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 No.114392

Hey, any theistic satanism resources? Particularly polytheistic versions (rather than, like, duotheistic christanity based satanism)

It would also helps if there's not a lot of political stuff involved and it mainly focuses on the religious aspect.

Thanks in advance!

 No.114398

https://www.spiritualsatanist.com/

http://theisticsatanism.com/

http://www.joyofsatan.org/

http://www.o9a.org/

have you educated yourself on any of those already? If not, here you go. The last link is the most hardcore of them all. You will find for yourself what you like best, althought the last two links are mildly to heavyly political (right) influenced


 No.114399

I've read all but the first one, joy of satan is a bit eccentric and order of the nine angles is pretty damn neo-nazi. Thanks thought!


 No.114401

>>114399

Well at least I could provide you one new link. Maybe it will be of help, because that is all I know about. Just like you I have searched far and wide and wanted to enlighten myself on Satanism and those four links are all that I have found. That to say those four links are the only things that are not complete and utter waste of time and pure shit.


 No.114402

ProTip: Just study theology and christianity if you want to know what satanism in its original conception actually is

I studied all the different forms of satanism and it's just a bunch of different philosophies and cults masquerading in the style of satanism.

Real satanists simply call themselves Christians, learn who Satan is from the bible and theology, and then go and dedicate themselves to Satan by following his example and taking in his qualities.

ProTip btw: Satan is part of god's plan because he's needed to challenge and accuse us. In order for us to prove ourselves and our real worth, Satan is necessary. That's why god lets Satan do what he does in this world. After-all how can you be moral if you aren't tempted and then successfully resist the temptation? You need someone to tempt you so you can be tested, so you have your chance to prove your worth.

ProTip 2: real Satanists deserve to be put to death or dominated by any power stronger enough to override their will and rewrite them because all they do is lie, slander, deceive, confuse, degrade, hurt, etc. people. If you understand that a Satanist is basically rebelling against god and virtue and trying to become the anti-christ (aka the very opposite of everything good) you will understand just how the devil works in this world and why a real satanist must for example do such things as become a stand-in for real religion, gut it of its original meaning, pervert it, blasphemy it, lead others astray, etc.

Never trust what a Satanist says about Satanism because if he's speaking truth than he's not a Satanist and if he is a Satanist then he won't be speaking any truths as that would make him a bad Satanist.

That said all the self-identified Satanists are not Satanists. All these various Satanic groups you can read about they aren't Satanists. Most of them all just steal knowledge from Hermetics anyways and then add some made up shit to it that they call Satanism. ONA and JOS both reference Franz Bardon and pretty much all their magickal knowledge is simply from Hermeticism.

The real Satanists call themselves Christians or anything really except "Satanist" and have a habit of infiltrating and degrading institutions from within. Just try to find a really immoral, disgusting, vice-filled Christian and you've found yourself what is actually a Satanist.

Pick a random priest and he might just be a Satanist.


 No.114403

>>114401

I could add to your links Temple of Set. https://xeper.org/

They are not worth the time btw.


 No.114404

The Temple of Set: Is it Satanic?

Lilith Aquino

I can't answer this in 25 words or less, so bear with me! If you consider Satanism to be anti-Christian Devil worship, the answer is no. The Temple of Set practices a completely non-Christianized, positive "high Satanism". To understand what we mean by this, a bit of history of the Temple is needed: While the TOS as an organization was formally incorporated and recognized by both state and federal governments in 1975 CE, its magical and philosophical roots are prehistoric, originating in mankind's first apprehension that there is "something different" about the human race - a sense of SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS - that places humanity apart from all other known forms of life. Ancient religions - of which those of Egypt are generally acknowledged the eldest - either exalted or feared this self-consciousness. Those which exalted it took the position that the human psyche is capable of opposition to and domination of the forces of nature.

The psyche-worshipping, reasoning religions - or schools of initiatory philosophy - attained levels of abstract knowledge that made them mysterious to the masses. In a few societies, such as Egypt and Greece, such groups were respected and admired. More often, however, their exclusive elitism and "supernatural" activities made them objects of resentment and persecution.

While all philosophical schools embraced the psychecentric consciousness to some degree, there were a very few which made it avowedly and explicitly the focus of their attention. The divine personifications ("gods") of such schools have come down to us as symbols of what most Western religions, worshippers of non-consciousness, consider the supreme "evil": the Prince of Darkness in his many forms. Of these the most ancient is Set, whose Priesthood can be traced to predynastic times.

Originally a circumpolar/stellar deity portrayed as a cyclical counterpart to the Solar Horus, Set was later recast as an evil principle by the cults of Osiris and Isis. When the Hebrews emigrated from Egypt during the XIX Dynasty, they took with them a caricature of Set: "Satan" (from the hieroglyphic Set-Hen , one of the god's formal titles). Originally a sort of "prosecuting angel for YHVH", the Hebrew Satan was changed by Christianity into a personification of everything God was not - and since God was "good", Satan was necessarily "bad". Alluring or mysterious deities from religions competing with early Christianity - such as the hellenic/Roman Mysteries and Persian Mithraic faith - were also "bad". Non-Christian gods generally were redefined as Christian "demons" and given a place in the Christian Hell (another name stolen and perverted from Norse mythology). Christian propaganda notwithstanding, the present day "Satan" is wholly their invention.

Which brings us to the present time: The Satanic religion proposes to raise the individual to personal godhood, free from enslavement to any other "God" (or gods). However this is a question not just of power, but also of ethics, morality, and psychological maturity. The parameters of philosophy and metaphysics extend far beyond the conceptual and symbolic limits of the Judaic/Christian tradition. The Temple of Set explores the "human equation" and the metaphysical and psychological roots of the great Satanic/psyche-centered philosophies of history. The appeal of occultism is much the same as that of conventional religion: Logical positivism and scientific materialism, though they have made great strides towards explaining the "how" of existence, have failed entirely to explain the why.


 No.114406

>>114404

Conventional religions, with their colorful mythologies analyzed in terms of the underlying philosophical principles, represent simply the primitive longing of man to feel "at one" with the Universal harmony he perceives about him. The Black Magician rejects both the desirability of union with the Universe and any self-deceptive actions designed to create such an illusion. He/she has considered the existence of the individual psyche - the "core you" of your conscious intelligence - and has taken satisfaction from its existence as something unlike anything else. The Black Magician desires this psyche to live, to experience, to continue. He/she does not wish to die - or to lose consciousness and identity in a larger, Universal consciousness (assuming that such exists). He/she wants to BE. This decision in favor of individual existence is the first premise of the Temple of Set.

The second premise of the Temple is that the psychecentric consciousness can evolve towards its own divinity through deliberate exercise of the intelligence and Will, a process of BECOMING or COMING INTO BEING (XEPER), whose roots may be found in the dialectic method expounded by Plato and the conscious exaltation of the Will proposed by Nietzsche.

The "worship" of Set is thus the "worship" of individualism. In the Church of Satan this was taken to mean indulgence in all (legal) desires of the body and ego. Since many such desires are impulsive and destructive, the COS found itself in an awkward position, which accelerated its eventual crisis and demise in 1975. The Temple of Set determined to preserve the principle of individualism, but to add to it the evolutionary "higher self" aspirations of Aleister Crowley's pre-OTO philosophy of Thelema. Glorification of the ego is not enough; it is the COMPLETE psyche, the entire Self or soul, which must be recognized, appreciated, and actualized. Dogma, - to include fixed ideology in any form - is repugnant to Setians. We strive rather towards an atmosphere of "best possible premises", which are always subject to constructive, intelligent examination and criticism. Foolish, pretentious, or destructive egotism under the guise of exploration is neither respected nor endured.

Regretfully there still exist some individuals whose idea of "Satanism" is largely a simple-minded synthesis of Christian propaganda and Hollywood horror movies. The Temple of Set enjoys the colorful legacy of the Black Arts, and we use many forms of historical Satanic imagery for our artistic stimulation and pleasure. But we have not found that any interest or activity which an enlightened, mature intellect would regard as undignified, sadistic, criminal, or depraved is desirable, much less essential to our work. The Temple of Set is an evolutionary product of human experience. Such experience includes the magical and philosophical work of many occult individuals which have preceded us. In examining the secret and suppressed corners of history for valuable and useful material, the Temple insists upon ethical presentation and use of such discoveries. All Setians are expected to display a high measure of maturity and common sense in this area. We reject absolutely wanton cruelty and harm to others, and are particularly adamant about this with regard to animals.

The Temple of Set evaluates conventional religions as erroneous in principle, and feels no need to concern itself with their activities unless they intrude upon our affairs.

Any further questions or comments are welcome.

>http://www.paganlibrary.com/editorials/temple_set.php

>tl;dr these guys may as well have more in common with Khemetists than anything that deserves to call itself "Satanic"

>oh and btw JoS is basically just Enki worship

>also Styxenhammer666 on youtube considers himself a "pagan" these days instead of a satanist

>and I think it's a sad and silly thing for pagans to identify themselves as satanists


 No.114407

>>114404

>Christian propaganda notwithstanding, the present day "Satan" is wholly their invention.

This part btw I just want to highlight as it's important. Satanism is a Christian invention and what it means is "everything that god is not". God is good, so Satan is bad. It's not much more complicated than that. You understand this, you understand clearly what is Satanism, and can now move on and just study other stuff.

>The Satanic religion proposes to raise the individual to personal godhood, free from enslavement to any other "God" (or gods).

…and regarding this I want to say something else I've learned from Christian theology. Satan aspired to be like god, rebelled against him, and tried to make a counterfeit kingdom. In this sense Satan is the demiurge I guess, since he's the prince of this world, and is unable to offer what god can though he wants to initiate god.

As for why these various Satanic groups like Temple of Set and ONA and a couple others decide to call themselves Satanists will it's probably because they want to achieve godhood. Thing is they could discard the association with Satan completely and instead look at many other religions and philosophies that already existed before Christianity that aimed to do the same thing.


 No.114781

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>>114402

Great insight. What's your opinion on the Sabbatean/Frankists? The religion of doing the inverse of Good. Pretty much is exactly what you prescribed as Satanism. Was Sabbatai Zevi a real Satanist claiming to be a Messiah?

I'd be very interested to read your opinion on this point.




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