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 No.97530

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/436dP FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html

 No.97531

Tip for anyone getting into alchemy. Don't fill the boiling vessel more than 1/6 or it may overflow


 No.97532

Also never use rubber clamps when distilling at 450C

Fuck


 No.97539

Lads -

I'm trying to study the power of affirmations at the moment. I've had a look through a couple of libraries but haven't had much success.

Can anyone recommend any books, articles, videos or sources in general concerning the use of affirmations?

First got interested when I found out that Scott Adams of Dillbert fame, alleged IQ north of 180, repeats his affirmations/long term goals 15 separate times a day. He's a buttoned down kind of guy, affirmations is the only kind of /fringe/ tier belief he seems to follow.


 No.97545

>>97539

First three steps of the mental exercises of "Initiation into Hermetics' by Franz Bardon are pretty good to get your mind ready and receptive to suggestions. You don't have to do the physical and magical training exercises of the first 3 steps. Just the mental exercises.

You can search for positive affirmations on google. realsubliminal.com has good sets of affirmations for specific goals, although I wouldn't recommend using any subliminal audios you don't create yourself. Record the affirmations in voice form and learn some audio editing and create your own audios.

You can even start creating unique symbols of these affirmations and start casting sigils. Check out phil hine - condensed chaos for info on that.

Learning to feel even a minute of pure (or as pure as possible) physical and mental relaxation everyday, should be number 1 on your list before doing this. I've noticed that feeling even 5 seconds of physical relaxation everyday, whether from yoga, exercise, etc., significantly unclutters your head and you've got more clarity throughout the day. Just 5 seconds. Extend that to 15 minute or 30 will work wonders to empty your mind to input affirmations. Interestingly, relaxation depolarizes and detaches you from your programming, so you can even observe your previous programming from better perspective and even transform those.

This is what I would suggest if you're looking for some practical techniques.

If you want to go deeper, you can look into something Hermetic. I like the Kybalion for knowledge of the principles and Initiation into Hermetics for practical purposes, but I would recommend looking into Stepher E. Flowers' 'Hermetic Magic.' for a more scholarly but simplified and historical understanding of the roots and influences and different schools of thought in relation to Hermeticism.


 No.97548

File: 8d5bfcd918b5835⋯.png (159.02 KB, 764x744, 191:186, MONTALKISGOOD.png)

Does anyone have the last two books mentioned in pic related, Magical Use of Thought Forms and Chasing Phantoms?


 No.97549

>>97548

I would dump most of the WWA stuff. Look for books that are stand alone, containing concise theory and practice. If an author cannot do that then they usually are more adept at writing than the actual work.


 No.97550

Would I be able to obtain an Eidetic memory by affirming it through self-hpynosis? I've already read the Atkinson books

>>97549

I agree with this. Atkinson needed an editor; his memory books are 100 pages of quotes and anecdotes and < 20 of advice


 No.97551


 No.97557

File: 2c540a264f26b2e⋯.gif (1.28 MB, 337x388, 337:388, giphy (2).gif)

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>>97550

>>97549

How I feel about Atkinson. He's got clues and techniques that can help, but you've really got to sift through A LOT of bs, which is fucking tedious.


 No.97558

>>97557

Atkinson makes you feel Jewish? He is pretty slimy.


 No.97564

>>97549

>>97550

>>97557

Fringefags should come together and slim down Atkinsons material, get rid of all the ballast. He has about a thousand more pages than necessary in his works, imo.


 No.97566

>>97564

the recommendation to read it is from the original board owner anyway that's a LARPing schizo lvl 80 armchair occultist

kybalion + theory section of iih will set you on your way


 No.97567

>>97564

That's actually a pretty good idea.


 No.97568

>>97566

Also, this. Attached. Study the Corpus Hermeticum for theory part of Hermetic Magic and Greek-Egyptian Magical Papyri for practical "operative" Hermetic magic.

Look into Bardon as well, although I'd advise you to create your own unique personal meta-system within Bardon's system.

Read attached along with Bardon's theory section before jumping into practice.

Foundation in theory before practice is an alchemical maxim. Theory also involves historical context to get a much wider picture. Anyways done.


 No.97569

>>97568

Sorry file too big. Here is a link to pdf:

http://bookzz.org/book/904800/15101f


 No.97572

>>97539

_Initiation Into Hermetics_


 No.97573

File: 27bd3137705845d⋯.pdf (1.82 MB, Chasing_Phantoms.pdf)

>>97548

Good lucc, I believ n u :^)


 No.97574


 No.97575

>>97572

Shit, Youtube formatting again


 No.97578

Cultivating "supernatural" abilities is like weightlifting. The average person when they get into occult phenomena decides they want to do that. So as a metaphor, they do as someone trying to bench for the first time and load up hundreds of pounds. Then when the bar won't move at all they declare lifting weights to be impossible and all weight lifters to be charlatans who use fake weights.

You gotta start lifting nothing, meditating, and work your way up.


 No.97582

Who is Chansey and why does Smiley trust her with the board?

(5. No identifying posts / namefag drama)

 No.97583

File: c880cf6d25d6cc3⋯.jpg (77.08 KB, 210x210, 1:1, SW_sm1.jpg)

>>97578

This man is right,

know how

vivid thoughtforming

Powerful energy body

+ optional wisdom

This is what you need for the siddhis


 No.97584

>>97582

As if it would be any more stable with him? Someone that cuts themselves up has more important issues to worry about than running a board.


 No.97587

>>97584

Was his instability obtained before or after he got into the occult? Why do some people become crazy after practicing the occult, skipping steps?


 No.97588

>>97587

As Saul says

first off you gotta start with milk before you can move on to bread and meat


 No.97589

>>97587

Most likely unstable before and just became worse as he turned over his reality to outside phenomena.


 No.97590

>>97587

>skipping steps?

Correctomundo, when occultists say to stay grounded, they mean lifting weight, eating right, showering, being happy. If you can imagine a man without all these things, imagine that same man with unlimited super-volatile energy coursing through him, its not recommended

>>97584

>suicidal schizoid NEET who can barely manage not to completely lose himself to psychotic mania

>stacy

Yeah no thanks I'll take Smiley.


 No.97594

What are some nice books on astral projection?


 No.97595

>>97594

Do you mean astral projection, OBE, or new age "astral projection"?


 No.97596

>>97594

Astral Dynamics ; ''New Energy Ways

>>97595

>New age "astral projection"

I'm really startin' to like this guy


 No.97597

>>97595

Not the same guy but non new age would be nice


 No.97603

>>97596

new energy ways v2 is so fucking sexy i just wanna make sweet love to it


 No.97604

>>97597

Astral projection is simply the projection of your awareness. IIH is likely your best bet if you have no foundation yet.

Many people who become interested in esoteric phenomena fall into a trap believing they can contact "other realms", gods, demons, aliens, alternate dimensions etc. These are mental constructs though not necessarily yours. I'd recommend you don't fall into one of these dead ends and ground yourself in reality. A novel example of AP is people who can know 100% the order of cards in a deck they did not shuffle, without tricks.


 No.97608

>>97548

here's magical use of thoughtforms, too big to upload

https://mega.nz/#!51Z3yYbT!bMfcfIacr10vWs7eCHzz2Fe0dKbyXK6aDiD7FqVtim8


 No.97615

>>97604

Isn't viewing the physical realm etheric projection/OBE and not AP?


 No.97618

Would I be able to obtain an Eidetic memory by affirming it through self-hpynosis? I've already read the Atkinson books


 No.97619

>>97618

No, that would not work. It has nothing to do with how you choose to think, so it would stay the same. What you need to do is memory exercises.


 No.97621

>>97619

Ok. That's rather sound advice. I have used the method of loci and other mnemonics and have used the meditations in the superthread. There's this guide that involves using servitors (called Tulpas here) to use mnemonics with little input on your end to greatly enhance your memory. Could that work to the same degree as the author claimed?


 No.97622

File: 000a9fba809da90⋯.png (353.59 KB, 1310x2779, 1310:2779, 000a9fba809da9061fddd21784….png)

>>97619

>>97621

I meant referring to this guide. Are the memory claims possible?


 No.97624

>>97622

I have seen this somewhere. Years ago on /x/, I am sure of it. Those techniques of his reminded me of hypnosis a lot.


 No.97626

>>97624

It is directly from /x/, I found this image and an archive of the thread. Yes, they are get you to do the exact same thing as hypnosis (calm your mind & go into a trance etc.). Do you think this is possible to pull off?


 No.97630

>>97626

I guess you won't really know until you try, right?


 No.97631

>>97626

I am sure it is. You just likely will not be able to do it long enough to get results. No offense.

And to everyone.

http://www.occult-mysteries.org/franz-bardon-books.html

thoughts?


 No.97632

>>97631

The author of this review has their own cosmology and paradigm that they are trying to critique Bardon's through. It would have been better for the author to first set aside their established beliefs before attempting to review Bardon. The serious student will find out from experience not from another's mouth.


 No.97633

>>97632

Agreed. Bardon's work were, and are, a treasure trove for me.


 No.97637

>>97633

The only problem with IIH lies in the people who read it. IIH is like a big tower, with step one as the foundation. And if you skip a single step it all comes crashing down on you. Certain people on this board have gone even crazier after attempting IIH and not doing step one properly.


 No.97639

>>97637

Exactly!

So many people underestimate Step One when it is the most crucial (imo). And even if you do not continue in the IIH, but master step one - you will gain a lot.


 No.97642

>>97639

>imo

Bardo not says multiple times "if you neglect the soul mirror all effort is for naught". Can you achieve some of the siddhi outlined in the first 5 steps without properly completing step one? Yes some people may be able to. But if you do manage to you'll probably fuck yourself up.


 No.97644

File: 0ad69704a847458⋯.jpg (79.24 KB, 581x800, 581:800, 21740369944_15b1cb8b5a_c.jpg)

What do the magicians of /fringe/ think about the "art of conjuring" or magic, not magick? You know illusions like cups and balls, props, card art etc.


 No.97645

>>97644

Magic, magic, majik, etc are all bullshit terms. There is no such thing as magic, there is no existence of the "paranormal". All Things follow The Law which is Truth.


 No.97646

>>97644

I don't really care one way or another, my first legitimate birthday party was themed around stage magic though. Most of the people I've met who do that stuff end up being pricks though.

>>97645

That was a pretty useless response and had nothing to do with the question. And your semantics are shit.


 No.97647

>>97646

>that was a pretty useless response

Yes, and?

>your semantics are shit

Yes, and?

You're all wasting your time in this dead end shit site anyways.


 No.97648

What holidays do the denizens of /fringe/ observe? Do you just take part in the secular aspects? Which is your favorite? Is there a holiday for Kek yet?


 No.97649

File: e938023b1492199⋯.jpg (105.17 KB, 800x600, 4:3, cfef4ed07c633b563c17e1f789….jpg)

>>97648

My Birthday.


 No.97650

What's the best way to 'heal' yourself. I got some stomach problems; acid reflux fucking me up, causes heartburn, pain in the throat, whatever. Doesn't matter.

I just affirming my intent constantly (i.e. thought form type of shit) enough? Or do any of you niggas maybe have some dank ass qi gong or something.


 No.97652

>>97649

Spoken like a true Satanist.

>>97650

Maybe try more visualization, I like to imagine liquidy golden light filling my body and centralizing brightly on the spot that needs work. Energy Work and Magical Use of Thoughtforms both teach things that can be used for self-healing.


 No.97656

>>97650

>visualization

Breathe. Breathe hard. Use all muscles of the stomach. Make room for the stuff in your gut to move around properly by stretching and breathing. Do situps. Stomach chakra, fix it.


 No.97657

So I was petting my cat when _I_ started purring, in the center of my chest. I have perceived black acidic shit where the center of my chest is, and where my mouth is, and probably other places too like the top of my head.

Just before that I turned my shower cold.

Yesterday I became like black water, shamanistic, and helped someone see something in their life where they broke down crying, through a tarot reading.

I don't even know much, I just look up some western/chinese zodiac stuff, read the Kybalion, and have read random tidbits from different systems. I've been going on personal experience this whole time and shit keeps happening.

I NEED MATERIAL FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NATURAL WIZARDS/SHAMANS WITHOUT TRAINING.

Pitching to Black Aether and it's fun, all about sensation intelligence really (both of which I got from /fringe/ and /occult/)… heh, Black Pitch. I must be building a SHIP. Honestly my nightmares have gotten creative and more exciting. or ironic, which is still fun. The closer to Black Aether I get, the closer to Earth reality I get, and its resulting in crazy shit happening.

Also, anyone have experience with astral Bene Gesserit entities/groups? I'm wondering if the Dune series is based in reality somewhere. I suppose all possibilities exist at once.


 No.97658

>PSYCHOPATH STARE

http://flyingmonkeysdenied.com/2016/06/02/sociopath-stare-and-psychopath-eyes-major-red-flag-aspd-by-nature/

Anyone else able to pull this off? It usually gets my dick wet.

How do you use it? Consciously or subconsciously? Coupled with humor or tension?


 No.97659

>>97657

>I NEED MATERIAL FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NATURAL WIZARDS/SHAMANS WITHOUT TRAINING.

?


 No.97662

>>97659

"How not to" not "How to", a book for those who have chaotic power and need to understand what's happening to them, how to avoid problems, redirect forces already present, that type of stuff.

Top down rather than bottom up I suppose.


 No.97666

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>97644

I have been into magic for as long as I have been into the occult. I honestly cannot remember what interest came first. Magic can complement your occult practice quite a bit, as well as impressing outsiders with your skills. My interest is in the area of Bizarre Magic, which takes in elements of Occultism, Mentalism, and standard sleight of hand.

Jeff Mcbride is a wonderful magician and is into hermeticism and alchemy as well. Eugene Burger is probably the figurehead of Bizarre Magic nowadays. It is no wonder that they happen to work closely with each other.

http://www.mcbridemagic.com/

http://www.magicbeard.com/

http://www.magicalwisdom.com/


 No.97682

Does anybody know a spell to eliminate fear of failure?

I am a mundane for the most part ive only read like 5 books ._.


 No.97683

"In reality the various gods and goddesses of national (natural) traditions are mere images of real archetypes which in fact exist beyond their sensible images.This is

why, to the highly initiated Hermetic, there is no real difference between Thoth and Hermes, Re and Helios, or Set and Typhon.

But To practical-minded magicians, the images can nor be dispensed with just because they are quasi-illusions. Magicians must inspire and motivate their own psyche to effective action. In the early stages of initiation such motivation is virtually impossible to accomplish with absttact philosophical jargon. The soul is stirred to action by myth and poetry. This is why the magical formulas are usually based on mythic understandings. This practical stage may not be dispensed with- and this is a great secret of postmodern Hermetic Magic."


 No.97686

>>97548

I don't know if it's in here, but Ape's library from 4/x is pretty massive:

https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ


 No.97687

>>97686

Are you the one that puts up new posts on /occult/ and sages them all?


 No.97689

>>97682

Fail more. Realize you are still alive. Keep failing until it's second nature to you.


 No.97690

>>97687

No. I've only looked at /occult/ once, but it seemed a bit dead so I didn't stay long.

Why is that board up though? What's the difference between /occult/ and /fringe/? Isn't the community small enough?


 No.97691

>>97687

I usually samefag pretty hard, so I sage all my posts after the first one out of politeness.


 No.97693

>>97690

I watch it periodically for new posts. One anon in particular sages all the posts in his thread for some reason. It has been a couple days since he last posted though.


 No.97695

>>97568

Do you have a copy of the Egyptian Magical Papyri as well? Thanks in advance


 No.97701

>>97682

>>97689 is sound advice. This one guy got over his fear of rejection by attempting to get rejected every day for 100 days or a year or something. Sometimes people surprised him by saying yes to things, but the point was to make requests so outlandish or bold that they would be turned down. You kind of have to do the same thing with failing. Just make sure that a comfort with failure doesn't go so far that you accept adequacy (or even worse, inadequacy). But if you're even concerned about this in the first place, it probably won't. Also lift weights. Good luck.


 No.97703

>>97690

>What's the difference between /occult/ and /fringe/

It looks like they attempted to make it more serious and on point with topics related to the occult field such as Thelema, Golden Dawn, Alchemy etc. I suppose /fringe/ could be seen as a general occult board but more along the lines of newfigs asking for spells, shitposting, schizophrenic drama, and misc conspiracy /x/ tier crap.


 No.97704

Which mega folder has a Neo-Platonist section?

I recall there being one somewhere.


 No.97708

>>97539

I read somewhere that Scott stated somewhere that he could go into a paralel universe where his show wasn't canceled or something.

He's definitely a wizard if that's true, and I don't know why some random person would lie about that.


 No.97709

>>97708

>definitely

prob

but also maybe I got the quote wrong or someone misinterpreted something, idk!

he's called himself a wizard (of persuasion at least)


 No.97711

>>97703

>and misc conspiracy /x/ tier crap

Its all real. All of it. From reptilians to ancient nukes and hollow planets. Every last bit. Except the bullshit.


 No.97719

>>97690

/fringe/ is /b/ for wizards

/occult/ is /lit/ for wizards

I think that was their original idea


 No.97721

>>97662

Still do the basics or go through hard trials which you can't complete unless greatly intuitive and intelligent.

You still need to go through hard trials to reach knowledge that can't be found on a text page, why not read everything and be glad there is something to read? Sorting out the bills hit from the real stuff is part of the internal alchemy you should be doing anyway, reading "wrong" or "bad" texts that might contain some truth or good revelations also pushes you forward.


 No.97722

>>97719

Why did it never take off? Should we attempt to wake it up? I for one would like a place where we can talk and debate certain subjects, without it devolving into tantrums and name calling each other bullshit occultists.


 No.97723

What is magic? Magic is the ability to make the universe conform to your divine will.

What is shitposting? A properly executed shitpost is the ultimate medium of will and or information, a shitpost whether fact or fiction, (mostly facts because truth hurts), presented in multiple dimensions to make you flare up and get you emotionally engaged, on more than one level, a masterfully delivered shitpost could make you feel love and hate at the same time, just reading a few eloquent words meant to trigger you into thinking or self reflect, in this sense, a shitpost is a tiny enlightenment, it has the potential to put the reader in a conscious state of mind able to inspect and redefine his ego, in this way, a shitpost is a virus, its an apex predator of linguistic communication that bridges logic and emotion, it has the power to change the very essence of a person permanently to that which was intended with the post, the quantity of change in perspective or reason, unfortunately depends on the depth of which the reader is able to comprehend the shitpost, but that is why we keep it simple, cause people are idiots.

Its also very fun. That is why we're here, and not on /occult/.


 No.97725

File: f6d1ce949ffcb10⋯.jpg (37.14 KB, 700x525, 4:3, 1405636787363.jpg)

Quack.


 No.97734

>>97723

Most often the shitposting devolves into blabber and derails any productive conversation within a thread. I for one would like >>>/occult/ to become active again. 90% of the discussion here revolves around the same questions over and over.


 No.97736

>>97734

>90% of the discussion here revolves around the same questions over and over.

…and you expect that to change how? Magick deals with the fundamental metaphysical questions. So there will always be discussion around the same shit.

…and those that got to the end of the road and now know everything don't really have to ask anyone any questions anymore because God just tells us what we need to know.


 No.97752

File: 88947ca729d9368⋯.png (73.94 KB, 249x294, 83:98, 2017-03-07T233248434820297….png)

new wizard here

kinda just studying in general and bringing everything into one reality.

whats a good book on time magick?

ould be useful for my spell book.


 No.97756

File: d2d1b709a09eaf1⋯.jpg (44.96 KB, 607x567, 607:567, 1479609077951.jpg)


 No.97760


 No.97761

How much time per day is a good amount of time to spend studying/practicing?


 No.97762

>>97761

It depends on what exercises or practices you plan on doing. It can be as small as 15-30 minutes a day. The key is that it has to be consistent so that it becomes habit and not something that is dreaded. You can even break up the work and space it out throughout the day. A small time set aside everyday is far more valuable than a large amount of time thrown at it haphazardly.


 No.97763

>>97762

I suppose what I should ask next is, should I free myself of as many worldly distractions as I possibly can?


 No.97764

File: 4eeb02454bcf627⋯.jpg (18.6 KB, 236x266, 118:133, 4eeb02454bcf6279c985766e42….jpg)

>>97763

From my experience I would say do not become to rigid and embedded in a fixed routine. Spirit and mind and fluid and implementing strict order like stone unto yourself can actually be quite counter-productive. Enhance intuition and contemplation, be creative and open, don't lock yourself into one perspective and practice without greater understanding or you will hit a wall regardless and be pushed from the path. If you are wanting to achieve enlightenment, raise karma, master discipline, then my greatest piece of advice is to follow the tibetan buddhist tradition. They have the best resources of manuals and texts which instruct practitioners without any of the poetic obscurisms and convoluted terminology. It is easily accessible and the tibetan tradition resonates with a huge amount said on /fringe/ just its outcome and interpretation of what is to be done of it is different. For instance the practice of magic is the craving of life and it is founded on desire something which is contradiction to the buddhist level of spiritual evolution. Ultimately you must find your own path and be aware of the risks and responsibilities of any given path which is why a basic, but in depth, study of anthropology is vital to know and guage these things beside each other. You will come into a multitude of contradictions from any perspective; very common examples are the eating of meat and clothing, something I have found people to hugely disagree on varying from tradition to tradition. Be flexible and come at things with an intention to exapnd and learn that way you do not hurt yourself and take away the ground you stand upon when something comes along which takes you out, ideas of this magnitude can be daunting and soul-destroying if taken in the wrong context or practice. In the end, nobody can really tell you this is the optimal way to do things or even what really is good for YOU. We live in a stranger time than ever, lifestyles are incredibly diverse and different with also individuals being more and more particular. People forge their own way and simply copying someone else cannot fully be emulated as so much is relative in this spiritual area.

Thinking and asking people how much time should I study x? would imply to me you haven't done much already. Study and research should be an integral part of your life if this is one of your planned pursuits unless you are following the eastern tradition. Come to a level of understanding where you can make your own mind up about things; obviously keeping away from as many wordly distractions isn't a very popular choice here as we are using the internet though it definitley is good in small doses. I would be very surprised if you could just go cold turkey on everything right away, even buddhists do no reccomend it, jumping in at the deep end can make you never jump in again, dip your toe in each respective water and try to find the place where you most float. It is not as simple as "Should I study and meditate for this long a day?" or "Should I abandon meat, vain clothing, and my bed?" Instead raise your level of understanding in spiritual manners so that you realise what these truly mean, read more and gain insight/ideas into each tradition, reality, and yourself. Anyway I hope this helps a bit. God bless you.


 No.97765

>>97763

In the beginning only if those distractions interfere with the time set aside for your practice. If you mean worldly distractions in the big sense, I would suggest establishing a routine first before trying to cut too many ties.


 No.97771

>>97722

Are you christain?


 No.97785

How active is this board compared to pre-2017?

Is FringeChan dead for good?


 No.97787

Must we always reincarnate in the physical plane? If so can we choose whether or not we are born in this current timeline?


 No.97788


 No.97790

File: 7d9d971faecdb71⋯.jpg (26.97 KB, 415x233, 415:233, StrepPR-A-enIL[1].jpg)

I just realized that changing my voice would actually have an effect on my personality. Any Wizard knows of methods for doing this? I would want to have a deeper tone , I think my voice is too high pitched and it affects the image I have of myself and my self-esteem.


 No.97791

I can't feel anything when i'm trying to manipulate energy in body. This is really frustrating, because i could do it quite well for some years. Somehow i've become numb.

What can i do?


 No.97792

>>97765

I don't necessarily mean divorcing myself from civilization, more like whether I should stop doing the things I do in my free time.


 No.97793

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


 No.97795

>>97790

THERE IS A TL:DR, READ THE GREEN STUFF OR FIRST PARAGRAPH IF YOU'RE TO OUT OF TUNE TO FOLLOW MY RAMBLINGS

carry the breath differently for different effect and practice singing or just OM AUM all day and make it as earthshattering reverberating as possible to unlock energy pathways in the physical making your immaterial align, doing sounds and stretching your neck, swinging it around to a beat and just bopping it back and forth to activate and train all the muscles of neck and above to unlock the three higher chakras which are very much related to sound.

start with a very solid root, say, deep trance and imagine yourself a giant with everything from waist down embedded into the earth like a giant root system taking energy from the planet core, then using that energy to affirm your root and kingdom, moving it to the second chakra, sexuality and confidence in all things (if you are a male this is done best by moving crown energy to the third chakra for storage and let it seep into the second chakra, male energy is active and takes action, it creates and moves, you want male energy, not female) then transfer this energy and confidence in yourself to the third chakra and keep it there to "save" it, to cultivate grace in sex, charisma and all related in all every day menial tasks, making something as casual as moving with determination to fetch the snailmail sexy, because you're doing it like a fucking boss, while doing all these things in your mind (moving energy with emotion and intent) you will feel the body react, your assmuscle will tense after you've taken in enough earth energy, moving it to the second will tense another few muscles in the penis root, moving on to the third a muscles above the penis at waist height related to keeping piss and shit not flowing out your ass when you move with the energetic telltale step that you get if you do these energy works right, next as you are done storing, keeping, remembering the feeling in the third chakra your solar plexus will tense, you have now set up the foundation for breathing, these are all the muscles and more you should consciously if not subconsciously be tensing to various degrees to express and assert your superiority as god peeking into the material from the immaterial, once this is set up you move the energy from the third where you store these emotions, to the heart, the fourth chakra, this is when the rhythmic breathing starts ramps up the aura to broadcast that you are all that you are, this will give you a swagger when moving and will make you feel the rhythm of all, it will among other things activate some muscles in the legs, making you able to move and dance according to the tune of your heart, IE, you wont walk like an autist with different height high heels but actually like someone with purpose in his stride, good job, now you've got the breath part done, everything is set up for you to speak with clarity, with a completely new voice, the vibrations travel through the acoustically tuned body to produce a voice that is kinda talk show worthy.

at that point you could, if you like, move all the energy of the heart, in turn the emotions and energy from the chakra feeding the heart (third) to overclock your aura, to your fifth chakra, the throat to achieve somewhat temporary (to permanent) masterful oratory proficiency, but you still wont be able to pronounce a multitude of sounds properly until you've fully explored and made active use of all the muscles in the neck and above as some sounds are meant to reverberate through your skull, top two chakras, to give it the proper resonance, who also contribute with their energy when you speak.

i'm going to be a cunt and dictate powerlevels now, rule of thumb, you're not done with energywork until you have complete mastery of your body, balance and bowel movements etc, a good example of what you should easily be able to do is to anywhere in the world, the bus, public toilet, or at work powerfully force open the crown chakra by tensing sublime muscles on the scalp, face neck and pressure points in the brain to have cosmic energy flow through you like a torrent that can be felt, something you learn only once you have felt out or activated these muscles through deep meditation, having felt out every minuscule part of the body with your consciousness.

>tl:dr complete your energy work, master your body & breathe with intent


 No.97796

the internal reflects the external and vice versa.

meaning you could take the short route and fake it till you make it by singing along to songs that that carry the tune you want to acclimate.

but you still need to know the above.


 No.97797

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of course to be able to do any of this you need to not be a bullshit occultist.

>being a bullshit occultist

>not feeling energy

>not doing casual energywork all the time

>not being in charge

>not knowing your breath

>not having energy to throw ghosts at people

>only channel female energy making him an effeminate wimp

>not having masculine energy rein in the female


 No.97798

>>97791

i had this issue, you need more energy, your third eye has relatively little energy compared to the rest of your now active chakras, having it underachieve as compared to when the other chakras didn't siphon off energy. try closing blocks. raise kundalini. draw from the heavens. takes tops a couple of weeks. faster if you close leaks. work on third eye.


 No.97799

>>97787

>timeline

there is only the present. your idea of this concept is flawed.

you get a few options depending on your karma, what you need to learn to improve but the options presented you by something that in presence feels like a glowing orb, letting you peek into the material, showing you how the life will be, you may then discard or reincarnate. there are more conditions beside that such as lineage which gives you dibs to reincarnate within a certain lineage because its something you evolved along with, something you are the most compatible with, least resistance, meaning you have first dibs if you want it. i really feel it worthy of mention to add that if the lineage is corrupted you are no longer compatible with it, women take the first seed of a man and absorb the DNA into their spinal and brain fluids, somehow it even moves to the frontal cortex and attaches there, IE, the mans seed changes the frequency of the woman allowing your spiritual lineage to reincarnate there should they chose which is exactly why this fuck around culture is degenerate.


 No.97800

i should set up a market of virgin eggs for the upcoming DNA patchwork evolution.


 No.97801

>>97799

By timeline I meant this specific "earth" or this specific physical plane we are in, there are more physical "worlds" than this one


 No.97802

>>97801

if you mean planets yes but it doesnt work like in rick and morty, in actuality the, lets use that show as an example you've probably seen it or are familiar with this take on reality, in actuality all these "alternative universes" are merely present possibilities currently in the "thoughtsphere" (astral), waiting to be realized.


 No.97803

And if you want to reincarnate as something better, say a giant insect or become the spirit that inhabits a planets soul, you need to have a spirit of such frequency, you need to evolve massively.


 No.97822

I give up. Nothing works. I've wasted more than three years of my life to this shit. See you in afterlife and feel free to mock me there, because we won'r be seeing again.


 No.97823


 No.97824

>>97792

Well you are going to have to reduce some of your free time in order to make new time for your work. You don't have to stop doing whatever activities that you do in your free time, just reduce the time set aside for them. Start with a small allotted time for your work in order to get used to having something new to do. After awhile you may want to increase the time, but don't let it overcome the time you spend doing things really enjoyable with friends and family. Otherwise you may end up resenting the time you spend doing your exercises thereby losing the passion for them or stopping altogether.


 No.97828

>>97822

Even if it's your first reincarnation reading the laws, you have come a long way, best of luck and prosperity in your life, bless.

As I told you, I had this period as well where I couldn't feel shit, trying to mend it it many different ways I just gave up and some months later I could feel the energy again.

No clue as to why.


 No.97829

>>97828

But you know,probably most likely third eye gets no action and you don't have enough energy.

Thinking back at it it's like someone just cut some cord and it wasn't there anymore and just as suddenly it was back.


 No.97830

>>97530

What does /fringe/ think about Manly P. Hall?


 No.97831

How can you tell between a lucid dream and AP?


 No.97832

>>97831

Lucid dreams don't have vibrations.


 No.97838

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>>97785

It's still fairly populated, I think the most users that this board had was around about 80 which was last year but it seems a lot of people left. It's alright though, fringechan may be dead but it's fairly comfy here now.

Also I lurk here fairly rarely, I missed the day when IDs were enabled, then I fucked off for a while and now they're disabled again. When did that happen?


 No.97839

>>97838

I think the new BO enabled them and they were fun for a while but then people realized that they couldn't shitpost as well because of it so now they're gone again. They went away pretty recently, like maybe last week or something.


 No.97842

>>97719

More like this

/fringe/ is for spell magick

/occult/ is for initiatory paths


 No.97844

How many politicians in the US have been blackmailed after going to Epstein's pedo island? I remember reading about Trump going there - is he a jewish puppet or is he a legit billionaire who is just lyke me and has the back of the American people he's cared about for so long?

Lmk.

I'm trying to be the next Trump and want to make sure America is the right place. I am not going to start an empire in Amerisrael because I fucking hate slimeball kikes. Thanks and advanced!


 No.97845

>>97839

Wait, there's a new BULLSHIT OCCULTIST?

Also I hate to admit when you are right but I legit lmaod at the Alex Jones flag. Praise be upon Allah!


 No.97846

>>97832

Yeah lcuid dreems dont have cell phones vibrating when someone liked your comment.


 No.97847

>>97822

When all else fails, drink an entire bottle of cough medicine and sell your soul to S*tan.


 No.97848

>>97846

It's more like a crystal tone


 No.97849

>>97848

Crystal bowl*


 No.97850

How do I not get triggered when my smug spoiled rich cunt mother sends me an email making fun of me for being poor and uses the abbreviation "LMK". When you are told how much of a piece of shit you are for not popping your collar and hitting the links and then in addition to that that person casually uses LMK to remind you that their barbaric wavelength runs the entire world and they can just shorten words whenever they want while condemning any slang you come up with while you starve it's impossible to not kick holes into your selfish obese manlet kike "haha someone poor suffered and I profitted from it haha *sips 50 dr peppers*" landlords wall.


 No.97851

>>97850

Should I marry Jared Kushner? I want his slimeball mouth on my satanic cock. I get super jealous when I see him with the tranny Ivan Trump. I wanna put on a teddy and have him use me like the good goy I am.


 No.97852

>>97851

Am I insane? Why do I keep having dreams about my brother (who I hate) losing his legs, which should be a dream come true, but then I help him? If you subtract our birthdays from eachother why do you get Aleister Crowleys birthday? Why can people call me schizophrenic but I cant call them a nigger or kike? Why would anyone else who went through what I did kill themselves but I just laugh at it? When will I get more than 2 dollars in dimes? Why cant i buy weed in a store? Why do I fantasize about making sex with marina abramovic? Why do I get super high from just letting it all out and being myself instead of being a cryptic faggot jew? When is someone just gonna drop a nuke on this faggot shithole earth so we can have nice things? Why is saying "how are you doing today?" Normal but saying "ajajdjehhs djejsjejejsjsjw" enough to get you put in a mental institution? When the first person said "how are you doing today" everyone tried to kill them, but now we all say it. Why is it illegal to create new things? Why should every abrahamic fuck not be put in a fucking oven? Why did I walk in front of a car then walk away like nothing happened? Why did I used to know how to levitate but now i'm sitting on a couch whacking off? Why were my dreams me flying and now they are just me watching other people live their boring ass lives? And when is someone gonna ass ass uh nate ronald mctrumpald so I can fucking buy weed in a mother fucking sessionless world?


 No.97853

Does anyone here know if Jared Kushner bleaches his anus? I am not sure if I would like it bleached or browned after a nice poo poo.


 No.97855

>>97853

I am a professional ass inspector who has jerked off to millions of butts so I will look into this


 No.97856

Is there any way to achieve higher power?

Whatever that may mean or entail. Quite the broad question i know but it is the first one of many to come.


 No.97857

>>97856

Yes, you can achieve power.


 No.97858

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>>97857

What about the higher power of flatulence? I am very interested in fecalmancy. Specifically divining through my feces, and the making of tiny sigil scrolls that I place up my rectum. I have no problem being called a bullshit occultists as this word implies the use of shit, feces, poo poo, do do, poop, etc.

Pic related is a fecal wizard.


 No.97859

Whats the best way to put this? Im just gonna let it out so it might not look perfect (fuck you)

If evil miracles can exist where you just get up and go destroy something/someone then the opposite must exist

Basically, there is a counterpart to the murderer.

Im overthrowing the current power structure here because they murder who they want then put other people in prison for murdering who they want, which is fucking retarded. I'm gonna start by doing the opposite of murder. I want to do something like cure down syndrome. The words to explain this dont really exist yet because everyone is too afraid to do the impossible. I'm done sitting around while evil gets a pass on everythig. You can ruin countless lives then get a plea bargain. Nah. I am holding everyone accountable and I am gonna start by performing miracles. It is so fucking easy to be evil, 99.99999% take the easy way out and look the other way at it, and thanks to trumpmania/the john oliver cult its actually COOL to be evil as long as you are destroying people who disagree with

I am changing that. This species has been diseased long enough. Its too fucking disgusting. These sick fucks have even infected the fucking air I breathe with their evil ways.

Shitty evil people gain power because they go all in on their easy path and they are more dedicated than the light workers/superheroes/whatever the fuck.

Time to flip things around!


 No.97860

I find it fucking hilarious that this board is slow as fuck like normal with decent threads at the top, but as soon as I contribute relevant information it gets buried in a sudden avalanche of shitposts out of nowhere.

>suspicious

On another note, the other night I was on a walk with my ditzy spiritual friend. She falls for shit like Teal Swan on youtube, has a deep connect with her homie Jesus Christ and other Ascended Masters, you get the idea. But we sat down next to a creek to relax and discuss astrology, kind of a tradition at this point. We ended up having sex right there next to the creek in nature. Didn't realize the entire time I was leaning against a poison ivy bush. She even started playing with the leaves in the dark and ripping them apart with both hands. Didn't get a rash and just brushing up against one leaf used to set me off as a kid. The fuck is this bitch? How did I not react? Is she some sorta incarnated nymph?


 No.97865

>>97860

A whore who just gave you genital warts hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha


 No.97874

How do I turn my balls into meteors so I can destroy the fucking planet?


 No.97875

>>97874

Ask a tanuki, they know all about giant balls


 No.97876

How do i make fireballs


 No.97877

>>97860

Usually one can become quite resilient to many negative forces during peak experiences.


 No.97878

>>97876

I have only been aware of "invisible" fireballs through the art of Fecalmancy. Most often the fireballs are not "seen" by the eyes but may be instead felt by a burning sensation upon the eyes of others present. The result of this magick leaves behind a foul noxious odor in the air. This smell is an evidence-based sign of real magick.


 No.97879

>>97860

sometimes poison ivy just doesn't do anything. I doubt she knows anything outside of your typical new ager.


 No.97886

>>97876

What if someone put a psychic limiter in humans cause they don't have the energy to split their biological energy like power plants split atoms to create fireballs cause we would zap all our mana and die?


 No.97891

>>97886

Then buy mana regen and make a mana build. Equip philosophers stone and you are all set.


 No.97897

>>97891

>no wand

you some kind of rogue sidespecc degenerate?


 No.97900

>>97878

You're using fecalmancy in your fecalpost there, I see.


 No.97912

>>Oo-Hwa-Deung-Sun

>first ever occult mention of growing wings outside of Egyptian et al reliefs

>red storm, the only manga i felt i wanted to pick up out of five recommended in another thread here on /fringe/

>manga is very much occult and emphasizes energy work, mentions Chi, Chakra, Force and makes a connection between them while separating them by the practices used to develop the energy

>this shit straight out of some temple wall inscriptions in Korea?

This mangaka like many others are very much into the occult and do their best to convey it, even shit like naruto, another favorite example ive been thinking about a lot would be Berserk, it feels like Murata writes the crescendo of the series like that gif with a girl dressed as america slapping a giant rubber dildo on a game of Risk but instead its a greenpill.

Is Oo-Hwa-Deung-Sun an actual practice or thing? What are the heavenly demon cults?


 No.97913

Dreamt of something called a "World Eater" last night. I was in a classroom for life, introducing basic albeit wholistic and axiomatic occult terms. Basic interpretation is the dream was reprimanding me over my lack of humility I imagine.

Now I'm fixated on knowing what the world eater is. I saw a lazy dragon with the mouth of a gavial, laying down and eating our planet like it's eaten many others. I've searched but I can't find anything at all on it. What is the world eater? What does it mean? I can give further dream background if interested.


 No.97914


 No.97915

>>97912

>murata

Kentaro Miura*


 No.97920

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>>97913

Looks like you got a very strong calling to Nidhogg, the dragon gnawing at the roots of the World Tree in Norse mythology.

Seriously though, if you're shitposting, fuck you


 No.97921

>>97920

Nig Nog?


 No.97927

>>97920

Strange. I've never heard of Nidhogg before. I don't know what a very strong calling to Nidhogg means, or why knowing what The World Eater is would deem worthy of being one of the axiomatic occult life lessons to be carried with someone as in my dream.

The dream: There were teachings I don't remember. Halfway through I feel I knew enough, was beyond the class. I get up to leave and the teacher stops me - explains that there are only two people who leave the classroom of life. First, those who know exactly why they are leaving and must fulfill that purpose. Two, those whose lives will descend, who's life are "going to get weird" (implied as unbalanced, out of wack, demented, loss of grace in a sense).

After hearing this, I agree and return to hear her out. She turns the lesson to teachers - "Many of the teachers, the real ones, gave up lives of Fame and Beauty (beauty stuck out as strange) to become teachers - because they followed the voice that said "wake up".

I connect to this voice in my, I feel its power moving in me, but nothing "happens". I see my peers are transfixed by the lesson, not paying attention to me. I'm between teacher and students lounging on a sofa. My peers are utter, total beginners who've never heard of anything being taught. I feel I should know it all, like I did at the start of my journey, but now it's a distant memory.

This is where she begins to explain what the world eater is. I see the vision of it and disconnect from her words. I feel that whatever function the world eater is in the psyche, that is where my intelligence, creativity, deduction, genius comes from. Further, that it's my wound. I wake up.

Can you help illuminate what this means?


 No.97936

>>97927

Blah blah blah I'm a larping faggot who can't let it go.

Yawn. TL; DR


 No.97937

>>97927

Of note- She asked me if I had a good reason, a purpose to leave the class. I couldn't answer it, and she says 'so it's going to get weird'. She returns. I feel it, that part of me that pulls me in this direction - It's a power of its own. Here is my wound.- This is where I return.


 No.97938

How do I stop laughing when cops/cia/jew faggots die? It's so funny it hurts!


 No.97939

>>97937

This is why we shouldn't create robots. Your words are fucking cancer.


 No.97940

>>97939

>>97936

Go away.

>>97937

My point is that these are two distinct powers I could feel. The part that is Nidhogg, and whatever the voice is that says "wake up".


 No.97941

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 No.97948

Has anyone here ever found their most ideal career using magical means?

Ever since i was a child i never knew what i wanted to be when i grow up, now im in college and im still struggling to find that dream career.

I know regular jobs are mundane but i want to be able to have normie job that id love doing while on my spirtual

journey. All help is appreciaited.


 No.97950

>>97948

Kill yourself.


 No.97951

>>97940

You are schizophrenic. It's time to see a doctor. One day you will get better, but when you act like this you are only harming yourself. I believe in you! You can do it!


 No.97952

>>97948

You're looking outward to fill an internal position. Look within. Don't look for positions that exist out in the world that can fulfill you. It might not even exist yet until you make it exist.

And then, consider that the outward position you fill in life doesn't matter, but that the position you fill within does. No difference between filling the position of a waiter vs an esteemed academic if you're fulfilling your life's purpose, dharma, higher calling, and so on.


 No.97953

>>97941

Wow he seems to be doing very well! I fucking love when cops/cia faggots/jews/politicians/bankers/lawyers die! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


 No.97963

>>97952

You make a great point, i suppose i need to try and do a bit of self reflection.

I guess everyone goes through this sort of uncertainty. Could you reccomend and types meditation or self reflection techniques?


 No.97968

>>97963

Generally as a Fecalmacer, I will meditate on my bowel movements particularly after a movement of considerable size. I usually reach into the toilet and pull a turd out to contemplate its size, smell, and texture. This meditation will allow me to focus in on the person that I was at the time the turd was forming. Perhaps anger and resentment made my turd far more harder and clumpier then it needed to be. I then try to determine if the Mars center is out of alignment as too much iron can cause constipation. This form of fecal self-reflection is extremely powerful.


 No.97969

>>97830

The Secret Teachings of All Ages is of great importance, Hall was a 33rd degree Freemason and not a mere armchair wizard.

I highly recommend reading it

especially for newfigs


 No.97974

>>97963

Find a means to communicate with your higher self. The higher self guides the way, and steers you away from danger.

Even then, the existence of your higher self does not remove your ego's free will. Its existence is not a cop out for you to ask the hard questions of life, to really enter into reality and accept that you are as real as the world around you.

"So it will be seen that spiritual growth is best attained by getting fully to grips with life in the world. It is a common pathology with esoterically inclined students that they want to find the easiest way out of it. This accounts for many of the "muzzy mystical" societies which give such a bad name to occultism. In a genuine occult school the student should be rammed good and hard into the maelstrom of life; and until he can cope efficiently with the physical plane the higher planes of experience should be barred to him – for his own sake as well as others."

Gareth Knight – Qabalistic Symbolism


 No.97976

>>97974

Thank you again for your incite; ill start looking into ways to talk to the higher self.


 No.97981

>>97976

Can you give me a list of CIA agents in wheelchairs? I wanna email them every single day and be like hahahahahahahaha you can't walk! Or Hey wanna go for a run later? Or come on dude why dont you just walk pusssssssyyyyy hahahahahahahahahha!

I love trolling psychopath murderers. It gets me so fucking horny!


 No.97982

>>97969

Dewd he was the best shooter in nba history so hes lyke the go two guy on the univerze dewd!

Nyce logic Kucksner. Go back to banging your ugly tranny huswife Ivan.


 No.97984

>>97982

Is schizo-posting the new epic meme?


 No.97990

I keep giving out my email to everyone and people I don't like never email me and I never ask them a second time even if I see them again about it. It's pretty epic but nobody can email me unless I want them to.


 No.97991

I have been working for last week or two on Earth element btw which is my weakest element. I think when I am done with the work on this element I will have attained enough power to reach a whole new tier of magickal prowess.


 No.97992

>>97976

I'm glad to have helped brother


 No.97999

>>97940

>>97940

>>wings

He has shitty wings though but it's something.

Mine are each longer than the body, white and golden when not representing the emotion I magic with and range in detail, with least detail being when I haven't used them for a while and most detail to the point I can make out individual feathers amongst ten thousand and feel the muscles used to move them during states of ecstacy, deep trance or heavy energy work.

They become more detailed the more energy you pour into them.

I think they are a result of trying to store energy in the heart, or having it "powered up" for long intense meditation periods that they had the leftover energy to develop.

Please tell me anything you can about this.


 No.98000

>>97999

Ignore first arrows and numbers, here's the new I found.

http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Have-Wings-In-My-Aura/2194566


 No.98002

>>97999

>>98000

Lately during some meditations, moving crown and root to heart, I feel as if another whole pair of wings are about to just burst forth already perfect and grown, while already cradled by one pair.

So far God has told me through manga that the wings are a sign of a cess to the heavens.

Through anecdotal note, someone's grandpa could see auras but only saw wings once ever.

Someone hinting that they grow with the energy added to them, would would coincide with the meditation and Egyptian imagery.

Some christcuck mentioned that o ly angels can have them.

A dozen more people website claim to have them, all these people are fairly advanced, can see auras minimum, are native Indian, spirit animals etc.


 No.98003

>http://humanityhealing.net/2009/01/awakening-human-angels-holy-grails/

> :^(

I've been doing my best trying to avoid these loonies.

What can /fringe/ tell me about them?


 No.98004

>>wings

nobody was talking about wings

>>98002

>So far God has told me

k

>>98003

>I've been doing my best trying to avoid these loonies.

and what makes you any different?

>>97828

>I just gave up and some months later I could feel the energy again.

>I gave up and things just worked out

See when normal people give up nothing happens


 No.98005

>>98004

I'm talking about wings, what are the heavenly demon aura techniques based on?


 No.98006

I found something not bad.

>12 years for body to adapt

What a pleb

http://www.experienceproject.com/stories/Am-An-Incarnated-Angel/1934421


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 No.98009

>>97940

Bumping for answers


 No.98010

I've always felt a longing to beings of death and the general deities that embody it, is there anything specifically esoteric about being drawn to concepts and beings like that?


 No.98012

>>98005

>heavenly demon

wut

>aura techniques based on?

blah blah visualize blah blah intent.

>>98006

>12 years for body to adapt

>What a pleb

You really are the last guy who should be giving advice on here

>>98007

>>98008

>every thing is vibration

yawn


 No.98013

>>98012

You really think you can do a twelve year paid vacation to explore your mind in current society? Isnt it also better to be able to quickly adapt to new frecuencies?

Maybe this guys rising is famous because he was so spectacularly bad at it?


 No.98014

>>98013

>You really think you can do a twelve year paid vacation to explore your mind in current society?

sure if I believed in it and really wanted it.

>Isnt it also better to be able to quickly adapt to new frecuencies?

only if you know what your getting into also

>Feel the love

>NEW

not seeing it

>Maybe this guys rising is famous because he was so spectacularly bad at it?

That or he kept at it despite not having immediate results


 No.98015

>>98014

Are you trying to convince someone not to quit? Almost sounds like it.


 No.98016

>>97953

Go away CIA


 No.98017


 No.98018

How do I stop being everything? I literally became god and control everything except my meat suit which is dying.


 No.98019

Hahahahahahha I love when little freeloading timewasting simpleton douchebag copycat dweeb faggot CIA cunts suffer or die!


 No.98021

>>98015

Are you trying to convince someone not to quit?

no just reminding lurkers we all cant be mary sue


 No.98022

File: 0ea38fbf25441f6⋯.png (292.55 KB, 405x598, 405:598, 1462636422071.png)

BO when are you gonna get rid of all the larpers?


 No.98023

>>98019

>>97981

>>97953

>>97938

either do something or stop larping


 No.98027

>>98021

>Mary sue

Quite the opposite Im starting to think were all proper bullshit ockultists, Reiki community out of all people provided part of the answer or confirmtion or clues.

Thats disheartening.


 No.98028

is that "I am a living god" better than this forum?


 No.98029

>>98028

Possibly. Only downside would be the demons.


 No.98030

>>98029

well, I'm not into it for the friends/fiends just to improve myself.

it's better than have larpers ruin discussion all the time


 No.98031

>>98030

Why care? Why give a fuck?


 No.98032

>>98031

why? It's simple, I enjoy listening and reading about what others are actually doing and sharing what I do.

I don't enjoy someone who just wants to waste my time.

fiction is nice and all but I prefer to separate it from fringe things and it needs structure and depth which larpers can't provide.


 No.98033

>>98032

Definie larper, i feel like its a widely used, very broad trem.


 No.98035

I highly doubt that any of you are practitioners of your work/art/girt professionally. I'm thinking about do it as a hobby and if any of you professionals (getting paid or getting services/goods in return) are here, what should I expect and what tips would like to depart?

I know most people i talk to will scoff at me at least, while others who i do work for will get angry because it isn't what they wanted to hear.


 No.98042


 No.98043

>>98035

>>98035

Ya dewd we are just Bullshit Occultists.

Go crash another plane triggered CIA Faggot.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-pilots-killed-in-plane-crash-at-new-jersey-airport/ar-BBBaP5A


 No.98044

Hi guyz. Longtime lurker here. I am just getting into this and a curious about what CIA means? Does it mean cock in ass? Is this the new 'faggot'?

Thanks and advanced.


 No.98046

File: d4a96c3a86a28a8⋯.jpg (56.93 KB, 540x298, 270:149, _20170515_180126.JPG)

Hey Smiley, you said you were already working on elementaries and shit right? Well, when you first started doing the elemental meditations, did you actually feel the heat physically, and feel the lightness of air? Or was it just an astral thing?

(5. No identifying posts / namefag drama)

 No.98048

>>98046

Tldr. Write something interesting if you want anyone to give a fuck.


 No.98058

>>98048

*proceeds to write nothing interesting*


 No.98059

>>98058

Fuck off back to ruining everything good you see parasite faggot. Nobody likes the CIA.


 No.98060

>>98059

Fuck off back to ruining everything good you parasite faggot. Nobody likes the CIA.


 No.98062

>>98033

people who don't practice or know anything about the subject, then they come on and pretend like that epic wyn faggot, or generally ruin discussion because they think its fake and want to mock /fringe/ users by pretending in a mocking way.


 No.98065

File: 1daaf58e17d3e5e⋯.jpg (93.28 KB, 500x398, 250:199, IMG_0990.JPG)

>>98033

People who claimed have completed IIH and cannot even light a cotton swab dipped in lighter fluid (with the elements) as described in step 5.

People who claim to be adepts. Let's be serious it would surprise everyone sane if there was a single initiate here at most.

LARPers generally fall into two categories. Attention seekers and the genuine mentally ill (caused by a lack of elemental balance and too little electromagnetic fluid), though these categories can overlap (see: smileberg)


 No.98068

I'm reading Initiation into Hermetics and there's a lot of good stuff in here. Should I fully read the book before I begin the practices in the early chapters?

For breathing exercises

>Sit down comfortably, relax the whole body, and breathe in through the nose. Imagine that with the inhaled air, health, tranquility, peace, success, or everything you are aiming at, will pass into your body through the lungs and the blood. The eidetic image of your idea must be so intense that the air you are inspiring is so strongly impregnated with your desire that it has already become reality. You should not allow the slightest doubt about this fact.

>In any case, you should not proceed to the imagination of another different desire before the first chosen one has been completely accomplished.

So it suggests to focus on one thing until it's achieved, what sort of things could I achieve with this exercise?

>It is therefore desirable not to form egotistic wishes to begin with, but to confine them to the above-mentioned ones such as tranquility, health, peace and success.

Say I wish to become a tall muscular man, is that egotistical and therefore unacheivable? Sorry the stupid questions, this all new to me. I fucked up the formatting the first time copying and pasting from the book. Thanks.


 No.98070

Will I learn anything in IIH that will allow me to remove a parasite? If so I would like to take less time between steps then stated, is that too risky? I just want to get rid of it as soon as possible, but would also like to learn a lot from the book.


 No.98071

>>98068

>Should I fully read the book before I begin the practices in the early chapters?

>I want to be a tall muscular man

Excersize will give you muscles. Becoming taller post puberty requires transformation of the skeletal system and nerves. I suppose it's possible through hermetic means but physical alchemy would be more practical. As to whether it is egotistical to have such a desire it depends on the motivation.

But no, Barton meant that exercise as one to achieve purely mental transformation which is most important in the beginning.

>>98070

Step one is all you need to remove an malignant thoughtform. If the major flaws in your character are addressed you will be immune to such influence.


 No.98072

>>98071

Would you recommend rawn clark's companion or something else?


 No.98076

>>98072

Definitely Rawn Clark


 No.98077

>>98065

I was actually able to raise my body temperature a few degrees while practicing the fire meditation in IIH, maybe someday nigga!


 No.98078

>>98072

Rain Clarke is pretty good, just make sure you focus on understanding IIH itself and don't completely rely on the companion, it's useful but I don't feel he is correct in some minor areas. For instance I believe a large amount of IIH was second hand knowledge being transmitted by Bardon by his instructor.


 No.98079

>>98065

>completed IIH

Yeah, not fuckin likely, Rawn Clarke says that to adequately succeed in all the steps can take 10-30 years for a first incarnate


 No.98080

>>98077

You can't create a spark or flame with the fire element. Fire and air need to be used conjunctively. Read step 5 again.

If you read Bardon's words on Secrecy you should know not to profess any ability in the hermetic art


 No.98081

File: 1508b7f83754451⋯.jpeg (174.48 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 383AEEF8-0A6F-4390-8D0B-E….jpeg)

>>98079

For the average person I doubt they can gain the ability to fly without a good century or two of hard work.


 No.98082

File: a62fe0a0bc63701⋯.jpg (57.8 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, IMG_0989.JPG)

What if I told you the Earth is hollow and the poles are large holes? That within the Earth there is an Inner Sun (the "black" sun) and as much land and water as on the outer surface? That there's are mountains the size of those on Mars, and that mankind began in this place?

Do you ever wonder why planes cannot fly near the North Pole, why Antarctica is impossible to enter without government clearance? Why the South and North Poles really have such thin atmosphere? Why the "flat earth" conspiracy has been so readily pushed by government agencies? Do you feel in charge?


 No.98083

>>98071

> As to whether it is egotistical to have such a desire it depends on the motivation

I lack self confidence because of my height, it really gets to me I don't want it for selfish purposes. But should I finish reading the book before starting the exercises?

>but physical alchemy would be more practical

Where can I find info on this? Startpaging yeilds zero results. Thanks a lot.


 No.98084

>>98083

You don't have a height problem you have a self confidence problem. It would be easier by far to do step one of IIH than increase your stature.


 No.98085

>>98084

Well I don't know, I walk down the street and I see people just towering over me and I feel like a child, I know teenagers that are taller than me it's a real confidence killer. I have small hands and a small package, I don't have any adult traits. I don't feel I can attract a potential mate and a wife. Even typing this out was hard, I'm really not being melodramatic.


 No.98086

>>98080

I haven't skipped ahead but is there anything on knowing your past incarnations?


 No.98088

File: 52897f77a0a878d⋯.gif (4.16 MB, 480x270, 16:9, a840190192e95c37f8ddd43680….gif)

>>98065

>being able to create tricks like lighting things on fire is required to finish the IIH

You should try reading it again when you get some reading comprehension skills tbh.


 No.98091

>>98085

Some people who are short and ugly get laid constantly while others who lift all the time were never able to fix their self esteem issues. What you need isn't necessarily a better body. It will be far easier to use Hermetic mental alchemy to raise your self confidence, sex magic to make girls fall for you, and /r/theredpill to learn the proper mundane moves.


 No.98092

>>98065

>electromagnetic fluid

Care to elaborate my fellow bullshit occultist?


 No.98093

>>98080

>spoiler

Does anyone care to paste these here?


 No.98094

>>98092

It's just a system of visualization used to represent and understand things beyond our realm of knowledge that is less arbitrary and more grounded in truth than most systems out there. Don't overthink it, young padawan.


 No.98095

Is there a way for me to find out whether or not I've had past lives? I'm not especially interested in what those lives were so much as whether I've actually had any.


 No.98096

>>98095

What race are you?


 No.98097

>>98095

If you've had fast success with magic, that might be a good indicator.


 No.98098

Is there a way for me to actually convert to Zoroastrianism? I know they generally don't accept converts but I also know an offshoot called the cult of Mithra made it to the land I am descended from (Britain)


 No.98100

>>98098

But why would you want to?


 No.98102

>>98100

Well there's something about it that's very attractive to me, as there should be, and I don't know how to describe it.

Another simpler reason is that it's one of only two Aryan religions that still exists to this day and hasn't been destroyed by Abrahamics or subhumans. Hinduism is another but I fear it had been tainted too much by sudras and retarded white cultural Marxist degenerate scum.


 No.98104

File: 1050a092c679873⋯.jpg (55.35 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 3585049_stock-vector-caged….jpg)

>>98091

> sex magic to make girls fall for you

I'm interested in this. I am not a very handsome man so when I approach women they probably just get scared rather than interested. Is there a way to ease the tension , maybe like sending a thoughtform or even creating a servitor just for this? Would it even work? I just want an opportunity to talk to girls but I suppose most of them are afraid of random strangers in the street, and that is what I would want to address magically.


 No.98107

>>98080

>Well teeeechnically, its fire aaand air

>Oh and Bardon said don't blatantly brag about your shit like an ass, so stop talking, you're not allowed to say anything

Jesus Christ you're pretentious


 No.98108

>>98092

I think he's​ misspelled vital fluid


 No.98109

>>98095

How smart are you? Got any real natural talents? Ever felt a calling to a certain thing? Ever met people that you just get? Good news 4u, its much more likely that you've had past incarnations rather than this being your first!


 No.98110

>>98102

Imagine cultivating lust for an entire month just to get her to like you, now try to maintain that day after day. Trust me, I tried, absolutely terrible idea


 No.98112

>>98081

kek, yeah probably


 No.98113

>>98104

I use Hermetic mental alchemy to get animals to like/approach me, I'm sure it can't be all too different with people. Mainly the Principle of Polarity and lots of controlled, directed, and strong emotion. Also I read a few years ago on TheFoolSpeaks a story from this guy who was on a bus and visualized sexual energy connecting from his groin to a random girl's, and after about 10 minutes or something she was blushing heavily and making glances at him. He didn't do anything after that which makes it sound kind of pointless, but he was pretty proud of himself and it only took belief and visualization. And I haven't read them, but Mantak Chia has books in the Occult Seed folder (neophyte>supplemental) about cultivating sexual energy or something like that.


 No.98114

>>98110

What?


 No.98115

Which one of you fringewizards is revealing your power level in the Little Witch Academia thread?

>>>/a/680737

>>>/a/680774

>>>/a/680789

>>>/a/680875

>>>/a/681107

>>>/a/681284

And what the fuck are you on about with the hidden religion and sex topics?


 No.98116

>>98113

>This man is right, b u t

Animals are alot more simple minded than women, well, not really, but the point is it takes alot more energy and effort to cull a human, even a female

>>98114

What I'm saying is above, you waste an entire month to swoon her, get attached, and then waste every second of your life slaving away to keep an artificial spark, and unless your atleast a high initiate, the workload will eventually grow faster than you can keep up. So in the end, all ya got is, a broken heart, 2 less months of life, and still no pussy


 No.98117

File: 70811f9762bb6d3⋯.png (82.28 KB, 499x334, 499:334, image.png)

>>98116

Well I'm currently traveling around Spain so I don't want long-term relationships, I just want to enjoy some casual sex once or twice a month. From watching videos on youtube I believe that if you say the right things and escalate the right way —and the girl is willing of course— you can get a kiss on the first day and even get laid the same day . Not only pua/rsd but I also had female friends and all of them had their "one-night stand" stories so it doesn't seem too farfetched. I just want to attract women superficially and have a good time rubbing my naked body against someone else's. I love being touched and now that i learned how good it feels I just want to do it all the time.

I've thought sometimes about working instead on blocking this feeling and trying to "exorcise" these urges but they move me so powerfully that I am afraid it would just end up causing internal damage such as hidden frustrations or cancer. I don't want to have to hide my energy, I want to channel it and use it. People say all you have to do is practice, but getting a haircut and brushing your teeth can help. So maybe I can increase my numbers a bit by directing energy towards people, and that is what I was trying to learn how to do. I think I should get serious with IIH and at least try to complete that book. Seriously if I can't even do the most basic exercises how do I expect to learn the mysteries of god?

That's another reason why I want a companion, because I feel charged with a lot of yang energy and I am very bad at creating motion, I am good with things once they are up and running but I'm not the kind of guy who starts things up . I think I just need someone to balance this , and I want to be good with women so when the day comes and I meet the lady that understands my energy I will be able to approach her confidently and finish the deal.

tl;dr >tfw no wizard gf


 No.98118

File: 5bea9a1d2d3bd31⋯.jpg (72.37 KB, 418x305, 418:305, tumblr_inline_na2mu4C3iH1r….jpg)

>>98115

VIRTUE OF SILENCE ASSHOLES

VIRTUE OF SILENCE


 No.98119

>>98117

Oh, well in that case you'll be fine.

Take a holistic approach,

Yin

- Resonate Chad frequencies

- Cultivate sexual tension

- inject lustful feelings in their mind

- make a sex sigil, charge it, and draw it on your body

Yang

- practice pua techniques

- get a stylish haircut

- deodorant

- wear nice clothes

- mew for atleast 6 months

- masseter work

- be alpha with good frame (be consistent, and always calm)


 No.98120

>>98117

Also, some practical advice,

-women are reactionary, emotional creatures. Be "hot enough", and make them laugh. Always maintain frame, always take the lead. Do not disrespect her, but treat her as a subordinate.


 No.98121

File: a311085b6689681⋯.jpg (120.77 KB, 494x767, 38:59, 4ZlfOcgVln37tMT7TNWaM2mMH0….jpg)

Just wanna post this for that guy that was having a spergfest about tattoos in the last question thread.

http://www.larskrutak.com/shamanic-skin-the-art-of-magical-tattoos/


 No.98124

>>98121

Doesn't change the fact that they are a handicap for faggots with big egos. Also funny how I'm supposedly an autistic bitch, but you can't let something from years ago go. I'm obviously in your head you juden fuck.

Get lost. I fucking run this world.


 No.98125

>>98124

Kikes lose in the end. Deal with it Kucksner.


 No.98126

>>98125

Kikesner*


 No.98127

>>98124

>Doesn't change the fact that they are a handicap for faggots with big egos

I'm not even the person you're talking to but this clearly indicates you didn't even read the freaking article.

If you don't like tattoos then fine, but don't come larping and saying that there is anything spiritually wrong with tattoes because that is probably not true at all.


 No.98128

>>98126

Awwww lil baby jew is triggered? Awwww! Having a lil trouble evolving? One day you will learn juden. Go pay your price. Shoo! Get lost insect!


 No.98129

>>98127

Why would I read words written by a jew loving parasite? Go jerk off your ego some more loser. I fucking run this world hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Justice is the best ;)


 No.98130

Jesuits are fucking shit. They murdered my friend cause he liked cock. I'm gonna have to eliminate those barbaric faggots too.


 No.98131

Level 1 jew casts insult poster.

It isn't effective.

Level 1 jew resorts to stabbing opponent in their sleep.

Jew wins! But everyone thinks he's a fucking bitch.


 No.98132

I just explored the whole universe last night. All I gotta say to you Abrahamic faggots is run. Run as fast as you fucking can, because that's the only way your soul is gonna live any longer. There's a new sheriff in babylon, and he's fucking pissed.


 No.98134

>>98132

Let me elaborate on "explored the whole universe last night". I was scanning time and space to study my enemies - aka everyone who thinks they are more equal than everyone else. Things are coming along great in my quest. I can't say when I won't feel the pain of 7 million fucking daggers stabbing me 24 hours a day, but I do know that I will stop all the innocent people from suffering at the hands of barbaric kike demons. Christians have shown me that they can meet me half way on some shit, so that's a work in progress, and I actually pity Muslims, but Jews have all the information I have yet they still choose to play life like it's Grand Theft Auto.

Newsflash - WE ARE ALL THE SAME FUCKING PERSON. WHEN ETERNITY ENDS, YOU WILL HAVE TO BE SOMEONE ELSE, AND IT COULD BE SOMEONE WHO YOU FUCKED OVER IN THIS LIFE. KARMA IS REAL BECAUSE IF YOU SHOOT SOMEONE IN THE FACE YOU ARE GOING TO EVENTUALLY BE THAT PERSON. WHEN YOU MURDER YOU ARE MURDERING YOURSELF. THIS ISNT FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE. ETERNITY IS A LONG FUCKING TIME, BUT IT WILL END, IVE SPENT THOUSANDS OF HOURS MEDITATING ON THAT AND IT WILL EVENTUALLY END AND YOU WILL GET BORED AND START AS A WORM AGAIN. INFINITY END MOTHER FUCKER. THERE ARE A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES, BUT THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY IN THIS BLACK BOX WE LIVE IN. GET IT FUCKING GETHER SO WE CAN STAY ON THE PARADISE SIDE OF THE BOX.


 No.98136

>>98134

We Greys do not officially support this message. This sounds suspiciously Jewish.


 No.98137

>>98124

>years ago

lmao dude you posted that shit like a week ago in the previous question thread like i said

are you ok?


 No.98138

>>98009

>"Our unconscious, on the other hand, hides living water, spirit that has become nature, and that is why it is disturbed.

>Heaven has become for us the cosmic space of the physicists, and the divine empyrean a fair memory of things that once were.

>But ‘the heart glows,’ and a secret unrest gnaws at the roots of our being.

>Dealing with the Unconscious has become a question of life for us.”

This is what I've felt every day, for almost my entire life now. I think this dream was my means of escaping the pain, but humbly subjecting myself to proper learning, to "the teacher", to my Higher Self.

It's withered my spirit- I've lost my friends, my positions and faux authority, broken my illusory futures, and brought my mind to near insanity.

I think this is Nigredo in Alchemy, or Dark Night of the Soul. And I'm finally starting to see the light, if I at last just consciously give in to it. It's heart-breaking, but I'm beginning to feel a peace with myself and my life. I guess I'm just posting this to be heard. It feels right.


 No.98139

File: a7e08c3ff0fe83f⋯.jpg (479.28 KB, 839x900, 839:900, cool_wizard_by_whitsteen-d….jpg)

>>98138

Keep goin' man! Remember all those guys who tell you, "occultism is a demonic trap, the best way to grow is to just go through life."? well oh yeah faggot? I'm already a hermetic initiate astral traveler with an IQ of 140 and no material desires and your just some fuckin normalfag!


 No.98141

>>98139

dam straight


 No.98142

>>98139

Thanks!


 No.98147

File: 1508b7f83754451⋯.jpeg (174.48 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 383AEEF8-0A6F-4390-8D0B-E….jpeg)

File: 35d0143beb83f6e⋯.jpg (2.54 MB, 3024x4032, 3:4, IMG_0992.JPG)

The internet really is a strange thing. Using the internet you can see everything, the encompassing scope of the human condition. And once you've very well seen everything, every fetish, every sexual act, every cruelty imaginable. The internet contains the abyss, and when you stare into it hard enough it stares back at you. And finally you realize there is no struggle, no oppression, no evil, no tyranny, no enemy. All in heaven and earth simply is as it will be.


 No.98150

File: aefadd4b7cbb2f0⋯.png (139.89 KB, 710x549, 710:549, 19bc28995157ba10d322eddd87….png)

>>98147

Indeed.


 No.98151

Why is lust considered a "good" trait in IIH?


 No.98152

Are you people good at interpreting dreams for normies? I just dreamt about desperately trying to find something in space, and ended up landing on what appeared to be Proteus (moon of Neptune). I seemed to be in a hurry.

I never really took montalk and the like seriously, because 99% of the time my dreams are just boring normal daily life kinda ones, with nothing to interpret. I've got to admit that this was new. What could it mean?


 No.98153

>>98152

There is nothing about Montalk to take seriously.


 No.98154

>>98153

Why do you think so?


 No.98157

>>98154

It's all disinformation smdh


 No.98159

>>98152

landing on what appeared to be Proteus (moon of Neptune). I seemed to be in a hurry.

You were rushing to a moon. This is a reference to the Russian vs US space race. Translating this into wakeful thought means you desire someone to moon you, so that you may quickly thrust your rocket in their anus.


 No.98161

>>98159

U GAY NIGGA


 No.98163

Thanks for the laughs, guys. Thought I'd get an entertaining response.


 No.98173

>>97969

Yo, thanks for the reply.

I've been listening to some of his lectures, and the way he talks.. It's like he completely understands how to approach people and push them into the right direction.

I'll read that book, The Secret Teachings, after I'm done with my current book.


 No.98186

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>98138

>I think this is Nigredo in Alchemy, or Dark Night of the Soul. And I'm finally starting to see the light

whatever you say friend

>>98139

>I'm a delusional twat with an over active imagination


 No.98191

>>98147

Time to unzip


 No.98192

>>98157

Doesn't seem like disinfo to me, perhaps you could be more specific.


 No.98196

>>98192

Nothing seems like disinfo if you believe everything.


 No.98208

>>98192

The stuff he says about metaphysics is pretty good. The rest of his site can be discarded. Focusing on conspiracies and ETs/UFOs has no practical effect in your life besides potentially making you paranoid.

Don't listen to me, or anyone else, though. Your gut feeling/intuition is the best guide.


 No.98220

>>98186

And you're just a delusional twat


 No.98221

Does anyone have pdf of books in this posts redirect?

>>98003


 No.98229

>>98116

I thought you were replying to my post about Zoroastrianism because you did.


 No.98232

>>98220

>And you're just a delusional twat

duh, just because I have an over active imagination and read 2DEEP4U self help books doesn't make me better than average joe. I've accepted that most of the stuff he chases wont make me much happier.


 No.98237

File: 17548343b775867⋯.jpg (39.18 KB, 577x435, 577:435, IMG_1001.JPG)

>>98117

>I want sex but no relationship

Throughout all human history there has been but a single solution to this problem.


 No.98259


 No.98260

>>98259

Seems expensive. What do I do if I live off the grid and don't have electricity. Humans are so conveinent. Water them daily and feed at least every few days and they create lubricants of different types and have multiple holes and various surfaces such as hands and feet.

A sex bot is like a frozen dinner. A good sex slave is a four course meal. Can't improve on God's fine creation.


 No.98268

>>98260

>why pretend to be rich when you can pretend to be edgy

Alrighty Buffalo Bill, it's time for you to reread your philosophy books and start achieving wisdom through the Virtues again.


 No.98284

File: 1fdb4277f1b888f⋯.jpg (39.27 KB, 327x499, 327:499, 51MS5sp bnL._SX325_BO1,204….jpg)


 No.98289

How do I make sure my muscles dont deteriorate while I'm fasting?


 No.98303

>>98289

Muscle loss from fasting is a meme.


 No.98309

>>98289

>How do I make sure my muscles dont deteriorate while I'm fasting?

try eating food


 No.98314

Does anyone know anything about military and etheric implants please?

I've just awoken from a 'dream' (much more 'real' than a lucid dream, I may have been astral projecting).

I'm happy to detail the dream if anyone wants, but I want to know specifically about revoking and protecting against etheric implants otherwise I'm fucked.


 No.98317

File: fb92c9eb8d22872⋯.pdf (980.79 KB, Practical_Psychic_Self_Def….pdf)

>>98314

Read Practical Psychic Self Defense , by Robert Bruce


 No.98318

>>98317

I've been looking at buying this book for a while; thanks mate.


 No.98321

>>98318

Why buy it?


 No.98324

>>98321

I'll download it, but I like to have a physical copy just in case.


 No.98326

>>98324

When you are feeling down, I would try the mantra "Jewmurder". If that doesn't work I would try "Jew Murder Rape." If you still aren't getting the results you want, you can try the dangerous but guaranteed to work mantra "Jew Murder Rape Kill Death".


 No.98327

>>98314

Funny you say that cause I woke up in the middle of the night and had to shit so bad I felt like I was getting my ass raped. While I was shitting I started screaming TRUCE! TRUCE! JUST LEAVE ME ALONE KIKES! Because I thought about the fact that kikes love to rape people and immediately felt the pain of every helpless person being raped by a demonic kikes. I then finished my shit and went to bed, and immediately violated the "truce" and returned to cursing all the kikes on the planet.


 No.98333

>>98317

Is that book saying things like SPECIAL_IMAGE-page0012_0000.svg-REPLACE_ME for anyone else or just me?


 No.98334

>>98333

I suppose that's a problem with the pdf , probably someone converted it from another format to PDF and some of those pictures were broken


 No.98335

>>98334

The one in the /fringe/ library page is like that too. What can be done about it?


 No.98338

if one where to attempt to regrow their hair using magic what would be the best system in order to do so?

I was thinking maybe energy work but im still a noob. Thanks for the help


 No.98339

>>98338

Take 2lbs of american ginseng, panax works also, but must be fresh. Shave with a grater and beat into a paste, fill into a round bottom retort 1/4. Attach retort to distillation condensor and receiving flask. Heat at 200F or so until the distillation flask is dry. Change receiving flask and save the collected water. Burn distillation flask at at least 400C until no smoke comes off, put the collected product from this dry distillation seperate from the water. Leach the ashes from the distillation flask and boil water away until you get white salts. Take the half the product of the second distillation and incubate it at 37C with half a pound of ginseng juice pressed from fresh roots, remove the oily skin, add to the white salts. Add the remaining product of the second distillation to an equal volume of the first distillation. Add this to the salts until it reaches a honey consistency.

Rub it on for hair growth

>b-but I want results with no work

Bullshit occultiste


 No.98340

Is it possible that I could telepathically activate GABA and glycine(the drugs activated while you're asleep to keep you still while you dream) in somebody's brain to paralyze them?

I'm sure it'd be possible to do it via hypnosis but can it be done on somebody unsuspecting?


 No.98341

File: d0f3f83fa8d43fc⋯.jpg (63.28 KB, 576x720, 4:5, IMG_0979.JPG)

>>98340

Why so you can fuck them? Nice try paedophile!


 No.98342

>>98339

Solve et Coagula. It is nice to see someone else involved in Spagyrics as well.


 No.98344

>>98339

Thank you for your post, your method requires alot of equipment i cant afford at the moment but ill look into this when i can.

However i must admit i was looking for a more spirtual/ esoteric way to work on my problem, i dont mind if it takes a lot of effort on my end i just want some suggestions.


 No.98345

What is experiencing kundalini rising like?


 No.98346

>>98345

Madness and exstacy until the "I am" state settles after incorporating and replacing the comparatively fractured and broken lower self that was previously the operating system.

As soon as your spirits energy pathways aligns with your egos you are become divine in the flesh.

It was practice to first align and refine the meridians of the ego to awaken the spirit but most of us do the opposite, we force a kundalini awakening with a broken psyche as a backup and if you, your true you, can take a step back, figuratively, in your mind to inspect the contents of your actions, and if it were to be struck with disgust, you might end up with a split personality disorder where you talk to yourself as a means of processing thought patterns to come to turns with what you truly feel about this or that.

But fuck it. It's worth it in the end, even if the other you you're talking to hates you.

In the end they just meld together and the I am state never fades because it takes so little effort to keep it up as there are no conflicting thoughts between the lower and higher self, they think in unison but operate on different levels.

Never stop if you begin or you will be stuck in madness. If you blow a fuse, fix it, on spot.


 No.98347

Is it normal to get sleepy while reading about /fringe/ subjects


 No.98348

>>98344

TBH it's easier to just get money using your affirmations and whatever and use physical methods than to use higher to affect lower.

I mean for example you can as Bardon says in IIH use the factual elements to create water charged with the elements. But you could also just fractionally distill rainwater. The end result will be more or less similar, though I suppose with enough time and concentration the spiritual method would produce more pure eldmentary forces, it's just less practical. 99% of the time physical action with a spiritual foundation is the most effective route. There's a reason even the sages and great philosophers who could move things with their mind built things stone by stone. It's just more effecient.

>>98342

Tbh I'm convinced a true universal stone can be created from the plant kingdom. Just need to seperate the starting material into the four elements, seperate each element into four elements (air of earth, water of earth, fire of earth, earth of earth-primum earth) but the problem is to attempt this I need hundreds of pounds of fresh plant material and it needs to be a "universal" plant which is balanced philosophically, that and you have to solve et coagula to the point it'll probably take thousands of hours to actually get it to birth.

The trick to creating a stone is the factual impregnation of the elements imo. The use of factual elements as in IIH is the same as the secret fire of the alchemists, without it nothing is alchemy, with it anything can be alchemy


 No.98349

File: a40ae0fa3770c94⋯.jpg (103.82 KB, 450x704, 225:352, Sealsolomon.jpg)

What does this symbol represent?


 No.98352

>>98349

Nigger it's clearly labeled in latin. Read nigger!


 No.98354

"Magic is usually mistaken for sorcery or witchcraft; I therefore want to explain briefly the difference between magic and sorcery. The true magician always adheres to the universal laws, he knows about their causes and effects and deliberately uses these powers, whereas a sorcerer uses powers the origin of which he does not know, although he is fully aware of the consequences caused by his using these powers; but he has no idea about their actual con- nections, because he has no knowledge of the universal laws. He might know one or two laws or have a partial knowledge of

them, but he does not see the true connections between the operating, developing and functioning of these universal laws, as he has not reached the maturity necessary.

The true magician, on the other hand, unwilling to be graded as a sorcerer, will never do anything without having full knowledge about what he is doing. A sorcerer, too, may use this or that out of his knowledge of magic with good or bad intentions, no matter whether he uses positive or negative powers. But he has no right to call himself a magician.

A charlatan is a person trying to deceive other people. He is not a sorcerer, nor is he a magician. He actually is, to use common terms, a swindler. Charlatans like to boast about high magical faculties, which, in truth, they do not possess, and try to sur- round themselves with a veil of mystical secrecy in order to hide their ignorance."

This entire chapter is very relevant to current year /fringe/


 No.98355

>>98352

No speaky latin. I'm assuming it's along the lines of "as above, so below". I mean the image itself not the text.


 No.98356

>>98355

Tbh if you can't understand what it means by looking at it pearls before swine.


 No.98357

>>98356

I can't. I'm a pleb as far as stuff like this is concerned, it just caught my eye and I figured somebody here could explain what it means for me.


 No.98368

>>98357

Duality, b&w

Hexagram, duality, male/female


 No.98371

As a musician struggling with writers block, what would be an effective meditation to overcome this? Is there an energy I should be trying to channel/an entity to get in contact with? no black magic or blood pacts with moloch plz


 No.98376

>>98348

very insightful, thank you


 No.98384

>>98348

>it needs to be a "universal" plant

Any plant is capable of producing a stone. Some plants depending upon their energetic development along the Plant Tree are going to be a bit more of a hassle to work with in dissolution stage. However, acquiring the menstrum of the Circulata Minor speeds up process immensely. I definitely feel your pain in having to acquire many pounds of herbs. I think I became Mountain Herbs top buyer for awhile before moving out into the country.


 No.98388

What is the definite method to stop masturbating? I can't get my hands off my dick for more than two or three days. I don't want to abhor sexuality, I just want to stop practicing on my own and start connecting with other people ( read: I want to meet fuck women ) and I feel like such a loser jerking off to titties online. Besides it is said that you should save your sexual energy and here I am wasting it away just for a few minutes of the greatest pleasure I experience on my daily life. Any hardcore methods to stop shaking hands with mister president so often?


 No.98389

>>98388

Awareness. Be aware of your thoughts and urges. When you're aware of your urge early, you can recognize it as an urge before it grows stronger. Don't feed your urge in ANY way.

If you masturbate as a reaction to loneliness, pain, or anything then maybe you should consider replacing masturbation with another habit like taking walks or some shit dude.


 No.98390

>>98389

>Don't feed your urge in ANY way.

As in, don't look at porn, don't rub your dick, don't feed into sexual thoughts, don't do anything that'll feed the urge.


 No.98391

>>98368

>duality

Thanks anon, that's what I thought myself but I wasn't sure. What does the Hexagram have to do with duality? Is it just because it can be used to make a perfect mirror image?


 No.98394

>>97530

After a cursory look through the thread, the only thing I've learned about "starting" in the occult is that there is a proper order to things if I don't want to fuck myself up. On that note, would anybody be willing to tell me a good place to start for a complete newbie?


 No.98396

>>98347

No, youre got demons fucking with you, ons iously sent them.

And, or, your ego disagrees so strongly with the subject it causes dissonance and in turn stress which is mentally tur ing. Find your own unshakeable truth, cement your faith. Let go. All preconcieved notions, just drop it to the floor and find a new basin to stand on.


 No.98397

>>98396

Consciously deny them, which will tire you even more until you figure out how to make them fuck off.


 No.98400

>>98394

SS+GOMAD

And download the Occult Seed folder in the library and work through the neophyte books, starting with the Kybalion.


 No.98401

>>98394

IIH. Actually read it and don't read ahead unless you like wasting time.

>>98391

>listing to a bullshit occultist

Solomon's Seal holds all fundamental ideas of gnocticism, that's thd most I'll spoonfeed you.

>>98384

Any plant is capable of producing a stone yes. But I'm not trying to make a plant stone. I am attempting to create The great work by creating concentrated elements by breaking down planf matter. My initial tests show me this should be possible


 No.98403

>>98401

>I am attempting to create The great work

I understand, but as every plant can be made into a plant stone, so too can every plant be made into the true stone. What I was getting at was that some plants work better than others as they are more highly evolved and thus higher up on the Plant Tree. This makes the steps a lot less. If you choose a plant that is more primitive and less evolved, being on the lower end of the Plant Tree closer to the Mineral Tree, you will have more work ahead of you.

>creating concentrated elements by breaking down plant matter.

This is why I mentioned the Circulata Minor. It is the Universal Menstrum of the Plant Realm. Find the right plant that is highly evolved already, create a CM from it and I think the rest should reveal itself.


 No.98404

>>98371

Lack of circulation. Unblock in a literal way and psychological way. Best to start from the foundation up, so go with performing some sort of exercise at least 10x a day every day (for 1 - 5 minutes each), cleaning and organizing your entire space, pay a debt to persons, society, ancestors, etc. (debt as obligatory or by good graciousness), clear up some questions you have in the back of your mind, and anything else along those lines.

I have a question, one should work from the material up right? Well, reading about Shamans, they seem to work in a whole other way.

What are the paths available? What is the spiritual alchemical path? Is it material, plant, animal, man? What is that? Just a description works for me, I have the intuition and experience of a shaman. Just by intuitive motion, projection and intention I managed to long distance vibrate the chest of some woman who was asking for good vibes (heart chakra/immune system positive response), and she did indeed feel better.

More importantly, what are the repercussions of the paths? The costs for one self and others? The gains?

Thanks


 No.98407

File: 37e676a3e52b1d4⋯.jpg (17.2 KB, 300x300, 1:1, zen.jpg)

I recently met a classically trained Zazen Buddhist monk who agreed to teach me to meditate. I came from /b/ to ask a few things.

1. Is zazen worth the time or is it bullshit?

2. Any tips if I choose to pursue it?

3. If I'm a complete noob, where else can I look?

4. My life is a fucking mess atm. Is meditation a good start?

5. Are psychedelics or weed recommended? I have experience with both.


 No.98409

Someone said in this post: https://8ch.net/fringe/res/86865.html#86870

That the Kybalion circulating around online is somehow incorrect from the version he has posted.

Is this just some bullshit this guy is saying, or is there some truth to it?


 No.98414

>>98407

After a brief summary on Wikipedia, it doesn't seem to be bullshit (to me anyways). It's not really occult or magic if that's what you're looking for, but any non-Western approach to Zen Buddhism will probably help you get your life together. I believe it matters more whether you or your teacher approach it in a bullshit way. I can't give you any tips specific to its practice, but it always helps to go to sleep early, wake up early, eat healthy food, lift weights, read the Tao Te Ching, read some teachings of Buddha, think real hard about them, relax, go outside more, start a garden, be nicer to the people around you, etc. As a noob, it kind of depends on your goals. If you really just want to have peace, Taoism and Zen Buddhism are a great way to go. If you want to do magic, start with the Kybalion. The library (8ch.net/fringe/library.html) has a download called "The Occult Seed." I personally prefer that one.

>is meditation a good start

Yes, definitely.

>drugs

You'll get mixed answers to that here. Personally I think you're better off without them, especially if you want to fix your life (this requires sobriety, and minimal external influence to pull you from your will). Look at the success of people who use drugs regularly and people who don't.

>>98409

I have heard that the copy in circulation is shorter than what some of the more experienced folk remember. I'm not sure how much it matters though, because I still attain significant results from the version I have. And the Principle of Gender is legit so if you don't understand it then don't just assume the "real" Kybalion doesn't include it.


 No.98415

>>97557

Atkinson's works are bullshit-free though. It's all good and valid information. He just takes 100 pages to say what could be said in 10 pages.


 No.98416

>>97590

You forgot job and socialization and such.


 No.98417

>>98409

He's probably talking about the sumum guy who inserted that stuff about quantum physics into the Kybalion


 No.98418

>>97622

Bumping again

How do I program servitors to memorize what I read, see or hear in an instant?


 No.98427

File: fee5838b4c2c727⋯.jpg (77.46 KB, 600x657, 200:219, IMG_0978.JPG)

>>98418

You tried fucking doing it instead of bitching bitch NIGGA


 No.98434

What are some good internet content creators who expose esoteric symbolism in pop culture?

I really like the format of The Open Scroll but the guy is obsessed with buttsex and hardly talks about anything else.


 No.98440

>>98434

The Binding of Isaac has basic occult themes. Occult Crimes Taskforce is graphic novels or something where some police officers have to patrol a NYC district where everybody and their cousin is a magician. And there's an RPGMaker game called Nyan Adventures that has a lot of occult influence, but you won't enjoy it unless you have vorarephilia.


 No.98442

File: 476db1c777032c0⋯.jpg (39.3 KB, 600x200, 3:1, https_proxy.jpg)

Does anyone attend or at least know of IRL groups for astral projection,esoteric discussion so on?

I'm no talking about masonic orders, rather yoga workshops or such new age-style courses.

Im thinking I should stop being an armchair ghostbuster and start discussing topics I like with real people, learn from certified teachers,so o


 No.98444

>>98442

I have a couple friends interested in the occult, but their interest is pretty superficial. And I know a girl who has latent psychic abilities, but she's more concerned about smashing the patriarchy. You could try starting a club for aliens and ESPers and see who shows up.


 No.98448

I Had a very interesting dream. I was in a forest with colors deeper than any on earth. I was the only person there. I could move like air and jump great distances by simply willing to stay in the air longer. Then I saw the single edge of the forest which was a square tombstone at least 500 by 500 feet with simply "RIP" written in the center largely. I jumped easily to the top of it and found myself in a village which merged into a city. Every color was colorless and gray and the people streamed by in multitudes without number. The way I had come was gone and there was no way back into that forest.


 No.98449

>>98442

>certified

Bullshit occultist

You can tell if someone's a true magician since they can turn silver into gold and walk on water, the fuck does a certification prove kid?


 No.98450

I accidentally oxidized a quarter, my thumb left the metal brighter where it was pressed and the edge of the quarter oxidized red. Happened in a couple seconds or less.

What the fuck did I do? I was getting stressed and highly self conscious in a negative way while with my parents, all the while providing 0 resistance (thus conducting it) and the quarter thing happened.

This would be electric discharge yes?

Then I am great at conductivity, as was my experience while with my parents…. but as well there exists black muck surrounding my body inches thick that acts as negative resistance, keeping such electricity from arcing to others and others to me.

>>98449

There are those who are between extremes and thus not extremely impressive enough to have their skills speak for themselves.


 No.98460

>>98450

A sorcerer is not a magician tbh


 No.98470

File: 9fd39de81674224⋯.jpg (10.04 KB, 184x275, 184:275, download (3).jpg)

Since priests stay celibate for decades; do they unlock all chakras and kundalini even if they dont believe in that?

If nofap Really makes you attractive; should women be chasing priests instead of considering them dull?


 No.98473

>>98460

How do you differ them?


 No.98475

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Does committing suicide metaphysically fuck you up?

I've been seeking the answer to this question since a very young age and have never received a good answer.

btw I am hypothetically looking for an exit right now

what is the best method to off yourself


 No.98476

>>98475

DONT DO IT


 No.98480

>>98470

problem is most christian priests repress their sexual energy rather than utilizing/transmuting it. repression is just as bad as indulging in it.


 No.98483

>>98475

The ancient Mysteries considered suicide to be terribly consequential. These were the most ilumined of the past, so you should trust them.

>>98470

>considering them dull

Catholic women have a saying that all the best men end up in seminary. Priests are often pretty attractive and it doesn't go unnoticed.

>>98473

See >>98354 but I'm not sure why gondolanon was talking about magicians/sorcerors in relation to the post he quoted.


 No.98484

what is a generally decent book about astrology?

I've wanted to get into it to check all the important parts about my chart, specially since Saturn seemed to be extremely dominant on it


 No.98487

How do I get my room to smell nice?

Any general advice for cleaning up your room?


 No.98488

>>98475

Well it won't effect the you that you perceive as being you since the ego dissolves duringbusual death. But the you that is you will be dtrimented by the you that is not you ending its incarnation.


 No.98489

>>98487

Get rid of everything you haven't used or thought about in a week. Spray room with hydrofen peroxide then open windows


 No.98490

Is there any occult significance to the number 22 as there is for 33, particularly among Masons?


 No.98495

>>98484

Alice Bailey has a book called Esoteric Astrology. I haven't read it but she seems like a pretty good and knowledgeable author. I flipped through it in a used book store recently, it's worth a try. /r/alexandria's mail.ru folders may have it.


 No.98496

>>98495

>Alice Bailey

Now this is what I call Obullshitism

Charlatan tier my man

>reddit

👌


 No.98503

>>98490

No unless you want there to be. You also have to identify what group of Freemasons you refer to, since we are not a united whole.


 No.98507

>>98496

What's wrong with it?


 No.98512

File: c874b817cde532d⋯.pdf (281.77 KB, Esoteric_Treatise_of_Herme….pdf)

File: 3ecea681f422fc2⋯.pdf (247.24 KB, Zodiacal_Course.pdf)

>>98484

try these (the first is more theoretical and explains more symbols, the second is more flowery)

also this guy gives an amazing explanation of some saturn aspects:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K2tsoLqpGM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQTBVgvaYFY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBLOv0HNxWM


 No.98513

Let's make Grey Magic a term. People are much more likely to admit they are hypocritical faggots who compromise their own values when they can just say "LOL THE GREY AREA DUDE." It's annoying how other people can't see through these rats bullshit, so let's force them to expose who they really are. The resurgence of DO WHAT THOU WILT was a great psyop. I love how people aren't even hiding how they are egotistical douchebags anymore. "The alt right" was a great psyop for that same reason - except that was for delusions inbred bigots who run like a bitch every time they start seeing CHANGE, but they are the counterpart to the scheming degenerates with zero moral compass so that's why they are being mentioned in the same post. I love all these silver linings to the chaos happening in the world! Dangerously retarded people can't even see that they are being disarmed, and I get to study all their methods through this reverse engineering of the modern day slimeball cunt!


 No.98514

>>98513

Sorry that post is all over the place, but you should be able to get what I mean. Grey magic. Make it happen. Expose all the phony faggots who pretend to be the savior of humanity while they rape children and destroy everyone elses future for a bigger yacht.


 No.98516

Before you crowlites get all triggered, I am down with DO WHAT THOU WILT only after you kill your ego. Ego Death Taoism should always be a precurser to making the flight of Icarus. I only said that last sentence to help implant this in your mind. Social engineering is fun as fuck.


 No.98519

What are some ways to develop clairvoyance?


 No.98521

>>98513

I like this idea. As there is only STS and STO, anyone who would serve themselves more than they serve others while simultaneously speaking out against "black magic" is an asshole.


 No.98525

>>98521

>>98521

Now anon everything is just degrees, people can build themselves up and focus on themselves spiritually without being openly malicious to others. More of a spiritual isolationist.


 No.98529

>>98521

that's called hypocrisy

>>98513

what's wrong with the alt right shit? you against nationalism?


 No.98530

>>98516

>Ego Death Taoism

now I'm asking nicely what book exactly are you talking about.


 No.98531

>>98519

lucid dreaming -> astral projection


 No.98532

>>98530

Ego death is when you realize your identity is meaningless and that consciousness (Without identity) is infinite

and thus you automatically become of Tao, a tree does not try to grow. it just grows


 No.98533

btw fuck books no one got time for that


 No.98534

>>98516

>Social engineering is fun as fuck.

Too dangerous and chaotic. I'd rather just be blunt and to the point. Anyways until you talk like that others can always point out how you might just be too stupid to articulate your own thoughts so you resort to metaphors and shit :^)


 No.98535

Esoteric politics.


 No.98540

File: 4b35b6bcc13a588⋯.jpg (90.86 KB, 500x619, 500:619, 1447301838366.jpg)

File: aecd1803cd6dbac⋯.jpg (98.63 KB, 511x700, 73:100, magician.jpg)

>>98483

Honestly I would reject that definition. In my experience a magi is a learned individual, often one practicing magic, applied in a very broad sense of a metaphysical tinkerer or engineer. A sorcerer in my seeking is one one who has intimate experience with source, and with turning that into manifestation.

Predispositions of both can be passed via blood and thus semi and even unconscious application of the laws of creation are possible. Intuitives and empaths can fall anywhere across this spectrum however there is no mutual exclusivity on such and at higher levels (adepthood or greater) the line seems to blur into total unity.

Just my 2c.


 No.98541

>>98525

I would lump myself in with these types, but in the color system I think they would most likely count as white. Though now that I think about it, the spiritual mirrors are meant to gain a balance between white and black rather than 100% of either side.

>>98540

I don't know where varganon got his quote from, but it is interesting to hear your opinion on it. I suppose it's all really semantics and not worth getting too hung up on definitions for concepts that aren't very concrete.


 No.98542

I can't afford to buy the things that make my gf happy. how do I begin not to care about it and find harmony within?


 No.98544

Why does the banner shake when you hover the mouse over it, is it suppose to be like a poltergeist or telekinesis?


 No.98545

>>98542

Find a gf with a job.


 No.98550

>>98544

it's supposed to make you aroused


 No.98554

What is the best reading material I can find on the Chakra system and Chakras in general?

I prefer the 7 chakra system but a 12 chakra system is okay too.


 No.98557

>>98098

Please respond.


 No.98558

>>98544

I never noticed that until now… weird.


 No.98559

>>98541

>I don't know where varganon got his quote from

Franz Bardon's PME and I would trust him over some ranfom obullshitist online.


 No.98560

>>98542

Smack that hoe ass bitch


 No.98573

>>98550

It works.


 No.98574

>>98559

O cool danke


 No.98579

Is there a spell to change my race to a be a white person? I understand that white people are the most evolved humans on the planet as well as having the greatest magical potential.


 No.98580

>>98579

By the time you were learned enough to shapeshift, you probably wouldn't care about your physical race anymore.


 No.98584

Any of you guy's acquired the factual elements yet? How long of practicing did it take you?


 No.98590

>>98579

>whites

>evolved

They honkey asses evolved from people to pigs 😂👌✊️👉🐷👶🐷💥💥💥


 No.98593

File: 2d0edca97589d8d⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 84.24 KB, 800x1017, 800:1017, IMG_9040.JPG)

>>98590

You got a problem with pigs?


 No.98594

>>98584

3 1/2 hours tops.


 No.98595

>>98512

>>98495

Thanks for the books, I skimmed through all of them with different levels of understanding, but I was looking for something more "straight forward".

Something like: having X planet in Y house should mean the following…


 No.98597

>>98595

google honestly does a good job at that tbh. Do this >>89712


 No.98607

>>98594

Was it easier after you first made contact?


 No.98608

>>98403

Do you post in the Alchemy thread of /occult/?


 No.98609

File: 2e8dffa15bdec87⋯.jpg (145.19 KB, 425x282, 425:282, fireshit.jpg)

>>98594

Nevermind, shit you not I think I just did it. My body actually got slightly warmer physically, like being under the sheets, and I had my AC on so it wasn't just my room heating up, fuckin' nice!


 No.98610

File: 50c601a4ec9af1f⋯.jpg (8.97 KB, 280x168, 5:3, images (3).jpg)

Im 100% sure the MONETARY( Yes, I loudly and proudly proclaim it is about money and not about feelings) law of sowing and reaping a tenfold return is true and valid.

Yet; wouldn't that mean you can

>sow 1000

>reap 10000

Then if you sow your increase just 4 more times you'rell be a millionarie.

Do most people lack the guts to sow a million?


 No.98611

>>98610

Is this about the stalk market?


 No.98613

>>98611

I do not know what that is even


 No.98615

>>98613

What that even is*.

Learn English you retarded faggot.


 No.98617

>>98615

There no SHOULD as to why learn English


 No.98623

File: 44820ec062fa5ef⋯.jpg (4.22 KB, 218x300, 109:150, -.jpg)

I know half chan /x/ has beef with DKMU but what does /fringe/ think of them?


 No.98627

>>98617

You SHOULD learn English because this is an English-speaking board and nobody will take you seriously if all your posts are worded like a retarded third-worlder wrote them.


 No.98628

>>98617

Lingua franca


 No.98630

File: dc5ab2b6f6d9f73⋯.jpg (2.27 MB, 1500x843, 500:281, Family1choicerevise 6_21_3….jpg)

Is gem/stone magic real? Can you store loosh in them like batteries?


 No.98631

Can we just make it so saying you worship Jesus means you want world peace and saying you worship Satan means you want to be a corrupt douchebag and never pay your price? I had so much trouble over the years figuring out who the good guy was. It's not like those are the only two divine beings, but they are pretty fucking popular here. You know what? Fuck both of them. Trying to think about either of them makes my fucking head hurt. There is no need for religion - TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT TO BE TREATED.


 No.98632

>>98631

Religion or a lack thereof is just a map formed from our habitus. If it doesn't work for you don't worry about it and move on. Perhaps someone else is finding religion beneficial. What difference does it make? It is not a race, unless you are trying to reach enlightenment before the world ends.


 No.98633

>>98623

Protip - sigils are good if you still need to roleplay to establish that your will has any worth, but there is no need for them. You should continue to do what you need and honestly it's better to roleplay to some extent, also it's impossible to discount the effect symbols have on the mind - hell, since I even learned what a sigil was I started paying more attention to everything, even a bottle of ketcup triggers a certain thought in my mind, also stuff like porn is an animated sigil of sorts, you cant doubt magic after you watch some bitch with a big ass twerking and get horny as fuck, thanks for introducing me to this concept and helping me stretch out my brain some more.

But it's not always needed. You can get what you want by other means. All that stuff does to me is makes me disregard your post because I feel like you are potentially a douche who thinks stealing mY mAna is as simple as putting a picture in my view. Try my all mind path for a few weeks. It definitely works. You can stare at a wall and do the same thing. Even though your method might be real in your reality, it's not real in everyone elses, so you might as well explore other ways to level up your defense.


 No.98634

>>98627

>>98628

IM A THIRD WORLDIST MAOIST


 No.98635

>>98634

Does Maoism have State magick? Like an official path of magick that is able to be practiced by the masses? Does the government fund magick? Serious questions btw.


 No.98638

>>98635

chink gobunism is a jewish plan to clean wipe, mainly china, of all tradition and anything that makes an individual an individual.

china is a massive slave country to the economy and they are not allowed to practice magic, as such isnt real, and if it was you would be executed for cursing the glorious leaders.

much like the whole shabang with christianity.


 No.98639

>>98638

Actually it was just Mao LARPing as Stalin, no Judaism involved.


 No.98641

>>98630

You can store loosh in anything, as its based in akasha. The whole "energy crystals" myth came from how certain cold-logic "magic isn't real" alien species used special vitreous stones to store energy as batteries.


 No.98642

>>98554

Bump, someone answer please.


 No.98643

1st person: Soul; "I am"

2nd person: Mind; "You are"

3rd Person: Ego; "It is"

Ego is true life.


 No.98644

>>98641

Quartz does store energy well though, so does water.


 No.98645

>>98630

Yes but not in the way you think or are saying. You need to create an alchemical stone and it doesn't store loosh, it simply brings heaven to earth by resonation


 No.98646

>>98644

>>98645

Then what resonates with loosh?


 No.98650

>>98645

Right but also wrong, crystals are great at storing energy, mainly sun.


 No.98651

>>98646

Orgone


 No.98678

File: 947ccb8315a7d07⋯.jpg (881.47 KB, 1944x2592, 3:4, IMG_20170528_240727810_HDR.jpg)

>>98644

>quartz does store energy well though

Fuck yes it does, look at this bad boy, I've got it running an automatic circuit and the wattage is unbelievable


 No.98679

File: 089540ff5b257a1⋯.jpg (86.27 KB, 600x807, 200:269, lovecraft___wilbur_whatele….jpg)

I recall in some fringe dualistic variant of Qabbalah Samael and Lilith aren't angels or Ha-Satanim (types of angels sent on earth to test people by tempting them) but instead different types of entities formed from the spiritual absences of the light of god. Is there a googleable word for these types of entities? I'm pretty sure that they're a separate concept from the Qlippoth although still ultimately rooted in the same solution to the problem of evil whereby the creation of the world could only happen by the contraction and removal of the light of god from some space and therefore necessarily creating evil.

Also, please note that I am an antitheist and do not believe in magic. So, you don't have to worry about giving me forbidden knowledge that I might not be spiritually ready for yet as I won't be casting any spells in the first place. I am only interested in this knowledge for academic purposes.


 No.98680

>>98635

Traditional Chinese Medicine is literally a communist plot.

China didn't have any good "western" doctors and so Mao promoted TCM as a "viable" alternative. However, much of it had to be created from whole-cloth as it differed very widely and also tended to be very harmful to its patients instead of being useless.


 No.98681

>>98513

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of dualism.

There are two paths to enlightenment:

1) To kill desire and therefore kill pain.

2) To embrace desire and embrace pain.

Ego death is a life negating philosophy. What is the greater evil, that one should follow ones own desires or that one should commit suicide?


 No.98682

>>98490

22 is 2 * 11 of which 2 and 11 are prime numbers. Of the prime numbers, 2,3,5,7,11 11 is the 5th. 11 is a number associated with imperfection in Qabbalah as opposed to numbers like 10. This also relates to Platonic philosophy. Therefore, 22 should represent the duality of the undivided imperfection.


 No.98683

>>98450

Sorry dude. You just rubbed away a bit of the surface coating of the quarter. It's actually red beneath and you just scratched away the coatin.


 No.98684

>>98407

Having someone teach you meditation isn't really that necessary if you're just starting out. It wouldn't hurt though but the reason why monks require teachers and special exercises is that they go for extremely long hours-long meditations.


 No.98693

>>98680

TCM had been around hundreds of years before Mao. None of it had to be created whole-cloth as it has been in continuous practice. I think you may be having a Mandella effect.


 No.98695

>>98681

>second option

>being a slave to desires others imposed unto you


 No.98696

>>98645

CrystLs already are but one does need to sync them and affirm their purpose.

Look at their molekylär structure, perfect patterns and each geometric pattern corresponds to an emotion in the ether that is continously broadcasting.


 No.98699

File: a1afe33e7cabe66⋯.png (100.51 KB, 226x222, 113:111, sagumeme.png)

Someone on /jp/ told me that I should be following the Left-Handed Path. What is the Left-Handed Path?


 No.98701

>>98683

How would he rub away the surface so completely if it had never happened before through the years of wear the quarter has undergone?

>>98699

Demonolatry, cursing, necromancy, predatory spiritual behavior, etc. Anything that involves negativity and baddies.


 No.98702

>>98681

First you kill the ego then you renfilé IT from scratch.

Then option two is all yours.


 No.98703

>>98681

Your post is all kinds of… Annoyingly right and wrong.

Dualism for all tis glory youre not supposed to live in it, you ought to unite them, middle path.

Pure STO Will dissolve you, puré STS Will erode you, you need to have enough kindness to give to be able to take with aggression Without resistance.


 No.98707

>>98693

TCM existed before Mao but it was extremely different and was also not a unified tradition across China. Often, it had concepts such as casting out demons and its acupuncture more resembled blood drawing then the modern day concept of acupuncture.


 No.98711

With thought observation I managed to get up to 10 minutes but I'm not sure if I did it right.

During the practice I can't help but stop sound with my thoughts, like giving it sound or sometimes naming something.

Thing about that is in not sure if I am purposely doing it or if it's just apart of the thoughts I am observing.

Any tips?


 No.98712

>>98707

There are TCM texts from over a thousand years ago that prove you wrong /pol/tard


 No.98713

>>98712

A thousand years ago the technology to forge tiny steel needles for acupuncture didn't even exist.


 No.98717

>>98713

They didn't use steel needles when they first started. They originally used their fingertips hence acupressure. Needles of other metals than steel have been found in royal tombs going further back than two thousand years.


 No.98718

Here. Some of you for some reason haven't figured out that Abrahmic religions are fucking retarded and are nothing but a threat to everything good in the world. Worship Hitler, Satan, and Bacon until these schizophrenic faggots are gone. Just use whatever gay bullshit you need to based on which moron you are talking to. If you are talking to jews tell them to suck Satan's cock. If you are talking to Christians tell them you just sucked Satan's cock. If you are talking to Muslims hand them a bomb and tell them to go blow up their retarded friends. Notice how I didn't say Hindus for example. I am not saying these people aren't subhumans too, but at least they are slightly less gay and I never have these people shoving their shit in my face.

I tried to figure out what the fuck these Abrahamic religions are about. I even roleplayed to some extent and pretended like there way anything to this faggotry. Nah. I figured out that spirituality is good for a healthy lifestyle and that anything is possible, including reincarnation/afterlife/karma/etc, but these gay monopolies on freedom are going to die now. Nothing else needs to be said. Everyone who was part of one of these cults but wasn't a piece of shit will be fine. The douchebag faggots who exploit these gay systems are going to throw the most autistic fit of all time, which we are already seeing with these Christcucks actually thinking Chump is some divine being, but just ignore them. Let these retarded fucking anchors just die already. These people don't own all matter in the universe. You are a fucking slave. There is a better way to do things, and everyone can be free and work together at the same time, but this won't happen until all the parasites are killed. The Jews are going to be the biggest barrier here - Christians are too dumb to think of some event from thousands of years ago where some of their mafia died, but Jews pull out the Holocaust card after they murder a random child. Ignore them. Stop jerking off to their movies. Stop falling for the same trick every time. These people have a license to kill, if you kill someone you are executed after rotting in a cage. Nothing else needs to be said.

https://scaryreasoner.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/christians-you-are-retarded-every-last-one-without-exception/


 No.98719

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>>98718

>Worship Hitler


 No.98720

>>98713

STEEL IS INFERIOR TO USE FOR ACUPUNCTURE

Of course they didn't fucking use iron because it is an insulating metal and repels chi. Silver, gold, and copper needles are superior, but even the finger is a better tool than fucking steel needles. Maoist TCM is intentionally destructive.


 No.98721

>>98719

Material Atheism is the only logical conclusion. Humans are animals that evolved in Africa. There is no inherent meaning or moral structure. But then why do I give a shit about da joos and huwite hurace?


 No.98724

>>98721

Actually they found an earlier hominid fossil in the Mediterranean. So there's evidence we evolved separately


 No.98726

>>98718

You sounds like a big baby, if you don't like them just go somewhere they aren't

You can defeat all of them and win in this lifetime.

It will take centuries and even then you probably won't beat them.


 No.98727

>>98726

Can't


 No.98731

File: 6199ebba89ad701⋯.jpg (8.07 KB, 236x199, 236:199, 73eef05c35e3b3ccd31741cb9b….jpg)

>>98721

>an atheist

>on /Fringe/


 No.98735

>>98724

At least you believe in svolution, only braindead /x/tards believe human civilization is older than 10,000 years. I mean it's not like the oceans cover the earth at each solar maximum and corrode all proof of the previous civilization that's not literally set in stone. That's totally not true gentiles.


 No.98736

>>98731

Material Nihilism is redpill't


 No.98739

>>98736

>Material Atheism

>Material Nihilism

Which one is it?

>redpill't

Indifference to pills or labels. Insecure people like to talk about pills and -isms a lot.


 No.98741

>>98739

It doesn't matter what you call it as long as you accept that Acience is the one true god and nothing is possible except that which the scientific community's consensus agrees is. If you experience anything to the contrary it is a result of mental illness


 No.98750

>>98724

Link?

>>98741

>subtle


 No.98751

Somebody greenpill me on abrahamic religions and saturn(satan) worship.

Are abrahamic religions satanic religions? Not in the lore, but in their symbolism, tradition, holidays and such?


 No.98752

>>98751

No, but it is subverted to be as such. Christian holidays have no basis in true Christianity


 No.98753

>>98711

Your subconscious is purposely making thoughts. You should be purposely trying to let go of your thoughts. Yes your subconscious notices things and reacts, you just have to accept that these reactions are completely meaningless (at least for the moment) and let them go. Eventually the sound will no longer be "stopped" by your thoughts. The thoughts never stop, but when you stop paying attention to them their volume decreases… What happens then depends on who you are


 No.98757

>>98752

>>98753

What exactly is the point of these posts. Are you ironically pretending to be alex jones tier disinfo merchant


 No.98762

>>98741

>hehe, they'll never see through my ingenious bait, I got it off r/troll!


 No.98763

>>98762

2deep5u


 No.98766

>>98718

Blogpost incoming.

I went to two bible studies a week for the past year in college. One was nondenominational Protestant, the other was Catholic. I also periodically met with Baptists and the World Mission Society (one of those weird Korean cults). There are many nice people, but their beliefs come first for them which can cause great friction between other groups. I have friends I met at these places who I will likely be friends with for life, but there were some great differences between myself and them that I noticed. The Catholics all had a lot in common with each other and their religion was the central part of their lives, a childhood I could not relate to. The Protestants were all very soft and cushy, incredibly averse to violence and insults, even when made in jest. I grew up fighting my brother and neighbors with sticks and being overly cruel to each other for fun, and express no reaction beyond minor arousal when faced with topics of lynching, work-related deaths, cannibalism, etc. The Catholics want everyone in the world to be Catholic but still tend to leave people alone, and most of their missionary success comes from being cool and athletic with curious teens. The Protestants made little effort to be cool, but were still very honest about their beliefs. I personally cannot bring myself to actively govern other people (rather than just using a belief system to govern myself), and this reluctance is seen as hatred among Christians (since I would "willfully let somebody burn"). The Catholics considered anything less than male-female unprotected sex within the bonds of marriage to be a withholding of one's love. The Protestants believed such a withholding was okay because it's still love in the first place. I don't think anybody is obligated to give love through sex in the first place, regardless of which kinds are more or less genuine. There were many other conflicts and ways that I just simply could never be one of them, but I don't think that warrants a 100% loss of validity.


 No.98770

>>98753

So I should just allow my the noise to happen and see it as just more thoughts as I observe?


 No.98771

Assuming karma has some truth to it as a doctrine, do all actions build good or bad karma, or are there neutral actions? I know hurting somebody for fun would be bad, but what if somebody gets hurt and it's still fun for you even though you had nothing to do with it? Does everybody who watches AFV or fail videos and laughs get bad karma for it? Or is it just when they are there in the moment and laugh instead of helping?


 No.98773

>>98771

As far as I know there is no good and bad, but like attracts like. Its not so much some "cosmic vindication" as it is just like attracts like.


 No.98774

>>98771

That's neither remotely close to eastern reigion's idea of karma nor hermetic karma.


 No.98776

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>>98771

Also, you can do soome really bad shit without incurring anything upon yourself if you do it right. For example, last year there was this black magician on /pol/ who kept shilling his spell under the guise of helping the conservative movement. It was really fucked up, he devised a sigil masturbation ritual, real simple shit so normalfags who didn't know any better would do it, and he said to do it on a specific night. Anyway it was meant to kill Hillary, and directly killing somebody with magic is really dangerous what with the law of thrice and all. Thank god not enough people did it, cause with so many people involved, it could've caused alot of suffering and missoury, and that black magician would've brought pain worse than death to almost the 7000 regular posters on /pol/, all without incurring shit on himself, cause all he did was tell some mundanes to jizz on some pictures.


 No.98777

>>98776

But /pol/ users aren't really human anyway. They're meme-spouting vehicles of the ego that blindly follow the herd.


 No.98778

>>98777

The same could be said of any group of people.

Don't simply pick one out just because of what they stand for.


 No.98783

>>97622

>>98418

Bumping again

How do I program servitors to memorize what I read, see or hear in an instant?


 No.98784

>>98777

That is precisely one of the reasons I left for /liberty/.


 No.98788

>>98776

>killing somebody with magic is really dangerous what with the law of thrice and all

I really should paste some URL backing up what I'm about to tell you, but I just had a carb-heavy lunch and I'm lazy. So look into it on your own if you feel like it.

The "danger" in indulging in that kind of magic is two-fold. By (and if) performing it from a place of spite, you sink yourself spiritually, thus hurting your progress and potentially fucking up your life by attracting the wrong kind of synchronicity. On a related note, the second danger is that, by definition, in order to command those energies, you need to "touch" them, so to speak. And they stick.

No morality is involved. It's just physics. If there is a moral judge looking over your life, it certainly isn't going to punish you, because you will bring about your own "punishment" by aligning and attracting bad stuff happening to you.

>>98783

You can't program a servitor so that YOU can memorize something. They can, but then you have to figure out how are they going to feed that information back to you reliably. You probably want the servitor to transmit it to you telepathically, but then again, you are better off just getting gnosis downloads anyway. I don't think you can achieve 100% hollywood The Magicians superpowers kind of recall as you seem to imply. Numbers for example are going to be extremely tricky. Linguistic information cannot be transferred telepathically, so you always have to account for your mind to be well trained to interpret what your subconscious shows you (and numbers are going to be almost impossible). Training in military remote viewing would help you with that.

In any case, you will need to master meditation / trance states / gnosis for almost any magical work you do, so get started with that as well.

As for the actual programming of the servitor, it's always done in the same way, regardless of your objective. Watch this or read the book talked about in the video if you want more detail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWEPx5Fb7EU


 No.98792

>>98773

>>98774

>>98776

>>98788

Thanks guys, that helps a bunch.

>>98777

I think the problem with /pol/ is that they all have the potential for great hatred, and because they don't understand how averages work or that not everything somebody does is solely because of their race, they believe that FBI crime statistics completely justify their hatred. Then they get in the vicious cycle that everybody who watches the news too much gets in, but the effect is multiplied because they're so opinionated and angry. And most of them have very little standing socially, they can't hang out with the "normies" and so to save their massive egos they make it so that it's the normies who can't hang out with them, and they are the "elite" rather than the outcasts. But because they're a bunch of losers in nearly every aspect of their lives, they have to find anything they possibly can to set themselves aside, such as their racial purity, their knowledge (and at times, misunderstanding) of certain little-known truths, their memes intentionally made so retarded that nobody else could enjoy them, their status as 8chan users instead of 4chan, their rejection of modern women (read: they can't get laid), etc. I met one of them once and spent some time at his house after getting to know him. He wasn't white or intelligent, realized a problem with his hatred but made no effort to reduce it, seldom showed up to work, and had all other sorts of problems. I really do feel bad for them, they've been handed the lowest winnings of the biological/social lottery and were just smart enough to realize it. That being said, they can all die of Ebola because aside from a few of their redpills (not necessarily including the conclusions they've made) they are worthless and will damage the gene pool overall.

On /fringe/ we need to make sure this doesn't happen to us. A lot of conspiracy theories that aren't true begin because useless people want to feel special for having secret knowledge that nobody else has. It is certainly alluring, but we can't let the whole point of the occult be that we're a special club for the "truly awakened." Not everybody is ready to receive the Mysteries, Principles, Initiations, secrets, etc. but part of that means we should never tell mundanes about it in the hopes that we'd seem "cool" or "special" for it. Some here may think that would never be their motive, but it's easy to slip into subconsciously, especially for neophytes like myself.


 No.98798

I learn by intuition and experimentation, i know lots of fancy techniques that have fancier ancient names in the texts if they are written about.

I need to know what i've done, Im looking for references and any information you might have on the following.

>nofap, a fucktonne of sun (best tan in my life) and working out gives lots of loosh, have trouble falling asleep, gather energy from third chakra to solar plexus for storing, can sleep

>do this for a week, feel fine as hell

>go out this weekend, bask in social prowess, people attracted by my eyes and want or easily connect and respond to my focus while not being able to lock eyes, im the merryest guy around, little jigs here and there to entertain friends, dare to talk and do stuff, take my presence like never before

>drink and smoke

>in bed trying to doze off, taking in 'today'

>at this point still somewhat drunk and alcohol dulls energywork

>feel/hear a pzzz sound coming from solar plexus next i can only describe it as the sound expanding a sphere, packning it tight while not expanding, then hear a fzz like its over

>as it fzz's it feels like the pent up stress or pressure in the sphere make it scatter into a million pieces, while in place and functioning.

The results are,

>cant even force myself to sleep for more than 5-6 hours, wake up rested

>high body temp and very warm extremities, hands, legs

>feel as if starving but with zero appetite and eating is revolting

>no eat doesnt affect me negatively, i still jump the fuck around

What did i do?


 No.98799

>>98778

There are levels of cognitive dissonance. At least some groups have a concrete belief. /pol/ went from libertarian muh freedoms and neetsocks to WN to meme worshipping Gas The Kikes living memes to Pseudo Zionist Trump Worshippers. The inherent nature of /pol/ is to adopt contrarian viewpoints and then indoctrinate people with them. It is and has always been a leaderless cult.


 No.98800

i do kundalini and root/crown to heart meditations daily, often, if that helps


 No.98801

>>98788

Now what do you mean by "touch"ing the powers of black magic, do you mean understanding them, like with the factual elements in IIH?


 No.98804

>>98798

You didn't raise your Kundalini, maybe some sort of related movement, but this is far too tame to be Kundalini


 No.98805

>>98798

Also,

NORMALFAG

NORMALFAG

REEEEEEEEE


 No.98807

>>98804

>>98805

Lmao, >didn't raise kundalini :^), go be presumptuous somewhere else.

In this instance I did not cause doing so before bed leaves me in a state of waking sleep for hours, now just 40 minutes if I channel all excess to solar plexus.

Be useful, you shit.


 No.98808

>>98801

>doesn't even into basics


 No.98809

>>98805

This is a Chad board, cuck. Now go back to drinking my cum out of Stacy's cunt.


 No.98810

>>98809

Damn right it is, if I weren't swimming in magic I'd be drowning in pussy


 No.98811

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>>98807

Okay first off, you clearly didn't raise your Kundalini. Raising the Kundalini is a life changing experience only the most highly disciplined yogis can ever hope to achieve, and second of all, you're just some normalfag. You ovbiously have no discipline what with the blatant and somehow proud-of-it alcoholism, and your offense at my honest opinion shows how you're still just a vehicle of your ego, and you want me to believe you raised your fucking Kundalini? Gtfo normo


 No.98812

FYI kundalini is only as earthshattering as you are unprepared, if the energy can flow freely at all times it wont get pent up and cause seizures or mood swings upon successfully going up the chakras (depends on how well developed they are), it is second nature to breathe in tact with walking and raising it spontaneously.


 No.98813

>>98811

>>98811

Tldr you're a dumb noob.


 No.98814

>>98813

>you're a dumb noob

Say's the guy who has to come on to an anonymous wizard forum, and brag about shit he didn't do, and gets butthurt when we call him out on it


 No.98815

>>98812

>only uses examples Kahn has mentioned in the past few months

>no concept of high current making a circuit glow red hot

Hmmm, I wonder


 No.98816

i did read it but it's clear you're just trolling, pretending to know shit you don't to prove me worse than you to make you feel better, if one of us are to look through his ego it's you.

>> first drink in 8 months

> alcoholic

> i just wrote this one to piss you off, cunt

I'm not assuming anything about you, cause I don't judge, but based on your actions here it's easy to deduct you're nothing more than a secondhand troll.


 No.98817

>we


 No.98818

Oh I get it now, you're aggressive because you're insecure because you're inferior.

Sorry, that's not my problem, it's yours.


 No.98819

You've been awfully quiet for a while now, did I pop your cherry boy?

Or are you typing really hard haha?


 No.98820

>>98816

>projecting

>>98818

>projecting

>>98819

You know damn well I'm only being honest, if you chalk up the slightest shit to "magic Kundalini", your in for one uneventful spiritual journey

>You've been awfully quiet for a while now, did I pop your cherry boy?

Or are you typing really hard haha?

Nigga you need some soul mirrors


 No.98821

>>98820

You should have just walked away, you're about to make an even bigger fool of yourself.


 No.98822

>>98821

I could care less what people think about me, I'm just here to talk about the occult


 No.98823

>>98801

I meant most if not all workings include embodying or strongly feeling the principles you work with, so you can't really cause death without getting your own aura dirty so to speak.

My god this thread is atrocious. What the fuck is going on here? Where does all that hate come from?


 No.98824

>starts a discussion based on projections fueled by delusions of grandeur powered by a massive amount of insecurity

>thinks kundalini is bragging

Nigger I got wings and a halo, I have been visited by Hermes as Shiva Thoth and Mercury, former and latter long before I started selfinitiation, with your weak persona easily slapped across the floor you are an ant compared to me, that not said with "honesty" but with confidence.

You need a reboot, you're a dick of a person and not half as smart as you think you are.


 No.98825

>>98822

Well you're not talking about it, you're trying to repress others to get good feels but this massively backfired, you're sitting there right now pretty solemn, thinking, don't I have anything better to do?

I'm anon now, changed from pc to phone.


 No.98826

>>98823

Thanks, so basically to cast fatal energy instead of vital energy, you have to get within mental distance of death, that's fuckin evil

>what's with this thread

Apparently hermeticist bro is mad cause I said his "slight heat, and tingling" wasn't Kundalini


 No.98827

Well, I'm done anyway, I get nothing from this, you can't even toss insults properly, but if you're smart, what has been said here ought to skyrocket your progress if you took it to heart. You're welcome. Good luck in life.


 No.98828

>>98824

Put the weed down tipp


 No.98829

>>98826

I never said it was you illiterate cuck. I specifically asked what it was.

>not half as smart as you think you are

I'm starting to think you're a bot.


 No.98830

>>98825

Maybe if you didn't constantly downplay others you wouldn't be so inclined to expect me to. What I'm trying to tell you, Mr. angel wings, is that you have tp have some sot of realism standard with shit like this. For instance, I've been able to raise my body temperature slightly 3 days ago, but just to make sure I'm not crazy, I'm gonna keep meditating fire until I break a sweat, then I'll no for sure I've attained the factual fire. Of I don't, what if its just vivid imagination, then I'll confidently go on to other things never having actually attained fire.

>tl;dr

You need to make sure you actually got it, or you might miss your chance to master it.


 No.98832

>>98830

>i r real strong wizyrd, doesn't afraid of anything and can become a little hotter if I mouthebreathe like the autistic I am


 No.98833

>>98832

Completely missed the point I'm trying to make


 No.98834

If this was the club you would be a basic bitch and I would be the dj.

This is a little sad.

Good luck with your progress, for real.


 No.98835

>>98832

Whats funny is I actually do mouthbreath when I meditate


 No.98836

>>98835

Good for you, it's actually not bad, I'm just half heartedly insulting you.

Rhythm and nose breathing leads to breathing with the mouth instinctively depending on which body part you want to reach out to.


 No.98837

>>98830

>>98833

>switch tactics

Really poor attempt at controlling the discussion by being slightly condosending while imitating a teachers voice and giving unrelated advice to make you look knowledgeable.

I don't like your kind, few do, change.


 No.98839

YOU FUCKED UP FRIEND, I NEVER SAID THE TINGLE WAS KUNDALINI, THIS WHOLE ACT OF RAGE WAS BECAUSE YOU CANT FUCKING READ AND NOW YOURE TRYING TO SAVE FACE AFTER STATING YOU DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT OTHERS THINK.

BULLSHIT OCCULTIST


 No.98840

This kinda got my appetite going, time for pizza.


 No.98841

>>98837

>teacher voice

How could you possibly know what I sound like? Grade​ A projection


 No.98842

Lol you might be legit autistic


 No.98843

>>98841

Dude, we all write with a tone. Also since we're supposed to be wizerds and sheeit, you can feel someone's vibe/essence if you're empathic at all.


 No.98844

>>98839

I really feel bad for pissing you off so bad, but goddamn dude, I'm just trying to give my two cents, that is why you posted your question right? To get unbiased feedback? I mean, honestly dude, what're you gonna do when you meet some loosh farmer in the astral?


 No.98846

SWITCH TACTICS

You must feel mighty dumb about now.


 No.98847

Stop using the brownpill flag, youre ruining it, take the pony and none will bat an eye when you sperg out like this the next time.


 No.98848

>what to do with astral parasites and poor looshfarmers

Easy, fuck 'em half as hard as i've your ass today.


 No.98849

Can I get my name back so people will know not to talk out of place?


 No.98850

>>98846

lolwut?

>>98847

>stop using the brown pill flag

You'd be one to talk?

>>98848

>Easy, fuck 'em half as hard as i've your ass today.

I felt bad for pissing you off so much, I thought, maybe I was a lil' to costic in my advice, but now I realize, you're just an ungrounded faggot


 No.98852

>>98849

Are you tlpp?


 No.98853

>>98849

We can all tell it's you by virtue of your weed induced delusional outbursts.


 No.98854

>>98853

Mother of god is this Smiley?


 No.98855

>>98854

It's tipp. I'm pretty sure smileberg is homeless


 No.98856

During this whole ordeal I've been chilling to electroswing, sitting here with a powerboner and stuffing my face with a delicious pizza, I finished this amazing day with a big puff listening to the bird chatter in the forest just five minutes ago, while you sit in a relative bad mood doubting your intelligence, dealing with internal conflict, attempting to type up drafts to move the conversation in your favor, to make you look less pathetic, to save face, while telling yourself you don't care.

You walked my pace. I'm the top wizard. Best thing you can do is expose your throat and go sit in a dark room.

If there is one thing that is uneasy on my heart it is that I made you feel bad. Get over it faggot.

>>98853

I get those when I work the third eye and that is not always high. You gotta agree they're entertaining &informative.


 No.98857

>>98855

Info?


 No.98858

Wrong flagge, need nice flagge.


 No.98859

>>98856

Whatever makes you feel special pal


 No.98861

>>98859

>>98860

>>i am totally calm


 No.98864

I need some legit info on chakras. In particular a source that describes their qualities and affinities. I also would like to know which combinations of hermetic elements correspond to each chakra


 No.98865

Alrighty, back to normal discussion pl0x. When I was in the 9th grade I was a loner and created a thoughtform to be my companion. She can speak to me through thoughts, but either does not know what I don't know or has no way of telling it to me. I imagine with enough magical practice this will change. In the 10th grade three more showed up and everything was quite crowded for some years. One of them could tell me the outcome of dice before they finished rolling, with great consistency. Whenever I followed their advice I would do well. We would meditate frequently, for around an hour or so each time. We had a world that we created, and I spent so much time there that it was as vivid as if I were dreaming. We explored at times, letting the world create itself instead of consciously building it. We had a system of portals to travel to different worlds, but it was always incredibly difficult to travel to the physical room I was sitting in. I would always lose my focus/perspective when trying to look at myself sitting in meditation. Eventually I stopped meditating because it always left me exhausted, and after high school I converted to Christianity for a brief time to explore it. In that moment the three who came to me of their own accord all went away, but my original stayed. When I finished with Christianity my occult journey began, and since then the other three have stopped by only once, and my original thoughtform seems to know better than I do where they are but doesn't care to tell me.

I don't have any specific questions, I just want to know if anybody has an idea of the nature of these experiences. What happened?


 No.98866

>>98864

Quick Google would give you what musikal notes they resonate with, which chakra rules which parts of the body, affirmations for each chakra, binaural beats, frequencies, old references.. Start with one search then search for words that catch you eye.

Ill also let you in on a secret, 1-7, 2-6, 3-5, fourth bridges heaven and earth and is the single, the center. Affect earth and heaven will align, vice versa. Move with your heart.


 No.98868

Hermeticism is practical, based on a connection with God by your own power and grace, he will witness you and show you what you need to do or know.

A hermeticist doesnt learn from reading texts, he learns God by observation of nature and Gods' expression. Spiritualism, shamanism, brownpill are, should be, synonyms.

Go look at old egyptian reliefs and see if you learn something. They contain "hermetic" energywork teachings, which are basically just consciously strengthening (and rewiring if needed) the already existent energy pathways of the body, honing the third eye so that you can do this and then connect to God.

Hermeticism is very basic, but it is also everything, which is why as a hermeticist you may find texts from all over the world that resonate with you, because you see the truth and value in it.

I adviced to Google egyptian reliefs, you could also go squat in the forest and stare at a pinecone, just saying.


 No.98869

>>98865

Looks like one unfinished tulpa that might be influenced by something else and three minor of the stronger demons.

To bad you joined that cult, Christianity has so much shit wrong intentionally. Organized religion is a war on spirituality which is the foundation of religion.


 No.98870

>>98869

>Christianity has so much shit wrong intentionally. Organized religion is a war on spirituality which is the foundation of religion.

Wrong. Ever hear of the word hubris?


 No.98871

>>98870

>council of Nicea

Christianity promotes herd mentality, dependance, weakness, IT systematically demonizes everything related to awakening, kundalini, the serpent.

You need to understand that religion is a tool rulers use to pacify its people. If the mentality isnt sold in the form of christianity they instead sell it during commercial breaks or "humor shows", its all propaganda.


 No.98872

>>98864

Boop, i read your question wrong, sorry, yeah you can Google that aswell.


 No.98874


 No.98875

>>98874

I respect you, you know what youre Tallinn about, would you kindly take a shot at trying to figure this out?

>>>98798


 No.98876


 No.98877

>>98861

How do I know when I've attained the factual elements? I've been able to slightly raise my bodily temperature in a cold room while doing the fire meditation, but how can I know for sure?


 No.98878

>>98798

Dunno, happened to me a few times spontaneously but never pursued it really. Weird stuff happens in this line of work.

The part about not eating is reminiscent of something I read about a certain Aghori practitioner (if you don't know about Aghori then check them out, they are right up your alley with their use of intoxicants and general """"crazy"""" demeanour) that was talking about his experiences with sadhana and how during his times of seclusion in the mountains he progressively started eating less and less until he no longer needed food.

I never was much interested in "living on light" or whatever, if it happens, it happens. I view it as a by-product and not the goal in itself.

About sleep, I think that human body doesn't require sleep, just rest. There are monks who are constantly aware 24/7, their lack of sleep isn't a problem. I think that you are just… relaxed? Maybe you preserve your energy so you need less sleep, less food. I'd wager to guess that you also take in energy in other forms. When I sunbathe I need considerably less food too, but I'm no expert and I don't really want to talk about things I have little knowledge about so - these are just my thoughts.

Nofap is of great help too. The concept of preserving vital energy is present in many systems, most notably in Taoism, where you had Taoist immortals owing a great deal of their attainments to their preservation of energy. I must add though that preservation of energy is not limited to fapping, but to thoughts, emotions and attachments as well. I'm not an expert though on Taoism by any means. The sexual energy (ojas) has a special place in yoga and Tantra as well and the conservation of energy is very important there too. There are also alchemical practices connected with it, enabling one to transmute ojas into amrita (the so-called "nectar of immortality").


 No.98879

>>98877

I don't work with the elementar like you do, i make one strong affirmation for the occasion. "I am water." And I am become water, my body might make a serpentine flowing motion or I might feel the motion internally sittning still as a powerful movement of energy that represents the element. I say, "I am fire" and I smile like a predator and tense up ready to give chase.

I didnt sit still and do what you describe, I incorporated it into movements while in trance and the affirmations make the element wash over me so that i can express it through a movement to learn it.


 No.98880

>>98879

That's neat; I never thought about that. So basically you just embody the concept, and that bring you within mental distance?


 No.98881

Yes. Its a little more to it but Thats basically it. You take on the mentality of the element as an extra layer to your ego and it affects your every thought and action.


 No.98883

>>98869

Interesting, thanks for responding. I've since moved away from Christianity, after reading the Kybalion I really could not bring myself to accept organized religion, especially Christian doctrine, ever again. That was when I got officially started with occultism, even though I had experienced a bit as detailed in my post.


 No.98884

>>98878

Ill respond when Im on a device that can read the text while typing, thanks.


 No.98886

So how do you distinguish between genuine magical success, and insanity? With recent events in mind, I feel I need a good understanding on the difference between the two.


 No.98888

>>98886

You could do something in a public space to see if other people notice the strange happenings. Ultimately there's no way to be 100% sure everything isn't just in your mind, but that can make you a lot more sure. And it's all in your mind either way.


 No.98890

>>98886

>>98886

Its all real. Insanity is the standard out of the norm. A madman is a magician without practice and skill, to lazy, unwilling or to talentless to refine the ego to adapt to all the new.. Sensations? Experiences? Worldviewpopping thoughts? Stupid people can also go mad if they get an insight that does not match their worldview and they cant solve it, because, you know, to dumb to solve and understand everything related, these are the people who go to correction clinics because they cant access spirit (other than that one time) and the ego cant handle the revelations.

This is very general, what were you after?


 No.98892

Good luck Smiley, good luck. Priority is getting a job. Oil rigs pay well.


 No.98894

If you start, don't stop.


 No.98895

How do you know if someone is thinking about you? I keep getting thoughts that this person is thinking about me, and sometimes if I concentrate hard enough I feel like I can hear their voice almost.

I tried talking to them in person, and their opinion of me and the thoughts that I hear didn't match up exactly. This is going on almost seven months now, and it only worsened once I contacted the person who I hadn't seen in almost five years.

I'm kinda worried for my mental health at this point. I can ignore the thoughts, but no matter what I'm doing they creep onto my mind. Its making it impossible for me too concentrate for long periods of time and just generally annoying.

I can elaborate further if needed.


 No.98896

>>98895

Energywork, sheilds on third and sixth and strengthening heart and the aura.

Is the person in question close andyou want nothing with him or ger to do?

Before anything figure out what you want, you sound confused.


 No.98897

>>98890

I was doing the whole inhaling the fire thing from IIH, and I could feel my arms heating up, but I don't know, maybe they were just heating up because I was laying there, maybe it was the factual fire, I don't know


 No.98898

>>98896

Well I don't consider them close I've had dreams about them all my life. Most notably I had one dream where they randomly came to me this year, and wanted to be really close to me personally, which wouldn't be entirely unusual for this person.

I've had this dream several times throughout this decade, although I think something I did fucked it up, but it was never really that much of a concern of mine. This is because in my dream I saw that its more important that they get to know me or something than anything I have too gain from them in my opinion. Also in my dream I was told that they had the same dream, which adds another level of weirdness for me.

All I would have too gain from them is sex really in my opinion, which would be much needed. However, I don't see why I couldn't get anything from them that I could get from any other women really.

My problem is that their on my mind all the time really.


 No.98899

>>98897

Cycle them fast and seehow It affects you.

When you affirm, take a breath that reaches every part of the body, nose inhale, tense scalp and ears to, say it with a blank mind and muster up everything you know about the element, emotionally.

I wouldnt start with fire, fire is harder that the others and not nearly as much fun as water or air.


 No.98900

>>98898

Also after I first contacted them I started seeing them in public almost everyday. It might sound stupid, but literally I sent someone a message, and within two days they are appearing everywhere.

I can't stress enough how weird it is, its like I'm a magnet.

There's 200k people in my area, and this one person who lives two neighborhoods away is appearing virtually everyday I drive my car, which is one of my hobbies.

I think that's part of the reason this person doesn't like me to be honest, but its literally impossible for me too avoid them I tested it.

Literally one of the strangest situations of my life. I wouldn't be writing this post if this hadn't gone on since November.


 No.98901

>>98898

So trade magic for sex? Youre supposed to teach them magic. Start a sex cult, toss me an invite.

Or just send them the right way in an interessting discussion after catching up.


 No.98902

Something obv want you to help them, you got a role to play and they might do something great because of you.


 No.98903

So tell ger whats up. "hey i Had this weird dream about you and since i've been seeing you everywhere, its creeping me out and i want to know IF you Had something similar, and IF so, i think Im menar to teach you something, what do you know about practical application of quantum physics?" >wut "magic, can you throw ghosts?"


 No.98904

Typos aside


 No.98905

>>98901

>>98902

>>98903

I saw in my dream that I teach her magic, and it works out. In all of the dreams where we do get together we get married, which is really weird.

I've had other dreams where I run into her at a bar in a few months or a year and its essentially my choice whether I want to talk with them, and from my dream I guess I can infer what happens if I do choose too talk with them.

Also If I said something about a dream I had even if she had the same one I feel like she would tell me I'm insane.

Maybe they'll contact me out of the blue like Ive seen in some of my dreams, but until then I would like to be able to focus on whats in front of me.


 No.98906

>>98905

You should summon some fire you wimp then go claim your witchwaifu.


 No.98907

>>98905

Too add even another level of strangeness I had an auditory hallucination/vision in 2012 that described exactly what is happening right now in my life.

This isn't really that spectacular considering I had that in my dreams a few times, but I was also told specifically that they are not my soulmate, but they are my twin flame.

I also heard about myself getting into magic and other stuff in this auditory hallucination, and this was before I had even heard of these concepts or believed in any of this.


 No.98908

>>TWIN FLAME

REEEEE GO GET HER, GO GET HER NOW, YOURE ALIVE NOW TO MEET HER, REEEEEEEEEEE IM SO HAPPY FOR YOU AND JEALOUS AND ANGRY CAUSE YOURE A WIMP TO SPOIL THIS ONCE IN A MILLION REINCARNATION


 No.98909

>>98906

I tried doing using elementals as described in IIH to get her too talk to me in December and my best friend died like a week or so after I started that.

I just gave up trying with magic after that.


 No.98910

>>98890

I can verify this. In the 10th grade I realized that nothing was real and therefore everything was real. I couldn't handle it and had been experiencing great anxiety during those times, so I ended up with 5 straight hours of paranoid psychosis that culminated in me calling the police at 3am because the objects in my room were trying to kill me (it could have been me trying to kill me, but because I believed it was the objects, there was no difference as to whether they had that power or not). I got put on antipsychotics but quit them after a few days because intuitively I knew there was more to it than altering my brain chemistry with drugs. That being said, it took me years before I became exposed to occult learning. I wasn't quite ready for it back then.


 No.98911

>>98908

I know I will admit I would have really liked her too talk with me, but the reasons she doesn't too my understanding is that she thought I was stalking her since she sees me everyday, and I was driving past her neighborhood.

I cleared that up to my understanding, but they also think I'm a huge drug addict, because another highschool classmate who doesn't like me got to her first and talked MAD shit about me, and shes already kinda high strung.

As much as I saw in my dreams that we get together, I feel like something is trying too keep us apart.

Me and this person getting together has almost happened twice, but that was five years ago.


 No.98912

If there are a few thousand adepts in the world, what are they all up to right now?


 No.98913

>>98908

Also yeah I did spoil it in the past by being a wimp, but I had no idea what was happening. I also heard in my auditory hallucination that it would never be as easy for me to get with her as it was five years ago. I just brushed off the whole thing at the time it made no sense to me.


 No.98914

>>98911

Call her you moron.


 No.98915

Don't let this slide or regret it for a very very long time. Good luck. World needs more love, make it happen.


 No.98916

>>98914

I would, but she would honestly just get mad at me. Her game too my understanding is that she likes to be the one too make the move. Especially if shes unsure about somebody.

Every time I do try and talk with her she blows me off, or responds to my question with a sentence that doesn't really pertain too what I was asking, and then doesn't respond to my next comment and kills the conversation.

All I've gathered so far is that she doesn't want to talk with me, because she got it in her head that I was stalking her, but I cleared that up to my understanding. She still didn't want to do anything with me though.

Despite that she'll pull up behind up at stop lights and start waving. As a person she has confused me, and I just want too move on if they don't want to do anything with me.


 No.98917

>>98916

Then be very subtle in flirting and create tension to give her the manouvering space to make that move?


 No.98918

>>98917

Well she has to sit down and talk with me first, which is something that she won't do if I ask her because I tried.

My best bet is too just get out of the car next time she pulls up behind me, or just start hanging out at the shitty bar she likes.

If I could get her too sit down with me and have a conversation I'm 99% sure she would like me, but it just didn't manifest. In my dreams I really do see that she has too contact me for it too happen at this point at least.

She probably thought my message was creepy or something. I'm really at a loss for why this person acts this way, but at the same time I get a strong feeling that I shouldn't try and contact them or they'll be so annoyed that they'll cut off communication for awhile.

I think I need to wait for her too calm down or something, but who knows when that will happen,


 No.98919

File: 6b62f823316430b⋯.jpg (79.38 KB, 640x514, 320:257, morphic fields.jpg)

can one actually change their physical being using morphic fields?

There are a few websites and few a youtube channels that claim listening to certain audio tracks can change your body similar to what binural beats claim to be able to do.

is this bullshit? thank you

source: http://enlightenedstates.com/index.php/2017/02/22/morphic-fields-create/


 No.98920

>>98919

If you sit there and doubt it and laugh about how stupid it is the whole time, nothing will change. If you sit there and think it's really working, a little might happen for a while until the doubt kicks in. If you are versed in magical systems and practices, you will know how to make it help you. If you are experienced, you won't likely benefit from the help of such practices (that is, unless you choose to).


 No.98923

>>98912

Who knows, they can do all kinds of shit, and I can atleast bet the alchemists are just busy running tests.


 No.98924

>>98912

Sitting in caves.


 No.98925

File: 8ff50d5b02d6318⋯.jpg (19.36 KB, 215x300, 43:60, franz-daughter-1950-215x30….jpg)

>>98924

Maybe not, based Frabbato made a living as a performer


 No.98930

>>98925

The slickback really is a great look.

>>98923

Alchemy in its most pure form has no experimentation. It's about forming philosohical magnets to attract factual elments and manipulating these factual elements.


 No.98931

File: 573c3584e739491⋯.jpg (7.36 KB, 256x197, 256:197, download.jpg)

What do you guys think about evocation magic? In IIH, Franz Bardon recommends that I follow all the steps before summoning anything, yet I see neophytes literally starting out with evocation all the time. What's to learn and gain from evocational practice? Is it really that dangerous? Should I just follow IIH


 No.98932

>>98930

Wow, that's a way better explanation of alchemy, thanks


 No.98933

I've known of this board for quite some time and my life is a complete shit show from my mental and physical being to everything else. I want to dive into esotericism but I don't even know what it really is to be completely honest. Is it the the understanding of the universe and the inner workings of everything? Where does magik play into all of this? I've been lurking for a week or so and this is a lot to take in I wouldn't even know where to start. Do I start with physical training or do I jump into both? What exactly is an egoist desire and why is it wrong to want it when it would better yourself? Is wanting to become a better person mentally and physically an egoist desire? What's wrong with wanting to develop a visually pleasing healthy body? There's just too many books and it's really overwhelming, I went to the diet and fitness thread and same ordeal. It's actually a really good thing but I wouldn't know where to start. Thanks.


 No.98934

>>98931

I'd follow Bardon's advice and get to at least step 8 before attempting evocation. If you read PME he explains WHY you shouldn't do evocation unless you're prepared.


 No.98935

>>98918

>>98918

I got a pretty good guess, you're not ready?

When you can have a good time, laughing with friends, in that bar, not caring if she's there or not you would be ready, that's also how most women and certainly this one seem to work.

You're not attractive unless you don't need her, and all these years of conflicting strong emotions are probably, as you say, sending out creepy vibes, women feel this very well and are great at judging body language.

First, make up your mind, what do you want? If you're indecisive you're flickering like a light on and off, ready for her, not ready, this will stress her out and make her doubt, always bend over backwards to never have a woman doubt, confidence confidence confidence, if she sees herself as a hunter she wants a worthy prey, but you're not prey, if she's the tigress you are the tiger.

LETS DO THIS, or we'll all be sad we can't share your experience when we eventually merge with God.

From personal experience, all that is needed is one good meditation that aligns you without doubt with your higher self and your true desires, things happen very fast after that.


 No.98936

>>98919

To a certain extent and limited by your skill and effort, it's definitively real and something that happens on its own, altough less noticeable that doing it manually, once kundalini frees up clogged energy pathways.


 No.98937

>>98933

What were doing is strengthening the mind, mental, spiritual, philosophical training to understand the rules that govern this world and the next, it is cultivating a connection to God source.

The body grows stronger, then there's the magical powers that come with, premonition to various degrees, being able to channel any question out and to receive the answer through it either getting crammed into your brain or clues through synchronicities, feeling and being in tune with your area and people, learning your purpose in life and walking that path with least resistance.

I'm going to write up a noob friendly tldr guide soon, maybe.


 No.98941

What does it mean to be an "observer of your thoughts"? Can someone clarify this for me?


 No.98942

>>98941

>I'm *insert negative trait*

>NO! BAD EGO! BAD, I AM NOT, I AM *insert positive trait canceling out negative trait*

Be conscious, breathe, only think what you allow yourself to think or the negative thought patterns will create loops leading to depression.


 No.98943

>>98935

Yeah that's probably an accurate assessment. Me being ready in my mind means that I have too be able too talk with them when the opportunity presents itself. I have crippling social anxiety, but this is someone who I've known for a long time, so its not as much of a factor here.

I honestly had no initial feelings for her, but after I ran into her the desire and idea that I should talk with her kind of built over about three weeks. After that I started remembering dreams I had both months and years ago describing the situation.

I never really make moves on any woman, because of my social anxiety so this was incredibly unusual for me.

I'm definitely going too try that idea, and if anyone has more suggestions I would appreciate that very much.

Also I do go to that bar sometimes with a friend, but only sparingly. I never stay long either because the staff is rude and its just a bad establishment in general.


 No.98944

>>98943

I used to have that too, you can get over it. Magic hard friend.


 No.98945

>>98944

Mine kind of comes and goes, but it mainly affects me with women.

I'll make a post here if anything happens with this in the next few months.


 No.98949

>>98943

>>98945

Present moment awareness, along with deep, rhythmic, breathing is the best way to curb anxiety imo. What I found when I was feeling anxious was 1. I was in my head and 2. I was taking very hurried, shallow breaths.


 No.98951

>>98945

Pick up on doing the yoga postures related to the chakras that govern this and try to correct them. Sometimes its as easy as making them spin.


 No.98959

>>98945

One thing that might help of your mind is flexible enough, try imagining your just talking to yourself, then extract that feeling of comfort and familiarity and just dwell on that until it becomes your current state. Or imagine holdimg a ball in the air, you're dead certain that if you let go it will fall, just focus on that feeling of certainty, but in the context of talking smoothly


 No.98962

>>98941

Rather than being in first person, step away from your Self and watch your thoughts in third person. I like to distinguish the spirit that is truly me from the named animal I live in, so I can tell which thoughts are truly my own and which are animal reactions. It has been said that anything that can be taken from you is not truly you, so your body, brain, current personality, and thoughts are not "you." Think about this for some time.


 No.98963

>>98962

"That which is immortal, partakes not of that which is mortal.

That which is mortal, cometh not into a Body immortal, but that which is immortal, cometh into that which is mortal."


 No.98971

>>98962

>step away from your Self and watch your thoughts

>anything that can be taken from you is not truly you

Something does not compute here. In the beginning you imply that your thoughts are your Self (since you need to "step away" from it to observe them) but then you state otherwise. Anyway, where do you think you go when you "step away" from your Self? If you step away and observe whatever you observe then you are creating another Self - that of an observer, from which you can in turn step away too etc. ad infinitum.

Self is not something you can step away from, because it is everything that is.


 No.98972

>>98937

I have a better understanding now, thanks.

So there is a total difference between esotericism and wizardry then, I thought they were both in the same, or would you say esotericism is a stepping stone into wizardry? What I want is to attain peak mental and physical state, is that an egoist desire and is it acheivable? I've been sitting at my computer for the past 5 years with zero brain stimulation which has left me a mind not as sharp as I'd like it to be.


 No.98975


 No.98979

>>98971

Sorry, I caught that too. Looking back at my post, I shouldn't have capitalized "self." I mean to step away from yourself as in your thoughts, because your Self ought to be something entirely separate. And when I say step away, I mean to metaphorically back up from your body, but not literally. You can look at your hands and make yourself aware that they are just an animal's hands and you have chosen to experience the world through them. I do that, and the same with my thoughts, personality, and ego. It helps greatly in reducing the experience of negative emotions and physical pain, because rather than feeling surrounded by them you are looking at them through a window, and while you still feel them, you aren't attached to them anymore and so you can decide not to be bothered by them.


 No.98981

>>98971

Literally semantics. He's saying to separate the atman and the personality to observe the workings of the mind.

Nerd


 No.98997

Dinitrogen, N≡N, N2.

_____

The Air element is the element of negation, mediation, and negotiation. I believe the N≡N molecule, dinitrogen, is the perfect representative of the philosophical nature of such an element.

N≡N is the second strongest bond of the diatomic(2 atom) molecules(earth relative to atoms). It is composed of Nitrogen, a non combusting gas, with 7 protons (The Kybalion would suggest 7 is the number of Truth).

I believe the three words to describe such a molecule would be Negation (N), Mediation (≡), Negotiation (N).

N≡N

It is also the third element of the four: Fire, Water, Air, Earth.

Negation is the Negative or Passive.

Mediation the Neutral.

Negotiation the Positive or Active.

______

Fire is the most polarizing element, as well as the most active. This makes the role of the active element least, in comparison with the passive. Fire is the +, Earth the most -.

And so, Negation is most important for preventing the destructive influences of Fire, or even undesired life-giving influences, such as sacrificing health for an ambition, if only temporarily.

The reason that Earth is not most suitable, being most passive, in preventing the destructive influences of Fire is that it is too passive to cull the Fire at its root. In other words, it is a fire proof wall in comparison to the smothering negation of Air. Do you choke the Dragon into submission or do you fortify your stoic invulnerability against its annoyances and offenses?

To put it another way:

The Sun functions by a mass of Air being turned into Earth. The only way it can sustain itself and function is by being massive enough that it PASSIVELY turns Air into Earth, from Hydrogen to in some cases Iron. Note that the negative charge of the electron is in fact the philosophical positive of the four/five elements, being the most active and least massive.

By being passive enough the Sun can sustain its existence. So it is with a human being. One must accrete their mass of Earth until the lightest elements collect around them without being cast off by lesser forces. Gravity and Mass (Earth properties) overcomes the active elements of Air, Water and Fire (and Earth itself) until there is enough Earth/Mass to make Air like Earth, Fire like Water, and Water like Air.

The Sun then is the ultimate symbol of Earth… no, the Super Massive Blackhole is the ultimate symbol of Earth, the Sun second to it.

It's no wonder the Brown pill, color of the Earth, the most "actively passifying" or negating, results in the most over-all power. Brown's shape is a sphere, representing spherical growth and movement. Those who live meditative, monk-like lives, have the greatest opportunity to take advantage of all their power and wisdom.

Becoming like the Sun or Black Sun (not necessarily how the term is meant to be used), requires long meditation, long long intensive meditation, and accretion of environmental forces/masses. Eventually one is wrapped in energy, consciousness, power, wisdom, love and courage.

And by no active force of will does the Sun or Black Sun form. Only by the gathering of passively existing things does it cross a threshold. And more often than not, perhaps exclusively, one most have a core of Earth that gathers many more times volumous a mass of Air, and must passify it to prevent this Air from ejecting itself out of its orbit.

The monk-like path is like the fusion of passive nuclei in the stars, energy emmitted by the internal tension cultivated through massiveness/gravity/weight, that the electron expresses and the proton/neutron submits to.

Most coherent, most comprehensive… that is Earth, that is the Sun.

Contributing to one's own growth… Earth, Sun, Masculine.

The Kybalion even states that the Masculine principle is the passive proton/neutron, whilst the active electron is the Feminine.

Then to be Masculine is to be Passive, but Massive; Subtly Active, over all Passive. It is also most long-term. The most done with the least effort. Men focus on the over-all. The opposite for Feminine.


 No.99000

>>98757

>Implying Alex Jones isn't a wizard

>>98770

Not sure what you mean here, but I understood what you said earlier as trying to listen to your environment but instead being distracted by spontaneous thoughts.

So yes, allow your thoughts to happen and see it as just more thoughts you observe, and then let go.

The most important part is "letting go"

People think more and more, because they pay attention to their thoughts, thus pushing the thought train so to speak.

You have to react to your own thoughts with some sort of carelessness so that you stop paying attention to them. eventually they will subside one way or another.

THEN you should be able to listen to your environment, to say the least.


 No.99005

my thoughts arent very clear and i'm barely making new memories, especially when it comes to conversations

help, my shits fucked


 No.99008

>>99005

you're panic is probably causing problems. chill out, sleep more, eat healthy. etc.


 No.99009

>>99000

Negation transforms the Active into the Passive, creating the more Massive Earth, "It Shall Be".

>>99005

Be more passive and negate your high energy. It's ejecting your awareness like a photon from an excited atom.

Communication mediates the heart and brain; Likely your throat center is over-active…. schizos all have destroyed thyroids from over-activity. negating communication between heart and mind is the solution. Fuck your mind, fuck your heart, shut them up and do it in the most passive incommunicative way.


 No.99011

What I can remember of my dream last night

>standing on patio, some kind of party is going on

>some overweight guy runs up to me and jumps at me

>somehow I know he's CIA

>cut him in half at the waist by slicing with my hand, and his face melts

>go inside to kitchen and pour some alcohol in two glasses, the person who was with me disappeared, completely empty house now

>walk deeper into house, open door to a very small dark room halfway, it's filled with boxes

>close the door and suddenly the house is very foggy like in a shower room and warm

>overcome by a sexual urge, want to fuck someone who is in the shower that i somehow know

>walk back towards kitchen

>where the drinks were on a table there is an empty space

>a woman is standing there with black hair, or maybe a highsvhool girl

>the mist/fog is gone

>girl turns towards me

>her eyes are hollow holes

>her mouth is like an infinite black hole and keeps getting impossibly wide,I feel a real feeling of legitimate fear as it gets to be half the size of her face and still growing

>wake up

Wtf


 No.99012

>>99009

>>99000

I didn't complete my thought; negate all activity… every impulse to move or think. This is Air. Air leads to Earth.

Negate all emotion, idea, perception, mind, body, existence.

Enlightenment is being so dark, heavy and passive you see the light in everything without being moved by it.

In this sense I believe negating what you observe is the aim, without jeopordizing your ability to observe so that you may follow through with the act of completely negating what you observe.

>>99005

I believe the previous paragraph will assist you. Negate all that you observe, but only so far as your act of observation is not threatened.

Wisdom and Power really come from becoming untouchable. Same with Love, it can only exist by being untouchable.

If matter and anti-matter touch, they destroy each other. If electron and proton touch, they destroy each other.

Negation, Nitrogen, The seventh element… Truth is in the impossibility of self-destruction, and preservation of its influence as well. That which is at no risk of destruction, and as well effectual in its aims, is like King.


 No.99013

>>99012

And then everything changed when the fire nation attacked


 No.99017

>>99011

Women's perceptions hold an overwhelming sway over you.

What you think is CIA is actually a mixed bag of phenomena that you realize you have no clue of the identity/causal chain of (as soon as you begin dissecting the issue that is).

As soon as you start dissecting your intoxication, you notice the amount of unexamined perceptions you've had (boxes), everything gets misty and you realize that sexual desire for women is at the biological root of your intoxication, your unfinished processing/consciousness (boxes), and the fear that arises when you identify the culprit. Her perceptions of you (women in general is my thought) are what limit and gimp you.

Let me share my own dream.

I was part of the creation of dreams. I helped create teh dynamics that led from sleep to dream, as I fell asleep, then I created teh dream spaces, one location at a time. Then I was falling deeper into sleep. I felt cybernetics in my brain like that one time I pulled my neck and damaged teh nerve, which felt like sand moving in my neck, tingling, and within a short transition I was a cybernetically enhanced soldier at war. It was a free for all. Soon enough it wasn't a war, it was a game, I was just hyper-aggressive in this game. I had to adjust quickly to the realization of my inappropriate behavior… this scenario of reacting appropriately to violence and the sudden transition of "we're not actually at war" and my need to adjust has been with me a long time in my life and my dreams. Honestly i think its the curse of a world that has marginalized reality itself, only to be gamified.

As my awareness grew dimmer, my dreams grew more meaningless and gamifyingly dissatisfying.

I'd like to add that being flexible is most essential, as is the nature of Air, of negation, of negotiation, of mediation, of meditation.


 No.99018

>>99008

yes, very panic, feel like caffein overdose

>>99009

no, that just sounds like me

>>99012

this might work. i get the concept of opposites


 No.99027

>>99017

>>99012

>>99009

>>98997

Sorry guys I was getting CIA'd/Alien'd/Parasited/programmed.

Don't negate yourself.

The aforementioned ephemereal forces must stop the flow of your bioenergy in order to insert etheric tech and manipulate your mind. They will associate personalities with pressure points in order to pavlov(?) training style teach you to shut down your own pressure points and negate your own senses.

Every moment is a war, and isolation just helps your enemies skull fuck you into submission.

It's easy to build your defenses if you're "always flowing". As long as you use every corner of your body, don't neglect nutrition intake, build your knowledge, skills and mind, and become a true wizard that studies more than 1 - 30 books, you'll be fine.

Developing skills like programming, carpentry, public speaking, guitar, builds "esoteric" energetic and mental abilities that will aid your defense and offense and utility in this multi-front war.


 No.99083

How do I do more things in less time?


 No.99095


 No.99096

>>98975

Thanks. I'm off to lurking and only asking about stuff I can't find.


 No.99097

>>99095

Damn I was hoping for time manipulation or eliminating the need for sleep or something novel like that.

This is cool too I guess. I already have an alignment of my conscious and subconscious beliefs; the critic inside me would respond to

>He who thus avoids self-discipline, and looks about for some "occult secrets" for gaining willpower at the expenditure of little or no effort on his part, is deluding himself, and is weakening the willpower which he already possesses

with hey if you achieve this alignment you will achieve infinite will power. But I suppose that willpower is meaningless without tempering the most base instincts, and these 7 rules will certainly achieve temperance. One who does not achieve alignment will have subconscious beliefs that quite simply disagree with some or all of the 7 rules making temperance an impossibility, and the conscious might never find out only attempting to discipline the self in vain.


 No.99098

Being one who seems to have figured it all out, this James Allen guy seems to know what he's talking about. I would just disagree how he says the first 6 steps leads to the 7th step to be fulfilled, being 'Control the mind' though as I implied I would say that controlling the mind is the first step to allow discipline.

Anyways, to reconcile his work to what I was saying, this is closer to what I mean about "alignment"

>Adjustment: By this time, the practical student of things divine has clearly before him every tendency and aspect of his nature, down to the profoundest promptings of his mind, and the most subtle motives of his heart. There is not a spot or corner left, which he has not explored and illuminated with the light of self-examination. He is familiar with every weak and selfish point, every strong and virtuous quality. It is considered the height of wisdom to be able to see ourselves as others see us, but the practitioner of self-control goes far beyond this: he not only sees himself as others see him, he sees himself as he is. Thus, standing face to face with himself, not striving to hide away from any secret fault; no longer defending himself with pleasant flatteries; neither underrating nor overrating himself or his powers, and no more cursed with self-praise or self-pity, he sees the full magnitude of the task which lies before him; sees dearly ahead the heights of self-control, and knows what work he has to do to reach them. He is no longer in a state of confusion, but has gained a glimpse of the laws which operate in the world of thought, and he now begins to adjust his mind in accordance with those laws. This is a process of weeding, sifting, and cleansing. As the farmer weeds, cleans, and prepares the ground for his crops, so the student removes the weeds of evil from his mind, cleanses and purifies it preparatory to sowing the seeds of righteous actions which shall produce the harvest of a well ordered life. - See more at: http://www.jamesallenlibrary.com/authors/james-allen/mastery-of-destiny/science-of-self-control#sthash.Y1ZTLYrj.dpuf

>Every man is a mind builder, whether he recognizes it or not. Every man must perforce think, and every thought is another brick laid down in the edifice of mind. Such "brick laying" is done loosely and carelessly by a vast number of people, the result being unstable and tottering characters that are ready to go down under the first little gust of trouble or temptation.

- See more at: http://www.jamesallenlibrary.com/authors/james-allen/mastery-of-destiny/mind-building-and-life-building#sthash.dZ0LO2cJ.dpuf


 No.99108

>>99097

>>99098

I quite like James Allen, but he's no occultist. I'm sure there are many ways to increase your perceived time, I just think that 24 hours per day is plenty if you can make efficient use of it.


 No.99109

File: 78cc9c1c7d9d67c⋯.jpg (1.8 MB, 2592x1936, 162:121, image.jpg)

look, i really need help with this solar plexus thing and would appreciate anything and everything, even kf you think youre wrong.

ive only eaten one real meal for half a week now.

its so full of energy i dont need to eat, i can go longer periods without eating, but as guy said in response to my please for help, its not my goal, im in a very spiritual time right now while i want to be material, i just got new job and i want to eat and bulk up to build muscles.

i could channel most if not all energy away from the solar plexus but im not sure how detrimental this would be for progress, ive never been more comfterable in my body and in social events, i carry myself more confident and proudly than ever and this recent development is the first big breakthrough in a while.

i really need to know more before i proceed.

halp.


 No.99110

>>98878

i could substitue sleep for meditation, i can during periods of spiritual exstacy go days and weeks without food, or much food but i want to eat, for muscle, not eating just keeps it flatline, no degradation, no build up.

i dont substitute meditation for sleep because i theres not enough weed in the world to make all those extra hours enjoyable.

ive read of aghori, it peaked my interesst and i searched it a little but found nothing that caught my eyes.

i do what the heart/aura does automatically consciouly, expand and gather energy, from time to time, waiting for the bus, before bed, gaming.

i think that, this was caused by the alcohol, the easy going, comfident manner in which you float around while high, i assimilated it hard and the chakra is adjuating.

i think.

before that night out with alcohol, a week prior, i had set up a circuit moving all my passion, sex, to the solar plexus.

im very sexual, a god damned fucking demogpd at sex, i dont make girls come, they get sexually enlightened, my sex drive is, was, huge, and now its a subtle part of my actions.

i hink what i think i have done is what has happened but i want and need to know more, lots more about the solar plexus.

some say its different from the stomach chakra, the 6+1 chakra system im using does that to but i can feel a distinct difference between stomach and solar plexus.

treat me like an idiot, like i dont know shit and please just throw information at me that you think might be useful.


 No.99111

get


 No.99127

im hungry ree

nasty combnation of meditations alcohol and nikotine poisionig, reee


 No.99136

>>99127

planning on joining the 27 club?


 No.99137

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I have two questions that I think I know the answer to, but haven't found a way for it to "sink in".

1. Is this physical realm the only one with bullshit?

As I understand it, when we die we enter a 'higher' realm until that sheath dissolves and we rise higher still. From here, we either chill out in whatever layer we deserve, or we continue until we join the all, repeating the whole process again when we descend and reincarnate. I ask because the astral realm seems like a place where all desires manifest, and holy shit do I need to hear that sometimes. I'm not interested in escapism or anything like that; I'm still going to do my job and continue my work. But I've lost some things, and would like more than the fading memories that they left behind. I suppose I could learn my lesson and let go of desires and worldly needs, but that seems harsh. Can't I stop and smell the roses just a little while longer?

2. What does a mighty wizard do all day?

Consider a person far further on the path than I (and possibly you). Someone full of wisdom and love (real love, not that faggy shit). What do they do when they see a world of foolish children struggling with basic problems, knowing that they have the knowledge and power to help them? If they teach, there's the whole "pearls before swine" problem. If they do nothing, how do they handle the apathy? This sort of ties into the first question in that I don't want to keep going if all that lies ahead is more hardship. I will keep going, because I feel I have to, but I'd rather the journey be pleasant.


 No.99151

>>99137

When you die everything that is mortal dies. Your memories, personality, all goals and ambitions, they all die. There is no life after death.


 No.99153

>>99151

Have any citations to back that up?


 No.99154

>>99153

he's right in that almost everything you consider to be "you" dies, only taking your long held biases and predispositions into the next life


 No.99160

>>99137

>Is this physical realm the only one with bullshit?

No

>the astral realm seems like a place where all desires manifest, and holy shit do I need to hear that sometimes.

Nope. Well yes in a way. But the whole point of having a barrier before you ascend is to temper your ego in one way or another. Just as in this realm, in the astral realm the environment depends on it's inhabitants. It's pretty much the same except there is instant thought manifestation, and direction essentially comes from your emotions.

>would like more than the fading memories that they left behind. I suppose I could learn my lesson and let go of desires and worldly needs, but that seems harsh. Can't I stop and smell the roses just a little while longer?

Not sure what you mean, but if you can astral project well enough you can time travel and completely reexperience your precious memories TONIGHT! JUST DRAW THIS SIGIL AND CALL MY NAME. FOR A LOW PRICE OF 20% OF YOUR LOOSH ok sorry. Btw the way ascension and reincarnation works you seem to have that completely figured out at least

>2. What does a mighty wizard do all day?

Depends, on what you identify with; how you choose to interpret this sense of self will result in the goals you choose, consciously or not.

>If they teach, there's the whole "pearls before swine" problem.

What's the problem? If you truly were full of love it would be unconditional, where you love the swine as much as you love everything else and yourself.

I don't see why the journey won't be pleasant, the more awareness you have the power you have to choose your reality. However pleasantness isn't always a good thing. Don't you want a challenge? Isn't the whole point of life to have a struggle? How else will you learn and grow?

>>99151

>>99154

You guys have no idea what you're talking about.


 No.99161

>>99160

>Btw the way

fuck I've been up 30 hours LOL


 No.99163

>>99161

oh fuck it's actually right. I never made a mistake, I AM INFALLIBLE oh woah what happened where am I. who was I, that was using my body fuck wish I was infallible


 No.99166

>>99160

>You guys have no idea what you're talking about.

oh so everyone reincarnates with crystal clear memories of past lives and why they're here then?


 No.99167

>>99166

Maybe everyone keeps their memories when they're physically dead, but you lose them for the duration of your physical life.


 No.99169

>>99166

>black and white fallacy

Godamn you really have to ask? You don't deserve the answer due to your lack of humility, and you will probably fail to comprehend due to your lack of fundamental understanding and more importantly a lack of desire to understand. but I will tell you anyways. for the sake of everyone else :D

What happens when you die depends on your mastery of the astral state. Actually first of all, without a physical body all that remains is the residual ethereal energies; essentially it is formless but it residually takes the form of your astral body. in the astral plane you need energy, and you can get it from connecting directly to the source (STO positive beings, angelic) or you can get it by preying on the energy of other beings (STS negative beings, demonic, predator).

This is if you can manage to stay on the astral plane which requires mastery of the astral state (like, before you die).

A lack of astral mastery means you are entirely prone to your environment. Where deities can come and ask you stuff and take you to different places, whatever you resonate with best. If you don't really resonate with anything, you might just blindly and aimlessly wander until you get sucked in by an empty vessel. Hopefully and usually this is a baby that happens to be being born/conceived (many texts, and scientific assessment (of gender development, before 7 weeks) say that it is at least around the 40th day that this happens. It may happen before but usually seems to happen after).

On the other hand, if you just wander around until your ethereal energy runs out, you simply cease to exist. Also some reports suggest that the dieties that find you can simply ask you if you want to continue living or stop existing. They probably assimilate you into them lol.

Of course, if you do have astral mastery, you can just decide for yourself and do whatever the fuck you want. Many choose to purposefully descend back to earth to help the situation on earth! The gamble is that you forget. incarnating means you have to forget. If you are really clever and resourceful you can create independent and autonomous egregores to help you out and aid you into awakening and remembering. Or you can make pacts with already existing entities.

well I think that covers the basics of the "afterlife" this afterlife realm is the astral realm, and you technically go there every time you dream (though it's usually entirely isolated from the rest of the astral realm, where you can play in your own little miniature universe inside your head)

>>99167

woah dude. that's possible if you set your own parameters when consciously choosing to incarnate back into the physical realm (as opposed to moving onto the next realm)

why do you all speak as if you are so weak and lacking in control? Develop logic and intellect and whatever you conclude to be logical will become true (or rather you discover what is true. not much of a difference really when time doesn't really exist) WE ARE GODS unless you haven't realized and activated the godspark.


 No.99170

>>99109

Your energy is from not leaving equilibrium by much. You have to exercise intensely, and get hungry from the resulting muscle damage which uses a shit ton of calories to rebuild… also tear your brain up with some dense, deep, learning. Read some heavy shit, start reasonable like you would with exercise, and go deep. Programming grows the brain like olympic fucking weight lifting so do that.

>>99137

Every realm has bull shit. Being a magic man means magically trashing what everyone tells you you should or shouldn't do. Some are rouges, others men of true civilization, all are magical.

Familiarize yourself with the concept of both "Great Works"/"Great Labors", "Legacy" and "Dick Rogue".

Don't follow that "let go of desire and worldly needs" bull shit. It's not the path of a wizard it's some shit that represents 1% of the paths.

It's an occult CULTure of conformity to arbitrary principles. ARBITRARY.


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 No.99172

>>99170

>Being a magic man means magically trashing what everyone tells you you should or shouldn't do

That is true I suppose, but it is much more than that.

>>99137

I forgot to add the important part. A true wizard of the highest order (relatively speaking) would have acheived a mastery of understanding regarding the subjective nature of morality and the objective mechanisms behind this subjective phenomena of morality

>Familiarize yourself with the concept of both "Great Works"/"Great Labors", "Legacy" and "Dick Rogue".

or you could explain it yourself if you truly understand it. if you can't explain it, it's all probably shit

>Don't follow that "let go of desire and worldly needs" bull shit. It's not the path of a wizard it's some shit that represents 1% of the paths.

>DO WHAT I SAY BECAUSE I THINK NO ONE ELSE DOES IT

smooth. You contradict yourself when you literally said this

>Being a magic man means magically trashing what everyone tells you you should or shouldn't do

>It's an occult CULTure of conformity to arbitrary principles. ARBITRARY.

yeah you are just essentially repeating what you already said

>Being a magic man means magically trashing what everyone tells you you should or shouldn't do


 No.99173

>>99160

>>99154

>>99151

>>99137

Non. Everything does not die. "Instant thought manifestation" just means that energy is more subtle so even mental operations affect the environment, to varying degrees. Nothing real mystical about it.

Mysticism is in the way for the creative, open-minded and thoughtful. Its purpose is to open a person to new possibilities by shaking the foundation of their rigid beliefs…. not an issue for ANYONE on this website… in fact, people become ultra-rigid on here from being way to uncertain on most things, and have to cling to the one piece of drift wood they have. (The ocean fucking blows by the way)

Love isn't all that important, it's just an "energy signature"… it has an intelligent purpose, and if you don't use it with intelligence you are diving head first off a cliff into the rocks below. Same with anything; it's all about Will… train your Will, so it's useable, then use it with intelligent purpose.

I'd say Ego = Will, and if you have no Ego you have no Will, or, as is the ACTUAL situation, your Ego is so fucking fluid and lacking in self-assertion and boundaries that your Will is moved rather than being the mover, either by a belief system that isn't your own or DIRECTLY by others.

That it's so difficult to find a purpose for your Will demonstrates your lack of intelligent purpose, of functional Ego, of… discernment and self-definition.

I really don't think one loses who they are after death. I'm sure that as you are, is how you shall experience the subtler realms. If you're fluid in Will/Ego, you will be transformed into your environment. If you're strong in Will/Ego/Purpose, you will be mildly changed by your environment but your character shall generally remain the same. Don't take "character" to mean something easily disassociated with like a video game or story character.


 No.99174

>>99173

wow, now this man has a wizardly understanding. I can hardly comprehend what you said due to my sleep deprivated state, but feel free to assess the validity of what I said here, along with any comments you may have

>>99169


 No.99175

>>99172

Alright I'll write something more rock solid for you, bby.

Being an individual means never wholesale swallowing principles, philosophies, or the expertise of others.

What you say about morality and its mechanisms is very true. It is in fact a matter of objective mechanisms.

Life is improved for the individual who takes the opportunity to build rapport, positive reputation, and mutual trust. Building a positive relationship with those you interact with leads to positive feedback, as its better to have friends in many places than enemies. Common sense.

In that regard, being an upstanding individual is highly rewarding. This is the root of morality. Social capital. Social ecology.

If we extend this idea to cover all the subtle entities that exist, that everything is composed of individuals, we notice the power of this approach. Good report with spirits, matter, people, machines, gov't, etc. leads to quite the "returns".

This is an objective, even selfish truth. We can't claim that a morality that isn't self benefiting to be moral, because that is all there is. The individual is an evolution from collectivism, thus morality must be selfish, but for all selves, because that is best.

There is one contradiction to this statement: Negativity is also good, selfish, moral and beneficial. It is not a collectivist morality though, it merely accepts the reality of being an individual. The responsibility of the individual is not always in accord with the collective. To reject this is to make tyrannical the collective, subjugating the individual for blind faith in the necessity of the collectives every quality, which is untrue and immoral.

This philosophy is called "Enlightened Self-interest". The Self is consciousness, and those who fear their potential (a potential that matches the potential of the universe, which is reason enough to fear) reject and dogmatically subjugate the individual to the collective.

This all leading to my point: Love means Self-love. If you don't love yourself as much as others, as in, at least 50% You, and 50% Everything Else, you are in direct opposition to the progress, development, innovation and creative proliferation of the Universe.

I don't suggest that you must constantly validate your relationship to your Ego or Will like a needy romance, but rather something unique and profound… could be brotherly, could be anonymous, could be romantic, could be friendly, could be an officer-soldier sort of thing; it's one's relationship with themself that IS the Ego… the relationship itself is not a dynamic but the dynamic is mediated by the Self between Inner Reality and Outer Reality, like balancing Universes.


 No.99176

>>99173

A simple though experiment.

If you lose all memories are you still "you"? If you somehow completely switched bodies with another person would you still be "you"? If you lost both your body and memories would you still be "you"?

If in fact the core and fundemental nature of the self can not be destroyed and remains unchanged by any physical or mental changes and dispositions than it is God, if the reverse is true all things are meaningless. Nothing in heaven can be made to change, all things on earth change.


 No.99179

>>99178

I would like to retract everything I've stated here.


 No.99180

>>99160

>Not sure what you mean, but if you can astral project well enough you can time travel and completely reexperience your precious memories

That's close to what I want, but isn't really fulfilling. Perhaps an example would help. When I was a kid, my family had this great house by a lake, and I spent many summers swimming there. Things happened, and the house is gone. Now I have new family and a tiny rescue dog, and I want to share that little lake house with them. The easy answer is to build new memories with them, but it wouldn't be the same. I want to show them MY lake house, from MY childhood. I want to share the sun with my dog on THAT hill, and eat dinner cooked on THAT grill, served on THAT table. It's a petty thing, I know, and I'll still have a great time and do all I can with them. But I have this gift that I want to give them, but can't. It would give me peace of mind to know that at some point I could. I just want a little fraction of infinity to wrap up loose ends, say all the things I didn't say, and maybe do some things I was too moral to do.

>What's the problem? If you truly were full of love it would be unconditional

Yeah, maybe I'm too involved and need to take a few steps back and laugh at people struggling in the same way I would for a cat who falls into a tub of water. Still seeing things from a mortal's perspective, I guess.

>>99173

More or less confirms what I've read and learned. I actually have a touch of experience with the "transformed into your environment" thing from a dream. That's what prompted the above example. I don't want to go to the place, I want to BE that moment. I can only see things from a human point of view, so I kind of hoped that my lack of understanding would just be hand-waved away by astral weirdness.


 No.99181

>>99176

Once you've been an individual, you cannot undo it. You could rejoin with the ocean of God but still you would be You.

Being in physical reality is like entering the weight room. Everything is dense and resists every action the Will takes.

The Will projects a model of itself into physical reality to some degree, sometimes more sometimes less, in order to train itself to become stronger. It is NOT the entire, comprehensive Will, it is a model that resonates with the will, like being in a simulation and running an exosuit. Damage is still damaging however, but mostly to the psyche since it's just a simulation in a sense.

This isn't to say that physical reality is less real, no, it's that your body isn't YOU, it's in resonance and attached to You. So even if you are cybernetically linked to an exosuit/robot, it still is an extension of you, it is still the real world; you just don't have all your eggs in one basket so to speak.

Being attached to a female body changes the entire dynamic, but you are still you.

A clear point of contension however is that you are focusing ALL of your awareness into this one vessel. In a sense, all your eggs ARE in one basket. This makes your actions of much greater consequence however, and discipline, self-control, willpower, skill, knowledge, character are under a great deal more pressure, contrast and scrutiny here.

>>99180

We only exist within our limitations. Without limitations we do not exist, we are not.

In truth all things are mortal. Immortality is relative and the truly immortal does nothing, is nothing, and permits all things to take place.

Set your limitations and never cross them. That is to exist. Existence IS boundaries/limitation.


 No.99182

Can someone fill me in on the types of magick that aliens possess and is there a way to learn?


 No.99183

>>99182

>types of magic

Bullshit occultist


 No.99184

>>99181

>Immortality is relative and the truly immortal does nothing, is nothing, and permits all things to take place.

Exactly. The trap people fall into is thinking men can become immortal. Even if you live 10^10^10^10^10^10 years that is not immortality.


 No.99185

The way people control each other is by producing energetic lifeforms/material that is absorbed by others, then manipulating that substance/lifeforms from inside the other person. "Sympathetic vibration" is "mind control worms/bugs/etc" produced by the body by either the human taking over creatures in the environment, that attempted to parasite off of them, or otherwise, and weaponizing them.

Life itself on whatever level of reality, material or immaterial, are carriers for the human will. We would lack much of our versatility without control over other forces.

The material realm is much more difficult to manifest in, yet everything that DOES manifest on this level has its mirror image in all the less material realms, but not the other way around. If you make it here, you make it in a million other realms as well.


 No.99186

>>98945

Okay I had an intense spiritual awakening of sorts in the last few days.

I realize I cannot fight or ever be afraid of this person. They are my other half to be afraid of them is to fear myself essentially.

I had an indescribable vision as well. Essentially if this happens is comes to makes everything in my life come to life. Including fringe when she brings me back here.

If I had taken her offer 7 years ago initially I would never have found this website or magic.

There would be no need as everything would fallen into place in both our lives with a sort of unconscious magic.

If this happens I could become the fearless leader everyone around me needs,

Eventually we have a fully realized relationship with what we are and it ignites all of the passion in people around us including other twin flames.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVl0rdtE9iM


 No.99187

>>99186

>to be afraid of them is to fear myself essentially.

This literally applies to every person.


 No.99188

>>99169

>why speak like a weakling

Assuming that I'm right about things creates barriers in my learning. Also I have a history of psychosis, so I don't want to just assert that something is true in a public discussion only because of my own intuition.


 No.99189

>>99187

No its way different than that. I don't even want to describe it, because its so personal.

Also everyone I know personally right now I realize I have known in a past life.

I see us all hanging out as friends as we do now, but in many lives in many lifetimes and at many different ages.

One of my friends just got inducted into a sex cult. I gotta talk with another and him to help get him out.

I feel like this happened before somehow like history is repeating itself literally.


 No.99191

>>99189

The fact that you haven't even asked yourself if these are just normal delusions makes me think you're schizo 🤔


 No.99192

>>99111

Check'd m8


 No.99193

File: 346b005595bf40e⋯.png (200.27 KB, 1794x939, 598:313, immortality.png)

Any tips on, literally becoming fucking immortal. I hear all the time about those adept cultivators who live deep in the asian wilderness meditating for 1000's of years. I've read the screencap on immortality, but I'd like to know of any sources so that I could really study this in depth, because how am I ever gonna master every branch of magic without having atleast a good 3000 years to work at it? Any advice appreciated desu


 No.99198

>>99193

There are a number of ways. But the easiest and simplest way to effect the physical is through physical means. Unite Sol, Luna, and Earth using the Menstruum which is the air of air and is made from the firery water of man. Even the proximity of this philosphical magnet will halt corruption of the body.

Or if that's too hard for you just equilibrilize the elemental forces within your body and increase your vital energy.


 No.99200

File: 76332fd91a28f87⋯.pdf (6.59 MB, Lu Kuan Yu - Taoist Yoga -….pdf)

>>99188

>>99189

Yeah not good to base your beliefs on intuition. Any belief, really…. should be based on verification. Like.. science. Magic should be a process of elimination and study, sifting through the trash for insight.

Verificationism is a way of life and mind. Reality check 99% of the time, in a non-detrimental way.

Honestly if you have scientific knowledge and believe you can use intention to do things, you have MORE than enough material to be a greater wizard than ANY of those who just study shit online or whatnot. The actual point is that you can use intention to direct your energy to do anything, and it's not ENERGY like some specific thing; it's all physical phenomena whatsoever. Thus the man who knows all about the scientific knowledge there is knows he can create a holographic computer and overlap it with the physical computer to have it run better and possibly run programs by thought alone. He can create subtle energy capacitors, batteries, weapons, machines, inventions of all sort, WELL BEYOND the simple bull shit occultists do.

MAGIC is just math, physics, chemistry, biology, psyche…. and then beyond that power diminishes and is more about divinity, soul, spirit, humanity, love and inspiration.

The latter is about potential, the previous is kinetic. To manifest, you must direct your psyche/spirit/soul/void towards DIRECT manifestation and the DIRECT perception of how the world works in actuality, not just what it MAY be but what it ACTUALLY is; with mathematical precision if you can.

Give purpose to power with soul, spirit; acquire power with accurate verified knowledge; discover secret power, purpose and knowledge in the cryptic and muddled texts that most wizards read.

IMMORTALITY STUFF IN PDF


 No.99202

>>99200

great post, checked


 No.99203

>>99188

>Also I have a history of psychosis, so I don't want to just assert that something is true in a public discussion only because of my own intuition.

what? why is that bad? what's wrong with psychosis? exposing logic (or the lack of) behind delusions itself can be insightful into the phenomena of delusions or psychosis or whatever


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 No.99213

If ive been personally visited by my patron diety do i still need initiation by some obullshitist guru?

why even need initiation by guru, cant i open my own energypaths?


 No.99214

solar plexus issue somewhat solved. its settling.

it was a mix of everything, an overpowered solar plexus and other chakras running average, dampened by alcohol gave solar plexus room to fully develop.

focusing on it its like a sphere of yellow glass with frosted coating like crackled magma. now one of my most visually responsive chakras.

since this began ive been continously and only breathing using the diaphragm, intestines work better cause theyre getting massaged with every breath, heart and breath is more stable, energy levels peaking.

im going to have to recalibrate root, i now walk wmuch more force in my step, determination for no reason and my root was heavily influenced by water and air previously, a light, carefree step, im going to have to infuse more fire if i wnt to balance root and solar plexus.

not posting this to attentionwhore, im explaining where i am and how to solve it so that you can do the same.

i think ill need to cook up some new affirmations to boot.


 No.99215

synchronicities are awesome.

thanks for being here fellow posters.


 No.99216

>>99200

Thx4book

>>99203

>why is that bad?

Because I also have an anxiety disorder and at any given moment I could snap and believe that somebody wants to kill me. It's happened before. Pairing that with recurring dreams and sexual fantasies as well as the things I have done during psychotic episodes of the past, and I am unsafe to be around. Mental disorders are not fun and games, my own therapist worries I could end up on the news one day.

>inb4 therapy is bad

It's because of her that I'm a functioning member of society and have been able to go on without brain-wrecking antipsychotics or hospitalization.


 No.99219

>>99109

if you are not hungry, you don't need food. exercise even with no good. an intense connection to the source can allow many great things. you say you want to be material but you can be spiritually material. do not underestimate yourself

>>99173

wouldn't that make energy more extreme/powerful/direct, as opposed to subtle? not sure what definition of subtle you're using there

but love is the source of all emotion and thus energy, one way or another. but purely in the positive sense. But yea energy needs direction and guidance by intellect through the use of willpower. love/emotion/energy and intellect/intelligence is equally important. Not sure where willpower comes into place. I think willpower is the result of a well guided energy? Or isn't guidance itself due to willpower? So is intellect directly causing willpower? How does one explain high intellect and no willpower? No energy for will to power? Dude, WILL+POWER=INTELLECT+ENERGY

but then there's purpose and goals and motivation. does having intellect and emotion/energy automatically mean you have purpose?

does bias and opinion and personality come from intellect? NO. DUDE YOU ARE SO RIGHT. IT COMES FROM EGO.

so what the fuck is the ego. it's in the mind/soul.

It seems, the ego is literally an illusory construct due to the interaction of intellect and emotion. man that is so trippy. what is emotion then? energy of course. energy combined with intelligence, results in ego. and when the ego is completely refined and aligned with intellect and has access to all energy, then do you get wisdom

oh your way of using subtle is relative to physical reality. the astral is only subtle to us because we aren't there yet (not to mention how it subtly influences physicality).

Still sounds really weird to say that energy is more subtle in the astral. Perhaps one can say, from the perceptive of physicality, there is direct physical energies and subtle energies. but from the perspective of the astral, there would be astral energies and subtle energies from more physical processes AKA ethereal energies.

astral realm | ethereal energy| physical realm

that's the functional stack of reality. what I am figuring out right now is, so humans have physical bodies, and astral bodies they use when dreaming and etc.

But when dying you lose your physical body, but my intuition tells me you also lose your astral body? not sure why. the astral body feeds of etheric energy produced in the physical body?

Ok so when you die, the residual etheric energies weakly fuel the astral body. Okay it's just that before dying, the astral body tends to be much more rigid mirroring the physical body, due to ethereal circulation of physical body, but after dying there is no rigidness and no circulation and no more physical mechanisms, so everything becomes formless only limited by your mind/soul which is a ethereal construct with astral mechanisms. At first there is residual form from residual ethereal flow allowing the astral body to retain some semblance of what you were before dying. cool everything makes sense now


 No.99220

>>99183

>types of magic

>Bullshit occultist

You seem to think you know, so lets hear it.


 No.99222

>>99219

>one way or another. but purely in the positive sense.

should have removed that.

love the way we thinketh, is the purified positive emotion,. positive emotions are directed outwardly

negative emotions are directed inwardly. this happens by taking energy/love and just continually cycling it. that sounds pretty neutral actually.

so what is negative emotion? perhaps it is dissonance. broken ego. this isn't just cycling, this is contrasting energies at war.

Does this imply that having a refined and aligned ego guarantees positivity? not at all. only that there will be no negative emotions

there is also negative love, which is not a negative emotion per se (like hate or greed). in this context, negative comes entirely from the goals that are decided. STS vs STO, selfishness vs selflessness. of course enlightenment is all about balance. you need both, like a yin yang thing. However don't consider the whole thing. balance doesn't necessarily imply 50/50. to be completely selfish you need to have some level of cooperation. and to be completely selfless you need to at least help yourself to allow development for capacity to even be able to help others.

yin has a little yang, and yang has a little yin.


 No.99223

>>99175

Brilliant post, but I can't comprehend what this means

>The individual is an evolution from collectivism

hooooly shiiiit I just figured it out. when you realize that identity is subjective, and you decide to identify with ALL of humanity. You start being selfish FOR humanity

>To reject this is to make tyrannical the collective

once I figured out the semantics as it sunk in. WOOAAHHH

> If you don't love yourself as much as others, as in, at least 50% You, and 50% Everything Else

I think this is an oversimplification. Love is infinite, and you should infinitely love everything. Because when you identify with humanity, the sense of self and love of self all goes towards humanity.

But maybe you are right. I'm under the impression that you only need to be selfish enough to have the capacity to be selfless. But maybe you should be a little more selfish than that? But then what are the parameters? How do you define 50/50? Significance itself can become subjective

>it's one's relationship with themself that IS the Ego

Hmm I think the semantic issue of ego arises here. I equate the self/subconscious with the ego. a thread here about whether one should kill the ego or not, got completely derailed with a very confusing discussion of etymology, in attempts to reconcile (or rather conflate, depending on who was talking lol) the definitions of the latin word ego and the english word ego…

This can get really trippy real fast.So I think when you said Ego here you may have actually meant soul or mind. So there are three things here. What one identifies with aka sense of self, subconscious aka self aka ego, and the relationship between these two things resulting in the mind aka soul.

Fuck semantics is fucked up now. So this relationship resulting in mind/soul, can be badly described as between the sense of self, and the self. lol. whatever

The sense of self, what one chooses to identify with; most people identify with their subconscious/ego/self, or whatever they think is cause of thoughts. So the relationship is more of a static infinite loop when you identify with your self/subconscious. The mind/soul becomes egotistical.

When you get a solidified sense of self, when you solidify your identity with something,.. it's almost like you are identifying with your goals. And your mind/soul exists between your ego and your goals.

Anyways, we've ignored the elephant in the room. If you can identify with anything, you can identify with trees or whales or dragons or sexual attack helicopters… lol.

Many identify with Gaia; identifying with, respecting and loving the earth, this can perhaps allow access to abundance. Because humanity ain't got abundance I don't think


 No.99224

>>99176

>If in fact the core and fundemental nature of the self can not be destroyed and remains unchanged by any physical or mental changes and dispositions than it is God, if the reverse is true all things are meaningless

Why not both.jaypeg

This is the nature of subjective phenomena. Objectively it is meaningless, but one's subjective sense of self results in meaning. The self is only god if it accepts the fact. Belief creates reality and all that

>>99179

now I am wildly curious

>>99180

get rich and buy it back. or make an identical one. If you want to have new experiences then it is completely in your power. Alternatively you can all have a shared dream or something but that's not very practical

Regardless, you should screw around in lucid dreams.

A mortal with great humility can laugh at others but it's more like with others. Hahaha I can relate shit sucks yo gg wp rip press f for respects

>>99181

what about losing all sense of self and joining the 'all' or the void or emptiness, or whatever the heck absolute nirvana is supposed to mean. also what about being assimilated into another entity.

also I think you are conflating immortality with highest reality, or ultimate unification.Truly becoming God in the absolute sense. You will cease to exist. God is nothingness

>>99182

aliens don't exist except in the nonphysical realm. they are jealous of us because we can freely enter the nonphysical realm and physical realm. anything they can do we can do (better)

magick is manipulation of nonphysical energy to influence the physical universe. if you truly believe in something with your heart soul mind subconscious, it will become reality. however directly editing subconscious beliefs is literally impossible except for the most expert wizard. praying and other spiritual/religions/occultic practices (sigils) are just proxies to edit these subconscious beliefs

>>99184

you might as well be. would probably want to end your existence much before that as one permanently becomes tired.

>>99185

> If you make it here, you make it in a million other realms as well.

now that is an interesting way of looking at things. supports my idea of the demons and entities being so jealous of the great beings that are human

>The way people control each other is by producing energetic lifeforms/material that is absorbed by others, then manipulating that substance/lifeforms from inside the other person. "Sympathetic vibration" is "mind control worms/bugs/etc" produced by the body by either the human taking over creatures in the environment, that attempted to parasite off of them, or otherwise, and weaponizing them.

what

>>99186

implying fearing yourself is always a bad thing. balance is key. In fact, fearing yourself is literally the only thing you should really fear. On a side note this reminds me of a hindi film karthik calling karthik

>how am I ever gonna master every branch of magic without having atleast a good 3000 years to work at it

there is only one magic and there's no learning about it. Logically and thoroughly understand the nonphysical (and the physical for that matter) realm and magic will become second nature.

btw everyone is essentially immortal. Why do you want to stay in your body forever. that's boring. you will want a new vessel eventually.If you meditate for thousands for years, you literally do nothing but sit there for thousands of years. is that what you want? lawl

>>99198

>muh meaningless buzzwords

>>99188

>Assuming that I'm right about things creates barriers in my learning

yes assumption is bad. but pretending is GREAT. you need suspension of disbelief and ability to chance perspective at will for effective thought experimenting. Don't assume but make axioms and pretend they are true only for the moment. remember einstein invented all of relativity sitting on his as in the basement for a few years

>>99216

anxiety and many problems in life come from limiting beliefs. be aware of your subconscious beliefs and make sure they are aligned. At the very least learn to stop giving a fuck in the sense that since you care about nothing you don't mind just stopping what you do and sit down and chill somewhere, if you have to. and if your beliefs are aligned you're body will be more likely to listen to you after neutralizing 'cognitive dissonance'

>>inb4 therapy is bad

no god no. what's bad are pills, psychiatrists that shill for big pharma. therapy is literally everything. preferably if you could do selftherapy as opposed to paying a stranger. The entire journey into self awareness and of enlighten,ent, all of it is essentially selftherapy


 No.99227

>>97622

Bumping again

How do I program servitors to memorize what I read, see or hear in an instant?


 No.99228

>>99220

once youre advanced enough you dont do workings or sigils or whatever, your every breath is magic, your intuition is integrated with your other senses, youre operating on a whole new level, like an OS upgrade.

other than everything to your question, they have a very powerful third eye able to send and recieve thoughts and emotions in a waking non trance state.

that said, greys are thought to be automatons or bodysuits, workerbees.

and its thought they dont have emotion, meaning their workings are lacking and are percieved as an intensity of will, very clean or non human/psychopathic.

i know some more but i want specific questions.


 No.99229

>>99228

they are biological robots aka organic portals for the reptilians I heard


 No.99231

Can someone explain to me how to observe my thoughts as described in step 1 of IIH? What am I supposed to be doing?


 No.99237

>>99229

thats the rumor but we dont know if they have a consciousness of their own that gets repressed when that happens or if theyre actual robots, "robots"


 No.99240

>>99224

>anxiety and many problems in life come from limiting beliefs

This is probably true. Magic and occult stuff has been a gamble for me, but overall it's improving my mental condition.

>what's bad are pills

I completely agree, and I can say from experience that atypical antipsychotics are terrible. The problem is that if I can't fix my shit this summer, meds and/or hospitalization will be considered so I don't pose a risk to myself and others. I've done self-therapy consistently for years with the help of a companion thoughtform, but the therapist I know has known me since I was a child so it's not like she's a stranger or anything. She knows shit that not even my parents or closest friends know.

>>99231

Many people's thoughts run wild in their minds and overcome them with emotion. Your goal should be to observe without becoming invested or worried, as if you were reading them in a book rather than being one of the characters. Passively create thoughts rather than doing so actively. Let them chain together and flow around you instead of through you. Don't create the thought that follows another, just watch to see whatever thought comes up circumstantially. And when it does, don't do anything, just take note of it and let it come to pass.


 No.99243

>>99240

>The problem is that if I can't fix my shit this summer, meds and/or hospitalization will be considered so I don't pose a risk to myself and others.

well that's a real fucking reason to have anxiety. you don't have limiting beliefs causing it, it's the fact that they are trying to turn you into a product of the pharma system! Your limiting beliefs are that you think you have to obey them. gtfo out there. put a fake personality and fuck your therapist. ahem *reads rest of your post

Therapists are under a confidentiality agreement. This is allowed to be breached it the patient is potentially a harm to others or themselves. Any potential of harm means intimidation into their slavery (more than you already are anyways)

I'm sure she's a nice person and everything, but this is literally a part of a job. Nice people can be dumb and not realize they are brainwashed to be shills. We are all victims of society. meaning the JOOOS illuminati "globalist" STS cock suckers


 No.99254

>>99243

I don't think you understand though, I am a danger to others. My parents are afraid of me, professionals think I'm a few steps away from being a psycho cannibal killer. I have dreams at night about hunting, killing, and eating people. I disconnect from others incredibly easily whenever I'm overwhelmed. I have episodes of psychosis where I think somebody is trying to kill me and I act out in dangerous self defense. This isn't Big Pharma trying to get me down, this is a woman I know well giving me a chance to get better on my own and telling me in all transparency that more serious actions could be taken to prevent me from ending up on the news, and that she isn't taken those actions as of now because she trusts me. Not everything is an act of malice, because beneath the ZOG and the billionaires there are honest workers who just want to do what they love and study what they're interested in. All things considered, she's been pretty lenient with me. My homework is to spend more time with friends, gain weight, sleep better, and have sex. It's transparency much more than it is threat, especially considering I was not coerced into telling her any of the details she knows. I appreciate your concern for me, but I disagree with your black-and-white views.


 No.99255

>>99254

https://youtu.be/kJTlKBZmi_k

listen on loud but not loud enough the sound is distorted.

you balance the lower and youll be fine.


 No.99257

saw this posted on GLP by someone

"He put some type of blocks in. I am blind in my mind's eye. I can no longer visualize. It's black. I often wondered if a hypnotherapist who knew what they were doing could fix the damage and take out the blocks. When I came to he was on top of me holding me down. He said it took 45 minutes to get me calmed down."

What do you think? Any way to undo this?


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 No.99262

>>99261

Godlikeproductions

and I am thinking burned out third eye


 No.99263

>>99257

and no thats a nasty curse, i could fix it but i would need to feel out the third eye, brain blood vessels, energy/bloodflow in order to correct it, if that not possible, tough fucking luck.

we talled about this earlier or in the last question thread with anon who couldnt feel energy anymore.

my best suggestion is to do the working instinctively, focring it without feeling it, getting protective crystals, salt baths, sage, crystal that sucka bad energy out and breathing black into it even if you cant feel for shit, a legit practitioner cleansing you, protection mantras, durga, hanuman, and last shiva, please with your everything, surrender before God and give a damn good argument as for why he should help you.


 No.99265

t9 is fun. you can understand it if you try, i wo t fix.


 No.99266

>>99257

>>99263

What do you even have to do to get cursed like that? How would somebody lay down a curse like that?


 No.99267

>>99262

why do you suspect a self inflicted burnout if another person is involved?


 No.99268

>>99266

i wont tell, fuck you.


 No.99269

>>99267

It was some kind of hypnotherapy, it seems -> could be made to do something under the influence


 No.99271

>letting someone hypnotize you


 No.99272

>>99257

I know a bipolar girl (read: a girl) who claims to have this disorder that causes some small percentage of people to have no visualization capabilities at all. She's a Protestant Christian so it's not like she needs her mind's eye anyways, but even reading books she doesn't picture the events in her head. I don't remember what it was called or what people claim causes it though.

>>99255

Thanks, I'll look at it later tonight.

>>99266

"Hocus pocus, ground to sky

Cast some mud to shut an eye

Where my foe once ghosts could see

Now burnt blind for years he'll be

Block his path with endless mist

And in his anus, insert a fist."


 No.99273

>>99272

woah there, riddles are magic of high order, cunt, you almost cursed me and most assuredly some here.

verbal loops looping in on themselves making for a much more powerful etheric representation.


 No.99274

rhymes*


 No.99275

10/10 curse.


 No.99278

>>99228

Do you think an adept human could take on a reptilian in 1v1 magical combat?


 No.99279

never read things lile that in a receptive state of mind, or while subconsciously channeling, its enough that a name pops up in your head, youll need to add some power, but damage has been done, wheather you like it or not, and thats on your karmic account.


 No.99280

I think fapping is making me suicidal and lazy.


 No.99281

>>99278

i dont know.


 No.99282

File: c1e3e4787915e7a⋯.png (167.13 KB, 365x431, 365:431, fugg.PNG)

>>99271

Well, no shit.

But that does not help this person anymore.

Ah well

Will do what I can

Thanks for the replies


 No.99283

and i dont want to answer either because theres only one way to find out and i rather not.


 No.99287

>>97847

Hey. It's me again. The one who lost hope.

How does this exactly work? I'm not a fan of cough medicine, but would jimson weed do?


 No.99289

out of all advice you would go with that?


 No.99290

>>99224

>aliens don't exist except in the nonphysical realm.

So how do I make contact with them? Do I have to go full astral turf in order to interact with them?


 No.99291

>>99254

Why are you a danger to others? I suspect it is subconscious beliefs that you are not aware of, stemming from subconscious skepticism of the honesty of the warnings and suspicion that these warnings are inherently exaggerated.

And btw, the way you say

>I am a danger to others.

Well no fucking shit. If you believe you are, then OF COURSE you are.

>professionals think I'm a few steps away from being a psycho cannibal killer.

Well duh. They make the most profit She's not making this conscious connection obviously, but what has happened is that she has been indoctrinated to believe is based on this. She will misrepresent your problems without realizing it, just because that's the method she was taught and she believes it to be based on logic and facts. It's literally a requirement of the job (and only the very smart, intellectual, and pure of heart are able to circumvent the hidden embedded nefarious job requirements)

>I have dreams at night about hunting, killing, and eating people. I disconnect from others incredibly easily whenever I'm overwhelmed.

Normal. And when you dissociate from your body, your subconscious takes over.

>I have episodes of psychosis where I think somebody is trying to kill me and I act out in dangerous self defense.

This is from the exact same subconscious belief that I suspected, or at least implications from it that run wild in your subconscious. Paranoia is just perceiving potential realities. If you are perceiving it, your subconscious thinks it's logical. And as fringewizards have found out, subconscious beliefs create reality.

If you aren't aware of something, it exists in a probability of many possibilities, and when you interact with it the probability collapses onto one of the possibilities. This is quantum mechanics.

>This isn't Big Pharma trying to get me down, this is a woman I know well giving me a chance to get better on my own and telling me in all transparency that more serious actions could be taken to prevent me from ending up on the news, and that she isn't taken those actions as of now because she trusts me. Not everything is an act of malice, because beneath the ZOG and the billionaires there are honest workers who just want to do what they love and study what they're interested in. All things considered, she's been pretty lenient with me. My homework is to spend more time with friends, gain weight, sleep better, and have sex. It's transparency much more than it is threat, especially considering I was not coerced into telling her any of the details she knows. I appreciate your concern for me, but I disagree with your black-and-white views.

You are stupid. I already said this.

>>I'm sure she's a nice person and everything, but this is literally a part of a job. Nice people can be dumb and not realize they are brainwashed to be shills. We are all victims of society.

My own parents are brainwashed into propagating ignorance that creates terrorists (we are muslim). Just like anyone that says ISIS is not Muslim. It's a complex and nuanced issue that I won't get into right now, but the point is things are never as simple as they seem.

Since she is not family, there is no point to get her to realize the true cause of actions and other enlightening concepts. You have to truly be an expert in psychology, or happen to have learned on your own, about the fact that all actions come from intention one way or another. This is not made obvious at an academic level, but it is there in theories of psychology.

The most important thing I will tell you is this: any action that you do, that confuses you because you do not know why you (or your body) does these actions, this means that you have subconscious beliefs hidden inside of you (that at the very least, contradict your conscious beliefs).

Anyways man, don't kid yourself. Did you tell your therapist about your "companion thought form"? If you did, then maybe you are close enough to explain this shit. If not (which is almost certainly the case), this shows that you simply cannot tell her about such complex things (because, for one thing it would be a giant waste of time).

This is why I said put on a "fake persona" or at least a fake attitude, and lie to her that all the panic attacks and related alarming phenomena are happening less and less.

If I am right about your subconscious beliefs, then the alarming phenomena will stop by itself when your therapist stops getting worried.


 No.99292

Or fine, don't take the easy route. Just go meditate already damn. Observe your thoughts and in the same way that I said the most important thing, I will say it again but for thoughts to help you understand your subconscious while you meditate.

Even any thought that you have, that confuses you because you do not know why you (or your subconscious) would deliver you such thoughts, means that you have subconscious beliefs hidden inside of you (that at the very least, contradict your conscious beliefs). So when you identify a foreign thought, and when you absolutely are at a loss for behavior, then just apply logic to your past experiences and personality and make up a belief you could have had without realizing it, and then overwrite the belief with another (or accept it into your conscious if is actually rational).

FYI you are not your thoughts, you are the perceiver and decision maker that receives and acts on thoughts from your subconscious. This information is what every therapist should know but probably don't.


 No.99295

Is Reiki legit?


 No.99298

>>99257

>He put some type of blocks in. I am blind in my mind's eye. I can no longer visualize. It's black.

That's bullshit he's roleplaying. If it's not the person's subconscious has been invaded, and that can only happen through implicit consent (by a wizard well beyond anyone anyone here I suspect. It's more likely an astral entity with great etheric strength.)

Anyways, obviously he should meditate and balance chakras. Are you him? Are you trying to help him? Can't help if there's no feedback from the victim.

Here's some advice from a great childrens show

>The sixth pool of energy is the light chakra, located in the center of the forehead. It deals with insight and is blocked by illusion. The greatest illusion of this world is the illusion of separation. Things you think are separate and different are actually one in the same.

>We're all connected. Everything is connected.

Or/Also try alternative therapies (literally google that. I just did since I couldn't remember the name of) like Reiki. I don't think acupuncture is legit, or if it was wouldn't help. But there are many other interesting ones. He should do his own damn research though. Whatever happened was his fault.

One has to ask how he was blocked. If it was a physical attack then maybe

According to my cursory research maybe it's related to Dim Mak

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touch_of_Death

>Chi blocking resembles the martial arts technique, Dim Mak, which purports to kill or maim by disrupting the body's flow of internal energy.

>Qigong (氣功) (sometimes spelled Chi Gung), a form of traditional Oriental medicine, uses similar techniques and pressure points to help others' chi flow more easily and is considered a standard medical technique in Chinese hospitals.

>Chi blocking also has some connections to varma kalai, an ancient martial art of Southern India.

Or how does he even know that someone else put a block on him? Maybe he had a stroke, or is just retarded and delusional.

>>99265

what

>>99268

troll?

>>99272

>I know a bipolar girl (read: a girl) who claims to have this disorder that causes some small percentage of people to have no visualization capabilities at all. She's a Protestant Christian so it's not like she needs her mind's eye anyways, but even reading books she doesn't picture the events in her head. I don't remember what it was called or what people claim causes it though.

Yes, but it doesn't occur spontaneously. Actually yea it could from a stroke.

>>99278

Reptilians are fucking pussies and jealous of human capability

>>99273

>>99279

Well why do you even have an enemy? Make peace and friends with everyone. We are all victims of society. Even the most evil cocksucker is surely a victim of manipulation and delusion caused by demons

>>99283

what

>>99287

He was probably referring to DMX. If you drink at least half a bottle you will enter a dream state where you no longer can tell if you are dreaming or not, for like 5 hours. Make sure the bottle doesn't have any other active medicinal ingredients, shit like acetaminophen will permanently damage your kidney.

Why don't you do acid, or shrooms or smoke some dmt instead?

DMX, Datura, Salvia, these are deliriants. Better to do hallucinogens, they at least have natural euphoria. Delirants just induce extreme psychedelic dissociation from reality, while hallucinogens are a lot more grounded and just make you think and see crazy stuff though your sense of self should remain intact throughout. It's a fine line actually; I've had ego death from salvia and shrooms and lsd so idk. salvia was super fucked though, ego death is nothing, I thought reality and all existence ended.

>>99290

pretty much. Any interaction (or rather, immersion) with nonphysical phenomena can allow possible for contact. If you enter a trance state, like through meditation, contact is possible. Look into channeling if you like.

Or do drugs. That always works if you have the intention before hand.


 No.99299

>>99298

>DMX

DXM*


 No.99303

>>99299

>Why don't you do acid, or shrooms or smoke some dmt instead?

I've tried and yes. These help me SEE but not control anything. Perhaps Datura aka jimson weed could clear some heagy blockages from my mind.

Btw. Why is this board suddenly so lively?


 No.99305

>>99303

>not control anything

What do you mean?


 No.99311

>>99305

DMT and LSD cause involuntary OBEs, a shortcut/crutch you can use instead of being a real wizerd


 No.99314

>>99311

They are involuntary if you do not remain calm. DMT is literally what causes dreams (inferred speculation do the research into melatonin serotonin and pineal gland). It's only the high concentration.that doesn't let you react causing involuntariness. Try microdosing, and look into potentiating it with an MAOI to make it go from 15 minutes to 5 hour dmt trip. That's how ayahuasca works


 No.99315

>>99311

Are yoiu implying deliriants like Datura somehow are more voluntary? They are almost certainly more involuntary than psychedelics (on average)

look into the usage of enthogens for spiritual work


 No.99317

>>99290

but thats wrong


 No.99318

>>99295

yes but they have energy aids and spread it.


 No.99319

>>99298

dont bother trying to get my posts, i havent bothered reading yours, ok i read some and skimme through more but im not going there, were on way different wavelengths.


 No.99320

makes me wonder how you are irl.


 No.99321

unfortunate, you seem like a fun guy to talk to.


 No.99322

>>99319

>dont bother trying to get my posts

I do what I want nigga


 No.99324

>>99303

were nearing the event horizon. soon.


 No.99326

>>99219

I was speaking about where mental operations are significant events, aka subtle realities aka aetheric or whatever the fuck. Physical is least subtle (could be even less subtle), then emotion then intellect.

Ego is the software of the physical, it allows you to navigate and interface with reality. In truth it's all physical, more or less. You have an ego in the astral, or aetheric. You have an ego in the most spiritual. You never don't have an ego, you just default either to one kind or the other.

As you're in a material existence, you would be wise to default to your material ego.

Everything you're /trying/ to do or not do, is like trying to drive somewhere while attempting to rationalize not needing the wheels, or windshield, or doors, etc.

Stop obsessing with death or life after death. Take a step back and realize you are having a strong emotional reaction to your mortality and it's fucking up your life.

Don't worry about conceptual balance, you're approaching this shit top heavy as fuck and that's why you're constantly trying to "recalibrate" and "rebalance"… because when you're not rooted into the ground and your mass is above the halfway point, you'll fall over AGAIN AND A-FUCKIN-GAIN.

So keep your center of mass below the middle…. weight the physical, Earth, and keep the conceptual and emotional inquiry light.

In chakra terms, the Root is the center-point. Not the bottom, the middle. I don't know about chakras below that, but I know it's The Foundation in Kabbalah, and The Kingdom is between the feet.

Focus on red, which has psychological significance in an archetypical or biological way. Then, focus on infrared (heat your own body mentally, take cold showers and heat your shit up under it, etc), think long term not short term, don't jump around to different ideas, stick to one and don't contradict yourself when you assert a conclusion on something… as a man thinketh, and thinketh in one direction not all directions.

Talking about energies and realms is useless if you dont' actually know what they are, or aren't connecting all the different texts that connect to the same topic. An analysis or meta-analysis. You can't know what something is without taking it apart and with sure-footedness, going step by step, never falling back because you didn't jump ahead of what you can know. Verification.

Schizos (as everyone on this site would be percieved) have fucked up thyroids. Utterly destroyed. Over-ionization of the throat, of creative expression. As well, schizos have abnormal gene/gene expression of the group of genees associated with technical/artistic creativity, leadership and religion. Non-ionize your creative expression by avoiding the ionizing activities of the brain… and if metabolism correlates to ionization, avoid the heart, kidneys and liver as well. Heart and kidneys might be even worse in this respect, being more metabolically active.

Trash the entire subject, just fucking read about it and take notes without any conjecture, ideas, reinterpretations or any of that. Keep it Root, long wavelength, non-ionizing, infrared, material, direct current, etc No infinity/god/universal shit. Keep it finite as fuck (faf). Tape that somewhere, FAF.


 No.99327

>>99273

You must fucking hate Goethe.

>>99291

Don't prop your fallacious belief system by undermining other's efforts to get better.

>>99298

Please none of this "consent" shit. Who is saying this crap, Montalk? The illusion of separation crap as well. It's not enlightening, it's bullshit. The reptilian stuff has to stop as well, I don't get why it's a thing on here.

Belief doesn't create reality. Reality creates beliefs. Reality creates you.


 No.99329

>>99326

>Everything you're /trying/ to do or not do, is like trying to drive somewhere while attempting to rationalize not needing the wheels, or windshield, or doors, etc.

>Stop obsessing with death or life after death. Take a step back and realize you are having a strong emotional reaction to your mortality and it's fucking up your life.

What the hell are you talking about lol. I was exploring my curiosity and doing thought experiment using logic while typing that post.

>keep the conceptual and emotional inquiry light.

Why?

>Focus on red, which has psychological significance in an archetypical or biological way. Then, focus on infrared (heat your own body mentally, take cold showers and heat your shit up under it, etc), think long term not short term, don't jump around to different ideas, stick to one and don't contradict yourself when you assert a conclusion on something… as a man thinketh, and thinketh in one direction not all directions.

Why? You implying I made a contradiction but don't point it out?

>Talking about energies and realms is useless if you dont' actually know what they are

But I do

>or aren't connecting all the different texts that connect to the same topic

Fuck texts all you need is intellect. Texts are supplementary.

>Trash the entire subject, just fucking read about it and take notes without any conjecture, ideas, reinterpretations or any of that. Keep it Root, long wavelength, non-ionizing, infrared, material, direct current, etc No infinity/god/universal shit. Keep it finite as fuck (faf). Tape that somewhere, FAF.

Why the fuck would I do that? I am an infinite being, and so are you. If you want to have limiting beliefs go ahead but don't drag me into it.

What's all this other irrelevant crap you are saying? What are you even responding to?

>>99327

If you accuse me of making a fallacy, you should back up your claims

>Please none of this "consent" shit. Who is saying this crap, Montalk? The illusion of separation crap as well. It's not enlightening, it's bullshit. The reptilian stuff has to stop as well, I don't get why it's a thing on here.

I am saying this "crap" it's the way the universe works. Sure not at the physical level, you can't stop someone assaulting you, but at the nonphysical level all interaction is entirely based on consent. How can it not be, when you have potentially 100% control of your form and all attributes.

>Belief doesn't create reality. Reality creates beliefs. Reality creates you.

Now you have gone full retard. Do the research yourself and see that not even science has any objective proof. Literally everything is subjective except for the fact that phenomena exists, as explored in discourse regarding the classic philosophical phrase cogito ergo sum. Your reality is literally created by your perception. And your subconscious filters this perception.

>Reality creates beliefs

this is literally the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Sure you can say that reality provides information for you to analyze and then conclude on a belief, but what the fuck kool aid have you been drinking? You create these beliefs, consciously or unconsciously.


 No.99330

>>99326

>>99327

Listen bub, I think it's pretty clear that I am here to collaborate on information to increase knowledge. Your advice is very unwelcome and incredibly rude, since I never even asked a question and was just commenting and sharing my thoughts

Sure provide constructive criticism for my claims/opinions/ideology what have you.

But nearly nothing you said was constructive. They are basically commands that you are telling me to obey.

In fact you have your head so far up your ass it's not even funny. What is this holier than thou attitude? Stop acting like you know so much more than others that your entitled to give abslute commands with no explanations.

If you don't like what I am saying that's too bad. You can cry about it to someone else but I do not give a single fuck

Of course, if you can logically invalidate anything I say or provide a valid counterarguement I am all ears. Constructive criticism is cool too.


 No.99331

its like looking at a version of myself that bothers to write out full sentences.


 No.99332

>>99331

Dude. Knowing everything is not that hard

Being able to articulate that everything that you figured out, now that is the real challenge. You think you know until you actually talk to someone and found out you can't find the words.


 No.99336

>>99326

You have something against Montalk? This is what he says about consent

>There is also a difference between consenting to risk and consenting to some particular manifestation of that risk. For example, every time you drive, you accept the risk of an accident without choosing to have an accident per se. Agreeing to face the risk of freewill violation by choosing to enter into a reality where that possibility exists does not translate into consenting to the violation when it tries to occur. So freewill violations can still take place in environments that one has freely chosen to enter.

If there's anything you think that Montalk is wrong about, please do share and we can talk about it.


 No.99338

BREAK THE CONDITIONING


 No.99341

>>99332

i go by the maxim you dont get it until you can explain it to a retard/with few words as possible

that said i usually present myself better but im on a shitty ipad and also just dont care.


 No.99345

>>99341

which is why alex jones anon knows jack shit because he's incapable of explaining anything without multiple thousand-word-long samefag posts containing word salad


 No.99349

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>>99329

I don't believe in "non-physical reality".

We can do things that are denied by conventional belief, yes, such as using prayer/meditation/intention to heal or kill or teleport or whatever, but this can also be done by technology that was created from understanding the mechanisms of reality that permit such a thing.

Biology, Bioenergy, Biofields, Biopsychics, etc is a deep learning phenomena that interfaces with the spirit/soul by intuition or revelation (by setting up the revelation like a plot twist for instance).

Belief doesn't create reality because belief is merely a lense of perception that filters out stimulus in order to focus one's energy/mind/etc on something. Believing you can heal someone then focusing through that lens of perception allows one to focus all of their resources on performing such a miracle.

Because your beliefs about the capabilities of humans are not accepted by present culture, you reject the ENTIRE fucking culture in one fell swoop of intellectual and emotional dishonesty. You feel rejected by humanity so you reject humanity, when you could integrate the TRUTHS known by the scientific community into your own perceptions.

The reason why the spirit of science of an appropriate lens is because the imagination and intuition does not communicate in literal terms, but instead in analogy and to suit and support the belief system or spirit in its aims. Communication that is done in as few words as possible, which I notice is being talked about, is EXACTLY what the fucking intuition does. It tries to communicate as effectively as possible, getting to the point your spirit wants to reach (or beliefs, or goals, etc.). It ISN'T there to tell you you're literally wrong, objectively wrong, but you have decent subjective/intuitive tools (not truth, tools or instrumental organization of the mind permitting usefulness). You will ONLY hear the OBJECTIVE truth if you believe that you need to know the objective truth. You say in your own words objective truth is meaningless to you, except in a subjective lens… only when it's relevant to you subjectively. I MADE IT RELEVANT TO YOU SUBJECTIVELY, because objectively I can tell you aren't doing yourself any favors with this belief system/perspective. Subjectivity is for initiatory paths with a beginning and end, and are self-contained…. to learn a skill, perspective, etc. authentically. Being self-willed AND subjective is to be relevant only… within oneself; self-contained. You are searching for TRUTH though, and such truth must come to You, the Subject… but also You, the Object. And if you want to learn from others, you must see them as Subject (biased, flawed, unverifiable) and Object (unbiased, less flawed, verifiable). Knowledge is made conscious through Subjective experience but exists in Objective reality, and the big POINT of all that is your awareness begins as SUBJECTIVE and then becomes OBJECTIVE to actually learn something… and that something becomes more and MORE RELEVANT TO REALITY /BECAUSE/ reality is Objective. WE NEED CONTRAST TO SEE: Contrast your subjective existence with Objectivity.

Belief is basically focus. Reality is what is focused on. Reality is how you decide what to focus on. Reality informs all decision making, there is no decision making that is not informed by reality. Yes yes we have free will, we are the indeterminate factor, but all that is meaningless without the context of reality, and quite frankly all of your believes reek of the intellectual dishonesty inherent in reading up about subjects you know nothing about, only absorbing a drop of it, then digesting it 1000x over and over again until the shit itself has been digested and you're full of it. Your intuition driven bs is through the intellectual lense of whatever the fuck's been peddled on this site and that. Montalk is ONE SOURCE. Why the fuck would all your eggs be in one basket.

META STUDY YOU FUCK <<< DON'T OVER COMPLICATE IT YOU FUCK

YOU DON'T EVEN STUDY ALL THE WIZARD ESOTERIC SHIT WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING

YOU SHOULD BE STUDYING SCIENCE, MYSTICISM, PHILOSOPHY, WIZARDRY, TECHNOLOGY, ENGINEERING, ART, LITERATURE, PHYSICAL PROWESS/TRAINING, WAR, HISTORY, ALL OF IT YOU FUCK

YOU HAVE NO COMPREHENSION BECAUSE YOUR STUDIES ARE THE LEAST COMPREHENSIVE

STUDY YOU FUCKER, I KNOW YOU RESENTED BEING FORCED TO GO TO SCHOOL YOU SHITHEAD BUT NOW IS THE TIME TO GO-TO-FUCKING-SCHOOL YOU NOVICE PIECE OF SHIT.

MINE THE ORE OF KNOWLEDGE

FORGE THE METAL OF LEARNING

SMITH THE TOOLS AND MACHINES OF TRUTH

STOP EATING YOUR OWN FECES


 No.99351

>>99349

>STOP EATING YOUR OWN FECES

Fecalmancer here. What is wrong with eating your own feces, have you never heard of the power of the sacrament? You still have so much to learn young one.


 No.99352

>>99349

you're just arguing semantics


 No.99353

File: 7624f7fae081a87⋯.jpg (86.18 KB, 1000x1250, 4:5, occulus magus.jpg)

>>99351

They should bury you in the woods

>>99352

No you're disassociating with the essent of language. No you've just rejected all semantics in favor of somatics. You fucks ONLY ARGUE SOMATICS. You hyper-somatic fucks are destroying yourselves with this… intellectual aesthetic elitism.

You fuckers REJECT LANGUAGE, and thus reject unity by conflict… the conflict that gives form and function and definition and identity to everything. There CAN ONLY BE EXISTENCE through separation. Otherwise you are NOTHING. I AM NOTHING. ALL IS NOTHING. If there are no divisions, it's all void, all meaningless, all formless, and there's not even SOMA. Not even FEELING or CONSCIOUSNESS.

So there Must must MUST be semantics, as that is literally half of reality. And since everyone here is predominately somatic, spiritual, etc…. you guys need 99% semantics. As if that was fucking meaningless… reaming language in the anus is not a fucking meaningless act. You're popping your nerve bundles like transistors and short fusing your whole fucking lives. It's depressing.

pls


 No.99354

>>99353

Someone's hubris is showing, better get back to your soul mirror.


 No.99357

>>99291

>lie about my problems to the one person I can trust to help me without just shipping me off to the loony bin

That's what I've been doing for years, but she knows the details now and I need her to know so she can help me.

>>99292

You are kind of like a taco because all your posts have very healthy information immersed in unhealthy information and enclosed in a packet of uselessness.


 No.99358

>>99345

rude. what hes doing is good for him and you.


 No.99365

What's with the pathetic sexual posts on here?

>Get me laid

>Ballbusting & Female domination fetish

>Giantess Tulpa Femdom LARPing


 No.99366

>>99365

Well… at least the guy with the ballbusting fetish wanted help. Can't hate on that.




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