>>78316
I go by Anonymous on imageboards and have a terrible animosity towards both namefags and meme magic.
>All thoughts, ideas, and beliefs (transferred through non-genetic means) are memes
This is the whole problem with meme magicians: concluding that all thoughts conveyed must be memes and therefore memes are on the same level as thoughts. The idea of 'thoughts shape your reality' becomes 'memes shape your reality'.
Seeing no difference between thoughts and memes is not helpful in the slightest:
- Memes are cultural ideas or certain types of behavior designed to be passed around by persons. Both genes and memes have in their very essence the obligation to be passed on to another being, while thoughts do not. Self-contemplation with memes is not possible since memes can only be sent.
- Memes, just like sigils, thoughtforms, tulpa's etc. owe their existence to the mind, not the other way around. A meme can only convey a single meaning while the mind can produce any meme it wants to.
You're going at it in the wrong direction!
Magic is the basis for this world, while memes are mere offshoots of this world. Magic has existed since time immemorial, while memes are only a recent phenomenon from the information age when ideas could be spread en masse.
>Those who can manipulate the ideosphere within the biosphere most fluently are who I believe to be the most truly magical.
Magic is not only about manipulation, it is more so about understanding; understanding the laws of nature, understanding the mind and changing the mind within.
Of course, meme magicians can not look any further because their means of doing magic equates only to manipulation of the public mind through smug frog images. Their memes can only convey meaning so that's what meme magicians do: they try to force their meanings on others.
(disregard my antipathy for memefags)
>If the ideosphere exists, I suspect it may literally be heaven. When we die, our thoughts and beliefs may live on collectively as what we call a soul.
This is sort of true, but you have a very narrow definition of ideosphere. It is not some meme world originating from the minds of people, it is both people and memes that originated from the mind.
>>78348
>There's a difference. Thoughtforms and symbolism are considered by the scientific community to be a complete joke. Memes in modern scholarly thought serve as the best empirical measurement of culture we have.
The reason thoughtforms and symbolism are dismissed is because they have no physical counterpart, whereas memes can be perceived with human eyes.
Yeah, also:
>I'm pretty fed up with trying my best on fringe's elite fancy magic people claim would take me an insufferable lifetime to master
I'm also fed up with you ranting about ethics and fringe masters, while they continue to invest time in you. Do you know what a pain in the ass you can be? Get it in your thick skull that true understanding does not come from the internet or memes (which you have also tried to do)