*Infinite Flat Plane Physical Realm*: Countless half sphere worlds like ours existing next to each others on the flat physical plane, ad infinitum (like an infinite bubble wrap tape where each bubbles are different worlds). Worlds being physically joint but separated by a surrounding wall of ice and the firmament which prevent seeing the adjacent worlds skies and easily going to the adjacent world.

We know the spiritual realms are infinite so as above so below for the physical realm. Although we know that the modern scientific's model is bullshit (the whole globe model thing) so all that is left to allow both infinite scaling and flat plane is pic related.

Interesting theory, it definitely sounds better than what (((they))) shill to us 24/7. Sounds like what the ancient Greeks and Persians thought tbh. I love how you theorize the borders of the firmament are made of solid ice, like the ice caps! Ebin thread tbh fam

At least it's a new theory and doesn't give off that annoying shill feel.
I personally think the world is subjective and the whole earth vs sun & stars perception as a model is false. We are in this dimension looking at it from our own view and the sun is really extremely small and never further away than around 400 meters. Trying to apply the physical understanding and measurements used for building things and measuring distances on the ground for phenomena of a completely seperate nature is a huge logical mishap.

>we know that the modern scientific's model is bullshit
Do we? Can you actually find an empirical measurement that contradicts that model or that it can’t explain? The globe is perfectly consistent with observations and experiments of this earth as well as any other body we see out there.
I can consider comsological theories such as the electric universe or many theories of the actual topology and creation of the universe. But the shape ofnthe earth? I’ve tried to disprove it and couldn’t. The only way to do so is to declare all researchers in the world and most of history are in on it, which makes inquiry impossible anyway.

>>2126
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedford_Level_experiment
>The first experiment at this site was conducted by Rowbotham in the summer of 1838. He waded into the river and used a telescope held eight inches (20 cm) above the water to watch a boat, with a flag on its mast three feet (0.91 m) above the water, row slowly away from him.[3] He reported that the vessel remained constantly in his view for the full six miles (9.7 km) to Welney bridge, whereas, had the water surface been curved with the accepted circumference of a spherical earth, the top of the mast should have been some 11 feet (3.4 m) below his line of sight. He published this observation using the pseudonym Parallax in 1849 and subsequently expanded it into a book, Earth Not a Globe, published in 1865.[4]

After failing to disprove this experiment they came up with the term "atmospheric refraction" which has since been used to dismiss any references to this and similar experiments. Of course it's just mental gymnastics to maintain the globe model, similar to how any experiences of spirits visiting a person at night is now dismissed as "sleep paralysis" with no further investigation.

The experiment has been successfully done again several times, with green laser.

>inb4 photos from space
Yeah you mean those that NASA admitted are stitched together from many small satellite images? If nothing else it's high suspicious that the colour of the earth keeps changing, the size and placements of continents change depending on what photo you look at as well as obvious photoshop copies of cloud formations showing up 3 times in the same image, still claimed to be legit space photos by NASA.

>It is easier to make people believe a big lie and than a small
to paraphrase Hitler.

>>2126
Globe earth is honestly bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93PTHLW0FIs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

>>2125
Well, "one dome" is our world but then I thought, how would it look if the physical plane was infinite, we are not seeing other suns in our sky and we know that one sun can't work with an infinite physical plane based on current observations of the sun's behavior. So the picture I drew is what I imagine what would be the infinite physical realm. Basically like human cells repeating indefinitely but each of them are separated by the firmament (kinda like some some cosmic blood that ancients called the aether) and a wall of ice due to the sun's pathway.See pic related, like that ad infinitum.

>>2127
You deny atomspheric refraction exists? I mean, you can say anything that disproves your theory to be "made up bullshit", but that's just fitting the facts to the data and not the other way around.
I wasn't talking about NASA's pictures, but to the fact that the current cosmology is able to predict star positions and planetary movement, eclipses and asteroid trayectories in a way no other model can. When you find a model that can predict reality more accurately without resorting to "it's all a lie", I'll consider it.

>>2129
Ancient people also did that yet they did it with a flat earth model in mind and it worked fine (sailors/adventurers notably). You have a bias in favor of the NSA right there.

>>2130
*NASA, not NSA

>>2129
You are posting on /fringe/ here, so the occult and unusual explanation will be the standard, not science. The logic used to explain what you see only proves that humans have an ability to create stable systematic models and can mentally suppress conflicting information.

I was very clear in my previous post >>2125
that I consider the perception of the world beyond the concrete plane you can physically touch and walk on, to be an illusion. The sun may be personal, each person seeing their own sun within their own universe, and the stars seen seem to correspond to what other people see becuase humans are pretty similar. Some claims I've seen support this, such as someone saying you can always see the side of the moon not lit by the sun during the day. This is factually false, the moon I see only has the lit side visible during daytime, the rest is perfectly blue and inseperable from the background.

The definining moment for me was when I attempted to find the so called "overlook effect" through meditation, as any mental state can be achieved, but this was not possible. In the end I created a spell to guide me to find this "overlook effect", but what I found was something else. I was lead out to a field of sand in the woods, and a spiritual being appeared and said
>what you see here is all there is, you asked the wrong question
and I looked at it and realised my assumption that the earth can be seen as a globe from the moon was false. It was a moment of enlightenment, I had only trusted these ideas and accepted them, but never really understood why this would be true. The more I looked after that I saw that people are not drawing this "conclusion" from facts, but they are being told the earth is a globe, and anyone saying otherwise it told they're dumb and bullied until the fall in line. That's the reality of it.

I will have to stick with not knowing if the earth even has a shape, it's good enough for me to know that the official conception is false. I'm leaning towards the explanation that we are on an endless plane and other planets are other dimentions seen from outside, which is why they look round. If you enter them they're endless planes too. This way heaven and hell could very well exist as endless planes above and below and it all makes sense with my spiritual experiences.

>>2134
The word "planet" literally comes from the latin "is flat". It's funny that people are contradicting themselves when they talk about planets thinking it's a globe.
https://translate.google.com/?hl=fr#en/la/is%20flat.

Sun/moon/stars are celestial objects, not something you can walk on.

>>2130
Ancient navigators just used the stars as signposts. You can’t find an ancient prediction of an eclipse or planetary conjunction that used a flat earth model to do that prediction. There simply isn’t a method to do so.
Don’t tell me I have a NASA bias. I couldn’t care less about government agencies. Find me an astrological system that relies on a flat earth. And explain why constellations are different in both hemispheres.

>>2134
>thinking in dual terms
I know I’m on fringe. What I’d like to know is where the hell you came from.
It’s a rethorical question. I’m not going to keep indulging ths psyop for truther mundanes. Argue with someone else.

>>2135
Planeta/planetes is Greek and means wanderer. You really can’t lecture me on languages. Just... look it up please. But as I said, I’m the fuck out of this thread.

Please keep /x/ tier mundane bullshit out of fringe.

>>2134
>the rest is perfectly blue and inseperable from the background
That's simply because it's as dark as the rest of the sky. You see the lit part because it "pierces through" the blue light in the atmosphere. In pic related you can actually notice what I'm talking about. Same with the stars vs the sun. The stars aren't bright enough to be seen through the scattered light in the atmosphere during the day.

By the way, did you know that in the flat earth model (and any model), in order to explain why the sky is blue, you need light refraction, which in turn debunks the Bedford Level experiment? Yes, that's right. While trying to defend the flat earth model you automatically debunk it.

https://wonderopolis.org/wonder/why-is-the-sky-blue

>i made a spell and a spirit told me so
Please ask that spirit to tell you how to predict an eclipse thousands of years in advance without resorting to the globe model. You can't do it. I dare you prove me wrong.

>>2139
>lazy logo with a letter
>apollo arrow derived logo
>symbol of spiritual empowerment signifying the bringing of the divine
>being the same at all
Yes, I agree it's a symbol with certain connotations, but those three have nothing to do with each other. NASA is a Masonic Apollo cult. Absolutely nothing to do with anarchism or the inverted pentagram which means spirit to the service of matter

>>2135
>the word means flat so the thing is flat
Does that make you an idiot by virtue of me calling you that?

>>2140
You can literally draw anything you want on a map by choosing the right points.

>If you want to maintain a huge lie, you need a huge power source.
Are you fucking drunk? What is that supposed to mean? If you want to maintain a huge lie, you control the narrative by using money. Flat earth is nothing but part of a disinformation campaign to keep people distracted with bullshit.

That pentagram is shit btw. You should've chosen better positions for the points of muh ebil nazi symbol.

>>2141

>>2141
> If you want to maintain a huge lie, you control the narrative by using money. Flat earth is nothing but part of a disinformation campaign to keep people distracted with bullshit.
Consider me dumbfounded. Where are you from? How did you find this thread? Are you people keeping track of every little splinter chan to jump in and earn your cents when you get the chance? Absolutely amazing.

Nowhere did I say I have any opinion on the shape of the earth, other then that is ISN'T a globe, and you're instantly assuming I admit to the "flat earth model" out of the blue.

>>2145
>Consider me dumbfounded. Where are you from? How did you find this thread? Are you people keeping track of every little splinter chan to jump in and earn your cents when you get the chance? Absolutely amazing.
I won't tell you where I'm from, but I can tell you how I found this thread: I wrote the software for this site and maintain it with Easygoing. And I'm pissed because flat earth posters turn everything they touch into a fucking shitposting mess.
We're paying for this site out of our own pockets, btw. It's a cheap site, but if anything it exists thanks to our money. Also, I went out of my way to try to make it difficult to index, archive and find precisely to avoid what you're accusing me of.
Check my post though. I explained the whole visibility of the moon business, debated you on the logos and on the fact that you can find almost any symbol on a map by choosing which points to join. I didn't assume you believe the earth is flat. I only mentioned flat earth when addressing the Bedford Level experiment, which you mentioned earlier. I'm OK with the Earth having whatever shape it wants, and yes, NASA lies through their teeth.

>>2123
Also, you know what I believe? Memes aside. That there is an effort going on to find imageboards and simply disrupt them by using shitposting, and that includes flat earth posting. OP tried to use Reddit's formatting to make *bold text*. What are the chances of someone getting here directly from Reddit without going through 8ch at least?
OP is fishy as fuck.

>>2127
>After failing to disprove this experiment they came up with the term "atmospheric refraction"
>>2128
>we will show that the air refracts and bends in the air

Flat Earther thereby disproving the Belford Level experiment while trying to demonstrate the Earth is flat. Bravo.

I'm sorry, this thread really got under my skin. I will now hide it leave you to it.

>>2149
Your post still reads like a standard shill post in a flat earth thread. There's this thing; when you try bringing up anything remotely related, it's instantly divided along this line of science vs flat earth fundamentalism and it's making it impossible to discuss the topic.

I honestly believe the earth is not a globe, and I explained clearly why. I'm interested in this topic from a view of placing our physical dimension in a greater view of many different dimensions, higher and lower. The common conception that we're on this spinning ball is getting in the way.

You could also look into the pentagram and what it really is and you'd see that there really is a "thing" there and it's being used for things like I suggested. The shape is a pentagram and using similar shapes is how they draw in the energy from it. I'd expect people on this board to have some small ability to sense these things, but seeing as the arguments are all of a mundane nature with no indication of openmindedness, I guess it's a futile effort even here.

Maybe it really is time to ditch imageboards for purposes other than anime funposting.

>>2149
>Newfags can't into HTML

>>2152
I'm sorry I went nuclear. I will try to stay away from this thread.
>Your post still reads like a standard shill post in a flat earth thread
Because, in my opinion, those are not "shill posts". They are extremely emotional people (like me) being extremely emotional (like me). That's why both sides think the posters debating them are paid shills. They all behave the same way.
>I'd expect people on this board to have some small ability to sense these things
I'm way too insensitive to energy or whatever you want to call it.

>>2153
No, you need to edit the database directly.

>>2156
>I'm way too insensitive to energy or whatever you want to call it.
I'll leave this thread alone, seeing as it wasn't started with honest intentions. I treat everything as spiritual and I trust my own experiences and spiritual beings over anything a human or human science tells me. It's very simple, while society has failed again and again to answer my questions, spritiual beings have provided me with accurate and applicable guidance for years. I no longer listen to what people say, I ask myself
>what being is controlling them and what is that being's agenda?
and it often comes down to something infernal after researching it.

I'm treating it as my goal to basically stop using my physical eyes and only trust in what my astral perception of the world tells me, because physical reality is too infested with illusion.

>>2150
I read but I never post.but this time I posted to know what people would think about my theory. Don't assume I am the Reddit boogieman or paid shill, it was a genuine post. Why would they want to shit up your imageboard? It seems to me that regular users alone are mostly the ones responsible as they form the majority of am I wrong?

By the way regarding the Earth not being a globe, anyone has points to refute concerning this video youtube.com/watch?v=93PTHLW0FIs?

>>2169
Sorry for the typos, I wrote too fast on a tablet.

>>2169
It's pretty good. There were a couple of mistakes/fallacies, like claiming that the speed of light is not accurate because it is calculated in the atmosphere, when it is clearly stated that c corresponds to the speed of light in vacuum (also the fastest possible it can have) and it can be measured in the ISS (if you accept it exists, etc.). But in general is very much above the usual flat earth youtubers.

The problem with every flat earth argument there is and ever will be, is that they don't disprove the globe. They never present a measurement that empirically leads one to conclude the earth cannot be round (unless they claim it's a conspiracy, which is not a good method to find the truth). All they do is prove that you can project any measurement done in a globe model using polar projection, and it still checks out.

Finding alternate explanations to a working theory does not disprove that theory. Much less if that theory provides a workable model to predict the future.

Meanwhile, there actually are empiric observations that cannot be explained using the flat model. How do constellations work? Why are there two distinct skies in both hemispheres? How do eclipses work? And where are the observations to prove it?

I spent about 3 months researching the flat earth model, wanting it to be true (the weirder the world, the more interesting your life). But in the end the fact is that, yes, something is going on. Agencies lie left and right. Reality and the world is not what we've been told (from an esoteric point of view, that's obvious). But flat earth is not it. What that suggests is that flat earth is a distraction. Maybe it's intentional, or maybe it's just the explanation around which people who noticed something was not right gather, to their detriment.

>>2171
I think it's the complete opposite. The holocaust is a distraction to keep people from targeting the sphere earth idea. Adding "global warming was caused by humans" is just another smoke screen, to keep the real topics out of the everyday media and news discussions. One lie to cover up another lie, layer after layer.

Pic related Tintin comic is from 1952 and it's a VERY accurate prediction of the images from the "real" moon landing. It's almost like it's preparing people for easier acceptance of the idea.

>>2172
It's the same as with this "coincidence", the 6 mil figure is being mentioned waaay before WW2 and Hitler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

You can see for yourself here in the archive of old papers that it's real:
https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/results/?state=&date1=1836&date2=1922&proxtext=6000000+jews&x=11&y=17&dateFilterType=yearRange&rows=20&searchType=basic

Now why make this shit up?
Imo it's to hide the reality of the world consisting of earth, heaven and hell. If you say the earth is a globe, people are going to say
>see, there's no hell dimension below it and there's not heaven above, it's just the inside of the earth and space above
With this "proof" of materialism it's no problem leading people into sin, because they now think there is no reward or punishment after death.

This is the real meaning of the false "overview effect", the idea that you can see all there is while you're just human, and that the most narrowminded of atheists are the ones you should listen to.
I'm not going to say that this is to advocate for satanism, because it isn't. Satanism exists within the same worldview as other religions and actually rely on it, they just take up another stance.
Materialists who want to stay on earth, who wants to abuse and control humanity so they can live in luxury right there, those are the masterminds of all these lies.

>>2174
Lastly, I would have to ask: From where does the idea come, that the ground we walk on has a "shape"?
We can all see that terrain has shapes. So what's with this idea of a finite model, where it's assumed to be limited? This is where it's linking back to the OP (troll or not). Why would anyone think that the ground suddenly ends at one point? Why wouldn't it be infinite?
It really sounds like the only real reason is to keep people within this society, a mental prison telling them it's futile to run away, that there's nothing out there and no escape. Why else would anyone want to stay here and slave away for the benefit of the current rulers? They wouldn't, they'd demand that new land is explored and they wouldn't accept the idea of areas being overpopulated, housing shortage, lack of jobs etc.

The globe earth model achieves all of this, it's the real "matrix", a prison of the mind.

>>2175
OP here, since when proposing a theory is trolling? I was dead serious. I drew the picture of what I imagine would be an infinite plane. I don't know what the Earth is like but for me it is not a globe, just something flat, but I don't know if it is finite or infinite or a mix of both. One hand there is a finite number of big different kinds of cosmic powers but on the other hand the spiritual planes are infinite so I don't know how would "as above so below" applies on the physical plane here.

>>2177
I think that globular earth is solid but that the earth we're on is much larger and the section we're on isolated by a turned over fishbowl.

Literally a terrarium.

Its also most definitively hollow due to centrifugal force.

To fit the calculations, about eight times larger.

Re stars, they're strange.. All but the moving stars, planets in our solar system, are moving about, the rest are sitting put in the sky, revolving around the north star.

Moon & sun could be a reflection, there is evidence for that..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp6UkqIwVfk

Something is not as it should be.

>>ACTUAL FOOTAGE OF THE STARS AND PLANETS | "WANDERING STARS" as Captured by Curious Truth Seekers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNHU5KOI9lQ

>>2194
>To fit the calculations, about eight times larger.
Heh, interesting idea. It happens to coincide with what Isaac Asimov wrote in the book with letters exchanged between Freud and Einstein
>if everyone was to have the living standard of the USA, we'd need 8 planets, or reduce the population to 500 mil
Now it's obvious that the population reduction is in line with what the NWO people are aiming for. But lets say then that the planet is 8x today's size, then it's not needed, only redistribution of resources is.

This is basically similar to what I think, though not quite, since I prefer the infinite plane earth view.

Let me put it this way
>isn't it quite convenient for our current rulers that the earth is seen as very limited, and the only way to expand our living area, IS BY SPACE EXPLORATION

>A BUSINESS MONOPOLIZED BY GOVERNMENTS IN INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES
Weird coincidence too that the danish inventor Peter Madsen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Madsen
who's been aiming to build his own private spaceship, HAS NOW BEEN CONVICTED (framed??) FOR MURDER WITH NO SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE?

Just wow. What do they think of people? Do they think they'd fool any thinking individual with this shit? Try to gain private access to space, get locked away for life. No, not suspicious at all.

>>2196
I was fooled by that one too. In fact I posted it on 8ch or here. But then I found out that's actually how stars look like when you don't focus your telescope's lens properly.
I saw a video demonstrating this, but there's no way I can find it now. I think it was here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/astrophotography/

These are either all government agents, or actual amateurs. Whatever is going on with this planet or plane, stars and planets are real and don't look like underwater lights.

>>2142
>moon is transparent

there is also this issue.

>>2207
Light is perception. What it looks like to you and what it actually is are two different things.

>>2225
That sounds kinda bullshitty, can you back that up?

>>"The limit of what we can see is not based on distance, it's based on apparent size. Telescopes can see objects millions of miles away so long as the object is large enough to have a apparent diameter larger than the limiting resolution of the telescope. Just like how we can see a skyscraper from 5 miles away, but not a pigeon on top of said skyscraper. The skyscaper, although it is miles away, is large enough to have an apparent size greater than that of our eye's minimum resolution, so we can see it. The pigeon on the other hand is not visible, because it's too small to have an apparent size large enough to be seen by our eyes from that distance."

>>2336
>optical illusions, mirages, holograms, depth perception

what you see is light but the actual object may be different from your visual interpretation of it based on distance, observer, lightning conditions

>>2123
It could be like multiple people lying still while day long waves wash over them.

>>2123
Wouldn't our satelites see if there were other earths lined up against each other?
There's also a need to work out how the stars fit into this.

I think the Sefer Yetzirah contains a method of orienting oneself for travel by the appearance of the celestial sphere that forms an 'astral' plane between days.

>Ask yourself why astronauts train underwater
https://invidio.us/watch?v=Ywm1SxHtLUw
https://invidio.us/watch?v=6cwIeHpAUE0
https://invidio.us/watch?v=4514z--Zbfk
https://archive.is/SgifD
https://archive.is/TBS6J
https://archive.is/sbXKl
https://archive.is/G5WYp
https://archive.is/XtN49

>Ask yourself why algea was found on the international space station
https://archive.is/mFm80
https://archive.is/U5KZp
https://archive.is/zORm9
>"Traces of plankton and other microorganisms have been found living on the exterior of the International Space Station (ISS), according to Russian space officials. They claim the plankton were not carried there at launch - but are thought to have been blown there by air currents on Earth.

(Most other sources claim other separate experiments or mention something along the lines of an experiment involving algae carried to space intentionally, So this is not to be confused with the other case where algae was discovered in space by accident, algae that was not carried to space intentionally.)
https://archive.is/9ZKdt
https://archive.is/yhGxM
https://archive.is/YXFXP
https://archive.is/hJAaj
https://archive.is/HFDD1
https://archive.is/JseA3
https://archive.is/QjENV

>>3344
>Panspermia Theory
https://archive.is/he3CC
>Panspermia (from Ancient Greek πᾶν (pan), meaning 'all', and σπέρμα (sperma), meaning 'seed') is the hypothesis that life exists throughout the Universe, distributed by space dust, meteoroids, asteroids, comets, planetoids, and also by spacecraft carrying unintended contamination by microorganisms.
>contamination by microorganisms.
https://archive.is/TVGB
>Panspermia is a Greek word that translates literally as "seeds everywhere". The panspermia hypothesis states that the "seeds" of life exist all over the Universe and can be propagated through space from one location to another. Some believe that life on Earth may have originated through these "seeds".
>Mechanisms for panspermia include the deflection of interstellar dust by solar radiation pressure and extremophile microorganisms
>extremophile microorganisms
Did you ever play Spore?
Ever play the cell stage?
Are you really a cell in a pond or a giant in a universe?
What is big?
What is small?


>Ask yourself why it's called a space ship.
>space
>ship
>spaceships are essentially almost exactly the same as submarines by comparison
>Ask yourself why it's called an astro-naut.
>Nautical miles.
>Ask yourself why peter pan and the pirates ride flying pirate ships in space to the giant floating island of neverland
>Ask yourself why her name is sailor moon
>SAILOR
>MOON

>Ask yourself why water can often appear blue when exposed to light.
>Ask yourself why water often appears darker or completely black at night.
>Ask yourself why the sky very often appears blue during the day light.
>Ask yourself why the sky very often appears darker or completely black at night.

Lets take a look at the bible in genesis...
Day one and Two are very important.
>In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
>Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.
>And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And seeing that the light was good, God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness He called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
>And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters, to separate the waters from the waters.” So God made the expanse and separated the waters beneath it from the waters above. And it was so. God called the expanse “sky.”

Lets break this down piece by piece and pick apart the meaning of the individual parts.

<There is only God. nothing else exists so God makes our reality come into existence. Take note that God created the heavens AND the earth. God created the earth, but also the space the earth would occupy. Understand?
>In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.\
<Read this part carefully. Earth is formless and VOID. darkness over the surface of "THE DEEP". God hovering over surface of "THE WATERS"
>Now the earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters.
<light and dark, night and day etc. etc. etc.
>And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. And seeing that the light was good, God separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness He called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
<REALLY IMPORTANT-
>And God said, “Let there be an expanse between the waters, to separate the waters from the waters.” So God made the expanse and separated the waters beneath it from the waters above. And it was so. God called the expanse “sky.”
Think about what is being said here. There is water, and God makes an expanse between the waters made as "Sky" which is atmosphere, which is air we can breath.
/////// = waters. ( ) = expanse
So we have Waters.
//////////////
//////////////
>So God made the expanse and separated the waters beneath it from the waters above.
>And it was so. God called the expanse “sky.”
So before we had
//////////////
//////////////
And now we have
///////////////
( )
////////////////
This little sandwich is earth. The inside is where we are with plenty of air to breath, and we are surrounded above and below with "The waters" or "The deep"
https://archive.is/puuux

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>Ask yourself why the bible metions the waters above and below
>Ask yourself why the bible mentions the firmament
>Ask yourself why the bible mentions the earth as being fixed/immovable
<Psalm 104:5 "He set the earth on its foundations, never to be moved"
<Psalm 96:10 "Declare among the nations: “The LORD reigns.” The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved; He judges the peoples with equity."
<Psalm 93:1 "The LORD reigns! He is robed in majesty; the LORD has clothed and armed Himself with strength. The world indeed is firmly established; it cannot be moved."
<1 Chronicles 16:30 "tremble before Him, all the earth. The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved."
>Space is a Giant Ocean
>We're living in an Earth that is actually a giant submarine ocean floor research platform habitation module.
https://invidio.us/watch?v=puEXCyqkEKA
https://invidio.us/watch?v=z_5hXCpYsaE

REMEMBER: God opened the flood gates and made the great biblical flood happen (remembered by many different ancient people and cultures, not just the people involved with the bible)
The whole world flooded, THE WHOLE WORLD WAS ATLANTIS.
Watch the animated movie Atlantis. Seems a lot like it's giving hints.

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>look up operation highjump
>look up operation paperclip
>look up operation fishbowl
>look up the antarctic treaty
>what a coincidence that you can only ever see one side of the moon because its dark side is always facing away from us.
>what a coincidence that the moon just happens to fit over the sun during an eclipse even though it is said that they are massively different in size and distance from us. what are the chances that they are just the right sizes and distances from each other AND US, to appear exactly the same size in our sky?




THE EARTH IS FLAT. NASA CAN NOT, AND WILL NOT DISPROVE THIS.
even if this is wrong, it proves that the earth is not the way we are told that it is.
the very fact that nasa can not and will not disprove this is absolute proof that we are being lied to- even if the world isn't flat
TL;DR - humanity is waking up and questioning our reality. They are trying to make sense of the world around them, and not just trust what a mainstream source says, and for that, I commend them. So whether you believe if the Earth is round or not, or whether the Earth is alive or not, it does not really matter. By ridiculing people who believe that the Earth is flat, we control and pressure people to conform. When our society ridicules ideas that challenge the status quo, we feel uncomfortable, and we become less of a free thinking society. It's always important to consider or challenge what we all currently percieve as possible or impossible.

Put that in your pipe and toot it!

And how does this effect our esoteric practice?
Paranoia is detrimental to your path. You are harming gullible neophytes through your /pol/ conspiravy garbage. It's redundant, the shape of the Earth's not a concern for our art.

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>our art
A tad pretentious, aren't we?