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No. 15641
Continuation of this thread: >>10894

1) Pledge an amount of time. Preferably a number of weeks. Post it in this thread.
2) If you break your pledge, you must also confess your transgression in this thread.
3) If you keep your pledge you may reward yourself… with more time pledged!
4) For purposes of this thread, "masturbation" is defined as touching your genitals for purposes other than basic hygiene and expulsion of wastes.

For those of you who have entirely transcended physical sex but who use succubus and so on you can also make pledges here to control your sexual thoughts and try not to evoke or meet any entities to have sex with.

Remade the thread since the last one was very popular and hit the bump limit and many of you want use your generative powers for a higher purpose than mere wasted moments of hedonism.

Post any techniques for the transformation and proper use of sexual energy here also.

Personally I feel that stage one should be to completely stop with touching or physical stimulation of sexual energy and learning to take that desire and drive and focus it mentally into thoughtforms. If you are going to entertain lustful ideas at least don't be a silly mundane about it when you could be using thoughtforce to telekinetically get yourself off or something similar. Straight up fapping is for mundanes.
No.15643
>>15180
Tell me how'd you end up in an abusive relationship with a girlfriend?

No.15644
Question to discuss: Favorite porno?

Stranger: Thats hard
You: Porn is disgusting and degenerate.
Stranger: my favorite porstar is brittany amber
You: I am an ascetic and renounce lust.
Stranger: a what?
You: An ascetic.
You: Do you know what Ascetic monks are?
Stranger: Well my religon lets me do what i want as long as i dont hurt no one
Stranger: sooo
Stranger: or myself
Stranger: or nature
You: It's a philosophy not a religion.
Stranger: Well
Stranger: your a pussy
You: It is concerned also with the development of the mind and the soul.
You: How am I a pussy?
Stranger: You dont like to watch people fuck
You: >Asceticism
Asceticism is a lifestyle characterized by abstinence from various worldly pleasures, often with the aim of pursuing spiritual goals. Many religious traditions, such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and some Christian groups include practices that involve restraint with respect to actions of body, speech, and mind. The founders and earliest practitioners of these religions lived extremely austere lifestyles, refraining from sensual pleasures and the accumulation of material wealth. They practised asceticism not as a rejection of the enjoyment of life, or because the practices themselves are virtuous, but as an aid in the pursuit of physical and metaphysical health. They eschewed worldy pleasures and led an abstemious lifestyle.
Stranger: holy shit
Stranger: tldr
Stranger has disconnected.

No.15647
Nice, a new thread pop up after starting again (yep already failed). Gonna pledge something like 20 or so days to beat my last record.

No.15655
I haven't masturbated for 4 months now, but I occasionally peek to see some porn. So much work to do.

No.15711>>15712>>15713
Haven't fapped for a week and had my first wet dream today.

Not sure if abstinence is worth the mess I made.

After my pledge of two weeks finishes I will limit myself to fapping once a week.

No.15712
>>15711
Just fuck a succubus and your sperm will disappear into mid-air. Regards, succubus-fucker.

No.15713>>15715>>16727
>>15711
…or transform your sexual energy instead of ignoring it and letting it build up.

No.15715>>15718
>>15713
That's what I did when I got strong urges to fap which didn't happen that often. Maybe I should have done that more often..

No.15718
>>15715
I do it quite effortlessly myself but I haven't fapped ever and will not fap in this lifetime.

No.15762>>15906
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I tried so many times and failed. I made it a few days this time but cracked yesterday and then did it again today. I hereby renounce Lust and its hold upon me, and vow to never again masturbate for at LEAST 1 week (hey, gotta start somewhere right?)

No.15782>>15786>>15819>>16116>>17790
Now until I'm able to Astral Project.
I've been no fap for 3 weeks already, let's goooo

No.15786
>>15782
Once you can AP you can fuck succubus, undines, ghost girls, and all sorts of other female entities. Why would you ever masturbate then?

No.15803>>15817>>15818>>15823>>15878
>>15640
>The founders and earliest practitioners of these religions lived extremely austere lifestyles, refraining from sensual pleasures and the accumulation of material wealth. They practised asceticism not as a rejection of the enjoyment of life, or because the practices themselves are virtuous, but as an aid in the pursuit of physical and metaphysical health.

These seems like the path I want to take in life, almost like the path I should have been taking but I feel like ts been co-opted now by fapping and masturbation.

Like just a few years prior I wasn't as addicted to it and managed to make beginner progress in lucid dreaming and astral projection/OBE attempts.

But now I basically have stopped all of that even meditating, instead choosing to use any valuable time alone and in privacy to fap to some degrading shit online so I can feel that dopamine.

I'm really not addicted to anything else just porn and fapping, and I read that if you have parents who are addicted to substances its highly likely you will be too and I thought that didn't apply to me because I have never and will never take an alcoholic drink into my mouth after seeing firsthand what it can do to perfectly healthy and good people. But apparently I was and am addicted to porn instead, thats my substance and I didn't even realize it till a few years ago.

I'm not sure if I should even pledge right now, my will is so fragile I would probably end up fapping the next time I'm alone in the house anyways.

Although yesterday I was alone for like 10 hours, fapped just for an hour didn't even orgasm because I wanted to play War Thunder which I did for like all that time.

I guess I could call that an improvement and a good development but I could have been using that time to meditate or something, I don't want to replace one addiction with another either.

I just don't know what to fucking do /fringe/. Usually now as soon as I finish fapping I regret it right away and try to tell myself I will resist it next time and I'm fucking done with fapping for a week at least but as soon as I feel the urge again I give in- what should I do when I feel that urge, should I just sit still until it passes? This is also difficult because then I just think about the urge more and it doesnt subside and I end up pulling up the old links and sites again.

Before when I meditated that sort of used to serve as a buffer between these thoughts kinda, but now I don't even do that and feel too rushed or impatient to meditate even, which makes the problem worse.

What the hell am I supposed to do?

No.15805>>15816
>>15641

Alright i pledge not to have sex or jack off for one week, if i am successful i'll ad another week and so on.

No.15816
>>15805
seems this may be harder than i thought.
ROUND 2 more meditation and prayer

No.15817
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>>15803
So I fapped of course then had some deep self reflection.

We'll see how long that lasts I guess, I pledge a week.

No.15818>>15820
>>15803
I'm in a similar situation. What I'm doing is slowly letting go of porn and fapping. I used to fap 2-3 times a day, then 3 weeks ago I fapped once a day, next week I didnt fap 2 days I think, next week 3 days w/no fapping, now I'm trying to fap every 2 days. I just know I can't quit cold turkey, so there is no point in forcing myself to carry out something I can't do yet.

I feel this is the appropiate path for me now and one of these days I'll be ready to pledge a week or two.

Also I find its better to fap at night before going to bed, so the lack of energy doesn't bother you durimg the day. Try not to visit porn websites as they tend to be very chaotic and disturbing to the mind, "survive" of your porn collection, try to fap to just one girl/thing if you must watch porn.

Obviously doing these things is not your ideal, but gradually letting go might be a good way to eventually reach your goal.

Best luck.

No.15819
>>15782
this. until im able to astral project.

No.15820
>>15818
Thanks but I actually tried a similar approach and it didn't really go far for me at least.

I'm changing my approach now, in any case I have to, I have lots of shit to do and can't afford the time to fap so often this month, so maybe that will help as well.

No.15821>>16503
>>15641
I pledge one week.

No.15823>>15878
>>15803
Trade fapping addiction for succubus addiction, regards succubus pro.

No.15824>>15878
Some of you guys that have an urge to fap how about you just make the promise to yourself you won't do it physically and instead will focus on going into trance and telekinetically fapping? If the desire is strong enough and you refuse to actually touch yourself you might at least learn TK as a result.

No.15825
That painting just made me realize something. When stupid whores go around being skimpy and practically naked in public it makes women as a whole less attractive. Back when merely showing off a leg sent men wild, women were way more attractive, and if women want to remain attractive to men they should stop exposing themselves so much.

No.15877
I pledge a month

No.15878
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>>15824
>>15823
I'm >>15803

I think what I'll do instead is any time I get the urge, or I start to feel bored and am alone and have privacy which is the condition that ends up with me fapping it to porn, I will instead turn off my monitor, lie on my bed and try to meditate/deep breathing relaxation instead.

Like right now for instance lol.

No.15906>>15908>>15924
>>15762
I failed twice again. what the fuck can I do to get rid of these urges

No.15908
>>15906
Crush you balls

No.15910>>15911>>15915>>15916>>15928
How do I develop the desire to fap or to engage in lust?

Serious question.

I want an easy challenge where all I have to do is do nothing to test my will.

I don't see how you guys find this difficult as fapping requires doing something and not fapping requires doing nothing.

No.15911>>15930
>>15910
Have you tried watching porn?

No.15915>>15916>>15930
>>15910
Raise your testosterone.

No.15916>>15930
>>15915
>>15910
You could try maca, goji berry, etc. for natural testosterone-boosting abilities, which would therefore increase your sex drive (theoretically). In practice, though, it seems not to matter if you already have no/little desire for sex or fapping.

Go pay for an incredibly sexy semi-upscale prostitute (~$80-100; backpages.com) and then tell her you just want to sit around and talk/ practice some lighthearted magic with her. That way, you're "losing out" at least on money by maintaining virtue. She may even make a few attempts to service you, which would raise the level of difficulty.

No.15919>>15920>>15930>>15957
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I realize this is an addiction
it's just that I'm so lonely and no girl would look at me, it's like a constant itch you can't scratch, I can feel all this lust in my flesh and wanting to have sex.
this is my 4th day porn free, but last night I spent about an hour just rolling in my bed thinking about this girl and constantly edging
at least I can try to use this constant desire to motivate myself for lucid dreaming, it's something I want to master but if I fap before I sleep I lose any motivation to dream journal next morning and my dream memory is already kind of fuzzy, you can check on pic related: if I didn't write anything in my dream journal is because I had a wank the night before.

No.15920
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No.15924
>>15906
You could start with less time. You could start with one day, then two, and so on.

Also, if you can get rid of your porn, stop going on porn site, or site with heavy focus on porn (like 4chan).

From my experience, having a computer doesn't help at all and make the pledge more difficult.

And it's not the urge you want to get rid off. Havind urge is totally normal, the goal is to use these urge to work on something more meaningful.
try doing something when you feel the urge getting stronger, something you can concentrate on and lose yourself in. For me sport work well.

Fourth day now, going for 25 days.

Good luck !

No.15928>>15929>>15930
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>>15910
Browse 4chan for seven years while fapping to increasingly degenerate porn all the while thinking fapping up to 5 times a day is perfectly normal and healthy and after that time end up being addicted and fapping to the thought of being addicted to porn and losing your will, listening to erotic hypnosis and noticing you are starting to like feminization and sissy hypno/porn more until you seriously start to crave it and become addicted to the emasculation feeling it gives you after and during 5 hour edging sessions. Then slowly come to terms and realize you have become addicted to porn without realizing it and feel like you have been taking the wrong path in life for many years and wondering how you will fix yourself and stop browsing porn and instead start on helping yourself spiritually which you have almost abandoned entirely.

There, I just saved you seven years of a debilitating and increasing addiction. Now realize how lucky you are you have not burdened yourself with such an illness in your life and go meditate or practice magicks I don't know.

No.15929>>15931
>>15928
I hope you are getting better and still not craving the taste of cock or the feeling of it sliding in and out of your sissy ass, faggot.

No.15930
>>15911
Yeah and I don't really get aroused unless I make an effort to will myself into being aroused and it's hard to stay like that and even then I don't feel any actual compulsion to fap. Porn just makes me feel sad really.

>>15915
How? Also isn't testosterone bad for you health-wise?

>>15916
I've ate Goji berries before but I don't recall being anymore lustful back then.

>Go pay for an incredibly sexy semi-upscale prostitute (~$80-100; backpages.com) and then tell her you just want to sit around and talk/ practice some lighthearted magic with her. That way, you're "losing out" at least on money by maintaining virtue. She may even make a few attempts to service you, which would raise the level of difficulty.


Hmmmm no. I don't have money to waste on something so silly. Reminds me though of some stuff Ghandi was known to do regarding sleeping with naked women but not having sex with them.

>>15919
I am always lucid when I dream and I seem to remember more of my dreams than I remember what I did during the days. I don't really know what I do while awake.

>>15928
I've been browsing imageboards for years and I keep seeing the weird shit you guys post but despite that I've not become a porn addict or started fapping. I've even been to some porn sites and just watched for a few minutes then closed the tabs and felt depressed at what I saw. It really pisses me off that in porn they rarely seem to have normal sex, they always keep doing sodomy and stuff, it's so disgusting.

No.15931>>15935>>15936>>15943
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>>15929
It was never more than just a fetish anon. I never allowed myself to become so deluded into thinking that I actually wanted these things, no matter what the hypnosis or endless porn stream told me.

I still like 3DPD though, in fact thanks to acquiring a bimbo fetish I like even more kinds of 3DPD now, even those valley girl blonde bimbos that I never found attractive before.

Still would rather never have had to deal with this fetish in the first place honestly.

There are some lost souls who let the porn become their lifestyle though and turn themselves into "girls" so they can go live out their porn fantasies and I feel truly sorry for them.

No.15935>>15939
>>15931
I wish I could capture you and keep you in some cellar for a month and waterboard you every day in and brainwash you until I manage to remove all the vice and impurity from you.

No.15936>>15939
>>15931
Well go bang an airhead then. One with pigtails and blowing bubblegum. With a name like 'Candy' or something, maybe with a k at the start and an i at the end.

No.15939>>15942
>>15935
Any outside assistance or influence would be detrimental to my cause.

I seek to end this addiction through nothing but sheer willpower and determination, with the exception of meditation I guess, meditation and willpower will cleanse me spiritually and set me on the right path again.

>>15936
I don't even want to, I want to overcome lust. How can I hope to find the perfect woman for me out there if I cannot even control this addiction, it would be fruitless now, and detrimental as well.

I probably only like dumb blondes because of the fetish anyways, but in real life it probably would be boring as I would have nothing in common and I can't talk to women anyways without getting anxiety and stuttering my words so whats the point.

No.15940
To show the failures it can be done, I pledge fifty two weeks. I will not give in. This shall be so easy.

No.15942>>15946>>15953
>>15939
…but enduring torture will test your will as well.

>dumb blondes


The women who dye their hair blonde are in fact dumb. The naturally blonde women are not.

No.15943>>15944>>15946
>>15931
4chan made me pick up several fetishes but I managed to overcome all. I had to leave for good too, browsing /b/ all day really turns you into an animal. I try to take it as a learning experience, now I know just how important it is not to be dragged around by your lower self.

Still can't get over my "original" obsession…but at least Im moving towards the opposite direction now and I don't fap all day. How to beat bad habits? Remplace them with good ones… As simple and as complicated as that.

No.15944>>15945>>15949
>>15943
Of all the boards, why /b/?

No.15945>>15954
>>15944
not him but a lot people start up on /b/ including myself.

the initial ride of gore porn and hatred of everything was quite thrilling but after some time anyone can recognize the repeating images and threads.

this ultimately made me move to /pol/ to hate some new things and eventually find fringe.

4chon is kind of like life, your browsing habits tend to change and mature with time progressing from edgy /b/ teen to something more refined.

No.15946>>15947>>15949
>>15942
Not in the way I want it to be tested hehe.

>The naturally blonde women are not.

I agree, maybe I should have explained better, but now I find even natural blondes attractive when before I didn't. This is perhaps the only good outcome to emerge from my fetish as now I can appreciate the beauty of a wider range of women than ever before.

>>15943
Browsing /d/ gave me among many others a monstergirl fetish, which I am thankful for as monstergirls are awesome and the game was fun too.

No.15947>>15955>>15985
>>15946
If you yourself are not blonde haired you should not sully the Nordic race with your swarthoid genes. Just find a fellow swarthoid female and impregnate her instead.

If you have red hair though I don't care.

I personally have both a red hair gene and a blonde hair gene, making me super ultra white++.

No.15949
>>15944
I think was mostly the shock factor mixed with porn, violence and funny things.

Later I moved on to /tv/, /ic/, then /x/ for a little while and I was gone for good.

>>15946
Monster girls are awesome, as long as you have it under control and prefer a real woman in the end I think it can be a healthy thing to like them. You can use them as a way to express yourself symbolically, which enhances creativity, just like many cultures such as the greeks or egyptians did in the past. Anthro is making a huge comeback trough them, its been quite a breath of fresh air. As a drawfag Im hoping to make worthwile contributions to the genre in the future.

No.15953
>>15942
It's funny because blondes are proven to have higher-than-average IQ's compared to other ethnic groups.

No.15954
>>15945
Exact same with me, except /x/ as well as /pol/.

No.15955>>15968
>>15947
Red hair and blonde hair have different genetic markers, technically redheads are still blonde.

No.15957
>>15919
There is definitely a correlation for me between fapping/edging and not remembering my dreams and not being motivated enough for lucid dream/OBE attempts.

It's actually slightly relieving to know I'm not the only who is trying hard to lucid dream but keeps getting distracted by porn and lust and whatever.

It's a tough thing to break out of.

No.15960
>Find another outlet for your time and energy. Fill your life with engaging activities. The excitement of doing something different can help replace the urge to masturbate, and you'll have a go-to distraction next time you're tempted. Try some of these options:

>Be creative. The process of turning sexual urges into creative output (called sublimation) is something on which monks and sages have relied upon for centuries. Start writing, learn to play a musical instrument, paint, draw, or do whatever else makes you feel like you're doing something productive.

No.15968>>16633
>>15955
What? Did you write your sentence correctly there? If they have different genetic markers how are redheads blondes?

My hair appears blonde but I still have my red hair gene it's just recessive.

No.15985>>15987
>>15947
Funny you say that as I had blonde hair as a kid but now its brown.

Anyways who I choose to fall in love with blonde or redhead shouldn't concern you as there are far bigger issues like what is happening in Sweden, France, Britain etc and the stupid multi-culti ideology weakening Europe to her core.

No.15987
>>15985
>Funny you say that as I had blonde hair as a kid but now its brown.

Don't care, pretty much all European children have blonde hair when young, even the ones that ultimately turn to black.

No.15994>>15995>>16003>>16007>>16012
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I am on my celibate journey. I'm at 30 days right now and plan to go for at least 90 days. I wanted to go a year but I'm honestly not sure if I can make it there.

This shit is spiritual as fuck for me. I spent most of my life entrapped by my fetish. It is really really really hard to break free from fetishes because they seem to have a unique power over you that normal porn simply does not contain.

Once I started to cut off my desire of lust, I had less anxiety about things, I give less fucks, and it gives me the energy cut off other desires and actually exercise (Which is really odd because I always thought exercise was useless and not spiritual).

I know I can make it to 90 day, but I really want to make it to a year. I heard that to even begin to understand the Tao you have to be celibate for a year.

No.15995
>>15994
I started fifty two weeks the other day. We can make it.

No.15996>>15998
Alright.. I go for. One week.

No.15998
>>15996
C'mon, make it two and you're getting somewhere.

No.16003>>16007
>>15994

Most Taoist sources recommend that things like this be done in 100 day increments. So if you're experimenting with a certain meditation or practice or exercise, do it daily for 100 days. If you're going for a period of celibacy, or giving up a certain vice, do it for 100 days.

Alternatively, there's the European version, which is a year and a day (a year for whatever it is, and a day for reflection afterwards).

Personally I'm not completely celibate, but I've cut back to twice monthly, which is what was recommended by my teacher. I find each time I can stretch it longer though, and plan to reach once a month and then eventually do the 100 days.

No.16007
>>16003
The standard quota I hear mentioned for stopping a bad habit or acquiring a new habit is about a month. Not sure if that applies to this or not though.

>>15994
>This shit is spiritual as fuck for me. I spent most of my life entrapped by my fetish. It is really really really hard to break free from fetishes because they seem to have a unique power over you that normal porn simply does not contain.

Oh yeah I hear ya, if this was just normal vanilla porn I would have an easier time, but a fetish is different, mixed with a porn addiction and its downright tough to break.

Tough but not impossible.

No.16011>>16012>>16014>>16086
I've passed the 90 mark, and more, but I cannot remember how many days - I haven't counted. I was seriously crippled by my desires, as if I was possessed by some legion of Lust. Pornography is absolutely disgusting and a sure way to turn men with great Potential into hedonistic masses.

To get past it took me many, many tries and many disappointments.

I assure you, brethren, that complete celibacy is not overly difficult to maintain, though I admit that at moments of weakness (luckily rare!) I sometimes peek quickly at porn but regret it fast - however, I don't masturbate at all. Only times when I ejaculate is at nights when asleep but those happen very rarely nowadays.

Remember to sleep on your side, not on your belly. Otherwise there is a chance that you will ejaculate while asleep. Do Quiet Mind meditation.

No.16012
>>16011
I meant to reply to >>15994

No.16014>>16119
>>16011
That's inspiring as hell, well done.

No.16086>>16090>>16119
>>16011
Yeah man. I also feel I HAVE to peek at some porn from time to time just to satisfy the dopamine response that it gives. I also regret it because then you want to go further but you realize you have to stop looking or fall down further.

I always take that line of thinking to the end point. You will never be able to satisfy yourself with sex, it is a fleeting moment of pleasure and that is it. I always think about that and snap out of it.

No.16090
>>16086
I just visualized a naked woman instead of looking at porn. Get better at visualization that way.

No.16103>>16104
Pledging one week from today. I have to, my whole will is drained.

No.16104>>16311
>>16103
It is getting so damn difficult to stop fapping. I broke and had sex with a girlfriend after i had a hard time quitting, but god damn, living with fapping and porn and the need for sex and lust is more torture than denying it.

No.16108>>16119
Since the original thread and this one I have failed many times but I will go on this time as well, I must not cease, by now I have become jaded and indifferent towards fapping sometimes even when the urge comes out of nowhere, which is a good sign.

I cannot stop now and allow myself to sink deeper into an unnecessary and downright futile addiction. I'm going to meditate every day from now on as well so I can better resist the temptations.

Right now when I see something that arouses me or I just get the urge to fap as dictated by habitual response, I will test my willpower and self control by simply not doing anything, not going on any of the porn sites, not changing or exiting out of the browser, I'll simply take that moment to breathe deeply and be still.

It really is that initial urge and the uncomfortable nagging feeling if I don't respond to it habitually as always that gets me, it's a very uncomfortable feeling, perhaps the sensation of withdrawl -occurring even after just a day of not browsing porn.

Well as long as I don't do anything I figure, the urge will have no control over me, in fact it will be I who will have self-control over my actions in that moment and will prove to myself that no fetish has dominion over me by simply not doing anything but breathing deeply and calmly for a few minutes, taking the time that would be spent pathetically browsing site after site fapping to porn, and instead using it to calm myself, and reaffirm my own self control.

No.16115>>16119>>16631
Guys, you're expending so much energy trying to repress these thoughts and that's what's biting your ass, like trying to put down a wild dog by calling another wild dog to fight it. Just be aware of the lusts as they arise and yourself as the one experiencing them. Don't lose yourself in them, and at the same time don't lose yourself in the counter-thinking. Be still, you're the master.

No.16116
>>15782
I failed. Set my goals too high, saw one lewd image and felt the urge. Blew a gigantic load.
Starting again, current goal: Now to Sept. 5.

No.16119>>16631
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>>16014
>>16108
Just remember that you will never lose if you never give up. You have already won your animal desires because you are aware of them and willing to control them.

One who wills, will.

>>16086
Desire is a smoldering wood; kindle it and it will surely burn you, but leave it unattended and its smoke might choke you. What to do? Watch it carefully and wait until its smolder finally ends. That way it won't be lit or take you 'by surprise'. This person here points out what I want to say, >>16115.


When lust comes, sit down and observe. Don't drown in the river of desire, or fight back the great currents, the mighty torrents. Simply observe and float, float above it all; soon you're on dry land, brethren, and it's all for you.

'Great excess leads to great dissatisfaction', as Buddhists and Epicureans have it realized.

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Relapsed, make it a week again.

No.16311>>16365
>>16104
I broke again.

I pledge one week again from today. Actually– two weeks. I had amazong thoughts of real love with a woman and thoughts of getting married and having children. Then I had a porn image on an add pop up and I couldnt stop myself, it was too soon. I nearly stopped twoce but I eventually caved to my need for lust over love.

Ill keep trying till im free and find a wife damnit!

No.16332>>16333
Just keep going, each break gets longer and longer, until one day you wake up and the urge is gone - even when you wake up with morning wood, you've developed the discipline to say it's better to just ignore it for a few minutes and wait for it to go away than to set yourself back energetically.

No.16333>>16341
>>16332
I also noticed that my mana was in much hitler supply when I stopped masturbating.


Do we have any resources on using the sexual energy for magic purposes?

No.16334
One thing in my attempts at conquering this addiction is that I cannot figure out if I should meditate and do all of those things immediately to help and promote a clear and focused mind, or if I should wait to first meditate and the like until one or two weeks of celibacy?

For some reason I feel like this is an important question yet it probably isn't.

No.16341
>>16333

>much hitler supply


lol.

But yeah, orgasm wastes huge amounts of vital energy, for both sexes but especially for men. You're literally throwing your spiritual essence away in a tablespoon of white goo.

Even if you're practicing a system which doesn't rely directly on the accumulation and alchemical transformation of generative energy, it's still going to set you back, especially if you're just jerking off to porn instead of having sex in the context of a loving, spiritually open relationship.

No.16345>>16350
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>>16307
Argh again what the hell.

I'm still trying to see this in a positive way, like with every relapse and every regret I refine and reassess what I have been doing and what led to the relapse and what I can do to prevent it in the future.

For instance since undergoing this mighty struggle I didn't keep track of the days I did not fap, but now I decided I will as that may motivate me more, for instance if I see that I have 2 days left till a full week of no fap accomplished - a feat not reached since a year, well then that may be what is necessary to spur me on and reach that milestone and continue on.

No.16350>>16351
>>16345
Wrap barbed wire around your member. Relapse will equal mutilation, maybe even make you bleed to death. All or nothing man!

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>>16350
Now that's taking it to the xtreme.

But if you think about it, a method like that and a similar method of locking yourself out of porn sites are extreme measures, that rely on outside factor to keep you from relapsing back.

But I can't shake the belief that I have to go through with this through just willpower and self-control alone, no extreme measures, and regularly meditating in order to keep myself mindful and aware, and sort of build up my natural "defenses" against the urge to fap.

No.16352>>16353
>>16351
Well perhaps you could force yourself on any available, attractive woman when the mood strikes. Bear in mind that if you cover her mouth she can't scream for help or even say no, so it doesn't count as rape. Kill her after you finish if you want to make sure she will not press charges. Burn the body, rather than bury it.

No.16353
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>>16352
/edgy/, please.

No.16354>>16360>>17086
>>11855
>Fibonacci guy

I just finished browsing through the entirety of the old thread, your posts are hella inspirational, any updates yet?

Have you conquered lust and porn and fapping forever?

No.16360
>>16354
Agreed. He also posted pretty much the only solid tantra material I've found so far on /fringe/.
>>12383 (@Fibonacci guy, old thread)
Thanks for the links. Sacred-sex site seems more of a compilation of stuff than a stand-alone but definitely useful, if for nothing more than quotes. Chia is what I've been looking for for weeks.

Speaking of quotes, one guy in old thread suggested it was ok to bust in sleep…
>According to the explanation of the Kalachakra Tantra in particular, such emission is said to be very damaging to your practice. Therefore, because you should not experience emission even in dreams, the tantras describe different techniques for overcoming this fault." - The 14th Dalai Lama -

No.16365>>16366
>>16311
Broke again.

Pure lust this time. I really am feeling that depressive loneliness now, I keep staring at pictures of naked beautiful women, but I know that porn has sapped and desicrated my confidence in myself and my manliness.

I cant even talk to women where in week 2 a month ago I could easily joke and talk with a beautiful blonde at my gym.


Trying again. Wish me luck.

No.16366
>>16365
You can do it.

No.16374
Meditate upon the female form and work to construct that form in your mind every day and see it in all its beauty and you will conquer your lust.

No.16375>>16376
Personal Power – Volume XII

IV – Transmutation of Sex‐Energy

In the preceding section of this book we have considered the more commonly and better known secondary or derivative attributes and characteristics of Sex. Therein, you have perceived that Sex‐Energy is directed by Nature not alone along the channels of the primary activities of Sex concerned directly with the performance of the sexual functions and with the processes of the physical generation and development of the offspring, but also along certain special channels which are concerned with the evolution and maintenance of certain special physical, mental, and emotional characteristics of the living forms—which special characteristics would not have been developed, and would not be maintained, were the Sex‐Energy inoperative.

In the present section you are asked to consider an additional, and very important, derivative manifestation of Sex‐Energy— one in which the general physical, mental, and emotional nature of the individual (apart from its employment in purely sexual activities) is strengthened, invigorated and given power by the indirect activities of Sex‐Energy. In short, you will be shown that Sex‐Energy may be, and indeed is; employed by Nature in the processes of Regeneration of the individual as well as in those of Generation or Reproduction.

This phase of the operation of Sex‐Energy is not so well known as are its other phases, and, indeed, for a long time Science was disposed to ignore or to deny the existence of such phase, leaving the knowledge of it, and the discussion concerning it, to the non‐scientific layman. But certain recent discoveries of Science have awakened new interest in the subject on the part of scientific observers. Science now having been supplied with a valid physiological basis for thought along these lines, it is extremely probable that the next twenty years will bring important scientific investigations and discoveries concerning the operation and the application of the natural laws involved in this particular subject.

As we have previously informed you, the esoteric philosophers and arcane schools of the ancient world recognized the presence and the operation of these natural laws of Regeneration, and made the study of them an important branch of their work and teaching. But here, as in other branches of knowledge, these ancient thinkers did not direct their thought along what are now known as “scientific lines.” Instead, they were in the habit of explaining all known facts by reference to occult causes— often supernatural causes. They were right concerning their facts, but their inductive reasoning was weakened by their habit of taking it for granted that “causes” were to be found only in the realms of the supernatural and not in Nature herself. The modern scientific mind, on the contrary, seeks ever to find a natural cause for all effects and activities perceived to exist in the natural world.

Accordingly, these ancient thinkers usually attributed both Generation and Regeneration to “occult” forces, or supernatural powers. They regarded Sex‐Energy as a Divine Principle in many cases, or else as a reflection of the Secret Creative Energy which they held to exist apart from the world though acting upon it. Modern Science, on the contrary, regards the Sex‐Energy merely as a phase of the manifestation of “That Infinite and Eternal Energy from which all things proceed,” and which is found present and operative in all natural processes. Modern Science finds in Nature all that the ancients were accustomed to regard as “super‐natural,” i. e., over and above Nature. It holds that “whatever is, is natural”—that whatever is possible of human knowledge, or in human experience, is “natural,” and that even where causes are as yet unknown they must be assumed to be in Nature and not outside of it.

The ancients knew little or nothing about the actual physiological processes of Generation as these are known to modern Science. They regarded Generation and Reproduction as caused by the union and mingling of two occult “forces” which abode in the beings of male and female creatures. Modern Science, in its branch known as Physiology, on the contrary, knows that Generation or Reproduction is caused by the union of the reproductive cells of the parent creatures—the “sperm” cells and the cells of the “ova” or egg. The microscope has revealed the character and the appearance of the spermatozoa and the ova, and the physical and physiological processes of Reproduction and Generation are definitely known and taught. Life itself, it is true, lies beyond the microscope or the dissecting‐knife—but Science at least is able to tell “just how Life works” in these processes.

In the same way, the ancients believed that Regeneration or the Transmutation of Sex‐Energy was caused by a direction of the occult “forces” of Generation along new channels. Modern Science, however, whenever it has investigated the subject at all, has held that this Regeneration or Transmutation of Sex‐Energy proceeds along the strict lines of physiological process. It holds that the sex‐glands of the male and female secrete certain elements which make for the invigoration of the mental and physical nature of the man or woman, just as do certain other glands of the body secrete certain elements which produce decided and marked effects upon the mind and body of the individual in whose body they exist and are active. Such special secretion of the sex‐glands being admitted or assumed as possible, Science finds no difficulty whatsoever in explaining the effects of Regeneration or Transmutation of Sex‐Energy.

No.16376>>16377>>16534
>>16375
Even before the recent scientific discoveries of the effects resulting from the transplantation of the sex‐glands into the bodies of the lower animals (and in a few instances into the bodies of human beings), there have been modern thinkers and writers upon the subject who have held that the sex‐glands are capable of such secretion of a “regenerative element,” and that in every individual the processes of Regeneration are operative to at least some extent; and that by the proper methods of application the secretion of these regenerative elements will be increased, and may be deliberately directed to the mental and physical processes of the individual. Such a conception is usually found to lie at the base of the teaching of certain modern schools of thought which advocate chastity, continence and sexual temperance on the part of their followers.

Thus, you see, these modern thinkers are really marching abreast with the ancient thinkers along the same lines—so far as the facts of the case are concerned. Though the ancients explained these facts by the theory of “occult forces,” or supernatural powers operative in the natural world, while the modern thinkers explain the same facts by the accepted laws of physiological process, there is a common agreement upon the facts of the case so far as the effects and phenomena are concerned. The effects are agreed upon as true, valid and existing, in both cases—though the “causes” assumed to account for the effects are quite different, at least on the surface of thought.

The following quotations from writers on this subject during the past twenty‐five years, or thereabouts, will serve to illustrate how the current of modern thought has been running in this direction—even before the recent discoveries concerning the internal secretions of the other glands of the body, and of the transplantation of the sex‐glands, to both of which we have just referred. In each of the following quotations the writer is either a recognized medical authority upon the subject, or else a layman who has given careful attention to, made careful observations, and conducted careful experiments along these lines. There are many others of equal authority who might have also been quoted in this connection—the following are merely a few selected from the great number of intelligent and competent authorities available.

Dr. Kellogg, advocating the continent life, says: “The sexual function is double in its purpose. First, the sexual organs are always active, even when not excited to such a degree as to obtrude their activity upon the consciousness, as they supply the body with a needed vital stimulus and regulator. Secondly, they furnish the only means by which the physical life of the individual and the perpetuation of the race may be accomplished. In neither of these important functions is the personal gratification of the individual the primary consideration. The exercise of the sexual function with a purely selfish purpose would seem to be a debasement of the sacred function in which man approaches most nearly to the creative power of which he is the image.”

Dr. Nicholas says: “It is a medical and physiological fact that the best blood of the body goes to form the elements of reproduction in both sexes. In a pure and orderly life this matter is reabsorbed. It goes back into the circulation ready to form the finest brain, nerve and muscular tissue. This life of man, carried back and diffused through his system, makes him manly, strong, brave, heroic. The suspension of the use of the generative organs is attended with a notable increase of bodily and mental vigor and spiritual life. Nature finds another use for the unexpended sexual energy in employing it for the building up of a keener brain, and more vital and enduring nerves and muscles.”

Dr. Kellogg, says again: “Recent investigations have shown that the sexual glands are useful, not only as a means of race‐perpetuation, but for the physical well‐being of the individual, through the vital stimulus exercised by them through the influence of their peculiar secretion upon the processes of development and nutrition. In view of this fact, it is evident that, so far as the individual is concerned, physical benefit is to be looked for, not in the loss of the secretion of the sexual glands, but in its retention and appropriation. In other words, reproduction is accomplished at the sacrifice of individual interests, a law which prevails throughout the whole organic world, being, in some instances, so pronounced that the development of progeny is accomplished only through the death of one or more parents. These discoveries afford thoroughly satisfactory and scientific explanations of two facts which heretofore have rested solely upon a basis of observation and experience, viz.: (1) That continence is favorable to physical vigor; (2) that sexual intemperance is productive of exhaustion and debility to a most extraordinary degree.”

Professor Acton says: “Physiologically considered, it is not a fact that the power of secretion is annihilated in well‐formed adults leading a healthy life, and yet remaining continent. No continent man need be deterred by the apocryphal fear of atrophy from leading a chaste life. It is a device of the unchaste, a lame excuse for their own incontinence, unfounded on any physiological law. I may state that, after many years’ experience, I have never seen an instance of atrophy of the generative organs from this cause. I have, it is true, met the complaint; but in what classes of cases does it occur? It arises, in all instances, from the exactly opposite cause, abuse!”

Professor Newton says: “It is important to know that there are other uses for the procreative element than the generation of physical offspring; and far better uses than its waste in momentary pleasure. It may, indeed, be better wasted than employed in imposing unwelcome burdens upon toiling and outraged women. But there should be no waste. This element when retained in the system may be coined into new thoughts, perhaps new inventions, grand conceptions of the true, the beautiful, the useful; or into fresh emotions of joy, and impulses of kindness and blessing to all around. This is, in fact, but another department of procreation. It is the procreation of thoughts, ideas, feelings of good‐will, intuitions of truth— that is, it is the procreation on the mental and spiritual planes, instead of on the physical plane. It is really just as really a part of the generative function as is the begetting of physical offspring. It is by far the greater part, for physical procreation can ordinarily be participated in but seldom, while mental and spiritual procreation may and should go on through all our earthly lives—yea, through all our immortal existence.”

Dr. Stockham says: “Physicists have demonstrated with incontrovertible facts that it is eminently healthy to conserve the vital principle. The seminal secretion has a wonderfully immanent value; and, if retained, is absorbed into the system and adds enormously to man’s magnetic, mental, and spiritual force. In ordinary married life this force is constantly being wasted. Other things being equal, the man who wisely conserves is improved in concentrated mental and physical power and effectiveness, like a Daniel amid his companions. He builds, and constructs, he is the organizer and executive head of industries, he is the orator and the inventor. He is the leader of great movements, because his power is drawn from an inexhaustible storage battery. Although woman has not the sperm to conserve, yet equally with man she has the thrilling potency of sex, that, when well directed, heals sensitive nerves, vitalizes the blood, and restores tissue.”

Dr. Talmey says: “Continence, if long continued, has been claimed to be the cause of impotence. But there is no valid reason for this belief. To prove the harmfulness of continence, an analogue is brought forward between the atrophy of a muscle in enforced idleness and the injury to the sex organs in enforced abstinence. But the proof is somewhat feeble. The essential organs of generation are not muscles, but glands; and who has ever heard of a tear gland atrophying for want of crying. * * * The instinct of generation has been compared with the instinct of hunger and thirst, and as the latter must be satisfied, so it is held the former must be gratified. But there is no proper parallelism between these two instincts. Food and drink are vital necessities of the organism from the first day of conception, to replace the stuffs consumed in the metabolism of the vital functions. The generative instinct appears a number of years after birth, hence does not serve any vital necessity.”

Dr. Stockham says: “The testes may be considered analogous to the salivary and lachrymal glands, in which there is no fluid secreted except at the demand of their respective functions. The thought of food makes the mouth water for a short time only, while the presence of food causes abundant yield of saliva. It is customary for physiologists to assume that the spermatic secretion is analogous to bile, which, when once formed, must be expelled. But substitute the word ‘tears’ for bile, and you put before the mind an idea entirely different. Tears, as falling drops, are not essential to life and health. A man may be in perfect health and not cry once in five or fifty years. The lachrymal fluid is ever present, but in such small quantities that it is unnoticed. Where are the tears while they remain unshed? They are ever ready, waiting to spring forth when there is an adequate cause, but they do not accumulate and distress the man because they are not shed daily, weekly or monthly.

“The component elements of the tears are prepared in the system, they are on hand, passing through the circulation, ready to mix and flow whenever they are needed; but if they mix, accumulate, and flow without adequate cause, there is a disease of the lachrymal glands. While there are no exact analogies in the body, yet the tears and the spermatic fluids are much more closely analogous in their normal manner of secretion and use than are the bile and the semen. Neither flow of tears nor of semen is essential to life or health. Both are largely under the control of the imagination, the emotions, the will; and the flow of either is liable to be arrested in a moment of sudden mental action. * * *

“The mammary gland is an apt illustration of the law of supply and demand. In its anatomical construction and physiological function is it not analogous to the seed‐producing gland of the male? No one has ever hinted that it is essential for health that the natural lacteal fluid of the mammary gland must be continually or frequently secreted or expelled. It is not considered ‘a physical necessity’ or a demand of nature. Indeed, the contrary opinion prevails—that a too abundant flow of milk is derogative to healthful conditions. Milk flows in answer to the demand of a new‐born infant, and, should it come at any other time than when thus demanded, it is considered a perversion of nature and an unnecessary drain upon the system. May it not prove that the unnecessary secretion and expulsion of the semen is as great a perversion of nature? May it not also prove that erectile tissue in action is not a positive evidence of secretion in the gland?”

Parkhurst, writing along the same general lines, says: “The prostatic fluid, according to Robin, is secreted at the moment of ejaculation. The remaining element of the spermatic ‘Secretion is produced, under normal circumstances, only as required, either for impregnation or for the maintenance of the affectional function. The theory that the sperm is naturally secreted only as it is required, brings it into harmony with other secretions. The tears, the saliva, and the perspiration, are always required in small quantities, and the secretion is continuous; but if required in large quantities, the secretion becomes great almost instantly. The mother’s milk is chiefly secreted just as it is required for the infant, and when not required the secretion entirely ceases; yet it recommences the moment the birth of another child makes it necessary. * * *

“A man accustomed to abstinence will not suffer from any accumulation of secretions, while a man whose absorbing glands have never had trouble to take up the secretions, will be in trouble; just as a dairy cow which has not been milked will be in trouble, though if running wild she would never have any necessity for milking. …… The objection that man needs physical relief from a continuous secretion, is answered by the admitted fact that men, not deficient in sexual vigor, live for months, and probably for years, in strict abstinence, without the physical inconvenience such as is often complained of by men who happen to be deprived of their accustomed indulgence for a week or two at a time.”

No.16377>>16378
>>16376
An anonymous writer on the subject of “Sex Polarity” (the identity of whom, however, is known to the present writers), several years ago, said:

“Nature devotes a great amount of energy to the task of reproducing living forms. Many of the lower forms of life seem to live merely for the purpose of reproducing life—of passing along the flame of life from torch to torch. Nature’s reproductive energies are highly concentrated, and are wonderfully potent. The amount of creative energy concentrated and compressed into the mustard seed is equal to that diffused over a whole large plant—in fact, the essence of the entire creative energy which is to serve the plant for its lifetime must be stored up within the seed itself, for the vital force cannot come from outside, although the outer nourishment is needed to build up the physical shape, form and substance of the plant. The germ of the animal contains within itself enough stored‐up energy to carry the creature through its normal period of life. In the processes of reproduction and procreation, Nature avails herself of her inner powers, and every minute she works miracles of concentration and conservation of energy.

“The ancient occultists recognized the wonderful power stored in the reproductive organism, which is given out not only in the act of actual reproduction and procreation, but which may also be dissipated in the unnatural excesses and practices to which the race is addicted. They soon discovered that this wonderful concentrated power could be used not only for the purpose of generation, but also for the purpose of re‐generation of the life activities within one’s own body, the exhaustion of which occurs if the vital forces be given out in procreation or waste. In other words, that the wonderfully concentrated forces of the sexual functions, if not otherwise used or dissipated, might be used by the individual himself or herself in re‐energizing, re‐charging, or re‐generating the vital powers within his or her own organism. This was one of the reasons that continence was enjoined as a duty upon the members of the ancient esoteric and occult brotherhoods and sisterhoods. * * *

“Outside of the list of the occult brotherhoods, all of whose staunch members were strictly continent, history gives us a long list of eminent men who followed the practice of continence, which indicates the correctness of the old occult teachings of generation. Newton, Kant, Paschal, Michael Angelo, Plato, and many other eminent men were strictly continent. All the great occultists and mystics of ancient times observed strict continence. The Greek athletes training for the great Olympic games were required to observe strict continence, the experience of the trainers being that by following this course the athletes were able to conserve their strength and vigor much better than otherwise. The prize‐fighters of today are compelled by their trainers and backers to observe strict continence during the period of training for the combat. Many of the former ‘champions’ who ‘went to pieces’ suddenly, owe their downfall to a violation of this rule.”

Dr. Henderson, reporting his experience among men subjected to great strain in tropical countries, said: “I have seen many suffer severely, destroying their strength, health, and happiness, and life, by following the promptings of their unbridled passions. Need I say that I have never seen a man suffer from keeping himself pure.” Dr. Talmey says: “The conventional view that incontinence in men is a necessary condition of health must be corrected. Instead of the popular fallacy that a young man is physically the worse for a clean moral life, the entire weight of the world’s foremost medical scholars is unreservedly of the opinion that he is physically better for it. It is recognized by the highest authorities that continence is perfectly compatible with the most perfect health. Chastity, properly understood, is health; it never does harm to mind or body. It is the consensus of the opinions of the great medical thinkers that it is not prejudicial to the health of man to keep his body clean.”

Dr. Armitage says: “A writer has said: ‘Chastity, yes, even continence, is the prime necessity of the successful athlete.’ It is further urged in support of this view, that the male animals, even those so active sexually as the bull, are known to maintain perfect health and vigor when forced to live apart from the females. Moreover, the best breeders of animals know very well that restraint and moderation on the part of their male animals will result in an improvement of the stock, as compared with the opposite course.” Dr. Kellogg also has reminded us that: “Breeders of stock who wish to secure sound progeny will not allow the most robust stallion to associate with mares as many times during the whole season as some of these salacious human males perform a similar act within a month.”

Dr. Sperry says: “It is true that moderate sexual activity tends, temporarily, at least, to increase and intensify the sexual impulses and energies; but such exaltation of sexuality is not evidence of increased general healthfulness and efficiency. If the usual physiological expression of sexuality be held in check, its energies (which most easily, it is true, seek expression in sexual lines) are transferred to the other departments, to which they contribute largely in the life and power of each, and in the material addition of general vigor. The force then becomes creative, or productive, in other lines. In other words, sexuality, if it be denied the reproductive expression, and provided that it also be kept from artificial excitation, seems to develop a sort of dynamic force or energy, which the nutritive, the motor, and the relational departments can use to their individual and collective advantage.

“On the other hand, those who unnaturally or excessively expend along sexual lines what may seem to them to be exclusively sexual energy, available only for sexual expression, thereby deprive the system at large of what might have become general stimulation and vitality. Indeed, the sexual department of a continent adult seems to be a sort of storage battery of vitality, a veritable reservoir for surplus energy. This energy, which seems so like a tremendous dynamic force, may be expended just as each individual shall elect: it may be wasted in lustful and abnormal sensuality; or it may be used partly for the legitimate purposes of reproduction, and the remainder in lustful practices; or it may be expended in exalting and intensifying the nutritive, the muscular, and the mental life. This remarkable fact is of great practical importance.”

Illustrations and quotations along the same lines might be continued at much greater length, but those which have just been presented will serve to give you a general idea of the thought concerning this subject which has been current among thinking persons for the last twenty‐five years and more. Some of these modern thinkers are fully cognizant of the resemblance of their thought to that of the ancients whose minds had been directed along the same channels; others seem not to have been aware of the fact that as long ago as twenty‐five hundred years or more the thoughts of men were striving to uncover the workings of this same principle.

You will note, however, that these modern seekers after truth along these lines employ the terms of physiology instead of those of metaphysics or of occultism. They have been striving to account for the phenomena of Regeneration or Transmutation of Sex‐Energy by the theories of “gland secretions” and similar physiological processes. This is especially remarkable in view of the fact that, at the time when most of the above‐quoted statements of fact and theory were written by the persons named, the recent scientific discoveries concerning the effect of the secretions of the ductless glands had not as yet been made, nor had there been as yet conducted the recent experiments in gland transplantation which have given positive evidence of the proof of the general theory of Regeneration or Transmutation of Sex‐Energy.

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No.16405>>16416
Regarding transmutation, a practice I was utterly ignorant of before I read about it in the previous thread.

That fibonacci apple guy posted this site and I found something quite interesting browsing the various articles, shown here-

http://sacred-sex.org/facts/articles/231-semen-retention.html

Of interest in this specific article is:

>Yet, in all of these cases, the mere retention of the energy is not enough. Energy cannot be stored easily or without effort. Experiments with semen retention quickly reveal how agitated and anxious the person can become if they do not know how to direct that energy in a new way. This is why the ancient spiritual traditions taught techniques of transmutation to the initiates. Without transmutation of the retained energy, the trapped forces find other avenues to flow through: such as mental preoccupation, fanaticism, fantasy, obsessive behaviors, depression, and other serious psychological problems. Thus, if you intend on saving your sexual energy, be sure to adopt new behaviors to direct those energies in a healthy way. Some suggestions include:


>Meditation

>Pranayama
>Sports and physical exercise
>Regular, concentrated enjoyment of classical music or art
>Deep breathing practices
>Tibetan exercises
>Runic exercises

And here upon reading I thought transmutation was some deeply complicated process or the like but it seems to be far more simple than I could have thought. What's remarkable is that many times when I tried to abstain before I would sort of do some of the things above sometimes, but never committed to them, maybe just the first day or the next, then I would suddenly stop meditating regularly or deep breathing, etc and like a fool I thought I felt well and could handle the next few days without any meditation or deep breathing and the like, maybe I had gotten involved playing a videogame all day or something else gripped my attention, and sometimes I wasn't even certain how I should go about no fapping, was I to start off meditating/deep breathing daily despite it being so difficult at times for many reasons (mainly worrying if I was doing it right), or the other possibility held sway that perhaps I should first last a week or so through sheer willpower alone without meditating and doing any of those other things.

That turned out to be the wrong assumption, yet one I could not end up falling towards any time that I attempted no-fap because I thought stupidly that well if I force myself by will not to fap then a week into it I should no doubt be more focused and able to meditate and deep belly breathe with ease, and it should be easier for me to resume my countless lucid dream/AP/OBE attempts as well. This always failed in the end and I couldn't piece together why.

Then I finally found that previous thread on here, gave it a careful read through and became aware of transmutation, so I read about it, and damn near facepalmed myself when I read that section I just posted, these are the things I should have been indeed doing all along, it was foolish to attempt to undergo no-fap without "channeling/transmutating" the "energy" or what have you, even if I may have started off attempting to do daily meditations I would never commit long enough and would fail countless times again and again, unsure or ignorant of as to why.

Though I am grateful to have come upon this crucial information now. Most of the activities listed I'm familiar with except for runic and tibetan exercises and perhaps proper pranayama. But to see things like meditation, deep breathing exercises, even enjoying classical art and music which I love to do is just quite incredible, and classical music and art is almost always deeply moving and inspiring. All of these things I think are excellent activities and tools against the bane of addiction and and endless cycle of fap, regret, fap, regret etc.

Gotta read more on transmutation, other sources and sites, but so far I think it makes sense, I almost dismissed it upon coming across it but then I questioned why and I realized I really was sort of drifting spiritually because of the sheer length and depth of my fap/porn addiction and almost thought the entire thing too absurd to have any meaning of truth.

tl;dr- transmutation, read about it, try it.

Anyone here have a similar experience?

No.16416
>>16405
This is very true

And so obvious even if people don't believe in the occult

To direct energy to more productive goals should be common knowledge

No.16440>>16441>>16490
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INstead of fapping a lot in a day, i have managed just to get it to once a day which for me is pretty big.
I think i am on the verge of becoming free of this mundane bullshit, meditation and keeping myself busy with other things has really helped.
Remember fellow mystics.
*Meditation
*Keep self busy
*Try to distance yourself from temptation.

No.16441>>16443>>16452>>16490
>>16440
Also having a routine is great.
I've put together a routine for my week.
Working out and meditation, thus i am not really spending anytime on my pc because i'm out riding my bike to the countryside and meditating.
You can do it, takes willpower.
Disregard fapping
Acquire Spiritual awakening

No.16443>>16445
>>16441
You forgot stop being a damned filthy communist scumbag. Nothing you do other than that can help.

No.16445>>16446>>16490
>>16443
I could smell you coming a mile away.

No.16446>>16447>>16450
>>16445
Good for you, goy. No commie's existence will go unnoticed by a National Socialist.

No.16447>>16450
>>16446
Good for you :)

No.16450>>16469
>>16446
>>16446
>>16447
Are you one of those National Socialists who hate the kkk because they stereotype them as rednecks and you hate skinheads because you think they're all white trash (gee, i guess all white people aren't perfect, huh?).

Natsocs are just pompous frightened idiots who pretend they're better than the other fascist scum because they're too afraid to deal with the real problem: They hate themselves. So feel free to keep blaming everyone else around you and comparing yourself to some idealized bullshit concept of a "real" national socialist so you don't have to deal with the fact that you're the same as the rest of the nazi trash.

No.16452>>16490>>16493
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>>16441
> thus i am not really spending anytime on my pc because i'm out riding my bike to the countryside and meditating.

I will never know this sublime joy

;-;

No.16468
I don't fight any sexual urges at all I just don't express them via the physical touching of muh dick with hand like you guys do.

If you all knew how transfer your sexual energy into other things you wouldn't be wasting this energy looking at porn and whatever else you do.

When I am in a state of arousal I use it for magic but not as some might imagine by fapping, instead it's more like used to commune with the universe, fuck I don't know how to explain this to you guys it's some shamanic shit.

How it's experienced is I feel like I expand from the body and tend to connect with and see a lot of things and take them in rapidly, that's how the actual experience is. I don't know what it'll be that I will see.

I don't feel a building up of pressure, it's all released / flows easily, and the desire or whatever doesn't build up.

I do a lot of chakra meditations too and if there's an excess of energy somewhere I may simply move it to another chakra where it's needed.

If you feel aroused, focus for a moment on your sexual organs, then transfer the focus and feeling up through the body and the spine and over the skin and everything and make the energy rise and flow around everywhere.

If you want do a mantra while focusing on the head and seeing random scenes pour into you rapidly and expanding your consciousness, that works too.

This sexual impulse is powerful and I wouldn't want to waste it on something like fapping which is so stupid. I don't relate well to your desire to express sexual energy through fapping to porn like some silly cuckold sitting there at your computer.

Sexual energy is a creative force and is supposed to be used that way. Also remember what energy without information is useless, what sort of thoughts you form with that energy, will build up into something which is useful and powerful… unless you're just giving it away to random whores you fap to which is such a waste.

I never fap.

No.16469
>>16450
>implying antifa aren't the most extreme embodiment of self-hate

They hate themselves, they hate their own people, they hate absolutely anything that reminds them of their origins and ancestral blood and so on. They so completely reject and hate themselves they seek to totally destroy everything they are through racial defilement.

No.16490>>16492>>16512>>16560
>>16440
>>16441
>>16445
You're communist? Just curious!

>>16452
Why? Do you live in a city?

I've had my most intense meditation experience while meditating in winter near a frozen river, I heated up suddenly. Now I realized why I haven't managed to meditate as well as I did before, too - I need to sit on hard ground, not on soft bed.

No.16492>>16494>>16508
>>16490
Anarcho-Communist
Say if anarcho-communism came into effect.
I would gladly let people go off and form their own communities i.e white supremacists, Like if you just wanna live with your own then fine as long you don't oppress or kill people just because you think their blood line is degenerate or un pure.
Do what you want when the state is gone.

No.16493>>16512
>>16452
Move to the countryside or near to one.
Life is much better.
The smell is just perfect.

No.16494>>16495
>>16492
As an authentic Aryanist National Socialist if those 'white supremacist' communities you mentioned formed they would be opposed and destroyed along with any communists, zionists and other undesirables. If you cannot comprehend the importance of purifying the Aryan bloodlines you are a genetic dead end that should not be permitted to breed. Respecting folk independence, you may be allowed to live until death in a socialist nation.

No.16495>>16501
>>16494
Whatever you say…

No.16500>>16501>>16507
>>16497
I see.
I'm only here for esoteric discussion.
but whenever i post i always get some NAtSoc telling me i'm scum.
like that is gonna do anything lol.
Well whatever gets you off really.

No.16501
>>16495
Sorry, I'm making the discussion confusing because I made some errors while replying. Anyways, here's my reply I removed;
>I see! Anarchist communism resonates well in me. I need to study politics.

>>16500
I don't really mind if people talk politics here, but this board should be for esoteric discussion. The chat could be a good place to discuss politics but no one is online when I'm around.

No.16503
>>15821
five days in. Transgressed at about 10/11 PM. SO CLOSE.

No.16504>>16505
>>15641
>touching your genitals for purposes other than basic hygiene and expulsion of wastes.

So if I adjust my balls so that they aren't in such an uncomfortable position I just made baby jesus cry?

No.16505
>>16504
Cry and die. Also a whole litter of kittens get set on fire.

No.16507>>16535
>>16500
Why don't you post on /new/ and talk politics there. You seem to refuse to go over there, so all the conversations end up taking place here.

No.16508>>16510
>>16492
>anarcho-communism

What the fuck is this delusional bullshit? What am I going to hear of next, militant pacifism?

No.16510
>>16508
Hehe, maybe 'honest judaism' is next up?

No.16512
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>>16490
Yes, NYC of all the cities, there are few places where one can be at peace with nature and alone and also not feel paranoid about other people there too.

>>16493
I really wish I could, maybe I will yet one day, city life is extremely draining, I had to travel to Manhattan for work for a year and it was hell, I lost a great deal of any spiritual gain there because I became jaded and tired of the daily grind, the long hours standing on the packed subway, back and forth, back and forth.

I yearn for countryside, mountains, lush green hills and valleys and clear blue sky and clouds all around you, as far as you can see.

I can still meditate decently at home but it would be quite the experience to meditate outdoors, surrounded by nature without having to fear anything because the population density would be so much lower, etc.

No.16534
>>16376
>Dr. Nicholas says: “It is a medical and physiological fact that the best blood of the body goes to form the elements of reproduction in both sexes. In a pure and orderly life this matter is reabsorbed. It goes back into the circulation ready to form the finest brain, nerve and muscular tissue. This life of man, carried back and diffused through his system, makes him manly, strong, brave, heroic. The suspension of the use of the generative organs is attended with a notable increase of bodily and mental vigor and spiritual life. Nature finds another use for the unexpended sexual energy in employing it for the building up of a keener brain, and more vital and enduring nerves and muscles.”

Reading of this makes me lament all those countless wasted years of mine spent fapping, while ignorant of it all.

No.16535>>16537
>>16507
i'm not the one who sparks those shitty debates.
I post about something completely different and i get some fucking NatSoc , sparking some shitty debate.

No.16537
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>>16535
Stop being so kosher then, good goy commie. You make merchants very happy.

No.16560>>16561>>16567
>>16490

>I've had my most intense meditation experience while meditating in winter near a frozen river, I heated up suddenly. Now I realized why I haven't managed to meditate as well as I did before, too - I need to sit on hard ground, not on soft bed.


Meditating outdoor while in contact with the bare ground is recommended, as it allows equal intake of yin and yang energies (or whatever terminology you prefer). The degree to which this necessary depends on the system you're practicing, but it's always beneficial. A park or forest/woodland area is preferable - as far away from urban and suburban areas as possible, and being on a mountain is also of benefit.

There's a reason Eastern monasteries are built on mountains and practitioners going into seclusion for extended periods of practice go into the mountains - in fact in many Eastern countries, the name for a sage/yogi/magician/etc. often includes references to mountains. Amn example of this is Shugendo (the Japanese Buddhist sects which adopted Daoist methods of internal alchemy):

" Shugendō literally means "the path of training and testing"[2] or "the way to spiritual power through discipline."[3]"

"Those who practice shugendō are referred to in two ways. One term, shugenja (修験者), is derived from the term shugendō, literally meaning "a person of training and testing", i.e. "a person of shugen." The other term, yamabushi (山伏), means "one who lies in the mountains". "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shugend%C5%8D

Likewise, in China, the Daoist Sages who sought immortality (spiritual or physical) through the practice of internal alchemy were known as 'Hsien' - literally ""mountain men," because they retreated to the mountains to do so. The excess of dense yin energy in these locations allowed them to easily balance the yang energy they take in, a much more difficult task indoors in their schools of practice.

No.16561>>16569
>>16560
Can you please convert this into western occult terminology so I understand you better?

Is this feminine and masculine energy?

…or is more equivalent to fire and water as in the Franz Bardon system?

No.16567>>16570
>>16560
I wasn't aware of this, thanks! I'll start meditating outside again because being indoors doesn't give me the same, deep level of concentration. I guess this might be so because there's a lot of dogs and humans in the same apartment as I.

No.16569
>>16561

>Is this feminine and masculine energy?


Not precisely, but yin is feminine (or more properly, passive and receptive) and yang is active (or more properly, expansive and radiating). Their gendered alignments aren't the whole of their properties though.

>or is more equivalent to fire and water as in the Franz Bardon system


Bardon refers to them as the magnetic (yin) and electric (yang) fluids (energies) - terminology he borrowed from the mesmerism movement to prevent confusing Western readers with excessive Eastern terminology.

They aren't precisely the same as the water and fire energies, but they exist at the core of them. The air element contains at it's core an electromagnetic fluid (the vital force, or chi/prana in Chinese and Indian terminology) which consists of properties of both fluids (although it is more electric/yang than magnetic/yin, which is why it is hot when accumulated) and acts as the mediator which exists between them and allows them to interact, which is why the vital force is universally associated with breath.

The Earth element emerges from this interaction allowed by the air element and contains within it's core an electromagnetic, tetrapolar force which acts as the glue which binds these energies, and as such the cosmos, together, although as the Earth element is the opposite of the Air element, this tetrapolar force is more magnetic than electric (thus the need to balance the excess electric/yang energy brought in via breathing exercises during meditation by performing these exercises while exposed to the earth, to bring in an equal quantity of magnetic/yin energy.

This can be done manually, or by exposing yourself to the ground for extended periods of time without any non-conductive substances or objects in the way. There also exist products which allow you to conduct this magnetic energy indoors through grounding conductive wires and connecting them to mats which can be sat or stood upon, either for meditation or general daily activity. This is not only beneficial spiritually, but to the health, as the modern western lifestyle allows little contact with the earth and as such most people have a great deficit of earthen and magnetic energy, causing imbalance and all sorts of mental, physical and energetic problems.

Check out the theory section and the section describing the accumulation and application of the electric and magnetic fluids in Step 8 of IIH for a rather more detailed description.

No.16570>>16572
>>16567

Avoiding meditating in the same room as animals or other people (who aren't also meditating) is a good idea, as meditating opens and expands the aura of the vital and astral bodies, which can lead to disruption, especially if the animal/individual bumps into you or makes a sudden, startling movement or loud noise. Likewise, it's generally recommended not to meditate outdoors where a strong wind is blowing for the same reason.

No.16572
>>16570
I'm not in the same room, but very near of them, but thanks for the advice.

No.16610>>16617>>16618
Just had a thought based on my experiences with renouncing lust. I haven't experienced blue balls whatsoever in the past 3 weeks or so since I've gone nofap - and I've promised myself that other than necessary reasons (i.e. getting rid of incredibly painful blue balls) that I wouldn't masturbate.

Since I've been transmuting the energy for other purposes (moreso spiritual than magickal) I've not experienced it once. Thus, could the phenomenon known as blueballs be due to an overwhelming amount of sexual energy that goes unharnessed, and not due to the actual lack of stimulation/release? I think this is the most likely explanation, since I wake up pretty much every morning with a raging erection. But, it totally flies in the face of the common explanation for it, which is "have too many erections without release and you get pain/swelling/discomfort".

Still going strong, even though I haven't officially pledged.

Also, holy shit /fringe/ has been active as hell for the two days I've been gone. I look forward to the reading.

No.16617>>16630
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>>16610
>"have too many erections without release and you get pain/swelling/discomfort"
>blue balls

Is this why my balls feel sore to the fucking touch right now, it started midday in and it hasn't really subsided, if I touch them with slight pressure they are extremely sensitive.

If this is indeed blue balls then I may just masturbate but without porn so I can relieve myself of the sensitivity and pain to the touch.

It really goes to show how long I've been fapping when I can't remember the last time I had pain like this from not fapping.

No.16618
>>16610
I haven't fapped in my life but I do get erections all the time.

I don't understand the "blue balls" thing fapsters sometimes mention. Never have I felt any pain due to not fapping.

No.16620>>16621
Hey guys if you want to step up your game to a whole new level do this;

>meditate to clear the mind so you can get your message across really clearly with a very serious and focused intention

>tell your higher self or the infinite living mind of all " I WILL NOT ENGAGE IN LUST FOR X DAYS " and demand that if you succeed you be given powers and if you fail that they take some of your life energy from you
>the more impressive your challenge, the more dire the consequences if you fail, the greater the possible reward for completing it
>exit trance
>now make good on your promise and restrain yourself from any lust for that whole period
>if you succeed, awesome shit happens
>if you fail, well I don't know what happens exactly, you don't want to fail

>inb4 someone is foolish or determined and courageous enough to actually do this


You will upon setting a challenge like this almost certainly be tested too by an unusually high increase in synchronistic attacks to make you cave in and fail. It could get absolutely insane how much suffering you have to go through for the period of the divine challenge. No matter what you must stay the path and complete it though.

No.16621>>16637
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>>16620
>divine challenge

That bet has a 99.999999% chance of attracting an evil being to tempt you and suck your life force, even if you address it to "your higher self or the infinite living mind of all".
Don't do that.

The only secret to abstain from masturbation, is to abstain with no effort at all. Don't think about masturbation, non-masturbation, porn or lust. Live as if masturbating wasn't even a thing. That will work perfectly for those who are truly ready to start living this way, and they will marvel seeing how easy it is. On less than a week you will be confident enough to know for sure that you won't fail.

Also don't get paranoid about transmutating sexual energy until you master abstention. If you follow any sort of spiritual practise it will transmute itself slowly anyway.

Regards from a guy who used to masturbate 6 times a day to scat, right now leisurely cruising to the 100day goal and further on.

No.16630
>>16617
It gets better. Don't masturbate.

No.16631>>16632
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>>16115
>>16119

>Just be aware of the lusts as they arise and yourself as the one experiencing them

>When lust comes, sit down and observe

What you just said is basically the lesson taught in this book here.

No.16632
>>16631
Has the book been useful to you?

No.16633
>>15968
>If they have different genetic markers how are redheads blondes?

Because if you don't have the blond hair alleles, your hair will look brown instead of red.

No.16637>>16638
>>16621
>That bet has a 99.999999% chance of attracting an evil being to tempt you and suck your life force, even if you address it to "your higher self or the infinite living mind of all". Don't do that.

That's the whole point of it though. It's a bad-ass challenge for wizards who believe they have mastered their lust.

Also I don't need any help with not masturbating, I just don't do it.

I just like opportunities to develop my will and attain higher powers.

Personally if I were to do the challenge, I'd do it with the stipulation "I will not touch my face for x days", and hope to be rewarded with good skin.

No.16638>>16639
>>16637
I just did it for the lust test, for the rest of my days. About as challenging as I could make it.

Now I guess it is time to wait & see what happens. If I fail and die you will know from my lack of an update I suppose.

No.16639>>16641
>>16638
Oh man if you really did it and really were heard, you're pretty much fucked now. Should have set a challenge of one week.

No.16641>>16657
>>16639
Anyone can manage a week. Tests in school were hardly anything of the sort because they were so easy to pass. I need to push it past the limit.

I have perhaps gotten in over my head though, fuck it yoloswag etc.

No.16657>>16669
>>16641
A week if it was a mundane challenge, maybe. If you just pledged a week to us then sure you could win. However, you just challenged a cosmic force, which is going to do manipulate everything around you in an extraordinary effort to make you cave into lust. Akin to asking god to send a hundred of the most beautiful women with supernatural powers of seduction to seduce you.

No.16669>>16699
>>16657
I think it has already begun, this is so much fun! I am confident that my will is strong enough. No force can make me lose except for a deficiency in will. In hindsight pledging a lifetime was rash but I still stand by my decision, any set amount of time would be a futile gesture, all or nothing is the only way.

No.16671>>16709
I will not masturbate or view any porn until October.

I will not listen to shitty popular/rock/metal music until October.

I will have read at least 4 books from the sticky by October.

I will try to control my emotions, especially anger and sadness, until October

I will try to meditate as much as I can and increase dream lucidity until October.


I will reset the goals when the time comes (I hope I succeed and reach October, then I will see.)

I'm creating a temp. trip for this thread specifically.

No.16699>>16749
>>16669
Maybe I am jumping the gun only a couple of days in but this does not seem so challenging. I am sure that effectively this lust is already beat, my reward had better be powerful too.

No.16709>>16726
>>16671
>I will try to control my emotions, especially anger and sadness, until October

That no feels feel when you try to feel but can't feel a feel.

No.16715
>>15641
I pledge time, time unto time unto time, may there be peace in your other half.

No.16725>>16729
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I hereby pledge to renounce lust for the next 2 weeks, ending on the 21st. I'm confident I have some sort of porn addiction since I just stopped to reflect on the fact I masturbated three times yesterday to the same piece of fetish porn.

I also pledge to fucking organize my computer's desktop, pic unfortunately related.

I also pledge to stop listening to the Pacific Rim OST, but goddamn those are some catchy tunes.

I pledge to read at least one esoteric piece of literature fully without skimming over and never truly finishing.

Lastly, I pledge to clean up my jizz rags and remove all of the aluminum cans from my room.

No.16726
>>16709
I know that feel

No.16727>>16733
>>15713
What are some ways to transform my sexual energy?

No.16729>>16730
>>16725
What's wrong with listening to the Pacific rim ost?
You could instead associate the tunes with your fringe studies so that listening to a track reminds you to get back to reading.

No.16730
>>16729
Well it just seems to me that it has become the only thing I ever listen to anymore. If you don't think that's bad thing then it could be used in that way.

No.16731>>16735
Hey guys who are making life-time or very long-duration pledges maybe you should approach the whole matter like a magazine subscription that you can constantly renew. I think it's more noble that way. Imagine if in marriage you would once a month re-affirm your faith, devotion, and love to your spouse. I think that's better than doing it once and forgetting about it, a continuous renewal of your commitment. The glory will still be yours when you manage to go on and on without fapping and you shouldn't think that just because the time you set for yourself has expired already that you should automatically fap because it's over, you can just renew without fapping.

No.16733
>>16727
Become very intensely enamoured with some other activity.

The state of arousal or whatever doesn't have to manifest in the form of a boner you know.

No.16735
>>16731
Well I made the lifetime pledge, not like I can take it back or would even want to. I see where you're coming from though. It hasn't been too tough yet, I tested myself with some adult entertainment too. It may be decades left to go, no doubt I can handle it.

Maybe each day could be treated as an interval gone celibate as they will soon add up.

No.16749>>16756
>>16699
Umm, if you pledged a lifetime, you realize you won't get your reward until you die, right?

smh

No.16756
>>16749
What if my reward is eternal life? Checkmate.

No.16757>>16758>>16759>>16826
So is there any actual spiritual advantage in nofap?

If I'm going to feel horny 24/7 then this disturbs everything spiritual I do, better just fap and get over with it.

No.16758
>>16757
You won't feel aroused all the time. It will lessen.

You learn to control yourself, do sexual transmutation, have more energy, and you get clear mind.

No.16759
>>16757
Fucking a succubus or other metaphysical entity or used telekinetic fapping is far more spiritual than regular mundane fapping so aim to do that or refrain from it until you can.

No.16824>>16825
Fuck I lost, about 3.5 days in too, a new record sort of.

I'm not going to go harsh on myself though, I'll instead use this experience to modify and rethink how I am going to go about committing to nofap so that I can better control myself and eliminate such unfortunate failures.

One way in which I noticed is that although I went 3 days without fapping I was not really doing serious transmutation nor even meditation like I promised myself I would do, maybe I thought it would be easy and I could handle a few days not meditating but the lust snuck up on me and I was too weak to overcome it, as a result.

I mean I can tell I am indeed spiritually deficient, I can say it to myself and I can write it out here but I frankly feel I'm not putting in at least half of the required effort to improve that aspect of myself. I just feel deadlocked in between. It doesn't help that I'll fuck off and play vidya or browse /v/ or /pol/ getting into endless debate and discussion that seems to go around cyclically and by the end of it all I haven't done anything that could come close to transmutation.

It's this sort of absent minded browsing that I need to overcome as well, I waste way too much time arguing about pointless shit on those boards, or staying in the discussion of a thread for an hour or two at a time, when I could be meditating or reading IIH which I have yet to do, or two other texts on deep breathing and meditation I have only just skimmed through…

It seems to me that often I end up doing a lot of what I normally do except without fapping/browsing porn and in the end its not enough of course because I end up doing that too as well.

No.16825>>16828
>>16824
Pledge yourself to that divine challenge mentioned earlier, for each day until the end of your life. I have and not yet felt the urge too strongly. In fact, I have made some progress in sorting long standing problems of mine out, issues that have plagued me for half a decade.

No.16826>>16827
>>16757

1) yes, massive spiritual advantages. And just plain physical advantages (I'm much more energetic with nofap, and I maintain a regular sleeping pattern for the first time in 15 years)

2) The constant horniness will go away, it just takes time.


On a general note, I think you guys are setting yourselves up to fall by trying to go cold turkey, so to speak. Change comes slowly. Instead of making "pledges" and deciding you'll never ever do it again, or setting goals of weeks/months, then getting pissed off when you fail, you should look at how much you fap currently, then slowly reduce the amount. Even if it's just reducing the amount by one session a week, you'll eventually get there, and because your body and mind will have time to adjust to the changes slowly, you'll manage to maintain it much better than just stopping suddenly.

No.16827>>16831
>>16826
Only the weak-willed cannot stop indefinitely immediately. No offense to the weak-willed, they should ease into it. The strong can go without indulging themselves forever though.

No.16828>>16829
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>>16825
Such a pledge seems too much for me.

I was inspired by an article posted in the last thread about quitting smoking, and the article mentioned one of the primary failures in those who try to quit is in thinking too long term too quickly, instead of taking it hour by hour, day by day.

This I think is a good idea, and its what I am trying to do in regards to no-fap.

The idea of pledging once to never again fap is too hasty in my opinion, and leaves no room for error in which I have learned that each failure only serves to strengthen my resolve and hone in on the best strategy, methods and mindset to have in order to overcome the fap addiction.

But by all means go ahead with the pledge if you believe you can accomplish it, I know I would not be able to just yet.

No.16829
>>16828
Well for me I knew I could do it because no force in existence can hold down the will within me. Still, it was intended to be a tough test, something it could be in future just not for now.

No.16831
>>16827
It's simple really. You tell yourself you can do it, and then you will be able to do it. If you tell yourself you can't do it at anytime during this process, then you won't be able to do it.

No.16833>>16837
>try nofap from time to time
>after a couple weeks too horny to do anything esoteric
>Can't focus because of high stress military deal
>can choose to fap and do minor things or be useless when nofap.
What should I try to do?
The only time I can do useful workings is with theta binaural beats which is a Hassle with my day to day life.

No.16837
>>16833
You're only horny because you don't actually believe you will stop masturbating. You literally have to cut off the possibility of choice in giving up and jacking off.

Otherwise your body will be convinced that it needs to jack off for pleasure.

If you don't understand this, realize that you can't do anything esoteric while in lust and do other activities.
Honestly though, anyway you can give up fapping is helping you to godhood.

No.16838
Guys I have mostly banished my succubus but I think something is still fucking me and stealing my seed while I don't even realize it. Now, some of you might say I'm being molested in my sleep by a family member or whatever, but that's fucking stupid as nobody can even open the door without waking me up. Whatever is after my sperm seems to steal all of it very effectively now without me being consciously aware of it or me deriving any pleasure in the process. What is up with this? I'm hoping that maybe if this is happening it has good intentions and will grow in power and help me or something. I don't know…

No.16840>>16841>>16847
I've been engaging in sexual activities but have not ejaculated, does that still count?

No.16841>>16842
>>16840
What sort of sexual activities?

For me I just think nobody should ever physically touch their dick.

The only legitimate sexual activity is where your dick is rubbing up against a succubus or a woman or some other entity that isn't your own body.

No.16842
>>16841
Allow me a little modesty please, even on the internet.

No.16847
>>16840
What you describe is Black Tantra. It is not renouncing lust like White Tantra, but instead encourages the orgasm without ejaculation.

Better than nothing, but is still abusing your divine energy.

Welp, I went ahead and issued a challenge to my higher self:
If I abstain from jerkin' it to orgasm by midnight of the 14th, I'll attain far more mental and psychic power: Clearer thinking, more control of thoughts and emotions, better ability at handling complex concepts and calculations, etc. If I fail, then I'll be "dumbed down" and my power will decrease.
I wrote it down, repeated it out loud several times, then meditated with my hands on the paper repeating "This is my challenge to my higher self, please accept." I have no clue if I'm doing it right, but I'm pumped anyway.
And I know the 14th is only a few days away, but I've already been abstaining for probably a week or more now. Plus I'm curious to see how many wacky challenges can be squeezed into such a narrow window of time.

No.16851>>16852
>>16850
Good luck. After succeeding, make a longer one. Attain even greater power.

No.16852
>>16851
Thanks, I plan to. I'm curious first to see how this one pans out. Hopefully I have some fun with it.

No.16853>>16856
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>>16850
>Clearer thinking, more control of thoughts and emotions, better ability at handling complex concepts and calculations, etc

Most likely you will actually achieve all of that if you combine nofap with a regular meditation exercise.

Something even as simple as this for starters-

http://kadampalife.org/2011/02/18/meditation-getting-started/

No.16856>>16878
>>16853
I'm familiar already. I meditate often (not as rigidly scheduled as I'd like), have my own techniques, and have experienced the effects of nofap before. I'm just asking for a boost, I guess.

No.16870>>16894>>17159
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2 weeks, starting now. No fap, no porn, no exceptions.

No.16878
>>16856
>I meditate often (not as rigidly scheduled as I'd like)

Same here, in fact I've come to realize lately that if I even go one day without meditating my will for nofap is severely decreased and I'll end up fapping most likely in the same day, and then the next, without trying to meditate again, until I fail nofap eventually and have to start over again.

No.16894>>17159
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>>16870
God-fucking-damnit. It begins again.

No.16896>>16901>>16919
guy with messy desktop reporting in

had several erections throughout the week. Never touched. Now that I'm looking at porn I can't get it up and feel very lethargic. What's happening to me?

No.16901
>>16896

Your body is adjusting to the massive hormonal and energetic changes. Give it a few weeks.

No.16919
>>16896
Read this from the mega: Robert Bruce - New Energy Ways v2 - 1999

It's short, it won't take you long to read it, you'll have it done in a day. Just do it.

No.16920
>tfw I have absolute no regimens in my life whatsoever and meditate A LOT very often but just whenever I feel like it
>tfw can't force myself into unnatural rhythms, just guided by my own inner-direction regarding these things

In the last 48 hours I've spend quite a good portion of that time just meditating especially as right now I'm trying to build up my energy body again after wasting a lot of energy on frivolous stuff to impress mundanes.

No.16931>>16932>>16943>>17110
>>16850
Well shit, what the fuck…It may have actually worked. I didn't even experience much of a challenge, no real temptations or anything. I went to bed Saturday night as midnight approached, and ended up having one of the most incredible, beautiful, mind-bending, vivid dreams of my entire life.
I tried posting it in the dream thread but kept getting an error. Anyway, I'll update more if this continues or if I notice any other changes.

No.16932>>16943
>>16931
I have found it nowhere near as troubling as expected to abstain either. I will probably manage the rest of my life as per the pledge.

No.16943>>16965
>>16850
>>16931
>>16932
That is so ebin. Now you have much more mental power!

No.16965>>16967>>16972>>17110
>>16943
I'm still waiting to see. I meditated today and noticed I entered trance quite immediately compared to before, without having to push through trains and trains of thoughts before finally settling down. I'm trying not to be biased or induce a "placebo," so I can say so far that I don't really feel all too fundamentally different except for that incredible dream and easier meditation.
Regardless, I'm gonna come up with another challenge and bump it up to 10 days. I recommend others join in the fun.

No.16967
>>16965
I'll do one of these pledges after my initial 2 week celibacy is up. Still going strong. Desktop is cleaner.

No.16972>>17048>>17110
>>16965
Okay, it's five in the morning for me and I'm writing this now so I don't forget it. I just woke up having sleep paralysis, which has never happened to me while laying on my side. When I woke up, I had this incredibly strange sensation throughout my lower abdomen down to my perineum and butt. A distinct tingling presence, and I had this idea that it was either some manifestation of me or my etheric body, or something demonic. This might sound strange, but it felt almost like I was being magnetically "pulled" out of my perineum, or there was some ball of energy hanging around that region feeding on me like a leech. I took a huge breath in (that's all I could do with my physical body), and as I drew it in I felt like my body was totally overloading with this energy. The tingling filled my body almost to feeling like it burned, and I heard static in my head, like I was half-dreaming the sounds of a radio conversation and then interfering with its signal, and it almost seemed like the heater in my room stopped for a moment (or at least its sound was drowned out). Then I could move again and the sensations disappeared. I was partially scared and partially very fascinated. Thoughts?

No.17038>>17049
guys what about edging or ballooning?

No.17048>>17073
>>16972

Just a buildup of generative energy, it happens.

No.17049

No.17073
>>17048
Well cool, thanks. It sure felt powerful. I'm excited to see what can be done with this energy.

No.17086
>>16354
Is it worthwile to read the old threads?

I'll start off with a one week pledge, time to kick this addiction in its nuts.

No.17109>>17135
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56 days celibate here.

Last night I had my first wet dream. It didn't really effect my energy levels at all, but I felt so defeated that allowed myself to orgasm even though I had little control over it. I was half awake, and my bladder was full which caused a lot of tension. Man, I'm stupid, I should have went to the bathroom and could have been less lazy about it.

Fuck. Oh well, least I haven't masturbated yet. Not sure if this will effect my growth but I still feel shitty for allowing it. Goddam archons probably put a succubi in my dreams

No.17110
>>16972
>>16965
>>16931
So as an update regarding new mental/psychic developments for me as per my challenge (aside from the weird dream experiences):
I just tried the random.org generator out of curiosity, set it between 1 and 10, and visualized numbers to make them manifest. It worked perfectly the first four times. After that, as I was getting excited and egotistical about it, it started waning. I would come back periodically once I calmed down and each time I would be able to generate the numbers I visualized the first time or first couple of times. So I'd say the challenge seems to have been a success for me.

No.17134>>17156>>17169
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Have you noticed that sexual temptation seems to assail one in the nighttime most strongly? Tonight I was tempted, and I recalled that when previously on nofap many of my temptations happened then. It was partially the memory of those fails which helped me easily overcome that bullshit. FUCK OFF SUCCUBI KIKES!

No.17135
>>17109
Don't worry about it.

No.17156
>>17134
Yeah, that's where the demons of the flesh like to attack from, because you aren't conscious of what is happening.

No.17159>>17276
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>>16870
>>16894
One week. Fuck yes!

No.17168>>17172
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I pledge a week again. Wish me luck.

No porn, no fapping but sex with gf is ok.

No.17169
>>17134
Yes anon. Yes. Full moons are emotional rollercoasters for me.

No.17170>>17172
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Pledged a week to myself last this friday
Here goes nothing

No.17172>>17222
>>17168
>>17170
>weeks

Weak! All or nothing, lifetime pledges now.

No.17222
>>17172
I made several lifetimes in the old thread, now im going week by week and still having sex with gf, because hey, fuck porn, blowjobs from a real girl are great.

I broke three times so far and im going to work hard to make one week, then more.

No.17226
I pledge a week

No.17276>>17277>>17278>>17293
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>>17159
9 days and a fucking relapse. The good news is that it took an extensive rationalization and inner conflict for this to happen (to the point where I shut off my computer and internet and faced extreme indecision). I did look at porn today, btw, and I firmly believe that if I had not done so my pledge would be kept. Don't look up something out of "curiosity" or "test" your will - that's not the wizard in your mind, that's the goddamn kike succubus in your head trying to rationalize the destruction of your goddamn soul.

I'm on board with a lifetime promise: I hereby pledge abstinence from all pornography* and masturbation for all of my days.

*any media interpreted as sexual

No.17277>>17287
>>17276
Take it easy, my nigga. The succubus may have you by the balls but you have to keep a level head about this. Simply pledging a lifetime in a fit of frustration like this doesn't mean you'll actually pull it off.
That being said, I understand your predicament. I've experienced this twisted mind control shit. This inner voice saying it's "just a test" to take a peek at porn. Maybe jerk it a little to "test" myself at holding off an orgasm. It failed every single time, and simply ended up me jerking off to porn as anyone else would, not some arbitrary "test." You're right, ignore these rationalizations, but I recommend you do what I did and turn it into a divine challenge set to a specific span of time: >>16850
Little by little you'll feel encouraged to keep it up and eventually feel the power return to you. It's like killing two birds with one stone: gaining power, good fortune, or insight while at the same time ridding your mind of this huge parasite.

No.17278
>>17276
It's true, never test your will on these things. If you go down this line of reasoning you will soon find that you will not be satisfied until you orgasm.

However, if you do find yourself peeking , you MUST somehow realize in the middle of it all that you will have to consciously decide to STOP immediately or you will fall even further into lustful desperation until you finally orgasm for a few minutes of pleasure. Then you will be made aware of your mistake but it will be far too late.

No.17279>>17280>>17296
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So one thing I've noticed while trying to do this is that I am for the first time in years able to go up to two full days without fapping.

But the third day is when I ususlly lose now, and so one thing I've notived and began to realize is if by the third day of no fap I have not done even the bare minimum of transmutation such as meditating for a total of 35 minutes in the past two days then the likelihood of me doing so on the third day is even lower than the past two days and the likelihood of me returning to porn, and fapping to orgasm just a few minutes or an hour later afterward (and regŕetting it deeply as soon as I do) on the third day is 90% extremely likely and on the fourth day it is innevitable.

It's really hard to even stay devoted to just three days of meditation im a row for me unfortunately, sometimes usually by the third day I feel like I cannot get my thoughts in order and I feel sort of foggy in thought and rather than just stopping everything and devoting the next 10 or 15 minutes to meditating and just deep breathing I just continue browsing the internet or playing a game until I inevitably end up fapping.

Getting through this roadblock will be one my greatest challenges.

No.17280>>17296
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>>17279
Also you'd think its easy, justs top browsing the internet and go meditate but there are more than just one addictions for me it would seem

All of which some mindfullness or void meditation as a daily practice would no doubt help with but gettimg started and maintaining a schedule for even just a week is difficult

Also 2AM…

Yet another bad and unhealthy habit I must correct, sleep really is underrated

No.17287
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>>17277
But if I pledge a lifetime, "winning" becomes going as far as possible.

No.17293>>17348
>>17276
Not giving into lust bros4life. If you fail, I'll kill you, I hope you'll do the same for me.

No.17296
>>17280
>>17279

Oh also every other day I wake up in the morning turned on but without morning wood and at first I would fail right then and there as I would give in and just fap to porn on my mobile before even getting out of bed.

Now I can resist that sort of and just thrust myself out of bed once I wake up so I won't be tempted. But I kept wondering why do I feel this way on most mornings, and why is it so hard for me to remember my dreams lately (besides the fact that I usually go to sleep late and inconsistently).

So just now as I woke up I pondered over this for a brief clear moment in between feeling turned on and suddenly instantly remembered a sexual dream that I had this night, it came back clear and in all parts and I concluded that must be the reason why I wake up turned on and desiring to fap right away on some days but with no morning wood and no real trigger or reason as to why.

Although, back when I was deep in delusional porn addiction I would often start out fapping in the morning with my mobile device out and maybe the habit became ingrained somehow even after I stopped mostly doing it now..

No.17348>>17386>>17395
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>>17293
Thumbs up. Fuck up and your destiny will be ROPE

No.17386>>17388>>17395
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>>17348
ROPE! ROPE! ROPE!

ROPE! ROPE! ROPE!

ROPE! ROPE! ROPE!

No.17388>>17395
>>17386
I'm thinking of tying rope around my neck just as a constant reminder.

No.17395

No.17398
Having never masturbated or had sex in my life, am I at an advantage or disadvantage?
I see a lot of mixed answers regarding never doing it or doing it occasionally while maintaining control.

No.17399
Haven't ejaculated in over a week but felt horny today and stroked to some porn. Just before ejaculation I decided to stop as not to soil my soul any further, but now am I experiencing the balls the burning blue fire and am in great anguish.

No.17400
one week starting now

No.17411
well I lost.
Lasted 8 days
Starting again

No.17412
So I've been doing nofap and I've had two problems. One, when I don't fap for some time my right knee hurts in weird ways I think it could be something to do with a blocked energy channel or whatever is there any way I can fix this? It only goes away when I fap and I have a demanding military job that ruins my knee when I nofap for more than a week. Next is in dream every I go through various trials of lust where I am tested by what may be succubi they run the gambit on all the /d/ shit I used to fap to. An instance of when I failed the test is I was in dream chatting up a gorgeous bartender and she made the illusion that I came all over the bar. Then she started sexing the owner and I got mad at her and her absolutely beauty and dream fapd and came all over her face and woke up to wet dream. Knee was all better I was butt frustrated for being tricked too.

Does anyone know of the energy pathways on the legs so I can fix my shit? Temptation when I'm in the physicality holds no sway aside from knee thing and the necessity to perform at my workplace.

No.17417>>17418
2 weeks starting tomorrow. Let's do this shit! Has anyone got any advice on how to make it easier?

No.17418
>>17417
Avoid looking at sexy females. Do not touch an erection.

No.17420
I will not fap for one week, that will be quite the challenge, considering how addicted I am right now.

No.17424>>17432>>17435
I've greatly reduced the frequency of fapping since the last time I posted here but I am ready to quit altogether.

perhaps hypnotic suggestion may be helpful to avoid finding titillating imagery as a sexual arousal cue. If anyone has any experience with this, please share some resources or titles I can start with.

Anyway I will start my journey with sheer willpower (i.e. not devoting any time to it) I will return in 24 hours with an update.

No.17432
>>17424
What I did is I just looked at porn and thought depressing thoughts at the same time and didn't fap or do anything and waited for my arousal to die down while still looking at the porn.

Porn doesn't even arouse me now and just make me depressed.

No.17435>>17444
>>17424
>I've greatly reduced the frequency of fapping since the last time I posted here but I am ready to quit altogether.

Same here and I have this and the previous thread to thank for it, and am most grateful to those who made and posted in them.

Unfortunately still haven't been able to reduce my fapping and browsing of porn altogether.

I've gone what I think is 4 or so days without orgasm and its quite the burden to uphold now, past two days I fapped to porn but managed to go no further, discouraging myself by making myself aware of all the damage it is doing to me and has already done.

Porn addiction really sucks.

No.17439
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I relapsed again.


Pledging life this time again. I need to be free.

Useful links
http://yourbrainonporn.com/uncle-bob-porn-addiction-recovery-tips
http://emergency.nofap.org/

No.17444>>17445>>17446
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>>17435
Welp, scratch that back to day 0.

No.17445
>>17444
Punish yourself for this transgression. Punch yourself in the balls once and don't hold back.

No.17446>>17456
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>>17444
To fail is to take enough steps backwards so it is possible to make the big leap across the pit we want to cross.

No.17452>>17457
I'm somewhere around 3 weeks now, mostly without any sort of "edging" or viewing of porn.
A lot of my social anxiety has reduced. I feel more willing to put myself in situations that involve talking with other people or being in front of an audience. I find myself more propelled to talking to girls, and not just any girls but the most attractive ones around me. Also, I find that their attention is more drawn to me. I very often catch them staring at me, like one after another I keep catching multiple girls staring, all in the same room, almost to an eerie effect. Even guys are checking me out, so to speak, for whatever reason. There must be something about building up all this vital energy, about having broken away from a hypersexualized mentality, that captures attention.
My desire to masturbate and watch porn have both drastically reduced. I'm loaded with sexual energy but it's more under my control. I'm starting to even feel repulsed by porn and masturbation: the absurdity of literally sitting for minutes and hours, staring at pixels on a screen, making your own hand into your lover. Isn't it just ridiculous when you think about it?

No.17453
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No.17456
>>17446
Thanks for that anon, its very inspiring.

I've learned from the past not to punish or demean myself for failing at no-fap, as that just brings down my sense of self worth to its lowest and then toxic thoughts begin to form, that I can't get any lower than this, so I might as well fap again.

If I was lucky I would only fap 2-3 more times before wising the fuck up and stopping. Other times it would set me back a whole week or so.

That's one massive leap I plan to take in the future. A goal that has been subverted by porn/fap addiction.

No.17457>>17463
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>>17452
>about having broken away from a hypersexualized mentality, that captures attention.
My desire to masturbate and watch porn have both drastically reduced. I'm loaded with sexual energy but it's more under my control

Congrats on getting to that level, its a noble goal to achieve.

>about having broken away from a hypersexualized mentality


Especially to break away from this, it's so damn difficult, because you can talk and talk endlessly to yourself or to others how you will strive to no-fap, but when it comes to it you find yourself fighting with your will, with habit ingrained over years, and the moment you start to actively or even passively resist you realize all of a sudden how difficult it really is, how great the mental struggle becomes and how exhausting it becomes.

I know that meditation is one of my most useful tools in combatting this but this very struggle makes it hard to focus on that, you feel brain fog and loss of clarity and direction yet you know meditation is the way to help with overcoming that but in order to meditate you must struggle for a day maybe more with the constant craving that addiction entails.

I have written about this phenomenon on here before as well, I don't know why I'm writing about it again, maybe to refine my thought process and better understand what it is happening to me, or maybe because writing about it cements it as a real thing albiet a mental thing that nevertheless can be overcome with enough effort and willpower.

Maybe I need to take 5 days off the internet and just meditate all day or something. Easier said than done.

No.17463>>17487
>>17457
It helped me to take on the belief that sexuality is "incorrect" when it takes a hold of your mind. Then it's something that those on this board might call "demonic"; a bane to your sanity. When you're being compelled to look at images, to start touching yourself, convinced you "need" to do it or you'll go nuts, that's nothing less than all-out mind control. And that's scary. I think sexuality should be one of the coolest, most fun and enjoyable parts of being a human. Unfortunately, many allow and even will it to become this weird, manic, ritualistic vice that leeches from your mind and soul.
Just sit and think about this all for a while. Think about how culture has shaped the way you perceive sex and women (like our fixation on asses that reach utterly surreal levels). Think about, as I said, how off-the-wall it is to just sit and stare at a screen while fiddling with your own penis. Think about how these porn sites want you doing exactly that, and you're sitting there doing it, and you don't have to stand for that shit, but you allow yourself to continue because porn is a socially acceptable addiction like caffeine or alcohol.
And try this exercise some time: actually spend a while going through some porn images and videos, and the whole time try to break away from sexual thoughts and imagine all the potential human qualities of the women you see. Do they seem happy with what they're doing? What do you think their upbringing may have been like that led them eventually into porn? Imagine them crying real tears - not even for a particular reason besides you just being aware of the fact that these are actual humans being depicted who, when not spreading themselves open for a camera, may laugh, cry, feel fear, shame, guilt, who may be depressed, who may have been abused, etc. Go on long tangents imagining the potential personalities of these women and all of them in different emotional states. If you find that the lust is too strong for you to maintain this sympathetic state of mind, you're not in control, and it's time you start being so.

No.17464
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non-native english speaker grammar may not be so good.
If you are new into this and weak willed moon phases are gonna make you stir crazy.
Try this as you ween yourself off fapping. As your doing this practice your esoteric stuff so by the time you no fap for an extended period of time you will be somewhat used to the power you will be getting and you will have a better understanding of how the energies flow through you.

Here is a handy site you can bookmark to help track what you will be doing. http://www.moonconnection.com/moon_phases_calendar.phtml

So, as the moon waxes on its way to a full moon you will steadily increase fapping, I did fap once when it is about halfway to full and I would slowly increase the amount of times I fap (2 the next week then full moon hits) until the full moon comes when the moon is full, go all out fapping just for that 1 or 2 day span then as the moon wanes fap incrementally less as you did coming up. should get you around 12 days of straight nofap while you are waiting for the moon to start getting full again.

Try this for a couple months to understand the energies flowing through you then jump into full on nofap gotta let your body and mind adjust the indigo pill posters who boast at having an easy time in this thread probably know more about themselves and the esoteric than you guys who are having trouble.

Look into detoxing, chakras, energy manipulation within the body and start visualizing prana as it flows in and around you. If you have no direction on stuff to look into.

There is a strong possibility if you can't deal with afew weeks of nofap you may not be able to use your powers as well as you would like anyway.

No.17466
File: 1411896465514.jpg (343.87 KB, 1308x1059, image.jpg)
Broke agian.


This whole thing is starting to tear at me, i cant get hard from anything but porn anymore.


My girlfriend will hate me unless i finish this.

No.17482
Any celibate wizards out there?

I'm so alone ;_;


https://8chan.co/celibacy/index.html

No.17487>>17489>>17500
>>17463
But what if you strict to an almost strictly 2D diet of porn? Where there is nothing but the artists wild imagination and the medium he/she chooses to express it.

No.17489>>17500
>>17487
It's still fapping to porn, why make excuses and try to weasel your way around. Remember when you first saw boobies after puberty? You should try asking yourself what it would take to get that feeling again. It would probably take afew weeks of noporn.

No.17500
>>17487
In some ways it's worse, because you're even further removed from a human depiction and lost in a sexual simulacrum. As >>17489 said, don't make excuses to sustain this addiction. I shouldn't have to explain this to you.

No.17520
Remade this thread on 8chan:

https://8chan.co/fringe/res/410.html

No.17530
Interesting. I've pledged for a week and am almost completing it, I'm on the 5th day, and I've noticed that as I stopped masturbating I also haven't been able to recall any of my dreams, where before I was easily recalling them every morning.
My sleep has become a lot "denser" as well. We've had a few storms the last few days, and none managed to wake me up.

Anybody had similar experiences?

No.17561>>17787
Failed again after a week. I hate PMS (Post-Masturbation Syndrome).

http://celibacy.info/
"If a man can get self-control for a week, he becomes a human being. If he can be continent for a month, he finally becomes a man. The one who can control himself for a season – becomes automatically a kind of sage or hero in whatever field he strives. Those who can keep chaste for a year develop divine qualities and are real brahmacharis. All these men will finally regard women with reverence and will regard human sexuality as a sacred realm and a sacred subject. All effort at continence brings merit and fruit. This effort is the foundation of his personal prosperity, all human progress, moral order, spiritual knowledge, yogic development, and even the re-manifestation of the world as an untroubled realm of prosperity and grace. All marrying men should keep it in the bounds of once-per-month like his wife. These self-controlled men, respecting the sexual energy, are indeed the very ones who tend to have children and sizeable families. Then they make better fathers because of their continence and the emotional strength it gives, and the greatly enhanced continence-bestowed ability to work, earn, and master the world on behalf of his family! After having the right sized family he and his wife should move toward the chastity of the saints. This is her spiritual test. Can she follow his lead in consecrating the sexual energy – once a non-factor in childhood – to God and enter into the Mystic with him? This is the Aryan path of the ancient Upanishads and it's the way of our European ancestors."
– Julian Lee

No.17758>>17773
Advice on how to stop fapping to sissification files?

I keep trying and failing to quit it, I end up with an overwhelming urge to masturbate to it again after a few days, I've failed several times over the last 6 months.

Yet when I'm with a girlfriend I'm fine, no urge for it at all. It only happens when I'm single, and I've never once found men attractive either.

In fact even through the worst addictions to sissification I'm still only aroused by women.

Tips on how to quit this habit? I mean for fuck sake I almost WANT to go out and buy the clothes and toys and everything

No.17773
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No.17787

No.17790>>17791
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>>15782
Same here. I pledge not to fap again until I can AP.

No.17791>>17799
>>17790
confession. This time i mean it. I've just been kinda depressed.

No.17799
>>17791
You wear jade and you're depressed?



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