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Beginning My Occult Journey Anonymous!Ep8pui8Vw2 03/19/14 (Wed) 03:59:50 No. 4110

Why should I start into the Occult?

Also, where should I start? I've read up on Thelema , Goetia, and Wicca so far. I know the basics of the LBRP but I don't memorize the names of the angels. I've only performed rituals from the Joy of Satan Ministries (BAD IDEA)

Any help?

Pic unrelated, Goetic sigils.

03/19/14 (Wed) 04:07:13 No.4111>>4112>>4114

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Main Folder:
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ARBw0ZaR!yduyqXh9-HC34a2ncm7kLw

Beginners:
https://mega.co.nz/#F!1MpQxZSa!aC3C6njm1LFU2zZFmfZyAA

Academia:
https://mega.co.nz/#F!cB4h2AIJ!w8jFGkI-H31luSzz-MGx6Q

OTO/Sex Magick:
https://mega.co.nz/#F!oQgDyYLS!CBfLVqyw6l3gnD5IVEUlow

03/19/14 (Wed) 04:07:23 No.4112>>4114

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Anonymous!Ep8pui8Vw2 03/19/14 (Wed) 04:09:31 No.4114>>4115>>4118

>>4112
>>4111
Frater K., is it you? Haha.

I know what to read, but I just need info or someone to talk to about it.

03/19/14 (Wed) 04:16:31 No.4115>>4117

>>4114

I'm not Frater K. , just posting useful information and links.

Did you enjoy the Julius Evola book by the way?

Assuming that you read it.

03/19/14 (Wed) 04:22:59 No.4116>>4120

>>4110
>Why should I start into the Occult?

To experience the divine reality, to acquire greater power, to perfect your being, to free yourself from the mundane, etc.

>Also, where should I start? I've read up on Thelema , Goetia, and Wicca so far. I know the basics of the LBRP but I don't memorize the names of the angels. I've only performed rituals from the Joy of Satan Ministries (BAD IDEA)

Anywhere but Wicca, Goetia, Thelema, and JoS. All incredibly shitty starting points. Seriously, Wicca is the absolute worst.

Start off with Hermeticism, Gnosticism, and reading and understanding the stuff on montalk.net

Anonymous!Ep8pui8Vw2 03/19/14 (Wed) 04:23:05 No.4117>>4119>>4200

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>>4115
Dude I just want some help, I can get books easily. I can't read any now because I'm on mobile.

03/19/14 (Wed) 04:24:41 No.4118>>4122>>4144

>>4114
Read the material in the sticky on /fringe/ also I forgot to mention chaos magic fuck. Chaos magic is the absolute best paradigm.

03/19/14 (Wed) 04:25:31 No.4119>>4122

>>4117
You know if you just read through all the threads on /fringe/ you'll find a lot of valuable stuff right? There's a lot of OC on here and some other material posted everywhere.

Anonymous!Ep8pui8Vw2 03/19/14 (Wed) 04:26:13 No.4120>>4128

>>4116
I've skimmed through the Kybalion and Aleister Crowley is confusing. Right now I'm reading EVERYTHING, haha. I just don't know what rituals I should practice (for practice) but I guess I just have to do the rituals to find out. For some reason, when I do rituals, even basic ones like LBRP, I get nervous and scared fkr some reason.

Anonymous!Ep8pui8Vw2 03/19/14 (Wed) 04:28:02 No.4122>>4128>>4144

>>4119
Yeah I've read the sticky, but like I said I can't download .pdf's and shit.

>>4118
I'll have to look into chaos magic…

03/19/14 (Wed) 04:44:39 No.4128>>4139>>4144

>>4120
>I've skimmed through the Kybalion and Aleister Crowley is confusing. Right now I'm reading EVERYTHING, haha. I just don't know what rituals I should practice (for practice) but I guess I just have to do the rituals to find out. For some reason, when I do rituals, even basic ones like LBRP, I get nervous and scared fkr some reason.

I've The Book of The Law and some other Thelema shit and it was all useless crap. I ignore Thelema now. The only thing good that comes out of the Thelema philosophy is its emphasis on the Will as the means to get shit done.

Why the heck do you get nervous and scared? That wrecks your ritual and guarantees it's going to go badly. I personally got into magic while suicidal so I wanted to die while doing magic and the result was that I was really good at magic because my wanting to die made me unafraid of anything.

>>4122
Chaos magic is the best paradigm. In chaos magic we manipulate our beliefs to accept anything then drop them when we don't need them anymore. Check out the IOT thread on /fringe/ it tells basically what we do in chaos magic.

Anonymous!Ep8pui8Vw2 03/19/14 (Wed) 05:05:29 No.4139>>4141

>>4128
I have no clue why I get nervous. I was suicidal a few months ago… weird. But I imagine if I read and memorize the ritual and know what the outcome ks going to be, along with planning the ritual out in my bead should rid my anxiousness.

03/19/14 (Wed) 05:08:31 No.4141>>4143

>>4139
I should write down more of my rituals. I just make them up myself or learn them in the astral without really doing stuff from books and they work well. For me it has been very important to break down the ritual and understand each part of it very well so I have a clear understanding of what I'm doing. I don't think most people will succeed with ritual when they don't understand the bigger picture of what they're doing.

Anonymous!Ep8pui8Vw2 03/19/14 (Wed) 05:17:22 No.4143>>4144

>>4141
I guess I'll figure it out in time. Chaos magick seems really interesting to me but I don't quite understand the concept, I'll read more later.

Thank you for everyone who helped me, I appreciate it.

Anonymous!Ep8pui8Vw2 03/19/14 (Wed) 06:27:11 No.4144>>4145>>4146>>4182

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>>4118
>>4122
>>4128
>>4143
So I looked into Chaos Magick - and jt looks perfect for me. I guess this will be my starting point or I may stay doing Chaos Magick. I guess I'll find out haha.

03/19/14 (Wed) 06:58:04 No.4145>>4150

>>4144
Do what I did first and just read fucking every result in the grimoars site that has to do with chaos magick and take notes. Like literally, have a notes thing open, and write down about what chaos magic is and what facts you've discerned about it.

http://english.grimoar.cz/?Loc=nam&Lng=2&Flt=chaos

03/19/14 (Wed) 06:58:42 No.4146

>>4144
Also here's the IOT thread: http://fringechan.org/fringe/res/3039.html

03/19/14 (Wed) 07:13:56 No.4150

>>4145
Shit I can't download that stuff and my computer is in the other room ;_; 3:00am here and tired so I'll do it tomorrow haha

03/19/14 (Wed) 12:41:50 No.4182>>4184>>4186

>>4144
Good, good… let the Chaos flow through you! It has made you strong, it has made you powerful.

03/19/14 (Wed) 13:50:42 No.4184>>4186

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>>4182
Not him but right this very moment I'm downloading every single chaos magic book in the grimoars library and I intend to read and take notes from ALL OF THEM. This and Hermetic magic shall make me a very powerful wizard.

(A few of the books might be irrelevant despite containing chaos in their name or tags and will be skipped of course)

http://english.grimoar.cz/?Loc=nam&Lng=2&Flt=chaos

Pic related is everything I have dl'd so far.

Will be taking notes on all this shit and compiling it into my own magic book.

03/19/14 (Wed) 14:56:52 No.4186>>4187>>4188

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>>4182
>>4184
Lke seriously, its just what I've been looking for.

>Belive in what I want to, then drop it whenever I want
>Simple rituals
>Overall, its perfect.

03/19/14 (Wed) 15:00:11 No.4187

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>>4186
Indeed it's a wonderful paradigm man. The occult is in general very eclectic. Chaos magick is the ultimate expression of this eclecticism.

03/19/14 (Wed) 15:00:58 No.4188>>4190

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>>4186
Pic related is kind of ironic…

03/19/14 (Wed) 15:02:20 No.4189>>4191

>>41867
Now all I have to do is make a magical thumbdrive with shit tons of choas magick books haha

03/19/14 (Wed) 15:02:37 No.4190>>4194

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>>4188
How so? Nice pro-white dubs btw.

03/19/14 (Wed) 15:03:32 No.4191>>4194

>>4189
I'll give you a dl link when I'm done downloading all of these magic books and put them into one package. I'll eventually make a second dl link with my notes added probably for each book.

03/19/14 (Wed) 15:53:58 No.4194>>4198

>>4190
Because I found out about chaos, then that banner appears

>>4191
Thanks man!

03/19/14 (Wed) 16:45:53 No.4198>>4205

>>4194 me again,

I have a question on gnosis. How do you achieve it and how do you know when you are in a gnostic state?

03/19/14 (Wed) 22:19:51 No.4200

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>>4117

I was just asking if you read the Julius Evola book, you don't have to get so defensive.

03/19/14 (Wed) 23:43:08 No.4205>>4215

>>4198
Disregard this. Is there some ritual or spell I should start out with, something I can edit as I please or something?

03/20/14 (Thu) 07:15:01 No.4215

>>4205
do that succubus summoning ritual and adapt it to other things as you please

03/22/14 (Sat) 08:52:37 No.4287>>4290>>4318

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I have them all now.

https://mega.co.nz/#F!vpZWgRSA!NyFasyvtsJgI1uZIkU9vvA

(removed like one or two files that weren't related btw such as a Dungeons & Dragons thing and some other stupid shit, might be one or two files in there that aren't actually chaos magick still)

03/22/14 (Sat) 09:08:44 No.4290>>4295

>>4287
>chaos magic
>no Book of Pleasure
They don't all have chaos in the title you know

03/22/14 (Sat) 09:16:14 No.4292>>4294

anyone have a download to Initiation to Hermetics?

03/22/14 (Sat) 09:31:12 No.4294

>>4292
It's in the /fringe/ sticky. There's actually two download links there. Personally I have 3 different copies of the book (2001 edition, 1956 or whatever the fuck year it was edition, and the original).

http://fringechan.org/fringe/res/2.html

I prefer the 2001 edition.

03/22/14 (Sat) 09:31:43 No.4295

>>4290
What about the tags?

03/22/14 (Sat) 09:33:50 No.4297>>4298

http://english.grimoar.cz/?Loc=key&Lng=2&New=6

oh fuck. I just tried this keyword search and there's… a lot more books. This is rather intimidating. ;_;

03/22/14 (Sat) 09:36:53 No.4298

>>4297
Fuck it I am downloading a few more books I like and then I'm just going to read through what I have right now before expanding out to other stuff.

03/22/14 (Sat) 09:37:50 No.4299

https://mega.co.nz/#F!ARBw0ZaR!yduyqXh9-HC34a2ncm7kLw

There's a lot of chaos magick books in here.

Anonymous!Ep8pui8Vw2 03/22/14 (Sat) 14:31:16 No.4318>>4334

>>4287
OP here, all I have is these:

-A Chaos Magick Grimoire
-Condensed Chaos
-Prometheus Rising
-Liber Null and Psychonaut (Amazing read!)

Then I have some other book that isn't very good, I forget the name. I'm building up my library, slowly haha.

03/22/14 (Sat) 14:59:11 No.4334>>4335

>>4318
Have you read them all? If so – what greenpills have you found inside of them?

03/22/14 (Sat) 15:03:32 No.4335>>4360

>>4334
I've skimmed through each book, so I haven't sat down and read them. I forgot to mention a book on Technomancy (I forget what, I'll have to go through my flashdrige in a moment) but it was utter bullshit to me besides the huge list of deities I could summon later on when I'm experienced.

I don't really have any greenpills atm; I just skimmed through, looking at rituals.

Well, I guess I learned one:
Someone who doesn't know what the answer to a magick question will most likely say verbal diarreah out their mouths, but a true Novice will say "I haven't a fucking clue."

03/22/14 (Sat) 23:04:24 No.4360>>4365

>>4335
The thing about rituals is it's more important to understand the principles behind rituals which make them work… and when you understand that then you'll know how to just make your own rituals at anytime. Lists of rituals are useless, knowing how rituals work and are constructed is what counts.

03/23/14 (Sun) 01:17:31 No.4365

>>4360
Well, thats obvious. I don't really need any rituals as of now besides banishing rituals before I meditate/yoga. I'm definetly going to study and shit before I delve any deeper.

Provur!Ck0wW5YuhQ 07/30/14 (Wed) 03:05:01 No.14681>>14684

My first /fringe/ thread. Never forget. Back when I was a neophyte n00b :^)

07/30/14 (Wed) 03:18:57 No.14684>>14685

>>14681
Oh wow.

>Thelema
>Goetia
>Wicca

top kek

Provur!Ck0wW5YuhQ 07/30/14 (Wed) 03:23:12 No.14685

>>14684
Ikr. I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. I guess it's because when you first delve into something you're looking at the most mainstream shit that pops up. I'm glad I got around it all… I didn't wen do anything in Wicca thelema or goetia I just read about it.