doesn't have to be good.
Then keep listening to it, go deeper, and let it fill itself in. Let it morph and change on its own. You can direct it, but only gently, like a conductor. If you work it too much it becomes brittle.
I don't bother remembering dream music. It's really good sometimes, but I can access so much wonderful music whenever I want it, I'm never short of ideas.
Seeker 2016-03-13 00:30:33 No.1570
absolutely. the thing about dream music is that you realize you have access to this incredible music at all times; if you can envision it in a dream there isn't any reason you can't do so while awake and then turn it into audible sound
the only problem is i don't have a 40 man choir at my disposal
Seeker 2016-03-13 00:46:59 No.1572
Ooh i ve done this before knowing i was a wizard. One of few flow trance states I've achieved is listening to the music inside and it pouring out
Seeker 2016-03-15 07:08:50 No.1622
Seeker 2016-04-02 00:01:50 No.2100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTWMD1MzQBk
Channel with different things that all seem to have a coherent eerie-obscure theme. Very rare. Found via Fringewizard subscriptions.
Bowie is probably the greats musician/occultist of all time.
He legit studied and practiced the occult, during the station to station years he went insane with cocaine psychosis and thought jimmy page was trying to kill him and thought his pool was haunted.
Seeker 2016-04-06 09:27:44 No.2191
Seeker 2016-04-06 20:03:06 No.2199
Green changed to white, emerald to opal: nothing was changed
The man let the water trickle gently into his glass, and as the green clouded, a mist fell from his mind
Then he drank opaline
Memories and terrors beset him, the past tore after him like a panther
And through the blackness of the present he saw the luminous tiger eyes of the things to be
But he drank opaline
And that obscure night of the soul, and the valley of humiliation, through which he stumbled, were forgotten
He saw blue vistas of undiscovered countries, high prospects and a quiet, caressing sea
The past shed its perfume over him to-day held his hand as if it were a little child
And to-morrow shone like a white star; nothing was changed
He drank opaline
The man had known the obscure night of the soul, and lay even now in the valley of humiliation;
And the tiger menace of the things to be was red in the skies, ut for a little while he had forgotten
Green changed to white, emerald to opal;
Nothing was changed
Seeker 2016-04-07 13:28:36 No.2209
Bowie is probably one of the most successful occultist of the 20th century, in the song station to station he even sings about the kaballah.
Plus he was super handsome and had a bigger dong than you and was a rockstar.
Seeker 2016-06-01 19:05:18 No.2959
That's actually quite nice.
Btw, MC Ride may have become a meme, but some of his texts are pretty cool.
Trips to where few have been
Out of thin air, upon high winds
Rites begin when the sun descends
Have felt what few will ever know
Have seen the truth beneath the glow,
Of the ebb and flow, where roots of all mysteries grow
I am below, so far below
The bottom line
Transmitting live, transmissions rise
From the depths out of controlled by
Suspended glance of an unblinking eyes
Imminent gaze cast 'pon the path that winds
'Pon the path I find, and claim as mine
To ride the waves, of unrest
Made to make me shine as a testament
To why the ways of the blind will never get
Maudlen of the Well is as /fringe/ as it gets. I'll just post a little excerpt from the Wikipedia page.
maudlin's music, lyrics, and atmosphere dealt predominantly with the subject of astral projection. The band described their approach as trying to find music rather than compose it. This was done through practicing astral projection and lucid dreams, from which they were purportedly able to "bring back" pre-existing music from the astral plane (as stated by Toby Driver in the liner notes included with the reissued Bath and Leaving Your Body Map).
Quite some good music here.
Actually enjoy your picks, OP… until the vocals and drums stepped in.
Personally the kind of music I find more useful are monotonous repetitive tones occasionally accompanied by abstract visuals.
I like to look at music as a tool for achieving a soft self induced meditative/hypnotic state.
Buuuuuuuut, that doesn't float most people's boats around here, isn't it? lol
If I had to leave my comfort zone and choose something more mainstream I think I'd go for something like this video.
Brings back the memories of when I first started learning moving, burning and levitating things… I never entirely liked the song due to it's abundance of degradation and general foolery accompanied by silent harmful insertions and showmanship, but it's still an attempt at making something worthy.
So, there you go… recommended.
Seeker 2016-06-17 18:53:42 No.3562
Some languages and cultures/styles, I can feel resonate far stronger than others; I believe it's literally the ancestry written upon my soul.
There are quite a few with Norse blood on /fringe/ so I know they appreciate them at least.
>I like to look at music as a tool for achieving a soft self induced meditative/hypnotic state.
I have that stuff too, though the power comes from me and the state of trance I am in not so much the music per se.
I do use some meditation tracks with rather repetetive sounds (singing bowls, drums, or bells usually) and occasionally mantras, though usually I prefer to do the mantras myself and not have them recorded.
>Personally the kind of music I find more useful are monotonous repetitive tones occasionally accompanied by abstract visuals.
I can't listen to that type if I'm not meditating though, it gets too boring.
Seeker 2016-06-17 23:03:45 No.3567
>I like to look at music as a tool for achieving a soft self induced meditative/hypnotic state.
I do too, not all the time because I enjoy various styles and genres, but when I do, I usually go for ambient/dark ambient or drone, that kind of stuff.
Vid related. I love that project.
Or harsh noise wall if I want to sweep my mind clean.
>If I had to leave my comfort zone and choose something more mainstream
Why would you have to? Personally I think that track is awful.
Seeker 2016-06-29 23:53:29 No.4002
Wow, I thought I was the only maudlin/Kayo Dot fan on this board.
>Maudlin of the Well is as /fringe/ as it gets
I like to think that as well. Every maudlin of the Well and Kayo Dot release is packed with creativity. Each album is another venture always unlike those before it.
Lyrically, Byron and Toby have very distinct and wonderful styles. The song "Wayfarer" and many passages in the album "Dowsing Anemone…" really show off how fantastical and ethereal their writing can be. Not to mention what meanings might be buried underneath.
I'd recommend these bands to anyone who's looking for "fringe" music, or really good black metal, chamber music, darkwave, classical, etc….
Also, have you listened to "Plastic Houses on Base of Sky" yet? I wasn't sure about it at first, but it's growing on me with every listen.
Seeker 2016-06-30 21:52:21 No.4028
Music has been in the center of my life for a very long time. In fact, I believe that music introduced me to the occult.
Ever since I was a teenager I have always been searching for more and more experimental stuff. Mainstream music have always been just trash to me and I always wanted something new, something which leaves the conventional and mundane far behind. I got into ambient and dark ambient scenes and absolutely loved it. The slow, meditative, droning soundscapes introduced me to meditation. It was quite like getting into a completely new world.
Also, at some point in time I used harsh noise to something I would only describe as intuitive emotional alchemy.
Vid related is one of the first dark ambient projects I fell in love with. It was great for meditations and lucid dreaming (the projects name translates to "the Edge of Dreams" or something like that).
Seeker 2016-07-14 20:24:56 No.4363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No6jHwe0QoQ
Is this /fringe/?
I love it, it makes me feel like I am ascending in a way.
Seeker 2016-07-16 13:23:31 No.4398
He contributed many songs to the Matrix soundtrack I think.
Anyway I got into his music while searching for some siccck psy trance/goa and I must admit I love him wholeheartedly.
>Thank you :*
Him and you both!
Seeker 2016-07-20 14:47:27 No.4564
Yeah, I used to listen to musick in 432Hz and in some cases it was a nice experience and certainly "refreshed" some old songs for me, while in some other cases it felt unnecessary or even sounded worse than before.
It depends on the genre probably, when you listen to something that was specifically crafted for the purpose of inducing altered states of consciousness or to some ambient or drone or noise/atonal music or music already composed in some different tunning than the standard one it doesn't make a real difference I think.
Regarding that whole positive vibrations thingy, natural vibration etc. I haven't really experienced any change either. If you listen to depressive suicidal black metal it still sounds negative, if you listen to chillwave it doesn't sound any more positive.
The only real difference I experienced was at the very beginning of me converting music to 432Hz, but it could well be a placebo. I remember listening to some stoner/sludge then and it sounded a lot more "groovy" but there might be various reasons for that. There were also 432Hz mixes on youtube I definitely enjoyed, but I don't have any comparison because I never listened to them in a different tuning.
Also, I disliked the idea of tinkering with something an artist carefully crafted. My friend became a big fan of 432Hz tough.
Anyway, that's just my opinion, coming from personal experience, it may very well work for you.
Seeker 2016-07-21 14:21:40 No.4594
Large bunch of ambientish stuff with downloads and all. I think they also have a bandcamp.
Seeker 2016-07-22 09:51:04 No.4610
Depends. I've been meditating with and without music (mostly ambient stuff) and it brings different results.
Personally I prefer to meditate in a quiet environment and without music, but it's not always possible, so I sometimes suppress noises with headphones.
Just try it and observe. Meditate with music and without and see what suits you better, or maybe figure out for what purpose you might meditate with music.
For me music makes visualizations easier, but at the same time it's harder to do void meditation obviously, so it's mostly a matter of picking the right music for the purpose or deciding whether to listen to the musick at all.
If you are asking specifically about neofolk music, as much as I love it, I couldn't meditate to it, but it's just personal preference I guess. For me it's too… well, musical. It has a rhythm, melody and all that good stuff and it's quite distracting, I prefer something more amorphous, droney and spacious.
Seeker 2016-08-04 22:31:07 No.5237
>hold an image of your ideal in your mind so that the reality changes to match the ideal.
Seeker 2016-08-05 12:03:59 No.5255
after reading the lyrics it becomes apparent that this is a concept album about awakening your occult powers, the vocalist claimed in interviews that he is relaying knowledge he got from his higher self condensed into simple language for other people to understand, it's a pretty powerful album tbh, even a track at the end for all the armchair occultists "Think not forever"
also worth noting
the other bandmembers had a death metal project prior to this, with lyrical themes also based on awakening
>2:53
Seeker 2016-08-05 19:07:00 No.5272
his fire water and earth albums are godlike. with the exception of some songs
Seeker 2016-08-10 03:28:49 No.5420
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LJkL4V1G3w
How has no one posted Holy Sons yet. Someone posted Grails, but Holy Sons is something else
Seeker 2016-08-10 16:52:58 No.5458
Just a "head's up", neuroscience has verified the occult belief in vibrational modes that enduce emotional states.
Properly crafted music is powerful spellcraft. Not all artists are good intentioned, and the neutral creator can be most easily influenced by evil. Beware not only the Artist, but the Producer who finely tunes the harmonics, adds post production effects, and inserts additional instrument hits / flourishes. In doing so one can harness and shape the power of the music, bending it towards one's own ends.
As a consequence of the nature of our plane very little music is spiritually uplifting. Do not confuse that which invokes energy within you as empowering you. Those being enchanted are frequently aware of the enchantment being placed upon them, it is pleasing to them and so they embrace it, falling deeper under the spell.
Be careful what magic you allow to flow directly into your being. In order to be on guard and shield yourself and appreciate without succumbing to influence against your will you must first have awareness that such influences may exist.
This was not a warning for the learned initiate who may channel the energies of others, but for those who are awakening and may still be led astray by the musical sensations enchantments invoke.
tipp 2016-09-01 01:17:11 No.6445
I am Shiva the Destroyer, I march to the beat of my drum with a numberless horde at my back, my host march for conquest & prosperity.
I am power!
Seeker 2016-09-01 10:09:40 No.6528
Seeker 2016-10-04 04:14:40 No.8306
This article was posted on 8/fringe/, I thought it was pretty interesting.
Seeker 2016-11-11 12:10:22 No.9886
Yes! Weird, I just listened to it yesterday and today I see it here.
Absolutely loved it, it's like Basinski but more musical.
Seeker 2016-12-14 16:05:10 No.11142
Seeker 2016-12-28 12:43:03 No.11597
don't it always seem to go
that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone
pave paradise and put up a parking lot
-Lao Tzu