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 No.115061

This is going to be a long thread… I tried to split it up a bit, like you can see below, so if don't have the energy to read it all, you can chose yourself what you think seems important. However I'd really appreciate if someone took the time to read it all, especially if you've experienced something similar.

1. [Introduction of myself]

2. [General explanation of my problematic dreams]

3. [Further explanation of the "between-state" / Principles of the "between-state"]

4. [Yesterday's dream, with an extra element]

5. [The type of advice I'm looking for]

[Introduction of myself]

So, to begin with; I'm a bit of a skeptic to the point of If someone had told me the things I'm going to tell you, and I hadn't experience these things first hand myself, I wouldn't have believed him/her, or alternatively just called it a simple nightmare. So keep this in mind when you're writing you replies.

(This is a bit of info regarding me so you can understand what sort of "level" I am on)

I'm pretty well read although I haven't read any Occult/Gnostic books yet (They're next on my list). I've done LSD/Mushrooms/DMT all three in both high and low dosage (Although I have never encountered any type of "creature" in any of my trips). I'm open minded, but I only truly believe what I can either reason for or experience myself, thus I call myself a skeptic.

TL;DR I'm somewhere between Green pill and Gray Pill

(If you don't remember Gray pill It's basically Green pill without the occult/magic stuff)

[General explanation of my problematic dreams]

So, for as long as I can remember I've often been able to regain my consciousness in dreams and I eventually figured out that if I focused all my energy on blinking rapidly In the dream, I'd eventually start doing the same with my eyes in real life and thus wake myself up. This worked like a charm for me when I was younger and was also very useful since I often had nightmares.

However… When I got to the age of about 11/12 years old this started to become more problematic. I was still able to regain my consciousness in my dreams, but whenever I'd try to wake myself up, my consciousness would kind of get stuck in a realm between my physical body and the "dream-world", often getting thrown back and forth, so one moment I'd enter a stage of sleep paralysis (being in my physical body but unable to move anything), the next moment I'd be outside my body (In the realm between I mentioned previously), and the moment after that I'd be back to consciously dreaming. They sometimes also mix, which is terrifying. As I got older I'd even enter the "between-state" as fast as I fell asleep, i.e. before the dreams even started.

[Further explanation of the "between-state" / Principles of the "between-state"]

1. This place is terrifying. There is always a sort of sinister presences there. Sort of like in those nightmares were nothing scary actually happens, like you can just be running from something, you don't even know what it is, you only know it's a nightmare and you need to run the fuck away from something. That is sort of what it feels like.

2. It's not like I have spiritual body that resembles my own in the "between-state" it's more like I'm a cloud of consciousness.

3. I'm more like 85-95% conscious. I have my memory from the real world, I can "chose" what to think, I know exactly what is going on, but I don't think I'm quite as rational as when I'm fully awake (but close to it).

4. The realm always resembles the room I'm currently sleeping in that night, but it has never occurred when someone is sleeping with me in the same bed. However If somebody is sleeping in the next room over doesn't seem to matter. I can see my floor, my bed, and the bottom part the walls, the rest seems to be a sort of black void of nothingness. I think other rooms exist as well, but I've never been to them.

 No.115062

5. I was able to muster up some courage to explore this place a while ago and this is what I discovered; Whenever I moved away, ie going somewhere else then forward in my room, everything would go completely black. It's sort of that glitch that occurs in some computer programs/games where if you zoom out the slightest everything disappear, but if you'd zoom back everything show up again. I tried flying up and down, but it turns out that without a physical body, gravity, and air (I suppose) "flying" is pretty much just moving up and down at different speeds. This makes sense now when I think about it, but I was so disappointed, haha. I tried to bring things into existence, like they say you can do in a lucid dreams, but that didn't work either. I could see the thing in front of my like a blurry picture, but I knew it wasn't really there (Sort of like trying to imagine something in to existence in the real world, only I felt I could really see it) . Hope this makes sense, I feel like it's getting a little "out there" now…

6. When I stay to long and try to explore, the feeling of terror often rapidly becomes more intense. Sometimes I even hear a loud ringing scream. Sometimes I feel like hands are pulling my consciousness out of my body (very rarely though). Although, sometimes the line between the "between-state" and dreams get sort of blurry. So take the hands-part with a grain of salt. I should also add that there is no delay before I wake up and I'm never confused. I'm just suddenly able to snap open my eyes and I'm back in the real world.

[Yesterday's dream, with an extra element]

So the night to today something new happened that freaked me out a bit. First I should mention that some things seem to trigger these "dreams". I've been meditating the last three days, trying to sort some emotional stuff out, and I feel like I made a lot of progress, especially yesterday. What I'm getting at Is that I think that this might have triggered the dream.

However this time it was a bit different, I was in my own room, the "between-state" room that I described above, although I was more of in a dream then the "between-state". My bed was empty (unlike the "between-state") and I hade a body, like a normal dream. But I was also conscious, and desperately trying to wake myself up by rapidly blinking, throwing myself at walls, screaming, etc. (I wish just blinking still worked..). However this time, there were about three or four creatures sitting and standing in my room. I didn't really get a clear look of them, maybe they even existed in less of a physical form, and more in a sort of spiritual-form (like spirits). However I know for sure they were more of creatures than actual people or humanoid creatures.

The biggest one, sitting in my bed, tried talking to me as well. Although I couldn't really make out what he said, he either ordered me to do something, or ordered one of the other creatures to tell me something… I couldn't really make it out because of my own screaming, blinking, throwing myself at the walls/floor, etc. He was very authoritarian but I didn't really get the vibe that he/they wanted to hurt me either… But then again, I didn't really listen so…

[The type of advice I'm looking for]

First of all; I'd like to apologize for the long post and thank those of you who took the time to read it all.

I'd like to know what you guys think I should do:

1. Could this be dangerous or do you think I should explore it more?

2. Should I listen to/obey these creatures if I meet them again?

3. Should I listen to my gut feeling and always try to get out as fast as possible?

4. Do you think this is like real? Or is it just my head playing tricks on me? I Mean really… I'm a bit prone to think of the second like the skeptic I am, but it all just feels so strangely real I can't make sense of it.

I'm also sort of scared that it will get worse, seeing as it has changed as I grew up..


 No.115575

To sum it up and not make things to long for you ill say that ive experienced some of the things you have described here and even found references of it in the Emerald Tablets Of Thoth

You're moving in dimensions not known to man

There are things that dont want us moving as such and will try and stop you ive had the experience you explained about the loud almost screaming sound almost like a distored crackling bell or something followed by having the feeling of myself being grabbed and pulled on

im very vague on it all as i have completely taken myself away from alot of the things relevant due to an overwhelming experience with algiz

id say read the tablets when you find what you're looking you will know and you can find more advice through there


 No.115576

sorry for the trash tier quality comments pretty fucked up rn and new user but im sure you can extract the information you need

1. It can be extremely dangerous and you could get hurt i wouldnt consider it to be safe because some people say that sleep paralysis is fucking nuts and this is the next step beyond that

2. Dont listen/talk/interact with them they arent trying to be your friend consider them as a gatekeeper trying to stop intruders (according to the tablets)

3. Yes, if that is what your gut is telling you listen

(Maybe listen to it more regardless)

4. i struggle with the answer on this, like fuck even asking that now i couldnt tell you if anything is even real. i just know ive found a reference to it in the Emerald Tablets which are some crazy sacred fucking texts that were found in the pyramids

All i will say is dont dig too deeply for now or peer to hard into it

Just read the Tablets and go from there


 No.115582

I'm sorry that I can't help you OP, but I was drawn to this thread today because of a dream I had last night. I was in a forest and a squirrel darted out from the undergrowth. Just as it appeared, a raven swooped down and killed it. The raven then looked into my eyes, friendly like, it didn't speak but I felt a connection to it.

When I was younger I always had a wolf protecting me in my dreams. I'm just wondering if it's possible to have more than one spirit animal, or do different animals come to you at different times in your life?

Sorry if I'm derailing, but this thread showed up as I was doing some inner questioning about the dream.


 No.115628

thanks for this post anon

i read it




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