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I suck at high magic. 06/15/14 (Sun) 00:21:22 No. 12314

I managed to dupe myself into believing some nonsense through self-hypnosis just to find out after a few days by checking closely that what I duped myself into thinking was not something to really happen.

Now I'm extremely sad. I'm going to just go to bed and sleep as long as I can all day and night for the next while. I'll eventually get up and then get back to reading books. I feel like I need to stop giving out advice because my own stuff is rather weak and shit, I'm only really good at a few things, and have a long ways to go in other areas.

Yeah that's it. I'm going really shut myself in and push things to the extreme here, I MUST accomplish more, what I've done so far is WEAK.

;_;

06/15/14 (Sun) 00:32:45 No.12315>>12318

I'll admit it. I thought I caused a physical change to the appearance of my body. Now I'm not so sure… because I went and looked at an older photo and compared and it's like the way I see my hair is different from the way my hair appears on camera. It's like I've changed my perception of my physical hair as reflected in a mirror but the camera shows something different. I fucked up somehow.

I can do some things with great skill but fuck I want to get to the next level so bad, got to increase my skills.

06/15/14 (Sun) 02:47:27 No.12318>>12336

>>12315
How long have you been going at this and what techniques were you using, etc etc? I'm interested in physical changes via magick also, but, like you, I suck, and also single-handed experimenting doesn't work that good.

06/15/14 (Sun) 03:44:59 No.12322

b a c k s t o r y ?

(I think I've been on this image board before)

06/15/14 (Sun) 08:58:49 No.12336>>12339

>>12318
Well I've thought long and hard about it and these are my conclusions: it's all down to the modification of BELIEF and BELIEFS DEFINE THE LIMITS OF REALITY.

All the visualization and etc. stuff is just a way to make yourself believe.

That's my theory at present.

06/15/14 (Sun) 09:28:26 No.12337

I shall lay out my newest theory on magic right here:

You can only do things because you believe you can

All of us are hypnotized into this present pattern of existence but that's to stop us from breaking the pattern or creating new ones?

Move your arm right now. If you were able to do it, it's because you believe you can.

Please right now this very moment check each thing you can do. Can you open your mouth? Can you look around? Can you speak?

Check each thing you know you can do at present and tell me do you believe it? Do you believe you can do all these things.

You will find that each thing you can do, you do in fact believe it.

If you were hypnotized successfully though, you might not be able to move your arm, no matter how much you try. Something happened in your subconscious that stopped you from doing it.

Look at all the various techniques used in magic and consider this video right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI1i-pUxASw

This guy seems like such a new age kook but I've found the statements in that video to make perfect sense as I've continued to try and understand everything when he talks about "permission slips".

I think visualization is a worthy pursuit of its own virtue as the ability to see with the mind's eye enhances ones ability to think greatly and opens up a great deal of wonderful things.

There's more going on here though. We need to do our strongest to withdraw from the current sensations and distractions of maya and learn to recreate in the mind each aspect of a thing. It's a lot of hard work and we keep lapse backing into the delusions because there's so many distractions, so much shit distracting us from our pursuit. Yet if we build up new metaphysical structures successfully and change our beliefs we should be able to unlock new channels of experience.

It's still down to a lot of imagination but I fucked something up you see and that's why I'm sad. I had to go deeper, I had to change more, and it is incredibly hard for me to change my beliefs. Every breath is a belief, every moment I feel present here is a belief, everything is defined by my beliefs and I've only had so far the short glimpses of the beyond that can happen if I really commit myself to it.

So my goal right now is to get my tabs closed again, get my sleep as much of it as I can, work out the "negative karma" which I now realize I have literally accumulated but not by being immoral or whatever shit people think it's actually pure causality. I have just not been spiritually disciplined and have continuously lapsed back into the same old patterns and beliefs after only momentary enlightenment.

I denied the existence of karma for so long because people were pushing the most bullshit wrong ideas about it to me making me reject it now I know better, I have attuned more deeply into what is going on.

The pursuit of ascent has been long and hard but it's a spiral it seems with me, yet an upward spiral. I seem to build myself up and then crash, but then I realize more, and I go a little higher each time.

I need to unlock myself more deeply and permanently.

When I am ready again and have recovered from this sleep deprivation and weariness which has exhausted me in the present it's time to READ MORE, lapse into distraction less, and push harder to enable my ascent.

06/15/14 (Sun) 09:30:03 No.12338

I really need to also get myself relocated into a new setting. Being surrounded by mundanes and their noise continues to be the bane of my wizardly existence.

06/15/14 (Sun) 09:45:43 No.12339

>>12336
Alright, but now we need to figure out how to apply intention to belief, so the potential from belief can actually materialize.

06/15/14 (Sun) 10:03:33 No.12340

I just realized something that recent influx of spam is not actually innocent in nature. Whoever it is, he is being manipulated by higher hyperdimensional forces in order to extract loosh, and it is no accident he kept posting that "arab guy" image over & over & over.

06/15/14 (Sun) 10:52:53 No.12341

I have been really thinking about mantras lately. I feel they are probably an inferior way to shape intent. I'm a little disappointed with them as I realize I had far greater success without pointlessly repeating sound complexes. I do much better to just hold the idea in mind and resonate strongly and consistently with it while holding back or dissolving other feelings and impressions which intend to intrude upon my mind.

I also have thought that I should switch out of the previous mantra set I was doing to simply focusing on one very important idea, "breaking down the veil". I may as well try a single 40x mantra for this… lately since I have no prayer beads I simply thoughtform a counter into place which increments with each iteration of the mantra.

I am not sure how I should formulate this. The others were done in the format of "I am x". Should I say "I am breaking down the veil" or should I say "the veil is is breaking"? I would most prefer though to simply formulate this idea of the veil breaking and resonate with it without the mantra repetition, I believe I'll get better results that way, but just once I should use the mantra method what do you think?

06/15/14 (Sun) 10:54:01 No.12342

Just completely finished reading this entire article: http://tomkenyon.com/jumping-time-lines

Hopefully now my bedroom is properly aerated out and I can if I am lucky rest a bit.

As for that article I just completed I … withhold judgement and consider the ideas as possible vectors for experimentations.

06/15/14 (Sun) 11:30:59 No.12343>>12349

I've been using a thoughtformed mirror which reflects shit around me in the astral and I can see things in my room in this way, rotating it around and moving it to see more stuff around me. I just visualize the mirror and look at it and see what it's reflecting. The mirror is projected by me but whatever is reflected on its surface is not. In this manner I can view things around me in the astral and I see some strange things often. If you want I could go do this right now and report back on some of the things I see just to be able to give you some examples of the types of things I spot in my thoughtformed astral mirror.

06/15/14 (Sun) 11:31:31 No.12344

The act of visualization itself breaks the veil.

Please don't be confused by my terminology.

Here are a few clarifications.

Astral Planes = Mental Planes (The Plane of Thought) (and yes physical planes are a mental projection too but they are more solidified by heavily established patterns, so astral refers to that part of reality which is more fluid as opposed to rigid, more responsive to thoughts)

Third eye / mind's eye = simply the ability to see visuals in the mind, opening the mind's eye is simply a matter of increasing lucidity, seeing more clearly these visuals/forms

Breaking the veil = tapping into a state of consciousness in which you are dreaming while awake, the "schizophrenic" state essentially, where you are in 4th density. In this manner the barrier between the heavenly realms and the earthly realm is broken down / thinned out and one sees easily into things outside of linear time.

I hate sigils. I've used them before for various purposes just because others insist on using them so often but for me it's much more effective to to form the intent without a sigil and to just work with thoughtforms. I do everything much more effectively with my thoughtforms.

The very act of visualization has the effect of breaking through the veil you know. The veil is what hold's us back from being active creators of reality instead of subjects to higher forces, keeps us in ignorance, keeps us from seeing the world through our mind's eye instead of a bunch of silly physical eyes.

06/15/14 (Sun) 15:17:56 No.12349

>>12343

please do, also I would like to make my own astral mirror, can you describe the process you took to project yours?

06/15/14 (Sun) 18:32:18 No.12357>>12360>>12362

Is this board fucking serious?

Holy shit now I know where smiley comes from.

Ok, back to 4chon with me.

06/15/14 (Sun) 19:44:06 No.12359

The man who says he can and the man who says he can't are both correct.

06/15/14 (Sun) 21:06:11 No.12360

>>12357

>Ok, back to 4chon with me.

ok

06/16/14 (Mon) 00:14:36 No.12362

>>12357
What exactly is your problem, what bothers you, and why do you leave without discussion?

Are you just a fedora?

06/16/14 (Mon) 00:21:56 No.12363>>12364>>12371

I tried some experiments tonight with mantras since I was pissed off with them.

I thought "a man who is healthy does not tell himself he is healthy, only a man who is sick would tell himself over & over he is healthy… or a man who is depressed would tell himself he is happy".

So I just did the complete opposite and begin with mantras of "I will absolutely fail", "I will die tonight in my sleep", etc.

The result it seems was a perfect failure of everything but with an unexpected positive side effect. I was in the astral and began coughing up blood, more and more and more of it, and eventually died a really painful death. After that something changed and I was able to AP hundreds of times in a row and I kept getting disconnected but APing again & again & again to different parts of my house.

I ended up spending many hours in the astral, talking to other entities, and doing various things and even checked my astral appearance in the side-mirror of a car in the driveway of my house.

I thought while in the astral of that one article someone posted before about trying to make a triangle appear on someone's forehead and attempted to do anything of that sort of nature then but failed to project anything then and got disconnected then reprojected again to a random spot in my house and went outside repeatedly and kept looking around at everything in extremely high resolution and getting disconnected and projecting again & again & again.

It seems dying enhances astral projection.

06/16/14 (Mon) 00:24:57 No.12364

>>12363
I'm still confused about mantras and their effects.

Oh this also reminds me earlier today there was an incredible assault of invasive thoughtforms on my mind that took hours to beat back but I eventually won and they are gone now and the whole time there was a great ZZZZZZZ like sound in my room that indicated the presence of something else which I eventually banished though.

It seems a strange combination of intentions, beliefs, resonance, etc. can lead to a lot of unexpected effects.

06/16/14 (Mon) 03:37:06 No.12371

>>12363
>I thought "a man who is healthy does not tell himself he is healthy, only a man who is sick would tell himself over & over he is healthy… or a man who is depressed would tell himself he is happy".


This is why a mantra should be said with FEELING. You don't sit and dejectedly repeat how happy you are; you get up, pump your fist, and FEEL joy surging through you with every repetition. You should jump, dance, BREAK YOUR PATTERN of normal behavior. You're trying to impress your subconscious mind, and your subconscious mind loves drama and action. That's the entire point of any magical ritual. Pumping your fist, or whatever other physical action you choose, should be repeated with every repetition of the mantra, so you anchor the feeling to that movement NLP style (that way, whenever you make that motion, it instantly recalls and strengthens the feeling).

Mantras can be extremely powerful, but you have to really get into them.