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Esoteric Wizardry

Seeker 2016-12-01 19:30:59 No.10539

Belief. This is the most useful and practical aspect of magick one could get involved in. The understanding of true nature of belief systems is the culmination of years of shadow work and collecting knowledge from various disciplines.

One's personal reality (or collective reality of a group) can be affected by anyone who has enough insight into the nature of belief. Others may use the insights about belief to escape delusions into a zen state. I'd like you to add your points, or discuss the following points so that together we can complete a framework to be used for these belief-related operations.

0. We're not designed to experience complex systems. It's probably never been that useful, or maybe is even impossible. We can only look at beliefs through frameworks based on beliefs. It makes the belief-alchemy the most difficult topic of all magick. At the same time, it's the source of most potential.

1. All perception is based on belief (=knowing something is true). The perception of the world through human senses is the result of very deeply ingrained beliefs. These are difficult to change because they're primordial. Change there would lead to distortion of reality from the perspective of a given believer. The consensus reality can be modified if the primordial belief systems of all people participating in the reality are changed.

2. More recently emerged belief structures (ideology) use the same structures, although these are more malleable. These transform over lifetime. This realm of beliefs is the so-called "narrative". The narrative is modified consciously or unconsciously by various groups or individuals.

3. The purpose of substances like DMT or LSD is to enable all newly-born beings to quickly build efficient beliefs that will make them capable of survival and growth. When used as an adult, the mind is tricked into this learning state again. It may lead to fundamental rebuilding of belief systems and thus change in perception. It may even affect more primordial belief structures responsible for sight, smell etc. Such intervention into belief systems can be positive or negative.

4. Belief are generally not chosen by people, they emerge out of the nature and nurture. It is what the animal part of psyche decides is certainly provable through experience (but also what is advantageous! - see the next point).

5. The inner mind of most humans has a system of blockages in place to protect itself from beliefs that are aligned with experience and provable, but are not advantageous. We may call these people irrational or delusional, but is it really wise to do if we consider the whole of belief systems?

6. The nature of beliefs is such that they always spread themselves through their hosts. For example, they're being spread by me right now in this post, and so does everyone writing anything on this board. It feels good to do so, don't you agree? Eg. someone reading this post may feel urge to either approve or attack the points. It depends of the belief structures they have in place. Less impulsive beings or beings with less masculine active life-force may just be calmly reading and dissecting the validity of the information in their mind without any urges to approve/disprove (fight for the narrative).

7. Sometimes the mind decides to run one huge belief-modifying program on its own, without help of any external substances. It often happens to people with late stage depression. In one moment of enlightenment, most of their belief systems undergo a tremendous change. Newly installed beliefs are usually more efficient than the previous ones.

8. All awareness, belief systems, ideas (including this one) are structures built on top of other, seemingly not-related structures. One of such structures from which other grow out is the "up and down" dichotomy (which is an illusion, as up and down are silly human constructs). And yet, all of our belief systems depends on this construct. Our perception is then a hyper-structure, an incredibly tall tower of "delusions" all the way down.

9. Beliefs have fundamental purposes eg. to provide safety, survival value, stability for their host (their believer) and other advantages.

10. It's the belief systems that generate the matrix in which we live in. The sensitive and intuitive mind of a poet may personalize the matrix as some kind of demiurge or aliens, but in the end it doesn't matter how we call and whether it's self-imposed or not. It's just semantics and again, it's a matter of belief. Once you understand the nature of belief, you're not going to waste resources playing belief games with your mind. It does matter, however, if the spiritual mode of perception could help one understand the matrix better. Then of course it's better to use the belief framework that assumes demiurge. Whatever works.

11. Belief systems are deeply interconnected with the territorial and tribalist power dynamics inside every man. In other words, a man wants to spread what he believes because it makes him high on power and could benefit his tribe.

Seeker 2016-12-01 19:40:27 No.10540

12. all desire emerges from belief systems

A psychoanalyst would say that desires emerge out of primordial desires (to survive, to be complete). However, what if someone doesn't have such desires? It surely is because the person's belief system doesn't put importance on survival. For example, he starts to believe survival or reproduction doesn't really make any sense.

Seeker 2016-12-02 08:45:19 No.10551 >>10557

If you still think belief holds power, I'd wager that your ego is weak, your pride is arrogance, and that you are full of self doubt. Belief holds power over you, your belief does not hold power over others.

Seeker 2016-12-02 13:22:10 No.10557 >>10567

>>10551

If magick is emotional and mental, and your beliefs decide how you think and feel, then belief is incredibly powerful,

Seeker 2016-12-02 18:09:51 No.10567 >>10603

>>10557

No, YOU are power, belief is a measure of your confidence. If you believe you will fail, you probably will. Ever read the little engine that could? FFS, this is why you are all so weak.

Seeker 2016-12-02 23:01:00 No.10603 >>10751

>>10567

This is a BELIEF that "beliefs hold no power".

You meant "Beliefs hold no power except that one belief that says beliefs hold no power"

How can I make my animal self acknowledge such nonsensical paradox as a belief?

Seeker 2016-12-04 19:03:51 No.10751

>>10603

Deductions are not beliefs.