>>14972>that's funny, because I've made that exact same argument many times in the past, back when I still believed in this stuff. If you picked that up on this board, it was probably from me.wtf happened to you that you stopped believing and what bullshit were you studying beforehand that you became disillusioned with?
*tips fedora*
>Top kek. How did you gain access, exactly? Because I see a lot of people here saying that you're supposed to "figure out the password with magic", but when you ask them how THEY found the pass, they admit someone shared it with them over the IRC. Which I'm not interested in participating in.Nobody ever told me it and I don't even have access to IRC because permabanned from that network long ago.
>Keep your silly exclusive board. I've been involved in enough of them to know it's more of the same.I don't want you on it spreading your cancerous doubt thoughtforms.
>Where are all the experienced magicians, then? I've looked for them, and they're always old, fat bald guys, or old, fat Wiccan women with lots of cats. You know I'm right. Google some pictures of the authors of your favorite books on magic. Read their bios. There's nothing about their lives to distinguish them from regular mortals. Seems like there would be.Literally the first thing I ever do before reading any books is look up the author, look up their bio, and read about them. When I see people like the ones you describe I immediately drop it and ignore them. The only ones I've paid attention to have been ones that lived what they talk. There are even a few authors whose books are popular amongst some of the other users here that I refuse to read or at least have put way down my list of priorities to the point I probably won't ever read them simply because there is nothing impressive about the authors that makes them worth listening to.
I look at the following with each author, depending upon what they wrote about:
- if they talk about financial success, I expect them to have been reasonably wealthy to the point money was no longer a concern for them, and I also expect that this wealth have been earned from something OTHER then their book sales (so authors that only got wealthy off of scamming people with their books won't cut it for me)
- if they talk about health, I expect them to be healthy themselves, and look at when and from what they died of and why or what sickness they overcame in their life and how long they stayed healthy thereafter.
- if they talk about siddhis / advanced magical powers I expect there to be some controversy around them in which they are known to have actually exercised such powers
- etc.
Seems to me you probably got caught up in reading some Wiccan and similar bullshit. In fact the great majority of authors writing on occultism, magic, etc. are all full of shit it would seem if we look at their personal lives. The gems in the piles of garbage are few but they do exist and I care what they say and benefit from their teachings.
>I've read all this stuff. All the stuff in the sticky, most of the stuff in the Mega, et cetera. Everybody knows this shit, but I've yet to see anyone actually producing results with it.Well you obviously haven't read every single post on /fringe/ then throughout its entire history because you missed out on some things. I wouldn't so silly as to wait for others to get things done first but whatever, if you're out on this quest, it doesn't matter. I am determined to become a powerful magician and dedicate all my life to the quest even if I have to read a thousand books and practise intense meditation for decades and don't become the ultimate wizard until I'm an old man with a long wizard beard and everything. The alternative is living like a nihilist, trying to "make the most of what time you have", never being truly fulfilled, and wasting away the years until being claimed by death. Better to try and transcend and live in excitement and with hope then to live like that.
>No, I'm talking most about Bardonites and Kabbalists of my acquaintance.Fuck Kabbalists. As for Bardonites, why would a follower of Franz Bardon say that? It's like being one of those christfags that denies everything in the bible is true. One must ask; then why are those stories and the claims they make in there? It's very obvious that Bardon magic involves very advanced powers. The ones you talk to are probably failures or not serious about what they're doing or whatever.
