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04/21/14 (Mon) 05:15:42 No. 7030

Can we talk about the Meier Prophecies and Transhumanism?

First the the Meier Prophecies found here: http://www.theyfly.com/lost/meier.prophecies.1958.htm

They're extremely interesting and seem to be accurate if they really were all written in 1958. However, our own sticky says this after the link to the prophecies:

"(COMPLETELY ACCURATE PREDICTIONS but alien disinfo comes in at 141 and everything after 141 should be disregarded)"

Why is this? Around 141 the prophecies talk about a great future for humanity; people live hundreds of years, space travel, understanding the laws of creations. How come people don't like hearing good stuff in their prophecies and talk about it being alien disinfo? Isn't this exactly what we want?

Which leads me to transhumanism. I consider myself a transhumanist, I've dedicated myself to studying Artificial Intelligence just for the sake of the movement and the progress of humanity. But this has some serious implications for the occult crowd.

Can I transfer my soul, along with my mind, to a new body? Yes yes, I want an immortal physical body, whatever. But seriously, does anyone have any texts on soul transfers to artificial bodies or anything similiar.

What about copies of minds, are they souled as well?

So /fringe/, what are you opinions on the prophecies, but most importantly transhumanism.

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:20:57 No.7031>>7039

>>7030
>Can I transfer my soul, along with my mind, to a new body? Yes yes, I want an immortal physical body, whatever. But seriously, does anyone have any texts on soul transfers to artificial bodies or anything similiar.

Yeah it's called the transmigration of the soul and we have several threads on this subject. Fuck transhumanism btw. The only transformative process you need is extreme meditation and the power of unlocking the subconscious.

Read this thread: http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/14456978/

…and the links it links to.

>What about copies of minds, are they souled as well?

You can transfer your mind along with your spirit.

>So /fringe/, what are you opinions on the prophecies, but most importantly transhumanism.

I find them terrifying and don't want them to happen.

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:22:51 No.7032>>7035>>7039

Huh. Never really liked the transhumanist movement, because i feel transhumanism takes away from our individuality, but to each his own i guess. I know I've seen some texts regarding transferring your soul (or at least part of it) to an object, although none are popping up at this moment. I do know that a lot of Jewish magic covers that subject though.

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:23:54 No.7033>>7039

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>It will be the time when, out of humanity, people become one, and understand that each is a smaller part of the neighbor, and only unity gives strength, and neither skin color, nor belief, rather, only commonality and effective truth regarding Creation and its laws and directives are of significance.

I hope they mean that people will recognize race as opposed to thinking an albino nigger can be a white or something…

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:24:23 No.7034>>7039

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ehehehehe

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:24:59 No.7035>>7037

>>7032
Do you even Lobsang Rampa and the Transmigration of the Soul?

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:28:08 No.7037>>7038

>>7035
Nope. Sorry. Mind filling me in on the basics?

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:29:13 No.7038>>7042

>>7037
…read http://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/14456978/ and read the links that CHAOSVOID posts in that thread. That should fill you in on the basics.

You can swap bodies with others when you into astral.

Takes a lot of work and you need to be very alone so you don't get distracted but it can be done.

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:29:20 No.7039>>7040>>7041>>7044

OP here.

>>7033
Hope you're trolling

>>7034
Are you able to give me some links about conspiracies in the transhumanist movement? I obviously understand how this could work, but I haven't seen any texts on it yet.

>>7032
It's supposed to actually be more individualistic by giving you more choices not just on how your body looks and operates, but how you operate that life as well. But, as you said, to each their own.

>>7031
Thanks for the links! I'll definitely dive into it. I hope you change your mind on transhumanism, it has the potentional to do a lot of good, especially since the movement is a part of a large whole to alleviate human suffering with technology. But, it's absolute your choice, still however I hope that you'll see good in what this can do for humanity. Thanks again

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:31:02 No.7040>>7045

>>7039
Transhumanism IS the conspiracy.

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:31:46 No.7041>>7045

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:32:10 No.7042>>7056

>>7038
How does this work for bodies that aren't designed to hold a soul. If the only part of my in my new body was my pineal gland, could that work? I don't really expect you to know the answers, but soul transfer with other organics may be reasonable, but to fully transfer it to a new artificial vessel….we may need to go akashic digging

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:32:43 No.7043>>7046

Imagine in a transhumanist future what stupid fucking trends the idiot masses would apply to themselves to transform their own bodies.

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:33:24 No.7044>>7046>>7047

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>>7039
>Hope you're trolling

Hope you aren't a filthy KIKE.

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:35:38 No.7045>>7049>>7050

>>7041
Actually I am implying that.

We have been able to cure sicknesses, able to travel anywhere in the world in a single day, even the very poorest of our world live greater than they did in the dark ages, the internet, free and open knowledge, occult texts have never been this widespread, etc.

We have done great things with technology, and will continue to do so. Hopefully the research i do in AI will one day create a fully sentient artificial intillgence that will acclerate this progress even more.

>>7040
/x/ tier post. I mean why do you believe that?

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:36:53 No.7046

>>7044
me too
>>7043
I'm seeing fur making a comeback!!

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:37:31 No.7047

>>7044
/edgy/ please

04/21/14 (Mon) 05:47:06 No.7049>>7051

>>7045
>I mean why do you believe that?
unabom.txt

04/21/14 (Mon) 06:27:36 No.7050>>7089

>>7045
>We have been able to cure sicknesses,

Magic does it better.

>able to travel anywhere in the world in a single day,

With magic you can teleport, astral travel, etc. Your argument is invalid.

>even the very poorest of our world live greater than they did in the dark ages,

Nope not really, tons of disease and suffering and nihilism and shit, at least back then they had a lot more comforting faith, a lot less overpopulation, a lot less pollution, etc. and better good (no pesticides and so on), and if you ignore the infant death-rate they lived quite long unless they died a noble and worthy death in battle

>the internet, free and open knowledge, occult texts have never been this widespread, etc.

Ok then.

>We have done great things with technology, and will continue to do so. Hopefully the research i do in AI will one day create a fully sentient artificial intillgence that will acclerate this progress even more.

Will never ever happen. You need to understand that consciousness is not mechanical.

04/21/14 (Mon) 06:28:20 No.7051

>>7049
Someone actually post that one except from Ted Kaczynski that is a major enviro-pill.

04/21/14 (Mon) 08:38:52 No.7056

>>7042
…probably using remote influencing to make the necessary changes to the target vessel before inhabiting it.

04/21/14 (Mon) 20:42:51 No.7089>>7090>>7091

>>7050
>Nope not really, tons of disease and suffering and nihilism and shit, at least back then they had a lot more comforting faith, a lot less overpopulation, a lot less pollution, etc. and better good (no pesticides and so on), and if you ignore the infant death-rate they lived quite long unless they died a noble and worthy death in battle

not op, but this is bullshit

There's nothing noble about dying in battle, and while your life expentency statement is correct, everything else is just stupid. Are pesticides bad now? Over population? Do you even know what that means? There literally can't be over population because people will die off if there are too many people.

also the rest of your shit is stupid because you have no evidence taht magic even exists, let alone can do any of that shit you said

04/21/14 (Mon) 20:45:37 No.7090

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>>7089
>not op, but this is bullshit

Fuck off.

>There's nothing noble about dying in battle,

YES THERE IS you fucking coward. It is the only worthy death.

>and while your life expentency statement is correct, everything else is just stupid. Are pesticides bad now? Over population? Do you even know what that means? There literally can't be over population because people will die off if there are too many people.

When there are people swarming all around me and hardly any fucking wilderness the world is overpopulated. We should reduce it by 99% at least and have a population of only a few million humans world-wide. Fuck this shit.

>also the rest of your shit is stupid because you have no evidence taht magic even exists, let alone can do any of that shit you said

The fuck are you doing on /fringe/?

04/21/14 (Mon) 20:52:22 No.7091>>7130

>>7089
This is that twelve year old on /new/. He also thinks sodomy is ok. Ban this faggot.

04/22/14 (Tue) 04:14:52 No.7130>>7132>>7135

>>7091
I am not him plz no ban

04/22/14 (Tue) 04:16:50 No.7132>>7146>>7174

>>7130
Then don't come in here insulting our years worth of work and study. We could care less about "proof", just do it faggot and see for yourself, its just placebo.

04/22/14 (Tue) 04:37:47 No.7135

>>7130
FINISH HIM

04/22/14 (Tue) 05:40:16 No.7146>>7175>>7176>>7189

>>7132
>just placebo

Are you implying that placebo is somehow weak? Placebo is literally magic and has no limitation.

04/22/14 (Tue) 22:13:00 No.7174>>7176>>7187

>>7132
Wait. So magic is placebo now? So magic isn't real, but well documented placebo effects are actually magic? I'm confused.

04/22/14 (Tue) 22:14:02 No.7175>>7176>>7187

>>7146
It is well documented that placebo is indeed limited.

04/22/14 (Tue) 22:18:58 No.7176

>>7174
Magic was always real to begin with; yet its not. Its best to be confused, if it works it works!

>>7175
Are you serious? It is NOT limited. We can make ourselves trip balls harder than DMT with placebo. We can do a lot of things.

>>7146
I am not implying that placebo is weak.

04/22/14 (Tue) 22:20:48 No.7177

Btw just make a spell/ritual and see for yourself. Read books on the subject, a LOT. Even if it isn't placebo, if it works keep doing it. If it doesn't, either move on or modify until results are met.

04/22/14 (Tue) 23:29:00 No.7187

>>7175
>>7174
Placebo is magic. You can imagine anything into existence because all of existence is imagined.

04/22/14 (Tue) 23:52:07 No.7189>>7190

>>7146
I keep hearing fringe talk about this. How is placebo magical.

04/23/14 (Wed) 00:04:21 No.7190>>7191>>7194

>>7189
Here is one example of how magic is placebo. Lets say I want to be inspired to write more in my grimoire, the best for this would be a sigil. I'd write out a statement that clearly states my desire, this purpose being "I am inspired to write in my grimoire." I would then design a pictoral image, usually done in another language and making it fancy to increase the forgetting part, then activate it by achieving gnosis. I do this by visuallising it while having an orgasm or dancing crazily to some heavy metal music, it depends per person. Then I would cast it, usually done by destroying it or burying it. It is now in my subconscious mind because I have forgotten what the purpose of it was and I will now be inspired to add to my grimoire.

It is best to make around 10 sigils though because if you make only one then you'll be guaranteed to remember. But this is just one example of how its just placebo, there are many more.

04/23/14 (Wed) 00:14:35 No.7191>>7193

>>7190
I think you should look up the definition of placebo, i get what you're saying, but that does not fall in line with any real definitions of palcebo

04/23/14 (Wed) 00:15:50 No.7192

>>7030
Does anyone want to address the meier prophecies? Why do people not like bright futures?

on a side note does anyone have the complete work of edgar cayce's prophecies. I can only find snippets and they're not enough

04/23/14 (Wed) 00:17:01 No.7193

>>7191
Yes it is… the point is, by making a sigil makes me believe I actually am going to recieve this effect. By putting it into my subconscious my mind will still recieve the effect, so yes it is perfectly placebo. Don't say I'm wrong, mundane.

04/23/14 (Wed) 00:22:53 No.7194>>7195>>7204

>>7190
Couldn't you just use affirmations? That seems much easier.

04/23/14 (Wed) 00:26:26 No.7195

>>7194
>doing something easy because of laziness
>putting work into your magic and giving you a greater chance of recieving the effect

Well, you could, if you want to chant mantras for multiple days, sure! Or you could take an hour out of your day and create sigils which have a better result and faster. An affirmation would be like "I am fearless".

Try them both and record them in your book of results, then use whichever one worked. Wizards use multiple ways of doing things, not just the same thing over and over.

04/23/14 (Wed) 02:30:48 No.7204>>7206

>>7194
Whats so hard about drawing and fapping/spinning around/etc?

04/23/14 (Wed) 02:49:41 No.7206>>7210

>>7204
Nothing. It just seems as though through repetition of a sentence like "I honor and grow the power within me" or such, would be a more effective meditation than forming a sigil.

04/23/14 (Wed) 03:05:59 No.7210

>>7206
Yes, but that takes a long time, and usually you don't do affirmations for sigil results.

Draw a picture, fap, burn it = ~30 minutes
Affirmations = a long time, it depends though.

But its all personal taste, there's nothing wrong with either