/fringe/ - Fringe

>>125247

>These may be used to produce tangible results, but unless you find specific people that are "built" like you, it's very hard for anyone else to replicate "your" results. Magic is not for everyone . Then again, neither is advanced mathematics.

that may be so, but you can always demonstrate advanced "traditional" concepts to normalfags even without them understanding it. for example, most normalfags don't know why the rate of acceleration due to gravity at sea level is always -9.806…m/s^2, but you can show it to them that an object will always fall at that rate. you can't do the same with magic, there are no diagrams to draw or fundamental interactions to elucidate, it's always been "just because". that's what i don't understand, not that people aren't consistent with fringe topics, but that fringe topics themselves are not consistent with themselves.

>Unless they learn to put aside their "theoretical" prejudices and allow themselves to perceive, they can't learn anything.

but anon, what would that entail? what separates dropping the scientific method, and just believing everything altogether? psychics have been very very easily made fools of, parapsychologists can never seem to actually get anywhere past their convoluted hypotheses, etc. etc. i don't get it…

>You have an object that entangles with a photon that entangles with an ocular receptor that entangles with your neurons, and somewhere in all this mess is also you perceiving a thing. Hard-line materialists tell that because there are neural signals when we act, the signals cause us to act. But that only establishes correlation, they're two sides of the same coin.

what makes "lol its just particles and waves bro" so unbelievable, however? it has already been demonstrated that we can simulate a microscopic worm's brain cells on a computer and even make it run around inside a robot body, what makes humans (or anything at all) so special that they are different from worms in this regard?

>>125251

>One thing and one thing only. Practice precedes theory. All advances are made when someone disregards a piece of the theory in the face of new data. When you learn to focus on perceptions, you disregard rationalizations on what they "should" be. It is what it is.

that's what the scientific method basically is, though. pretend you know nothing, then assemble your observations into a tentative model for how you can expect things in the universe to work.

>shortened links are not allowed on 8ch

why didn't you post the full link then?

>There are tribes of bushmen possessing telepath-like abilities.

sauce

>Animals also see a far "sharper" world than we do.

elaborate, please?

>For them most part we humans mainly live inside our heads. Our world is a fabricated one.

this is not incorrect, but doesn't really say anything bigger than itself.

>A worm can change into something new, given enough time.

lolwut? do you mean evolution?

>A computer model stays the same.

not really, if you've ever used YouTube you know this is absolutely not true

>We're looking for perceptual anomalies to expand for "fun and profit".

I'm interested. Tell me more, please.

>The end goal of "magic" is to create a man who's intuitive and perceptual abilities match his rational ones.

what does this mean?

>all perceiving that there is a world "slightly larger" than the normal one, but none perceiving enough of the same world to form a coherent indisputable system.

this is an interesting hypothesis and i can't say i'm not half convinced

Mundane fags with muh "science" and the "skeptical" mindset… Getting your head out of your ass is a good start.

These bitch ass threads every 3 days,starting to get boring.

>>125256

nigger why don't you jump off a cliff and come back to tell us how much science is incorrect then?