Hello all. I am making this thread to possibly arrange the start of multiple individuals practicing the esoteric arts living together in some sort of fashion.
I have barely put together any details, mainly looking for some outside opinions on this. Back on fringechan there was a thread dedicated to something similar, but nothing came about.
A few ideas would be basically that this group would have a large plot of land and presumably do farming and the keeping of animals. No need to consume disgusting food injected full of hormones and other garbage.
Assuming we all agreed upon a common concept, and perhaps a leader, our combined power could quickly manifest our goal with little to no problems in a quick amount of time.
Feel free to brainstorm and throw out suggestions in this thread.

LARP thread

>>906
I like the idea of growing my own food. "Mages" living together not so much. If you thought regular people are difficult...

I fully support your idea but you're gonna have A LOT of difficulties along the way. Shills, finances, etc, but if you do go through with it and coordinate it well with leadership, you can do it.

>>If you thought regular people are difficult

>tidy up the library after you
>"I'm just going to finish these books first."

>scrub the summoning tower after you're done
>"Its just going to become dirty again anyway."

>eat the veggies
>"I'm tired of this, I demand a cheeseburger!"

>wash your plates
>using plates

>HYGIENE ANON
>"FLUORIDE! WATER HURTS MY SKIN!"

>someones succubus is raiding the sleeping halls
>"Whatever."

>>921

>>"I'm tired of this, I demand a cheeseburger!"

> implying that's a big deal if it's only occasional

>>"Its just going to become dirty again anyway."

> not being spiritual enough to be grounded/not recognizing "as without, so within"

>>"FLUORIDE! WATER HURTS MY SKIN!"

>not using a filter/distillation that's cheap compared to making a community

look out, we've got a problem solver over here.

>breaking news
>nearly a dozen occultist have been killed on a commune by one of their members who had a psychotic break
>reporters say that he said quote "Eris told me to kill them, I had to do it. They were degenerate bluepills. I think they were working for Omran maybe too. Will I be on tv?"

>>933
>who had a psychotic break
>not on permanent psychosis
Neophytes

>>933
>Worshiping "eris" in any way, shape, or form
Neophyte.

If any other wizards want to "work" together and acquire some land/housing for ourselves just sent me an astral message.

>>934
>>935
Watch your back mundies.

nuthin personnel

>>937
patrician meme

I wouldn't mind doing this some time in the future when I've magicked some riches, but it would be in the desert, somewhere far, faar off from everything, maybe some nice mountains, maybe some caves, maybe close to the shore...

Large scale use of orgonite & other tricks to terraform it into a suitable climate.

Desert is cheap.

For people considering this, I think it would be best to start with learning some basic agriculture or permaculture if you are up to it and getting some land. At the very least in most places that are not Monsanto's private playpen (the US) there is farmland for rent you can get cheap.
Get some experience growing something. It is surprisingly satisfactory. Try to live that kind of life on your own if you don't already before trying to combine it with cohabitation with other psychos.

>>943
>starting with the boring stuff

Booring! No, I say we start with an elaborate tunnel network in hopes of finding inner earth and mining diamonds to trade for crystals.

>>966
Actually that sounds like a great idea.
What better place for wizards to live then the inner earth?

Anybody got any good books on farming and agriculture? My only experience with farming is Minecraft and I don't think that'll cut it

>>966
>Not mining moldavite to trade for moar moldavite
Get on my level plebian

>>933
>I HAVE GUN

>>976
Mundies watch out!

Librarians/Archivists commune -> Wizard's Guild && Warrior's Guild

>>982
t. armchair

>>982
>>988
>taking LARP seriously

>>991
>Not forming an online ironclad opsec network of wizards in secrecy for concerted magical efforts, research and development
>Not ritualistically purifying the purpose of the Spire group and pledging oaths as Knights of the Magi.
>Not mastering the material world with deep study of all STEM
>Not combining this with the arcane for Magitech Engineering
>Not founding a University for Magi
>Not founding a Nation for Magi

>Being a pleb

THOUGH TO BE REAL PHAMALAMPHLIMPHLAM I WOULD HAVE A PACK OF WOLVES TO GO GANGSTER AND DESCEND INTO AND UNLOCK ALL THE CHAKRAS BELOW THE ROOT.
ANIMAL SPHERE YO. ANIMUS AND ANIMA. I would unlock all that shit. Fuck the rest, we're developing all that shit. Red is at the top in THIS wizard's hovel, and we're getting under it; Shades of Brown and Black and Red is all we'll know. Hunting and fishing, fighting, fucking, drinking, reaching for power, we'll unlock it all 100% because wizard's don't pussy out when Satan shows up as a seven headed dragon and a hot succubi is masturbating with one of his horns. OPERATION TAME AND CUCK SATAN

>>906
Yeahhhhh....... Shades of Brown in the legs for the Animal Sphere and Shades of Black in the feet for the Lich sphere... Hands go down to the thigh, so I guess that's part of the Animal Sphere when they're 'diggin in the dirt'. Shades of whatever the blue version of brown is for the Shaman Sphere. Specialize in that shit until it's siddhi-tier.

>>1007

tell me more/give a book pls.

Where would the Shaman Sphere be?

>>1004
>Magitech Engineering

*FF6 Magitek Factory theme*
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=bq_Qf3mVnCo

>>1004
OK. my dick is hard. What now?

>>1037

release the energy with the intent to manifest it happening!

you could masturbate to the idea but releasing semen tends to be counter-productive

Wouldn't it be a good idea to join the /pol/ project from meguca?
Someone is buying land for a /pol/ colony, interests should overlap. If you go there, lurk before posting and don't be cancer pls, no one likes new people.

>>1103
In general I'm not sure teaming up with /pol/ is something I'd enjoy. It's too disparate a group. You never know what you'll get.
In any case, I don't have a good tolerance for autism, being highly autistic myself sometimes.

>>1103
>living with /Paul/
No thanks, lel

>>1153
Forgot pic

Yeah let's do it. It may be my only real way to escape mundanes since I have no other connections. I don't fear hard work as long as it's only with other wizards for other wizards and for our own community. In fact I'd do anything just to get away from mundane world and being able to practice my art, study and meditate among fellow occultists.

>>1207
That's cool and all, but I wouldn't want to be near when you realize the mundane world you tried to escape was actually inside each one of us all along. It's never pretty.

>>1210
I don't understand, explainironi

>>1210
Do you mean that he'd never even known about, let alone be bothered by normalfags had he not have at least a hint of normalfag deep inside him that attracts that kind of reality?

>>1228
Indirectly yes. What I meant is that mundanity is a degree. Nobody is fully "awake" because otherwise you wouldn't have incarnated. Everyone is mundane to somebody.
Therefore if a group of people join together to be away from mundanes, they're in for a surprise, mundanity being a relative quality, when they find mundanes among them claiming they are not so.

The only way I'd agree to work with other fringetards would be to create an expedition pic related.

>>1230
>Fringetards
Who hurt you?

Dice: IFAG, lel

>>1229
Ah, yeah I know what you mean, when my brother started getting into shamanic shit and astral projection I was kinda excited cause I thought I'd be getting a /fringe/bro but in real life and everything would be like IRL /fringe/ from then on out, but I quickly realized that wasn't how it'd play out considering meditation usually at the most takes up about 50% of my day, and even then, most magic just looks like someone sleeping so it wouldn't really be like any College of Winterhold shit. So then I realized that living with /Fringe/bros is probably more like living with a chill stoner but less degenerate and you can talk to them about wizard shit, and even then there might be someone who's into all the bed-of-nails ascetic shit but I highly doubt that. Still way better than any normalfag living, and not having to run the rat-race and living off fresh sustenance-farmed plants is it's own reward

>>1232
>50% of my day
Jesus Christ dude. I need to step my shit up.

>>1210
I aknowledge that everyone of us still has mundane aspects about him and sometimes behaves in mundane ways. That's ok. It's about reducing the mundane. Living in a community with wizards still would be much better than living with degenerates. I never intended to remove the mundane completely since I doubt that's possible being incarnate on 4D earth.

Being in a community of likeminded people away from the matrix ratrace and degenerate behaviour is highly appreciated.

Well wizbros I've had for about 2 months now an apprenticeship with a guy in a monopoly trade who rakes in 6 figures every year, feels good man. I'm thinking if all goes right when I start my own business in said market I'm gonna build some apartments and rent 'em out to some normalfags, and I'm thinking in a good 10 years I could very easily be a multi-millionaire wizard. If karma would dictate so I'm thinking I could definitely pitch-in on this project if you guys are still up for it by then, or, shit, if Fringebay even lasts that long, hopefully I guess.

>>1235
>>1234
Keep in mind though when I say this I only mean the time I'm up, - shit/eat time, but yeah I've tried very hard to completely replace my mundane life with magic wizshit, 50% is the closest I usually come to the sun before I start getting a little crazy, and yeah technically "crazy" is just really astrally awake but, I mean I start talking to the walls n shit. Heh, good times...

>>1235
Damn, didn't type this one out,

>Being in a community of likeminded people away from the matrix ratrace and degenerate behaviour is highly appreciated.
For real bro, like I said my brother's a beginning shaman and while he's still kind of a cyborg druggie, I can still talk to him about magic shit and sometimes we do some cool stuff like blessing peoples' rooms and group astral projection, so alot like living with Tipp I'd imagine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZX5B_p79V4

>>1284
Definitely hit me up if you make it. I will be up for it. I'll keep Fringebay going even if it's totally ded bort.

Washington or Oregon perhaps.
If Canada, Edmonton would be best option.. in terms of general location that is..

>>1319
What about us yuropoor?
USA looks like a terrible police state from here tbh. I don't want to go there

>>1292
Thanks, yeah I've talked to a few connections and I could definitely do it, they told me the hard part in landlording apartments is the discipline to save enough money over the years to expand and profit, but shit I'm already inheriting a house and only ever eat carrots, beans and rice and shit thanks to Taoism, and the only things I even do on a daily basis is shitposting and meditating so I'm pretty much golden. Now what they said was that it takes about 15 years to start profiting, but after that 15 year rutt the money starts pouring in even if you go neetmode n shit

>>1322
Andorra

>>1292
>Plant music... plant - music
my God, I didn't realize, thanks man, that's beautiful.

AAAAAHHH My captcha was literally 3DPD lelelelelel shadilay, shadilay!

>>1329
Shadilay!

Obviously fascism and right wing racial communities would be ideal for a cultural revolution today. But the problem with such ideals is that none of such communities would never have an ideal to strive for in Esoterics nor anyone to intiate or lead into such organized paths- for none of people of this time have lost the tradition of passing on lineages from teacher to student, word to mouth. Thus missing the analog feeling of intiation and tradition of the various schools of Esoteric thought. Thus creating a need for self intiation based off of internet or books, without a teacher. A right wing community full of pollacks would go nowhere for they would have no Esoteric lineage. A group of random people off fringe with random assorted "magical" abilities would go nowhere living together because they wouldn't be basing themselves off a collective tradition. Instead of a group of people off fringe all basing themselves off of a Tendai sect and then living together, or two or three collective schools of thought with a solid background and analog intiation into each. Just a thought

Also I use to have a tupla- but that vein of thought is the reason Brits don't have ary spirits nor angels floating around their land anymore, it's degenerated into images with personalities applied to them without the traditonal angels, belltower stone spirits, mermaids and the like.
Another note on a community of pollacks or the like, even if they did succeed they would still be mundies- without a lineage or no upwards Esoteric force.
The Third Reich was great but it's Esotericism boiled back into some Chilean writer who wasn't apart of the Third Reich. Also they never even were able to enter the astral realm. Just strict veins of a Thulean Ubermensch type of thought, that awakened racial awareness on a national level. I'm pro Nazi Germany just not for what Hitlerism has turned into. All of the main posters on /pol/ are American yet study the politics coresponding to a small nation known as Nazi Germany and try to apply the politics to the sphere of America without studying the founding fathers- instead. And yet Oregon alone is bigger than Germany.
>im aware of spelling errors no bully

Just concepts- no room for me to judge to be honest
I know more than few here are actually intiates.

>>1476
But Britain does have spirits. Everywhere there's land, there's spirits. Their culture might have forgotten their names, but the rivers, hills and animals have their totems and are doing their business. And of course plenty of lowly entities feeding off of the herd made up by barely human people with no spiritual education or tradition whatsoever, as you pointed out.
I believe Nazi Germany was part of an op along with Soviet Russia instigated and funded by the same heartless hand, resulting in the world we have today. All the people that lived and fought for it, including Hitler, were tools that didn't fully realize how much they were being manipulated in the best of cases (see Hermann Rauschning, August Kubizek and Dietrich Eckhart remarks about Hitler in this regard).
There are magical and spiritual traditions very much alive (or dying, in some cases) in Southern Europe, Southeast Asia, some parts of Africa. Those in South America, Asia, Russia and elsewhere are rapidly decaying. The world is overrun by parasites that depend on us having no clue about how the spiritual world works. So there, we're being terraformed and fed upon by creatures that are in most cases not as half as intelligent as we are because of our hubris.

>>1479
Japan in my opinion, is the last land left with full believe in Buddhas and the spirits of land, Nagas, Dragons, Fox Spirits and the like. Always love Japan, afterall in maps in the 1500s Japan and Oregon use to be connected through land.

>>1479
Bloomsbury group are the root of evil pretty much everywhere. 1600s-1700s where their formation years in London. They were the ones to began enforcing false stamp acts upon the American Colonists along with overthrowing the actual real news currents from Britian.

>>1481
I know nothing of this group. Please tell me more or where I can read more.

>>1482
Origins of the American Revolution
Little, Brown and Company

>>1483
Will check it out, thanks.

Wow nice thread, im actually making a spiritual permaculture village on 2 hectars of land I just bought in portugal. Here is the link, you dont need yo pay to join just send me a application form. Its ancap and spiritual/ magick oriented. Would ne awesome to work with dank wizards XD

https://www.patreon.com/user?u=6572532
But come in may its raining now.

>>1495
Sounds very nice, but are you sure Portuguese law will let you do all that with the land? Please keep us updated. I don't think I'll be able to move permanently any time soon, but I live close enough for dropping by for a week or two even several times a year.

Returning back to my old Chaote roots for a bit, from around age 15. My only problem is my enviroment not being assumed to a form catering to wizardly matters. I use to live with 6 other people in their late teens and twenties. We would draw random sigils all over the garage floor and door while job hopping to pay for psychonautic drug abuse in extremes. I was the only wizard there but still it was the best evocation of Chaos within a group I've seen- no rules, just loud music, heavy /vidya/, parties weekly, sex, and heavy Chaos and disorder resting upon everyones subconscious. It was an abbey of thelema except with with just pure chaos magick riding everyones subconscious. Towards the end it got extreme and 3 out of the six of us were jailed for felonies. I'm still recovering to be quite frank but was fucking awesome, I still yearn to return that situation, but I doubt such a perfect oppurtunity will arise again.

Returning back to my old Chaote roots for a bit from around age 15. My only problem is my enviroment not being assumed to a form catering to wizardly matters. I use to live with 6 other people in their late teens and twenties. We would draw random sigils all over the garage floor and door while job hopping to pay for psychonautic drug abuse in extremes. I was the only wizard there but still it was the best evocation of Chaos within a group I've seen- no rules, just loud music, heavy /vidya/, parties weekly, and heavy Chaos and disorder resting upon everyones subconscious. It was an abbey of thelema except with with just pure chaos magick riding everyones subconscious. That's my experience living with a younger group of people with myself being the only Wizard there. Just one of my experiences. Also one of the only ways, if the only way, to push emotional boundaries past human limits in the current Kali Yuga, due to every other lifrstyle being zog'd out.

>>1496
Check out 8chan fringe for more in-depth information
https://8ch.net/fringe/res/117135.html#117312

Anyone in the Cascades?

Anyone in the Cascades?

>>1498
>it was the best evocation of Chaos within a group I've seen- no rules, just loud music, heavy /vidya/, parties weekly, and heavy Chaos and disorder resting upon everyones subconscious.
Are you fucking shitposting?

>>1495
What about Northwest Columbia? I believe my goal is to live with fellow wizards from here on out.

>>1810
Columbia is g o a t

Ya know what we should do guys? Considering just how many of us are going off-grid and cultivating innawoods we should try to keep contact with each other's camps and kinda have it like a network of different /Fringe/ Temples. That way we could all coordinate into maybe even a global scale operation. I for one suggest once everyone gets settled down in.a few years we should just keep a /Fringe/Temple general or something to talk about innawoods things and share farming tips and such

>>1968
Gather information on homeless living aswell, we will need to go into town to gather supplies. Some cash can be made by asking bars for their cans, general labour, drug trafficking, and like matters. Honestly we need to start meeting in person soon, rituals and operations would be much more corrdinated.

>>1988
Coordinated.

>mfw I am currently buying two hectares of farming land/woods but it is only welcome to those who praise Franz Bardon

Although if someone is genuinely interested to come & fits this criteria, just search for an invalid chat invitation and tell me about it.

>>2228
It's hard not to praise Franz Bardon. Meaning you let any larper in.
You should ask for confirmation of attainment instead. Unless you haven't attained much, that is.

>>2229
>Meaning you let any larper in.

I believe those who truly praise Bardon with honesty follow the IIH path and do not larp.
I am not seeking an elite force or something, as long you desire to follow/is following the IIH path and love nature a lot, it should be ok.

>>2229
Anyway as you can see in my original post, I didn't leave a link but I left cues on how to find which acts as the first filter.
Obviously any reasonable person would get to know at least a minimum any person she would let come on her land. By the way, this land is in west europe.

>>1989
If you can't make and sell reliable 15-18% booze, don't even think about trying to run any drugs. tbqh if you use a hybrid of modern chemistry and alchemy to make some next level LSD, you might have some dice

>>906
>Back on fringechan there was a thread
http://fringebay.com/archive/fringe/517#517
Thread in question.

I have still help this intention near to my heart, and while I may have not seen physically manifest fruits I know beyond any shadow of a doubt the emanations of intention-energy must take form, now or then. And such a thing is perhaps just so far removed from the (then) present that many things need to happen first to allow such a thing to fall into place.

>>910
>If you thought regular people are difficult...
Ideally it's not a house full of newfaggots neophytes and they have at least some level of self control/mastery so their not triggering each other all the time.

>>936
Sent.

>>939
>Large scale use of orgonite & other tricks to terraform it into a suitable climate.
This. I've seen some fantastic things, that are basically just (now) forgotten druidism.

>>974
>good books on farming and agriculture?
Why not Permaculture? This is the classical text on the subject.
>PERMACULTURE. A Designers' Manual - Bill Mollison
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=F6885D2344206BFC12ACAC4834A7D654

>>1284
> if Fringebay even lasts that long
It may, it may not, but /fringe/ is eternal. We shall always find another home, it's the nature of the chans.

>>1475
As long as all (or at least overwhelmingly) the people are of one volk, or at absolute minimum genetic neighbors, different practices going in won't matter in the long run, magic is very strong in the blood, and that will become self evident in years time.

>>1495
Blessings eurobro.

>>1968
>capitalizing /fringe/
Ok, autism aside, I do like your idea.

>>1988
>homeless living skills
Good stuffs for living outside of society, or on the fringe of it (like camping in the woods outside of town with your hermitage in the pristine of nature). I've done such for years, it's far superior to living behind walls in a human hive with degenerates in every direction. It also has the added benefit that, if you're far out enough not even the authorities will mess with you (assuming you keep it low key/small scale) as they will be more impressed by your survival skills and respect for the land and if some random person who is also outdoors that far out happens across your place they would also likely have a respect for nature to be that far out, and thus life, and at worst wouldn't rob you/destroy stuff and at best way be open to (nature) magic.

>drug trafficking
Unless it's a psychedelic I would extremely emphatically advise against any such thing, not good karma even if it's easy money. Now shrooms (the easiest thing to have/produce in said situation) or the like, it's another story, however I personally still have a bit of an aversion to selling medicine, I would rather barter/trade than sell, but I'm kinda hardcore.

>>2923
>tbqh if you use a hybrid of modern chemistry and alchemy to make some next level LSD
We need real wizards, or even better, real covens/colleges of wizards making this stuff. It could be 1000% more potent than stuff made by the mundane fry kids. It could actually very well be so potent that it could not be taken by the uninitiated, or at least at 5% dosages (still being "balls to the wall" tier for them).

I know that all the LSD I've encountered (which is perhaps the highest energy of all the psychedelics I've encountered), even hundreds of doses effects me little -- I get far more mileage from crystals, breath work, mantras, and yoga that I ever did from most psychedelics. For this reason I believe they are great initation tools, but as far as medicine for the accomplished shaman, you need shamanic doses to be effective (and also sacrament level purity as well).

Things like this exist already. There are monks who build their own monastery and they breed dogs for living. Here's a link to the whole thing, I'm to lazy to give more info:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG4rkBqePwk