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Esoteric Wizardry

☻ 2016-03-27 21:19:20 No.1914 >>1924 >>1918 >>1917

Who here uses cleaning as a meditational exercise and simultaneously as they physically clean up and organize a space they purify it on the etheric and astral levels as well?

The room you are in effects your mind greatly. How you arrange everything in your room changes the energy flow and matters in other ways too.

When I go through my room, I make an effort to imagine each object in the room, and I organize everything carefully. I know exactly where everything in my room is and I have at least a hundred or more objects in here. This is a good practice to develop your higher imaginal/astral senses and your memory.

As you clean you should really feel and think about what you're doing. The touching of things, rubbing them down, etc. is you imagine it as you do it, uses and increases your capacity for storing Earth-energy (which lets you do psyhokinesis and various other things, it's the touch-energy that has to do with space and pressure and gravity and stuff). While you clean everything as well, you can force some of your energy into the surroundings and into the things you clean, and purge them.

I burn incense and I get all the dust out and I open the windows to get everything aired out on a day where the weather permits it.

It is good to have everything organized and stored away. Your room should have as little distractions as possible that you have to constantly filter out. If you've ever been in a really messy, noisy, busy place a lot where there's constant shit you have to strain yourself to block out and then spent awhile in simple surroundings in a very quiet place, you will notice you feel way less stressed and energy deprived, as less energy is wasted constantly trying to block stuff out. I for one keep a boxfan going all the time producing white noise to block out the noises of mundanes below and also keep the air well circulated in my room; under more ideal conditions I wish I could turn it off more from time to time and actually get complete silence but I can't.

A good clean, tidy, room is good for studying in. It is also important to make space for spirits to come visit you, to do your magickal operations, etc.

When you burn incense in a room, there is a meditation you should do. Set up your incense, burn it, then in the mind follow it through the whole room using the sense of smell and the visual faculty as well. Become very aware of it filling up the room. With your awareness focused on the incense, you can repeat mantras or make a suggestion or simply intend that it purifies the room on the higher planes and various other effects should work.

You may also want to create thoughtformed shielding for your room, do the gnostic pulse banishing ritual, and change the temperature and humidity via IIH-style imbuing of the room. Anyone who enters my room always, immediately, notices it has a very different feeling from the rest of the house. I have also magickally protected my room to make mundanes want to leave whenever they might try to enter so I am not bothered.

☻ 2016-03-27 21:22:22 No.1915 >>3937

Every initiate should have their whole room accessible as an astral construct in their mind, they being able to go mentally through their room, and see everything in there.

Seeker 2016-03-27 23:48:34 No.1917 >>1918

>>1914

I don't really pay attention to the arrangement of furniture besides of what instinctively feels right. I do, however, like to clean up and throw shit away as a psychologically liberating practice.

If you spend too much time inside your room, no amount of 风水 will liberate you from the gripping anxiety it produces to be jailed up in there with your demons 24/7 though…

Seeker 2016-03-27 23:52:56 No.1918 >>1930 >>1919

>>1914

>>1917

Also I don't think it is healthy to try isolating yourself from your fellow human beings by tagging them with an elitist pejorative such as "mudanes". They can potentially love you as much as you could them, if you weren't caught up in that elitist, toxic thought pattern.

Seeker 2016-03-28 02:39:51 No.1919 >>1930

>>1918

>love you as much as you love them

Depends upon the definition of love. The mundane version is that you 'like' them a lot because they do something that pleases you. The true definition is that 'love' is a completely accepting force. No matter how the target changes, they will be still loved an equal amount.

Seeker 2016-03-28 03:22:03 No.1924 >>1931 >>1927

>>1914

>Who here uses cleaning as a meditational exercise and simultaneously as they physically clean up and organize a space they purify it on the etheric and astral levels as well?

Cleaning things physically are a bit different in my opinion compared to cleaning upon the etheric and astral levels due to it being different densities that require different methods. On the physical level, you need to grab a broom/dust pan and clean things like that while meditation is required for etheric and astral.

>The room you are in effects your mind greatly. How you arrange everything in your room changes the energy flow and matters in other ways too.

I somewhat agree with that. While the arrangement of objects can influence the energy in the room, the energy put into the room shall effect you more. For example, a brothel shall have a very different energy than a room used for politics and diplomatic jobs.

>When I go through my room, I make an effort to imagine each object in the room, and I organize everything carefully. I know exactly where everything in my room is and I have at least a hundred or more objects in here. This is a good practice to develop your higher imaginal/astral senses and your memory.

Basic energy imbuing and I don't believe it will help to much with developing your astral senses. Doing visualization meditations work FAR better in that regard.

Everything you wrote is pretty much the same thing.

Also, upon the topic of shielding your room, check the meditation thread on that. I believe there are some good meditations that cover that topic entirely.

>make mundanes want to leave whenever they might try to enter

A personal suggestion, get your own house/apartment. Being around one's parents puts you in a poor position on many levels.

Changing the temperature and humidity sounds interesting, just make sure you learn to adapt your body as well.

Seeker 2016-03-28 03:45:33 No.1927 >>1933

>>1924

>A personal suggestion, get your own house/apartment. Being around one's parents puts you in a poor position on many levels.

I'd like to hear more about why.

☻ 2016-03-28 04:22:32 No.1930 >>1936 >>1933

>>1919

>equality

>accepting

I only love ideals not people. My love for a person is a degree of how much they manifest an ideal.

>>1918

Egalitarianism is toxic, elitism is proper and efficient. If you adopt elitest attitude you advance and you get shit done, if you don't then you waste time arguing with mundanes who treat you like shit anyways in my case. I used to care about them but not anymore they have hurt me really bad over my whole life, continuously, over and over again, and all efforts in the past to make things right were met with more betrayal and hurt.

Your mindset would just have me continued to be abused.

Nope, nope, nope; I'm not going to suffer and degrade myself more for them. I have high aspirations. When I am ready to deal with the mundanes, it will be in a completely covert subtle manner, and I will use my magick without them knowing. There's no use in trying to confront them directly.

☻ 2016-03-28 04:25:36 No.1931 >>1936 >>1933

>>1924

I wrote the meditations in the meditation thread you know…

I've been wanting my own house forever, it's not as simple as "just go get one". I'm stuck here for now until I have enough money to move out.

Seeker 2016-03-28 05:44:39 No.1933 >>1955 >>1948

>>1927

Firstly, when you were a young child it has always been put into your mind that you are subservient to your parents. This effects your subconscious as well and will commonly make you put them above others. Society programs people to think Family > Others, and Parents > You because they are smarter( they are older/lived longer) and because they have created the physical form you reside inside. Because of this, and from my perspective, parents often have a egotistical view of themselves because "Hurr durr I'm older which equals smarter!" and "I created you so that makes me special/good." Both of which are sometimes completely wrong. For example, mundane parents will think they are the 'correct' ones because they follow christianity and worship YHWH and have been doing that for so long and with much support that they are correct. (That is an issue with christ-cucks in general) Unless they have learned about something from a scholar, they area of experience can be easily obtained. Lets say your father learned how to fix certain issues in his car and has done the same to many of his friends cars. Now, you could do the same as a wizard. Create thoughtform that you learn and fix X and then going through the normal means of looking it up. I probably wrote my point a bit complicated, but the basic of it is they learned something from the basic level up and you can do the same and better because you are a wizard.

Also, the fact that two human beings of different genders using their ability to create another physical form is nothing special. This planet is far over populated and only add to the problems.

Living with one's parents allow them to exploit the common programmed control over you and as well as the fact that they let you live with them and they can kick you out, turn off your internet, and generally be an asshole to you if it fits their desire. While having at least an apartment gives you large control over that area and removes them from your general aura. And with magic, it is easily obtainable. And a suggestion if you reach that level, call your parents by their real names, not mom or dad. Even then you subconsciously give them control. You must approach them upon an equal level at that point because, as a wizard, you more or less above them. (This topic is generally regarding mundane parents and was created through my experience and perspective.)

>>1930

Definition of love:

Love is the vibration of infinite truth. What resonates with love aligns toward the Creator. Seeing with love means seeing with the eyes of the Creator, a perspective chosen to be undistorted by prejudice, intolerance, ignorance, or separation. With love, all things are made possible because anything that is of the Creator is understood, allowed, accepted, and forgiven. To feel love is to feel the joy of remembering the divine unity of all existence and acknowledging the absolute truths within and before you. Loving another means recognizing the common godspark within them and therefore caring for their spiritual evolution as much as you would for your own. It is compassion without pity.

I took it from another anon.

>>1931

>I wrote the meditations in the meditation thread you know…

Do not claim something if you have no proof of ownership. If you do have a proof of ownership, please provide it.

>I've been wanting my own house forever, it's not as simple as "just go get one". I'm stuck here for now until I have enough money to move out.

Unless you are a minor in a first world country, just use magic. Seriously. One of the biggest things about magic is that it is a mental universe. By believing you are stuck there, you are indeed stuck there. Make a thoughtform to get you money or just go straight towards manifesting a new place to live. Hell, its that simple. Any excuse for being unable to create a thoughtform is going to be completely bullshit.

Seeker 2016-03-28 07:40:50 No.1936 >>1949 >>1948

>>1930

>>1931

Really no offence intended, but you sound like you have some mundane issues left resolving (personal growth).

I don't think it's wise to ignore developmental issues such as gaining independence (slaying the father) or learning to manage a sexual/emotional relationship, etc., before moving on to the magical stuff.

That shit will bite you in the ass. I don't know what your case is exactly, but things like financial independence, having had a more or less stable relationship (doesn't matter if it went to shit, what's important is learning to interact emotionally with other people), loss of virginity as part of maturing emotionally… That kind of normal people stuff is a stepping stone towards your growth as a practicioner of any kind. We have to be mundanes before we can be wizards.

Hell, I'd go as far as saying that having a child or at least participating in raising one would be a useful experience, although I really wouldn't know much about that.

☻ 2016-03-28 12:20:16 No.1948 >>1954 >>1949

>>1933

>Do not claim something if you have no proof of ownership. If you do have a proof of ownership, please provide it.

*tips*

I also created the meditations thread and made the link to it in the FAQ and sticky on /fringe/.

>>1936

The issues aren't necessarily "mundane". Any issue you can think of can be resolved magickally and also can be traced back to karmas seeded in the akasha.

Your advice is generally useles/basic. I'm doing the best I can in the circumstances I have to work with.

How about you tell me something concerning the energy body and constantly burning out? I have a constant energy crisis where I am always expending energy too fast and in a constant burn-out state.

Seeker 2016-03-28 12:30:59 No.1949 >>3762 >>1964 >>1962 >>1954

>>1936

>loss of virginity

>Hell, I'd go as far as saying that having a child or at least participating in raising one would be a useful experience, although I really wouldn't know much about that.

Upon the topic of 'virginity'. Mundane sex is absolutely useless. On the normal level, it is nothing more the the act of procreation that is commonly done because of the hormonal changes it makes. It should be avoided and instead a cultivation of one's sexual energy. Unless you truly have your soul mate and do tantric sex.

Having a child, through the mundane path, does no good. You won't be advanced enough to train the child properly, add to the population issue, and add another being to be harvested by the STS based entities. If you really want to 'raise a child' (as stupid as that is) create a tulpa or some shit like that. If you are going to create a child in the wizard sense, you must first master yourself and invite a good 1st level being to inhabit the body once created. You don't create a being, only a physical form that is manipulated by a higher being.

>we have to be mundanes before we can be wizards

A completely wrong point of view my friend. That is a limitation. I suggest taking time to meditate and to realize if these things are truly useful, as well as to read many books.

>>1948

>*tips*

>I also created the meditations thread and made the link to it in the FAQ and sticky on /fringe/.

I believe you mean 8/fringe/, not the one on this new chan. Also, the fedora meme isn't a form of proof. I shall continue to believe that many of the meditations have been created by someone other than you, which is in fact true.

>expending energy too fast

>constant burn-out

Looks like you got more mundane problems than you think.

Seeker 2016-03-28 13:10:22 No.1954

>>1948

>>1949

Politics in the old occult lodges must've been a pain in the ass

Seeker 2016-03-28 13:11:25 No.1955 >>1963

>>1933

>Firstly, when you were a young child it has always been put into your mind that you are subservient to your parents. This effects your subconscious as well and will commonly make you put them above others.

you may be right, though I don't treat my mother that way (my father is dead). If anything, she's been fairly unreliable and I've treated her worse than she should be due to perceived or real abuse.

>parents often have a egotistical view of themselves because "Hurr durr I'm older which equals smarter!"

true.

> removes them from your general aura.

that, I certainly could use.

as for the rest, she's a christian but seems to accept my wizardry well enough bc she's psychic ish. She's at least equal if not subservient to me for the most part. I don't tolerate disrespect and she kinda does.

The biggest problems I have are the meat, disorder, and electronics in the house.

>>1933

> just use magic

yeah, I should probably escape, tbh.

Seeker 2016-03-28 14:39:31 No.1962 >>1976

>>1949

The bulk of the meditations in that thread were written by smiley and the thread here was just copied from 8fringe. I can tell he wrote them just by how they're written. If you spent just a little time lurking before posting, you would also be able to recognize smiley's posting style, newfag.

Seeker 2016-03-28 16:01:56 No.1963

>>1955

Meat and electronics? Liberate yourself from preconception and don't be a slave to any belief system.

Seeker 2016-03-28 16:47:21 No.1964 >>1976

>>1949

Sorry but you sound like a christian trying to demonize everything.

Wtf is happening with /fringe/?

Seeker 2016-03-28 17:17:58 No.1968 >>1979

Feng Shui is a wonderful tool to move energy in your life. I've been practicing this in all of the environments I have the chance for a few years now and it still amazes me how one single placement change can bring some things in and/or expel others from my life.

What's up with the whole "mundane" name calling? Don't do it. That's not nice. You are a wizard, Harry. Not an asshole.

Now back to Feng Shui, have any of you made your own wealth vase? What's inside?

Seeker 2016-03-28 18:53:15 No.1976 >>1977

>>1962

Here is the reason for my thinking on exactly why he never created it:

Featured In: The Book of Knowledge, Initiation Into Hermetics', and countless other books. You will always find this meditation, under various names, as the start of any serious occult development plan – which is why I'm describing it here first.

The above text was taken directly from the first meditation in that thread. If smiley truely wrote the original thread, of which I have many doubts, he never created the meditations in the first place. Smiley is actually somewhat of a cancer upon our community. 8/fringe/ has fallen into destruction due to him. Also, calling me names does not solve any problem, but only proves to me that you are smiley himself as only he stoops that low.

>>1964

>Sorry but you sound like a christian trying to demonize everything.

No, I am only providing the truth to certain subjects. Being a slave to any limiting belief system is an improper path for a wizard. Also, where in my entire post was something that pointed towards christianity? The entire thing was exposing why mundanes were less than wizards and how a wizardly lifestyle was far better. I can not see a single thing that was related to the Abrahamic religion.

Seeker 2016-03-28 18:57:35 No.1977 >>1979

>>1976

that anon was comparing way you were demonizing things with the way christians demean things.

Seeker 2016-03-28 19:25:56 No.1979 >>1988

>>1977

I was not trying to purposefully 'demonize' things. (I dislike that word, all 'demons' are not necessarily STS entities.) I have only been exposing the truth to them. Doing almost everything through the mundane methods is a poor way to go through them. Being a wizard is a higher state of being that should be used in all areas of life. Understanding things such as mundane vs wizard sex and as well as many other things need to viewed from a higher level and not just 'experience'. You know, getting tortured is an 'experience' perhaps it should be required if one wants to become a wizard as well?

>>1968

>What's up with the whole "mundane" name calling? Don't do it. That's not nice. You are a wizard, Harry. Not an asshole.

How is this even a problem?

1: the word 'mundane' is not even insulting. Look up the definition.

2: the word 'mundane' describes their level of development: NONE

3:In the Harry Potter books, people who do not believe or do not practice wizardry are called muggles. Quite hypocritical that you use that.

Seeker 2016-03-28 22:00:33 No.1988 >>1995

>>1979

> I have only been exposing the truth to them

Then you're the "truth master"? Please, enlighten me with your wisdom, master.

Seeker 2016-03-28 23:16:50 No.1995

>>1988

>Then you're the "truth master"? Please, enlighten me with your wisdom, master.

I am no 'truth master', but what I wrote is very simple. Anybody who has read enough occult books will agree almost everything I have written.

I, and as well as everyone on this 3rd density, still have much to learn, grow, and advance ourselves. There is no perfection, as perfection is stagnation.

Seeker 2016-06-24 14:18:21 No.3761

If you were truly enlightened, you would not have this disdain for "mundanes", who are just people like us. It is very clear in Buddhist scriptures that enlightened beings are compassionate, not disdainful.

The Ten Bulls are a great example. After transcending all things and reaching the source, the sage returns to society and mingles with the people of the world.

This attitude of superiority will keep you forever bound to your ego and to this world. We must go beyond, beyond, far beyond, totally beyond to find awakening.

Seeker 2016-06-24 15:43:10 No.3762 >>3939

>>1949

>tantric sex

Confirmed for not knowing shit. Please, don't give indigo pills a bad name.

Seeker 2016-06-28 13:13:42 No.3937

>>1915

yup

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci

Seeker 2016-06-28 20:59:53 No.3939 >>3950

>>3762

What is wrong with tantric sex?

Isn't it another name for sex magic?

Seeker 2016-06-29 03:27:18 No.3950 >>3955

>>3939

>What is wrong with tantric sex?

It doesn't exist.

>Isn't it another name for sex magic?

That's the furthest away from truth that you can be.

At this point in time, I have already explained this tens of times, both here and on 8ch/fringe/, so I'm mostly gonna copypaste my previous posts.

Tantra has nothing to do with sex. This is the most basic, surface-level, new age misconception about this system. It basically shows to anyone who actually studied Tantra even a little bit that you don't know a single thing about this system.

While it is true that most Tantrik schools (especially those belonging to Vamachara, the so called Left Hand Path) have some sexual rites, they are by no means the primary focus of Tantra, and they constitute only a minuscule part of the system and are mostly for those who already mastered their desires (or for a special class of Tantrikas - viras).

Moreover, the descriptions in some tantras regarding rites involving sexual intercourse and use of meat and alcohol are highly metaphorical.

>[…]And the Kularnava Tantra says that the divine person, or divya, realises that wine flows from the 1,000 petal lotus, flesh is the sense of duality, fish is the disordering of the senses and sexual intercourse is the union of Kundalini with supreme Shiva. Indeed, the commentary to the famous Karpuradistotra goes further and says that true sexual intercourse is union with the goddess within. Intercourse with any other woman is adultery.

Good resource:

http://www.shivashakti.com/sex.htm

Basically Tantra is an ancient magical and spiritual system, concerned with achieving liberation (or siddhis, or both).

Tantra literally means "text", and scriptures containing the teaching are called tantras. In Tantra you don't have "tantric sex" but rather work with mantras, yantras, chakras, do nyasa, meditate and do lots of other esoteric stuff. It is a very complex system, the most complex and powerful I know. Sadly it is now gravely misunderstood by people obsessed with an idea of "spiritual sex".

I really have enough of explaining this stuff again and again, why don't you all just stop using words the meaning of which you don't know? When I first became interested in Tantra and I didn't quite yet know what is it, it took me like 10 minutes of research to establish that it isn't "tantric sex".

Seeker 2016-06-29 04:51:37 No.3955 >>3961 >>4581

>>3950

Thank you for the info, I appreciate the enlightenment.

One more question, why do you post with the indigo pill flag? Looking at the pill thread, the indigo pill doesn't seem to be the type that would help people.

Seeker 2016-06-29 07:34:42 No.3961 >>3968 >>4581

>>3955

>the indigo pill doesn't seem to be the type that would help people

What does it matter? It's just another label.

Indigo pill is an archetype, and although I feel I fit in quite well, there are many areas of myself that are not conforming to it.

Also, I like the color.

I help because I can and because writing posts doesn't require much effort. Most of the time I just want to present some information.

Or maybe I'm just feeding my ego :^)

Seeker 2016-06-29 12:51:02 No.3968 >>3972

>>3961

You're the cutest indigo pill guy.

Seeker 2016-06-29 14:21:58 No.3972

>>3968

Oww

Thanks! c:

Seeker 2016-07-21 01:55:30 No.4581 >>4588

>>3955

Who is he helping?

I won't bore you with my ignorance, but he has a viewpoint and a certain level of awareness different from the two of us.

Different, not necessarily wrong.

Knowledge is power, and how will one use it in the meantime?

>>3961

I like you though, you charming devil ;)

Honestly you've got an interesting angle, and I wanna hear more.

Seeker 2016-07-21 10:19:13 No.4588

>>4581

>who is he helping?

The anon who was in the depths of ignorance regarding Tantra :^)

It's not just a different viewpoint, it's solid research and facts about the system. Or rather it is a viewpoint, but one that is supported with original texts and not common misconceptions. I did admit that sexual rites definitely had their place in Tantra but Tantra is far from being equal to sex, as Mike Magee wrote:

>sexuality is a part of the sadhana (work on oneself) and the tradition, and then, perhaps, only at a certain stage and for a certain time

But of course, when we are talking about something which cannot be supported with scholarly research, then obviously I'm left with just my perspective.

>but he has a viewpoint and a certain level of awareness different from the two of us

Don't we all have a unique viewpoint and level of awareness? I wouldn't call myself special in that regard.

But thanks nevertheless!

>I like you though, you charming devil ;)

You guys are so nice!

>Honestly you've got an interesting angle, and I wanna hear more.

Tbh I'm even thinking about making some threads, but I don't wanna do it half assed.

>power

picrel :^)

Seeker 2016-07-21 11:58:34 No.4592 >>4811 >>8152

Back to the topic in question:

I realize how my brain feels more "at ease" when I tidy my room, but I am quite lazy. I always try to make things easier for me, meaning I put the things I use more often closer to me, I put notes around my computer screen regarding things I don't want to forget, I got a coat hanger that I have designated exclusively for my keys, and I wear a lanyard with them, so every time I come home I immediately take them off and put them on that hanger. I have designated places for other things, such as my sunglasses, my wallet, etc.

Still, I'm sure there are lots of things I could be doing more efficiently. Do you guys know of any good books talking about organization and how to reduce clutter? Or websites, or any online resources?

Thank you :)

pic related is my workspace

Seeker 2016-07-25 07:27:25 No.4811

>>4592

>Still, I'm sure there are lots of things I could be doing more efficiently. Do you guys know of any good books talking about organization and how to reduce clutter? Or websites, or any online resources?

1: Use your will power to clean up your shit.

2: For a more mundane path, every room you leave take AT LEAST one thing out with you that needs to be moved/cleaned/trashed/ect.

3: Work upon your memory, the more you positively rely upon your memory, the better it will be. Relying upon notes for memory can be a negative habit.

4: You can read all the books in the world on being organized, but it will still never help you unless you apply your will.

A general suggestion, use your imagination and meditate regularly.

Seeker 2016-09-25 20:17:59 No.7988 >>8021 >>8020

Who /minimalism/ here? Hoping to reduce my life to a single bag at some point.

Seeker 2016-09-26 15:32:18 No.8020

>>7988

I

Slowly reducing possessions. Books were a sticking point for a bit but they seem to go easily now.

Seeker 2016-09-26 15:51:07 No.8021 >>8032

>>7988

I'm pretty deep in asceticism, was homeless for 6 months against my will and it helped me realize how useless material wealth is. Books belong in libraries, so they are freely available for everyone, owning a book shelf is just a way to show off others. I'm probably never giving up my laptop, but I already gave my smartphone away because it was too much of a distraction. Internet can be both a useful tool in the progress of enlightenment, or a destructive soul-decaying force, depending how you use it. In that regards its a lot like magick.

Seeker 2016-09-26 19:20:35 No.8032

>>8021

What kinds of things do you do with your time? I plan to follow a similar path starting sometime next summer, how can I prepare?

Seeker 2016-09-29 10:58:27 No.8152

>>4592

>Do you guys know of any good books talking about organization and how to reduce clutter?

Not exactly a cool fringe resource, but I really enjoyed "The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up" by Marie Kondo. I used to be a messy slob, and now my apartment is so open and "light", and I actually like all the possessions that I chose to keep. I threw out all the crap that I stored away "just in case". It's amazing how much easier it is for me to focus and concentrate when I'm surrounded by order.