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The rotting God - Mainlanders Metaphysic of Entropy 02/15/18 (Thu) 22:55:19 No.115974

Be forewarned: This is a very pessimistic philosophy. In fact, tpossibly the most pessimistic systemized theory I have come across.

That said, instead of posting a massive wall of text, I will point you to a good general summary:

http://philosophy-of-redemption.blogspot.jp/2013/05/the-rotting-god-mainlanders-metaphysic.html

TL.DR: "The only thing we know is that the basic unity [i.e., "God"] must have been killing itself, because it was the only thing existing before the universe and therefore it couldn't have been killed by anything else, because there wasn't anything that could have killed it. Therefore the universe, as we know it, was born through the suicide of God. God decided that he can't bear his existence anymore and that he wishes to turn into Nothingness. But he was not able to reach that goal without thereby creating our world, because the path from his over-being** to Nothingness required a transition, which is being as we know it, our universe. This entire world is therefore nothing more than God's "body", that is in all its components rotting into nothingness now."

SAGE! 02/15/18 (Thu) 23:21:29 No.115975

>>115974

what a crock of mindless nihilistic drivel.

SAGE! 02/16/18 (Fri) 05:24:56 No.115983

If an all-powerful, all-knowing god killed itself, it wouldn't be because it couldn't stand existence, but because it would be curious to see what would happen when it would be surprised. The guy who wrote Dilbert wrote a new age-y book all about it.

It's basically just a really stupid version of the Hindu mythological model.

02/16/18 (Fri) 09:33:12 No.115990

>universe

>having a beginning or end

02/16/18 (Fri) 09:34:27 No.115991

>mfw apparently huge wall of text I can just dismiss based on the simple quote OP presented because it fails to acknowledge the necessity of the eternal

02/16/18 (Fri) 18:47:17 No.116018

>>115974

Finally someone noticed Mainlander! I absolutely admire his thought. Sadly his works are untranslated, though Ligotti translated some excerpts in his "conspiracy against the human race", which was a great read.

02/16/18 (Fri) 19:04:43 No.116020

>>116018

>>115974

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mainlander/comments/5r8wn2/the_immanent_philosophy_of_philipp_mainländer/

Here are some resources on this great thinker.

>>115983

>all-knowing god

>it would be curious to see what would happen

Well, think that through again, will you?

>version of the Hindu mythological model

>consciousness viewed us a burden

Not really.

But yeah, it is "a version" of creation myths in many religions - Hindu, but for example Nordic one too, in which world came to be as a result of sacrifice of some God, or the universe being God's body, decomposing or not.

>>115990

>>115991

And why exactly do you dismiss it? What makes you so qualified to say that this is right and this is wrong? One can conceive of a beginningless, eternal universe which nonetheless undergoes cyclic processes of creation, preservation and dissolution (which is a case in a number of philosophies), which could fit into Mainlander's ideas. That "meta-universe" could undergo cycles, and in each cycle a new universe would form out of nothingness and later return to it, thus each universe having it's beginning and end.

02/16/18 (Fri) 19:16:59 No.116021

>>116020

I'm saying it's basically just edgy pantheism. I make no claims as to how well it fits the most popular pantheist model, which is Hinduism, only that in its basic essence, the universe-as-god-not-knowing-itself model is not exactly new.

02/18/18 (Sun) 13:30:16 No.116124

>>115974

Good thread. The way I see it is that the present universe is its own (God's) post-death Bardo thodol and entropy is just the diffusion of his personality after death.