>>15548I am a great friend of the school of thought that says: "Freedom to share information, freedom to withhold it". It would solve a lot of judicial problems the internet faces. Not all of them, but it makes more sense than "information is free", as much as I love that thought, really.
>>15549While internet-hardened and thus immune to such harsh language, I am convinvec that those people using it on a casual basis are not ready to learn alchemical teachings. It is for more open and refined minds.
>muh elitismIt is as it is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just my opinion, fellow aspiring wizard.
>>15556Exactly this might be the reason why the group does not like to openly share the work and I myself feel it makes sense not just to throw it around. But who are "enemies"? The Mekubal most likely know it already, I wouldn't know as I do not read Kabbalistic teachings. The secret orders that may or may not use it for evil and/or to furthering their domination most likely have already similar findings.
In my opinion the "enemy" is one of lesser order: the destructive subraces that might abuse European occultism against the creators. The writings I speak of make clear racial distinctions and is generally very Euro-centric. Just like Black nationalism exists, there should not be (literal) black alchemy.
>>15559Magic is no birth-right at all. It is a burden. Since ancient times it always had been guarded away from the prying eye of the leaden people. The writings are complicated and often one needs to read between the lines.It's on purpose. Understanding the works, uncovering the secrets within secret teachings, going through rites, attaining degrees of mastery - all this promotes a refined mind, careful reading and wisdom. of course you do not need to go through rites and the like to be prepared for occult texts, but you wouldn't read them as carefully if you took them for granted. There lies the danger and ignorance.
It isn't about power-mongering, although knowledge is power. it's more about keeping it powerful. It shouldn't be dragged into a level of understanding that is unbecoming for the work put into those texts.
As of the abuse of knowledge: we live in a world with humans, which means we live in a world of war. The alchemical texts mention the warlike nature of Man quite often, not necessarily in bad light. There will be many fights between those who are meant to walk the path and those who are not. It is necessary to not provide those who are not meant to walk the path with ammunition.
>If Franz Bardon can publish a complete guide to self-initiation, no lesser adept has any excuse for greedily hoarding secrets.As a lesser adept myself those words impact me greatly. But after all I came here to share. It is merely duty of the burden to not… ah I do not know myself anymore. Maybe you are right? I lack the wisdom to make the correct decision, but I am trying.
>>15563While the alchemical texts speak of pain and death, I doubt anyone would be determined enough to collect those ingredients. It is not necessary to go farther than one is prepared. The student needs to accept his lot as adept; he will not be a master for a long time. It is part of the struggle.
>>15570>All this whining about how "knowledge should be available to everyone" is really nothing more than laziness, selfishness and egotism. People want access the most sacred knowledge humanity possesses without so much as leaving their bedroom. The universe doesn't work that way, you get what you work for.Wise words.
>>15572>The truth is that you can't hide anything from anyone who was meant to find it.Also correct. Almost quoting the alchemical texts.
>But if the masturbatory fantasy of imagining that you are one of the Illumined Ones strokes your ego, enjoy. It is mostly ego that drives us towards the rank of master and illumination. I doubt someone who achieved ego death will have use of the alchemical texts. i myself am a lesser student and like everyone else here an aspiring wizard, someone who searches in order to find. Restless and not at peace.
>Hey guys, I have secrets that I can't share because they're after me, what do?They are not necessarily after me, but I am technically stealing knowledge, simply due to an inexplainable desire to share it with my fellow aspiring wizards. I feel that there are many, many people in this world in search of knowledge, but too few real teachers and groups to help them see it. Magick and occultism has become an endeavor of self study and all we are left with are rather introductory texts. I am afraid that a lot of knowledge has been lost, even after the burning of the Alexandrian library.
Yet it has always been this way: enlightenment can rarely be achieved by reading the texts. There was a zen quote on this, but my feeble mind cannot recall it.
>>15579You won't find much pleasure in the alchemical text. It doesn't quite target chaos magick. It's more about "bringing order and light".
>>15587>Humans are a microcosm of the macrocosm, we really shouldn't have to leave our bedrooms to learn everything there is to know and develop omniscience.This is correct. I also think there are many harmful teachers out there. Especially those Indian gurus and yogi are often charlatans and they know it. In my city i have spoken to one who advertises heavily for his Yoga and zen lessons, but he also has a spiritual Buddhist circle where he speaks of things that do not yield as much money as rich-white-women activities´and past times, such as Yoga. His teachings were very superficial and after discussing the patterns of the world with him I noticed that he either follows a school of thought I do not understand, or that he really isn't as enlightened as he likes to portray himself.
I am also really sorry that it takes a while to post the knowledge. I have to copy the book by hand and then translate it from (mainly) German and Latin to English. It also has an old Greek section and some lines of Russian that I will not be able to translate. All this takes a while, but I am making good progress. I must also warn you that the book is rather contemporary. Not older than 50 years. No ancient knowledge. And some might be disappointed that actual magick is a very small part of the text. As I said: an alchemical work. How to be a good wizard, rather than how to make good wizardry. I love this board so far, by the way, and really hope it won't die. The world needs places like this to connect aspiring wizards. Too many who try to reach land strand on the rocks of Wiccan schools 8or similar), which ultimately are lesser or even polluted studies. That said I also am in contact with a down-to-earth Wiccan "witch" who is, in my opinion, far too enlightened for this feminist exclusive club.
(…)his pursuit of the Philosopher's Stone has in large measure been impeded by "worldly necessities", and that the said Stone is reserved for men who have the gift of "solitariness." >copied from wikipedia, article: Thomas CharnockChanged my trip for easier use.
