/fringe/ - Fringe

>>112762

Maybe taken advantage of by them but not started by them. They didn't exist at the time, this goes back as far as cro magnon times.

>>112718

Ok I’ll bite.

I am expressing clear intent in my head by saying “yes I do want to live forever”, what happens now?

I might be sounding snarking but I’m not.

>>112782

Since I'm still here I'll cast it manually as well in case the autocasting function misfires (it may not be very powerful at first, will get better as it's activated more).

>>112785

I mean what effects are suppose to happen?

>>112786

You may feel energized at first, but it's also possible you get symptoms of a cold as the body will get purified briefly. Depending on what part activates for you (if any) it may take anywhere from days to a few months before the "transformation" is complete. You're going to know when that happens, as your mind will get very clear afterwards.

After activation you will have increased senses of non physical beings and will be able to pick up telepathy easier.

>>112787

I certainly do feel my etheric body more pronounced for some reason, if that’s what you mean by energized.

Will I meet any of the vampires after this eventually?

>>112788

That will happen, guaranteed. If the magic sticks to you they will want you to join their cabal later on. I don't know the specifics because I mostly talk to them telepathically but it's a lot of the "you're supposed to understand this" - attitude. Which is fine for me as I have a talent for this area.

Consider it a social network for occultists, communicating with completely invisible means. It definitely is a community, I'm constantly aware of them.

>>112790

Sticks to me?

>>112791

Yeah, like it's not that this is some "magic solution" (lol) it has a guiding role. It needs to transform some part of you and it happens by your enlightenment, that's what immortality is based on. So the spell will cast this energetic "liquid" over you and it will try to find a spot where you can understand its message. If you can understand it, the magic will "stick" or "bite" to this area and you'll be able to transform from there to the rest of your being. If not it will just run off of you like water and have no further effect.

>>112792

Interesting, I feel it probing around so let’s see.

If it works that’s great, if not then it’s not the end of the world for me.

I do feel oddly confident, hope that’s not just arrogance.

>>112718

>>112718

I'm interested in it if you don't mind going through the troubles for another person.

Would I be able to carry direct conversations with them, would this feel more like a "gut feeling" sort of thing or what? I'd like to hear you describe more about the group, the spell itself and how a person should develop as they go through this.

>>112797

If you already know how to communicate telepathically you'll have direct clear communication, otherwise you'll have to learn it. It's mostly a matter of seperating your own thoughts from external messages. At first you'll get an echo effect where your own thoughts are repeating the external message. This is a mental block people develop to rationalize external messages as their own, because a person hearing voices is insane, or so they think. Blame mundane society for creating this habit.

The group isn't so much a group as it's a "community" because they don't meet in the physical very often. Though from my understanding they have a HQ somewhere. From the images it seems like some old european castle.

What the original spell was like can only be guessed, most likely it used blood to draw a sigil in combination with the mental focus of the performer. I know how to internalize sigils so I don't need to physically draw one to do this, and the sigil itself is not really needed, even if it could be drawn out. You probably wouldn't be able to use it anyway because you need a deeper understanding of the magic itself to apply it. It was passed to me directly from the current matriarch through telepathy. You'd need a lot of words to describe it while in direct communication it's just one image.

>>112801

Interesting.

Anyway, while the probing of my head seems to subsided I can still feel and energized energy below my shoulder on my arms and legs.

Also seems to have affected the ringing I always hear in a way I can’t really describe besides maybe empty/more.

Kinda link a dark large empty area as it was a lighter more yellowing full feeling before.

>>112807

Post updates if there are any further changes. It's interesting to know what experiences different people have.

When the magic had been passed to me and I managed to change the "power source" away from using the specific blood type it was deviced for, the instant result was that the weakness in my lower back was gone. I still had to exercise to strengthen but the difference was a feeling of warmth and that I actually could perform the movements without the feeling I may get a stinging pain at any moment. The migraines I used to have also wore off during a period of 2 years to a point where it's no longer a crippling experience. It's been said really tough illnesses take 7 years to wear off tho, but that should be the maximum time (meaning terminal illnesses, that kind of stuff).

>>112809

What kind of blood type is this mean for anyway? I might have it.

>>112810

They said O negative, but it only matters if you use blood of a member and meet personally, which is how it's done traditionally.

>>112811

So is the spell you used just a means to begin the process then?

>>112812

A successful transfer of material will cause the receiver to develop their own understanding of the magic itself and it will by then be a part of the person. How it was transferred to the mind of the new recruit isn't important. But out of tradition and a lack of understanding of the core of the process they have for a long time relied on physical transmission by blood. The energetic equivalent of blood is the same in fact but it's somewhat harder for to make it work. Blood itself can change the person on a physical level even without enlightenment of any kind because it changes the DNA of the body. This leaves room for a lot of confusion when a person can live much longer than a normal human through this external mean and still not have any higher understanding or insight. It's the extreme "buff" a person could put on while having no morality, so for mundanes this would sound very interesting. Which is also why it had to be kept hidden.

Since this version doesn't work without the person developing his own magic, it has a moral and insight requirement so it doesn't harm the natural order to spread it.

Just imagine a rich bastard getting his hands on the blood and using it to live for 100s of years, he could do a lot of damage that way even if he doesn't reach immortality. Immortality requires disattachment of some kind, meaning to not interfere too much with mundes. A mundane who gets to live longer doesn't have that concern, and would just abuse it.

>>112811

That could of work too, I am O- master race.

>>112813

So we must let go then…I can do that.

How unfortunate but if to advance oneself beyond that of the temporary and ultimately of cyclical material existance then it is fine.

One who seeks to be immortal can’t allow himself to be brought down and absorbed into the fabricated reality of mere material intelligence/perspective.

On a side note I do remember that in my dream I was being taught something, unfortunately I can’t remember what it was.

Hope that’s a good sign.

Now I do remember part of my dream, I was in a car driving down the road when I came upon a huge wolf standing before a crashed cop car, I was trying to drive away but my car wouldn’t move too fast, so I went for the door only to find it wouldn’t lock and would open both ways. In worry I stepped on the gas only to find the car would move though sickly because I had only been light pressing on the peddles.

Maybe this was what I was being taught.

>>112814

What a coincidence that you should be the first to reply.

>>112816

Dream symbolism is often personal. I'd think the wolf is a common symbol tho. Some would picture it as a tiger, or as the cerberus in greek mythology. It's the basic strength found at the bottom of existence, or bottom of hell. It also symbolizes death, or overcoming it, in my understanding.

>>112817

Not to pry but how was your own experience through this process? How early would you say now in hindsight that you started to feel changes?

>>112817

I starting to remember another part of my dream, my room was bigger and my bed was being changed into bigger fancier one. Could just be myself reflecting on moving though, the tarot I read was a good sign however.

Journey, new instruction/relations,inheritance/legacy

>>112818

I second this if it’s alright telling us.

>>112819

>>112818

Apart from the instant signs, I didn't experience a lot at first. But this may have to do with gradually adapting the magic myself through a process so whatever changes made was active from my side and not coming from outside to the same degree.

The aspect that made most of the difference was related to the process of joining the community. It's not just a membership agreement, it means linking your life force to all other members. It can only be done at a certain stage, which may take very long (from what I understand it was extremely slow getting there in the past).

I had dreams relating to "dark objects" in lack of a better word. They use this terminology in the vampire diaries tv series but it's pretty accurate. Occult artifacts made with specific purposes. There was also a dream in which I saw a line of people dressed in black robes and white masks with a long nose walking slowly through the mist on a narrow path. It was all very silent. I think this was an image of how they proceed through history. The mask represents something but I'm not sure what, it's an entity of some kind. I think it may be a god responsible for a certain phenomena in the human world, similar to the gods in shintoism or chinese folklore.

Other experiences include a changed perception, such as at night I sometimes feel like there are people around even when alone in the house. As if there was a party going on in the next room and I hear faint noises, or an awareness like there are people smoking and talking outside my window. It's not a negative feeling, rather it feels very friendly and comfortable. This is how the community may manifest, a constant awareness of it despite physical distance.

As for the telepathy it also means you could theoretically talk to someone instantly whenever you want, though you may not want to disturb them out of respect. Your personal feel and motivation matters here.

I think I have some kind of fetish for the idea of young looking women of a high age, which works as a natural icebreaker for me so I have no fear of them at all. Talking to the men is somewhat more difficult for this reason. Maybe it doesn't make much sense, as you'd think one normally finds it easer talking to the same sex. It's to some degree transferred from how I am in physical life as well, but it's more defined when the physical borders are removed. I may be extremely homophobic, not in terms of values but actual phobia.

>>112822

Certainly is interesting, hope this all works out but I like the signs already.

>>112822

Sounds similar to an experience I had on my workplace, though it actually felt like being watched more intently, now I work third shift (overnight) so I'm used to that sort of creepy feeling but it really felt stronger than usual this past week.

>>112824

I know what you mean, at my work I always feel like I’m being watched when I’m in the back.

Since I placed the norse sign for protection on the doors they don’t feel dark though.

>>112822

Say seeing as these entity’s are so old do you think they could have a hand in choosing some of us for this already?

This night, i was very, very cold, i was shaking.

Which is very strange, because I was using about 5 layers of blankets.

In my dreams, I can remember looking for fruits to plant their seeds, some were normal and rotten on the ground, but I came to a kind of fruit shop, and the fruits were HUGE, there was a watermelon with the size of a pig and peaches like football balls.

>>112829

One thing I've learned is that normal logic and chronological time doesn't work when trying to understand them. It's something you just hear about and think about intellectually from fiction but when you experience it, it twists your mind in ways you can't imagine.

Like, I first posted this same thing on another website 2 days before here, but this anon >>112824 felt it already in the past week, seemingly BEFORE the autocast function was even set up.

There's been similar things about some people, such as I rembember hearing someone say

>that woman used to hang around a bunch of 18 year old guys when she was well over 30

and this is something I was told when I was in high school. I don't even know why I was told this, as I never knew who the woman was.

Then I met her last year and didn't know who she was. Later I get told again,

>that's the woman who hangs out with guys way younger than herself, she has to be 40 by now

But a quick calculation shows if she was 30+ back then she'd be 50+ now. More things like this happens and people tell me about this and that person out of nowhere, and the logic of who they are and their age doesn't add up.

There's also been people going by the same bus as me, and they sort of look like the stereotypical vampire, clothes, hair and all, and they have a weird energy. I ignore them and nothing happens. But a few days later the same person shows up again. And we're talking a small country side bus at the end station, random people don't travel here. The thing goes on repeating every other day and they eventually try starting conversations with me, until I get it…

There's nothing said with words, at all, it can all be denied as nothing, unless you look at the context of it. Some wanted help with a spell or wanted me to connect telepathically but had to seek me out first so I'd know they exist.

All the while, all of this can just be discarded as paranoia, even said right out here it sounds like nothing, because "that feeling" of a different kind of intelligence, can't be expressed in text alone.

>>112832

I get it, plausible deniability.

Just to a t.

Now about the telepathy, you said if these all goes well we would develop it as well?

>>112833

You would have the potential for easily developing it, but you still have to learn it, just like a child has to learn to speak. I can't say exactly how you'll do it, but it's said even those who had the fake version of the magic could develop short range telepathy so it's definitely possible. This version has no range limit as far as I know because you won't be disturbed by different things in the environment. It has something to do with using basic particles so it's not even on the level of radio waves, it's smaller.

>>112834

That’s interesting, do they teach those they meet?

>>112836

I'd have to assume they did this back when they last recruited actively. This is different so it'll probably be like, if you get to the point of being able to sense them and contact them, and have specific questions about relevant matters, they'll show you something as a hint.

At first I wanted confirmation so I made a small spell for indentifying vampires in my surroundings and it pointed out exactly the people I'd suspect. I don't remember exactly what I used other than I just made a sigil the instant I had the idea and activated it, it's probably worn off by now. It gave me a V whenever one was close. Like I accidentally tore a sticker from a can I was holding and it left a clear V shape, then I look up and see a person I don't know. Another time there were two sticks on the ground forming a V, and so on.

Try different things, there are really no rules on how you go about it.

They've shown me different stages of development by letting members at different stages pass by me during a period of time until I had seen all relevant parts. I'm talking about their energetic signature. There was of course a reason for this, as they probably knew I would be able to find some solutions to problems, it's not just for me. I'd share back whatever I found, naturally. It feels a bit like interacting with the mafia or something. You get something, but you feel you'd better give them something better back. There's nothing explicit, you'll just be aware of it, it's a meritocracy of some sort.

So I already have a grasp of telepathy (my family talks to me too much) I asked them something OP would know but I didn't know and it's something I'm allowed to talk about of course.

Vamps stop aging around the time when they are initiated (I'm 31) depending on how fast it kicks in. I this true OP?

>>112838

It will seem so, but it's not definite. I think over the first period, unless you were really old, you'll gradually get a bit younger. So if you're 30 you may end up looking 25. But over a longer time period you'd still age, with the original form of the magic passed to you.

So to put it roughly:

>at 2k years old you'd look 30

>at 5k years old you'd look 35-40

>at 50k years old you'd look 40-45

>at 100k years old you'd look 50-60

so the aging is very slow but it exists.

>>112839

The sensation seem to be subsiding mostly though seems to be reappearing in my head area. Fascinating though when it first appeared as it went over my brain in a almost ache sensation though not unpleasant.

Though my physical sense may be getting more attention do to use so that may be why it’s not as prominent.

I want to live a long time but I don't want to leech off of other people. Is this a possibility?

>>112718

First I meditated on this and then tried to contact you telepathically. This was yesterday. Last night I had a dream about doing random shit in the physical world with some close people and some other random ones until a demon appeared, he said his name (Beelzebub) and that he hates me from the bottom of his soul and deepest hells and that he wants to kill me. He was raging and destroying everything, creating chaos (I can't remember if in another dimension that I could see/sense or in ours, but I don't think that matters. He just couldnt hurt me/touch me). I dont give a shit about demons, religions or any other things like that, never did. But this is the dream I had right after I tried to contact you. No clue what it means but I wanted to share it right when I woke up so I don't forget it.

>>112851

Humans are the worst leeches in the universe so you shouldn't worry about it. It's a matter of doing it right on the larger scale. Say if you live a long time and supprt a stable human culture, then it doesn't matter if you leech some off it because you're making up for it.

>>112853

3 people actively contacted me last night, out of whom one was probably >>112838

because he used actual words and sentences while the other 2 only made a "hail" so one of them is likely to have been you then.

Your dream, just as this one

>>112816

revolves around facing a dangerous creature. I didn't consider this, but of course, a lot of people are actually destined for hell, having this magic effectively change them would change that fate. It would piss off a lot of demons I'm sure.

>>112857

What about snakes, are they significant, cause I did have a pretty interesting dream about snake people and one becoming some kind of beast.

And how my mother keeps telling me to stop considering my brother my brother.

>>112861

There was some kind of important figure I was visiting and the figure at the point was three snakes of different hues and color connected and wearing a red robe, he said something like “thank you for being here in my last moments of me being sentient” something like that.

I know I had to have the giant snake monster because no matter what I did I couldnt escape the island. I tried a redo to before it transformed but both after and before the rocket ship took off and smashed back into earth.

When I tried to drive around my mother said to not bother finding my brother and eventually I drove into a secluded part of the woods where I faced the massive snake covering the woods”

Oh and it might not be it but when I try to go to sleep but I have not yet entered sleep I’ve been hearing a lot of my mother’s voice despite knowing she isn’t saying anything in the next room.

Could that be a sign?

I have been seeing creatures in my room with my third eye… very large minotaurs… ancient men cloaked in ragged old robes holding a cane standing in my hallway… they both said they are part of the cabal so I didn't banish them despite their…strange… appearance… I've been meeting people though I don't talk to them… on a bridge… in the forest… at 4 in the morning… a silent awqard exchange of frightened shuffling… then she was gone

>>112815

Humans can't go on forever without social contact. It would be a shame for their mouths to atrophy.

>>112866

Have you had any dreams about a queen? Maybe her butler with such strange but beautiful blue eyes?

>>112857

I was one of the guys that sent out a simple hail yesterday. I haven't done anything related to telepathy before, so I simply focused on the word "contact" and the opening post.

I'll post what I experienced.

My mind felt clearer and faster shortly after sending it out. I was a tad bit tried at the time I tried, which went away near instantly and left me wide awake. I practiced a while on separating external thoughts from my 'true' thoughts since you had mentioned that here.

I went to bed, despite me not feeling sleepy in the slightest, and woke up at 12:41 AM. Considering the time I went to sleep, that's perfectly normal. I got up much easier than usual and I was still energized and focused. I went out for a walk and didn't see anything strange while doing it.

The rest of the night, starting at the walk I took, was nonstop thinking about magic. No demons rising out of hell for the sole purpose of insulting me or funky dreams.

My mind is definitely feeling the best it has felt in months. Thank you for that.

>>112869

I rarely have dreams but I did mentally meet the queen while awake. She helped calm my nerves about this whole vampire business. She feels nice. I like her.

They said they can change their forms to make themselves look more pleasing so naturally a fox showed up to be my friend. If joining this cabal means I get an imaginary fox friend then I suppose I will keep the spell.

I personally think this whole psychic vampirism thing is silly. Why steal energy when The Sun has so much for this entire planet. I've had a difficult time for years trying to harness its raw power but my body can't handle too much. Perhaps a cabal like this is something I need to spread it out.

>>112873

Oh ya?

My dream was of a young women in a fur coat and early 20th century hair.

I tried to ask he butler something but he was off out when I told him he had pretty eyes and I messed up my second question. He just locked his little window and that was it.

>>112874

I tried invoking Saturn but no one wanted her gaze :<

They don't want me to invoke the Angels of the Celestial Spheres either.

>>112875

For what purpose do you do that?

>>112876

It's part of my daily cleansing and protection ritual I learned from BearHeart… I have to take out the angels guardians part because they don't want them around anymore.

>>112878

What do you mean?

Who is bearheart and who doesn’t want the guardians around?

>>112880

BearHeart is a powerful guy who has a youtube channel guide with various practices. He doesn't like vampires so I'd rather not be so off topic. Lets just say I have to choose sides eventually. The vampires don't want to talk to me for a while if I invoked the angels.

>>112873

>>112869

Interesting that you both seems to have met the same people. It may be different what part you connect best with. I've seen someone being referred to as Lady -something and "the bavarian" always following her, but I've only ever seen her once, while the guy seems to show up more often irl.

Those I've had most contact with are "the princess", the matriarch and a woman I have no name for. There's also a group of women in traditional dresses and some guys who seem like magic researchers at a temple site. Interactions with them are always of a technical nature like you'd talk to a computer nerd about programming or something.

>>112882

Bavarian?

I perceived him as an oriental, but his eyes were so blue I was kinda put off.

I got a real English vibe from the whole thing so I assumed he was just a servant from a colony state on dream.

>>112885

It may be a different lady, you did use the word queen.

>>112886

I just perceived her a queen, there was no talk.

It just kinda Was the vibe I got.

>>112887

There are gradual differences between princess, queen and lady so the word you came to think of may indicate something about her personality and rank, which is why I think it was someone I don't know.

>>112888

I see and with these dreams is it safe to assume the spell was a success?

>>112889

it does seem succesful, at least for you and the other anon who had quite clear experiences. There is some strong symbolism in the dreams. There also wouldn't be a question brought up of joining the cabal if it hand'nt worked all the way.

This is all as far as I understand, I should add.

>>112891

I hope it becomes successful for the others.

>>112896

I hope so too. Perhaps the vampires in this thread will all get together for /fringe/ vamp meet once we realize this magic stuff is for real.

>>112899

if it is real then I think those who achieve it will probably have 100-10000s of years to meet.

we could do a discord or a irc I suppose, up to op I think.

>>112762

this.

real jews believe in and worship God.

fake jews that worship money and ideal shapes belong to the synagoge of satan (fake character, false idol, false religion)

the bible mentions this at least twice so look it up.

guys this is a trap. immortality is not true immortality especially if you're doing it here on earth, regardless of the dimension of this reality

don't buy into cool powers because all it will do is get you trapped here like a cuck forever and you WILL get bored and want to leave one day but be unable too.

remember the bible verse? "men will want death but it will escape them"

>>112908

You will be able to leave, but it will take time. Following mainstream religion won't lead anywhere for most people, they just reincarnate or worse, so they have no advantage at all. This way you'll keep your memories and skills until you can definitely finish here.

>>112901

Do it if you like. I prefer staying anon.

>>112912

Post any updates on changes, if you feel any, for sharing and research.

Interesting, seems I’m consistently having 3 dreams a night that Are getting easier to remember. Before this I rarely dreamed and could barely remember them.

The first was Jesus, simply saying there is no one before him.

The second was where I was an anime character delivering an ax to another one but I had to squeeze myself through some tunnels to do it. The character I delivered them to was wheelchair bound for some reason. Some sort of tension there but I felt like I was to be a knight, some sort of protector.

Perhaps my own subconscious is struggling between deeply rooted ideas and what it is coming to.

Anyone else having strange dreams?

What is everyone else’s experiences so far?

I'm walking correctly now and it's changing the way my back operates. My youthful ninja vigor is starting to come back and I have been getting suggestions from vampires to change my fursonna to a cat instead….

I realize now that my wardrobe is terrible and I can't stand to wear these clothes anymore. I need to be… impressionable……… AHAHAHAA oh man I really am turning into one am I.

>>112924

And here I though a blood bat would be the obvious fursona for a vampire :^)

Stop this LARP please. If you want to be a "vampire" then drink human blood. Can't be your own. It is more potent if the victim is feeling a strong emotion when the blood is extracted (extreme fear, orgasm, grief, fury). The hormones and other molecules that are intertwined with these emotions will affect the high. The cleanliness of the victim is important too. Diseases obviously thrive in human blood, and tainting agents like drugs and shitty food can lower blood quality ( alcohol is considered acceptable in adult victims for some reason maybe thinned blood or taste or something ). Age is a huge factor: the younger the victim, the less debris and pollution. Race is big: the nobler the race the more potent the blood.

When you drink blood you get a really intense high. It's very addictive, even after one experience. Not sure the duration of the high nor its characteristics.. all I was told is that it can deeply affect your life and that it is very intense. Not sure how much of it is a placebo effect from the violent precursor to the act not to mention the millennia of mythology and its taboo nature. I could entertain the idea of it being a survival instinct: when a human is drinking blood, that means it's either very desperate for nourishment or it has achieved complete dominion over another human. The brain might be hardwired to go into a more focused or perceptive state after such an act. There are obviously large amounts of psychoactive molecules in blood, but I don't know how many of them would survive the acidic environment of the stomach. Also the injection of blood apparently does not produce the effect as intensely. Seemingly it is the act that triggers the brain's response, similar to sex, fistfights, etc.

Evolutionarily, I would imagine it is similar to brain eating. Early humanoids waged vicious wars and genocides on each other. These wars were quite literally fought with tooth and nail, and rituals started to develop: music, dance, art but also cannibalism, sorcery and sacrifice. Vampirism being among these takes no stretch of fact or imagination. It is everywhere in the animal world; it is a depraved act of blatant arachnid dominion. Evolutionary reward for such behavior probably goes back to pre-eukaryotic ages. Human-specific reward for vampirism is probably at least 100,000 years old.

The revulsion for vampirism is beneficial for humanity and easily justified. People getting high on the blood of young girls just before or just after killing them is nauseating; the centuries of legend all around the world probably revolves around the fact that vampires tend to be depraved, cold, intelligent murderers. Civilization cannot be sustained in an environment that accepts vampirism.

Tl;Dr vampirism doesn't require particularly complicated sorcery; merely absolute predation.

I should add that there are heavy curses that are levies against vampires by ancient and modern sorcerous institutions. Most intimidating of these is the Vatican. If they find you, they will chase you and and abduct you and burn you alive.

Does this works for beginners?

>>112926

That's fine. You can hunt down the one's running on the failed version of the spell. They'll die sooner or later anyway and they're not upholding the universal balance. I've seen claims some of the bombing campaigns during WW2 was targeted at such vampire populations. They're still pretty nasty and skilled in occult practices so don't act rashly.

The real line spread in this thread you can't do anything about. You can't attack a being who can alter time and space and control your mind.

>>112927

It works for anyone with even the smallest enlightenment potential.

I don't understand some things, what's the difference between the "true" vampires and the "ones"?

If I decide to use the spell, do I need to drink blood or leech someone's energy?

>>112932

>fake ones

Fixed.

>>112932

No.

The OP states clearly that the bloodlust has been removed in this version. It also explains the difference between the original spell and the failed versions created in later times, just read it again.

I express clear intent to receive your spell. If you will not see this post in this thread and reply to it, I will try my best to contact you telepathically and express the intent only in my mind, even though I have never really tried such things before and I am not sure if it will work. I will also post updates if I feel anything happening. Thanks for your service OP.

After doing what OP said, I felt a little hot

>>112944

Well for me it's my forehead that is kinda tingling, like something is happening with my third eye. But might as well be placebo or just as well be just an effect from too much caffeine. Not really sure. I think I go to sleep soon and see if I feel sth then or if I dream sth weird.

I just tried it. Definitely feels like I have more energy, and I seem to feel different in some way.

Could just be placebo though, I don't know.

>>112926

evil shit that happens in hollywood

>>112951

So let me get this straight…the angels abandoned you because you are turning into a vampire? That's crazy….and also why exactly would they? It's not like you are turning evil or something.

btw maybe being a vampire will help you stop smoking lol

>>112960

>>112948

The autocast function should be doing its job now. I'll give it a push manually as well tho to make sure.

>>112960

Idk how they'd block real abilities since they come directly from your soul. It would only have effect on inborn abilities in your body, so anything from here wouldn't be effected by that.

>>112971

Nope. That's up to your willpower. I've seen one of the 1000+ year olds smoke cigarettes.

>>112974

Much gratitude. If anything noteworthy happens with me, I shall report back here. Let's see I guess.

>>112974

>>112944 here

After that, I felt nothing, I slept and didn't dream of anything

>>112974

Do you think besides the ones that pointed it out that they might be watching any of us?

>>112961

Two gunshots rang outside my window as my brother had to watch me die. I clutched my chest feeling a tingling sensation coupled slight jabs of pain. My brother and I were relived when I stopped clutching my chest until that same feeling emerged in my brain. I knew this was the end and said goodby as I felt it wash through my grey matter and down my spine. Next was my digestive tract and stomach. I got up to dry heave but I didn't eat anything all day so there was no mess. I threw up my middle finger at my brother as it took my balls. My teeth chattered when it got my other organs like liver and kidneys. Last was my legs. When the stabbing, tingling sensation subsided I stood up feeling empty like a lvl1 pokemon. All I could think about was my brother's aura and how it drew me to him. I pleaded for him to be my first feed but being the crazy conspiracy nut he is, he just said no and left. There's sustenance from my dog, Tera, and Saturn considering how I'm now barred from the Soul Star… though I see now why vamps want human energy so much.

>>112990

Explains the video you attached. One must truely be cut off from the soul star to be able to listen to this shit.

also…

>first thing as a vampire is to feed of ones own brother

…lmao. Don't kill your doggo tho

>>112990

Is that a dream?

>>112993

Most likely roleplaying for fun and trolling

>>112994

Whatever. how was your dreams, were they good?

>>112995

To be honest I feel no effect still. I posted my dream already in the nofap thread but here is all I can remember: I was hanging around with some dude, or being and I kept complaining about how much nofap sucks and how horny I am and that I hate being celibate, I wished I just could masturbate to all those hotties on the internet (porn and hentai). Yeah it was a weird dream but I guess not related to this vampirism thing. I still hope something will happen, it would be a shame if the spell proves useless on me.

>>112998

Hope it works for ya.

Did you feel any effects on your energy body?

>>112999

I am but a mere mundane, how do I even feel/see my energy body? I was tired and almost fell asleep earlier, but now I feel energized and alive. Also my forehead/third eye was tingling all the time. Nothing special, it may all be placebo.

What about you? Did you receive the spell, and if yes did it have any effect on you?

>>112998

Same thing here

I had a dream about when I was in the highschool but i think doesn't have much to with the spell.

I don't know if I was doing right or not

>>113001

>I don't know if I was doing right or not

same, but op said you don't have much to do anyways, the spell will do all the work necessary itself and it may take some time.

>>112993

>>112994

I'm probably insane so I try to include people in these experiences to make sure. My brother heard the gunshots and so did I.

>>113004

So if you are legitimately turning into a vampire, care to explain more? How long did it take for you to feel the first effects? What is different for you now? Did you appearance change? Have vampire hunters tried to kill you?

>>113000

Energy body is just your energy which is consciousness which is your senses.

Energy=Consciousness=something.

But essentially it is just being conscious of your body perception. Like if you scratch your hand you’ll focus on the sensation, sorta like that.

Anyway ya, I felt the same effect on myself though it lasted until about midday the next day.

We are just days in so let’s see how it goes, don’t lust for results it will just lead to irritation and doubt.

>>113004

Well I doubt you got shot so relax,

>>113006

IDK what the fuck is going on. I just can feel something is definitely not the same since I made that agreement. Entities whom I've never met before are appearing and tech is malfunctioning randomly. I can't fucking stand religious symbols now so I have to leave the church I was going to. I'm losing lots of weight because I simply disgust food now.

Members of The Hunter's Lodge like BearHeart haven't killed me outright and I'm staying the fuck away from black magic rituals for that reason. Sure, demons have no effect on me now but I know how summoning them can catch the eye of the Hunters.

12/18/2017 I started the agreement. Time of death: 10:01pm 12/20/2017

>>113009

That's awesome my undead friend. So it seems it took you 2 days to die? Well I guess I have one more day then to live. Any advice you can give what I should do (while I can?) or how I can prepare? Ya know my forehead is still tingling and I was sick in the stomach a little while ago. My ears kinda hurt like it's a big pressure there and now I think I am starting to feel weak.

If I ever end up like you and this shit actually works we should def meet up. And I just heard a loud noise outside too like firework going off…or a gunshot. Crazy. Synchronicity coincidence?

>>113008

I can't feel my heart chakra so I can't do all sorts of meditations damnit. I have to do solar plexus meditations now :/

As long as your physical heart is still beating and your body is alive and warm..you are living. Don't worry. You can do third eye or crown chakra meditation then, those are very important chakras too and you'll need them for your psychic abilities.

>>113010

Welcome to The Vampire Cabal I guess. Like I said I'm not sure where to go from here. It would be nice if OP gave some advice or something.

>>113013

Not so fast my friend, I am still living. If I actually join the vampires I will know and I'll post it here, until then I'm just observing and chatting here with you guys, trying to learn more. Maybe I am delusional and nothing will happen. We'll see. Of course you can keep us updated as well.

>>113012

My heart chakra seems to be frozen in place and my soul star is barred with some sort of gateway thing.

>>113016

Well I guess that's what happens when you turn into an actual Vampire. Honestly I didn't expect it to be completely free from drawbacks.

But what about food now? OP said the bloodlust is gone, so you shouldn't feel the hunger for blood right? You hunger for energy? Do you still eat at all? Curious about this.

>>113017

Yes I hunger for energy but not blood. I caaaaan eat but it's just to keep myself fromm looking like a skellington too.

>>113018

Will you think of a nickname for yourself like "spike" or "alucard" or "blade"? Also don't forget to grow long-ass hair and if it doesn't get white at least dye it white.

Now on the serious side, what about lust? And sexual desires? Have they changed so far? I am not really sure what this spell does exactly and how the real vampires are but you know the myths always protray vampires as very lusty beings.

>>113010

you aren't gonna die for no reason, ok.

I was the first to agree and I ain't dead mate. I know, I have a pulse. don't get too worked up until you realize what is happening on your own terms.

>>113009

This actual original magic makes you immune to whatever these hunters could do after activation. Since this is /fringe/ after all you're likely to experience this stronger, a mundane may not even know they went through any specific change. Even at the very beginning other people will not be able to target you with ill intent directly on. Vampirism in principle places you on the very top of the food chain, so you can't be hunted, if you get what I'm saying.

>>113013

They're likely to give you hints. But remember they're all insanely old. They probably don't even feel a decade passing so if you hear nothing at first, keep this in mind, their perception of what is a long waiting time is likely different to someone with a human viewpoint.

>>113017

The original spell used blood, so people developed bloodlust. At the start this didn't matter because in primitive times cannibalism was common and no one thought twice about it. It only became controversial in the last few 1000 years. Most cultures before had blood sacrifices in their religions so it wasn't a big deal. A vampire is also technically not human so human morals don't apply, it's not cannibalism if you're not the same species, you see?

The spell used here includes an updated original spell that uses your own blood flow so you don't need to consume it. One version developed by me is based on the circular process of the female procreative system, because it was the most reliable thing I could come up with. The researchers at the temple made another version based on the interaction of male and female sexuality because they didn't personally like my way of solving it though they respected the ability to solve it.

None of these require physical material for their function, rather it's drawing on these processes in your own body.

>>113020

I was aiming to be a buddhist monk before discovering this so I was already celibate. So I can't tell what differences there would be, though I have had hints that the real vampires (not sure if this term should be used anymore after the bloodlust is gone) are simply unable to have sexual interactions apart from blowjobs in the physical. This restriction doesn't go for dimensions beyond so once they get the ability to go there they can do whatever. What causes the issue is unknown to me, I haven't either tried it out for reason stated above. Or maybe this is a disinterest manifesting.

>>113024

Lmao you won't be if the spell worked because you will age much, much slower. And if the spell doesn't work, so who cares? Just as you said yourself, don't get too worked up on this.

>>113023

thanks for the post vampire op

>>113020

It may just be my nerves but I don't feel any lust at all. It's a quite liberating feeling really. Doesn't stop me from being a power bottom :p

>>113021

Okay okay you're right. I should just chill out and let the spell solidify.

>>113026

your question did raise the question, are our hearts gonna stop?

>>113023

Thank you for the tips OP. To be honest I have an inferiority complex so being top of the food chain will take a lot of getting used to.

>>113027

I still have a pulse and I'm warm apparently.

>>113027

All autonomous bodily functions will keep going, but not in the way you think, because some things are falsely seen as autonomous but in reality functions by learned patters created by social conditioning. Your ways of reacting to some situations used to be one way but now the body won't have that reaction unless you tell it to. You may still feel something but it isn't hardwired into an actual act.

>>113029

I am actually on my way to become a permanent celibate too, no sex no masturbation no orgasm. Lust was always a hindrance for me, a chain to the mundane. What a relief it would be to get rid of it for good and be free. Not that I didn't enjoy orgasms, it's that i realize being celibate is the true way to obtaining the elexier of life.

>>113029

do we ever get considered "family" at some point maybe 2-3 thousand years?

>>113031

I consider you guys my family ^.^

>>113031

>>113032

>>113029

I raise my tinfoil hat to you guys and wish you a good night, or day. Whereever you live. I'll check back here from time to time in case anyone has some interesting updates or if I want to post my own updates. Cheers

>>113034

see ya, I'll probably go back to doki doki literature club myself, keep /fringe/ open though.

>>113035

Don't let it fuck you up. SPOILER: If you fail you have to reinstall and start from scratch. The only way to win is to make all girls happy before anyone dies.

I don't feel different at all.

Dreams, headaches, burts of energy, nothing.

>>113037

thats ok, I've already chosen the one I want. what do the other ones matter as long as I get what I want.

>>113044

Having seen an anon play this game over a few days while discussing random stuff and posting constant screencaps, I'll just say: yyu!eufuegygdyeg

Remember what I told you here >>113037

later.

My astral abilities definitely have been enhanced. Sure I can't get a boner or fall in love but now I can instantly astral travel and keep the experience going so long as Saturn keeps my power going.

Thank you OP! I needed this so much. Thank you God for blessing me with this.

>>113060

Awesome mate, so happy for you. I dreamed about my cat who went next to my bed and dropped off a spider from it's fur. Then the spider ran towards me and got huge as fuck and I could not move so I got scared. The spider looked like it was artificial but also real at the same time, it's body was thick with ornaments and it was brownish/golden like. The spider was also constantly making a clicking sound and was vibrating like a motor. First the spider ran up to my stomach but then it suddenly ran up and clinged to my head. When I finally could move a hand I tried to whipe it off of me but it didn't work, I only damaged the spider a little at best. It was soft and glibbery. (then I woke up) Earlier the same night I dreamed that the earth was spinnign way faster and nobody noticed except me, and I saw a galaxy in the sky but it was made of clouds and I thought this galaxy is sucking our earth in like a black hole, that's why it is spinning so fast. First I was afraid to die, but then I didn't give a fuck anymore. Also I dreamed that I went out into town and had no pants on and couldn't find my way back home. Yep…crazy stuff.

Just dropping this here in case anyone is curious. Still not sure about the vampire spell tho.

>>113049

Also I got another question. If you become a vampire, even tho you don't age you still can die and get killed, right? And kill yourself? I hope it's still possible.

>>113062

Earlier in this thread there was mention of a probe entity crawling around his body. I also felt the probe for a while. Maybe the spider is the probe?

I noticed I was having an easier time seeing in the dark when the light went out in my bedroom so I decided to do a bit of nighttime forest adventuring just to see how it is out there. I drew energy from Saturn until I was satiated…maybe just a bit more until I get a little crazy heh… until sure enough I could see just fine even though the forest was much darker before if I remember correctly.

>>113064

I invite you to pick up on my vibrations or connect telepathically through this thread to me and come visit me and my house through astral-traveling if it's possible. I always wanted to know if that's possible and I am curious what you will see if you manage to do it. I will try to pick up on you too. If you manage to do it, report back in this thread.

Of course only if you like. I will continue my practice for astral traveling too and hopefully will be able to do so soon.

>>113065

I could try doing that idk if it would work. I was never skilled enough to make accurate accounts of real life buildings but I can probably make my presence known?

>>113065

So I kept running out of energy and having to go back to get more but I did manage to see a house with someone sitting at the computer. You had a blue jacket with brown hair and a white monitor with a pile of papers next to it. You eventually got up to go into the kitchen.

>>113068

Well I guess the results could be worse lol. I have a book next to my monitor and my jacket has other colors, but yeah I have been to the kitchen actually to grab another coffee. How was the house like, what have you seen about the rooms and the stairs? Or anything else?

Btw I think i will go out soon to take a walk in nature so if you try again you may not find me here for some hours.

>>113069

Pretty nice brown wooden paneling. You did go from the kitchen upstairs into a room but the room looked like the one in my old hose so I guess I lost you. I was expending a lot of energy trying to make my presence known and was wondering if anything happened on your end.

>>113070

I am sorry to say I didn't feel anything. But that's because I have very little awareness or psychic powers yet, so it's entirely my own fault. I need to practice and meditate way more.

Or maybe you were with the wrong person/in the wrong house. Not sure actually, but thanks for the try. See ya later

>>113072

Oh well guess I have a lot of growing to do. Laters bra

>>112718

OP, are you still here?

>>113073

How do you astral travel anyway? Care to share your technique and help me out?

Been trying forever, but I can never attain sleep paralysis and never leave my body. All I can do is imagine that I am somewhere else at best.

>>113063

You got this backwards. You'll still age, albeit very slowly. But you won't die (not in the traditional sense of the word), because the reincarnation process humans normally go through will take place within the cells of your body instead, i.e. you come back in the same body with memories intact and keep going directly with no growing up and relearning stuff as a kid. This saves a lot of time for anyone reaching for final enlightenment. From another perspective even getting into this state requires dying, it's just that you won't switch bodies. Dying is overrated, it doesn't give you any advantage. By the time you notice aging you'll already know how to move between dimensions and basically instant travel between locations in the physical. You're just not seeing it right now, the full view is different from what you imagine.

>>113082

Well I guess I can stop contemplating suicide then lmao. What do you think about my dreams that I posted? They seem very weird and unlike what i dream most of the time. Do you see any connection to the spell?

>>113083

It makes sense that you'd perceive the initial stage of the spell as a spider with ornaments. It's not that it has anything to do with a spider but in your conceptual understanding that's what you see, because you don't know what you're seeing yet. That's how I'm interpreting it. It IS deviced to look all over the person for a part that's closer to its message. It's not an intelligent entity so it just goes methodically over the body until success or until all possibilities are discarded.

Some people need several attempts for some reason, it seems there could be layers of something covering them and blocking the spell.

>>113084

May it be possible to have a guardian angel who blocks this shit out? Someone once said I have a big/powerful guardian angel. But would the guardian angel act against my own free will and without my knowing? And against my benefit for that matter.

Well I will state my clear intent for the spell over and over again every day just to make sure it works.

>>113084

There was one person I wanted included or at least to have a longer life for reason relating to the development of the world, so I just cast the spell on them. First time took a few months and still failed. Then I tried again 6 months later and it worked.

I may talk more about this later, it could be controversial right now. Let's just say it has to do with some projects /pol/ are into that I wanted to support.

>>113085

I don't really know about angels, from what I've heard there's nothing inherently "good" about them. They're just zealots of their own religion who's staying in a plane slightly higher than humans. It's temporary and they'll come back down here as humans later. What they know is limited, so they could try to stop someone doing the right thing based on their current logic.

So, you say that i can get this with a strong focus or contacting you by telepathy.

For the second approach, and by not knowing you, should concentrate into delivering my message to the OP enough?

>>113081

IDK I just close my eyes and activate my third eye.

So I wanted to see if I could channel while out in the sun because I read that magical vampires lose their powers in the sun. I cant draw power from Saturn obviously so I just drew power from Tera instead. I definitely filled me up with plenty of power so I no longer needed my jackets out in this winter weather. I kept drawing more and more until my body started glowing green. Normally, this much energy would have been extremely painful but I seemed to be fine. Fuck it, let's invoke Ra and see what happens. The sun struck me with its bolt of power while I was already topped off with Tera. THAT should have floored me with a grand seizure. It didn't I was fine. Hell I was more than fine. I feel fucking amazing!

>>113087

If the spell can fail then at what point do we know it didn’t?

>>113087

Can I get a big titty Angel gf though, that’s the real question concerning angels

>>113091

Pretty mundane question, what do you need a angel gf with big tits for? Lowly animal desires? But your question above is pretty solid.

>>113089

Oh man you seem way more advanced than me. You are like a wizard grand master compared to me.

>>113092

The big titty gf thing is a joke but I like to think I’m a social person, so I do wonder if communication at all would be forbidden.

>>113088

I'm still here, I can perform it manually for you. Just confirm if this is what you want.

>>113090

You'll realize it when you reach 130 years of age and still don't seem to die or age.

Jokes aside, I would be able to confirm it from looking at your energy, you can do it yourself but you need sufficient understanding of what you're looking for. The area doesn't seem to be properly researched in the current body of occult knowledge known to mankind in this society. The only thing I can say is you need a zero particle, whereas humans live in 3D, there's also hell/underworld, at 2D, light and radiation at 1D. You need to ground yourself in 0D. Then it's succesful.

>>113094

Why angels, if they don't like you? I don't think I've ever seen one.

On another note, one poster above brought up not being able to stand religious symbols and having to leave the church building. I've never had this problem, in fact I have 2 buddha statues, 3 icons with jesus and mary and pics of the pope and francis of assissi with a tau cross in my room and I've never felt anything bad from them. The idea of the catholic church being so strongly opposed to vampirism seem like an exaggeration with this in mind. I also have a few bibles, psalm books and tao te ching on my shelf.

It may have to do with your personal background and what relation you had to these religions before if you start feeling bad about them. Maybe you relied on them in a way you shouldn't have and now you realize that. I cancelled my church membership because I found them to be hypocrites and I didn't want to support that. It had nothing to do with opposing their message in itself.

>>113095

Can you look at the energy right now through this thread? You would be able to see which of us poor bastards actually has the spell worked on them

>>113095

Could you look at my energy body?

For the angels, well, it’s not about them really, “I am” is the vehicle of Identity in this chosen reality that many call fact and many call illusion.

So for me it isn’t a question of why angels, it is a question of boundary, this one wishes for his “I am” to have no limitation to his path/choices. “I am” is after all the central foundation of an identities whole universe so why should it not have its pick in the candy shop?

>>113095

May I inform myself more by reading all these posts? This is because I am starting the O9A alchemical process, and I need to be fully aware of the consequences.

2 hours and I'll give you my confirmation, ok?

>>113095

Are you looking inside me now or what? ahahaha feeling a strange warmth inside me

>>113096

I could, but there's an issue about expectations it would create if I told you exactly what I see.

It could block your development. If I told someone they're not through, the spell may fail and new people may be discouraged to try. This is pretty intricate and I'm trying to not mess this up by saying the wrong things. If you just have a little patience it will be confirmed to you without doubt by your own experiences.

>>113097

I'm not sure what you're implying. If you want a spiritual gf, get a succubus type entity, they can also help you with magic.

>>113098

>>113099

Your thought/intent could have triggered the autocast spell. It may be analysing your possibilities ahead of time.

>>113101

That gf thing is a joke.

It is suppose to play on some meme I kept hearing about.

Anyway gf isn’t what I mean in reference to what I said about choice.

i'd say to stop it, as i was just curious. i didn't give confirmation Lol

I need to know every implication before

>>113103

It's your own choice to accept it anyway, nothing is forced on you. It may simply be that you connected with the egregore of the line of vampires by reading the thread and some of it naturally effected you.

>>113097

My energy body is pretty fucked, tbh, as I'm currently going trough some emotional/ethical conondrum. Posting here to keep track of whats happening.

>>113106

Hope it gets better for you

>>113105

As I said, i am interested and curious. So maybe yes, that could be just me resonating with what is behind this spell. I need to be fully aware of EVERY change and implication that would come after my confirmation, because right now i'm puzzled, as it looks like a jump in the void. I'm attracted to that, it's everything my inner self is seeking since a lot of time, but because of my character, I need to be aware of what will happen.

May i find all the information I need in this wall of text? Or may I ask you to describe what would happen to me, my mood, my character with some examples? After that i can give confirmation.

Thanks a lot, this 3d came in the right moment of my life btw

>>113108

As shown by the previous posters the direct experiences may vary. This may be an extreme case in terms of clear reactions, but still a good description of how violent the change can be

>>112990

>>113004

>>113009

Generally speaking you'll have a mental calm because the main issue in human life - death - has been removed. Changes to your perception of the sexual function may exist, but it doesn't mean actual impotence. Any such feeling would be temporary, I can testify myself there is no physical malfunction. If you experience it, it's caused by pre-existing mental issues, just like some people fail to finish during intercourse despite normal sexual functions.

It can probably be said a lot of what you see as physical issues will appear to actually be caused by your mentality, you just weren't aware of it and treated it as physical. With the idea of modern medical science this makes people feel like they can easily go to the doctor and get treatment. Upon discovering you actually need to change your mental conditioning to fix it, you may feel overwhelmed, but this will solve things like that fundamentally. We are on /fringe/ here so it should be clear to everyone that this is preferable.

That's as far as I can think of relevent "disadvantages" if you want to call them that. But I still recommend skimming the thread to see what other people shared after receiving the spell.

>>113111

I understand everything written here. I am ready and give my personal consent for the spell. My heart Chakra is burning willing to go through this. Please tell me how can I help you, OP, to facilitate the process of your manual spellcasting. I am ready and agree

>>113111

So if the spell works, would it be possible for one to live on completely without food? Well since you can't die…I imagine it would be possible just to survive from energies. Would it be possible to live in a cave in deep wilderness in solitude for ages without having to care for food?

>>113112

Done.

>>113113

Once you manage that you will be able to move to other dimensions permanently. It's a main issue everyone is working on. The original warlock and his apprentice having done this proves there is a way forward. Most are probably staying around here for a multitude of reasons. Some may even have an interest in trying all sorts of food all over the world which is keeping them here, even if they don't need to eat to survive.

It's my understanding you will have a phase after you get past thinking of survival issues, where you'll want to catch up on all the things you didn't do as a normal human and this may take a long time finish when you finally see the possibilities.

Like, myself I wouldn't mind moving to venice to paint for a while but there are so many other things I need to do first. After I'm done with obligations I can imagine so many other things could come up.

>>113114

So you confirm this happening? What do I have to do now?

>>113115

Wait and see.

The rest will be obvious once it starts happening.

>>113114

Could you do it for me too pretty please

>>113116

I'm asking because maybe I can facilitate the process. Can you feel me? Seeing the process starting? I will update you, right now I feel my heart Chakra on fire and tension on my jaw

>>113117

Done.

>>113118

The spell is deviced to be automatic, it will guide you. The message is too complex to write out in words.

>>113119

Thanks very much!

>>113119

I hope to meet you eventually, since you recruited us it would be fun, I think.

Btw is the current matriarch worshiped as a “vampire goddess”? Perhaps associated with the moon?

>>113123

Reading this I must say that I hope we don't have to actually worship anybody. Even tho it's nice that they are cool with you turning random people on the internet into vampires like them and I am very grateful, I am really not the worship kind of guy.

>>113123

At least we'd be able to meet in the closest dimension when we get there.

I actually don't know how the matriarch is referred to. This may be surprising but I think not everyone knows her significance, I connected with her directly to look into her mind, but this may not be something others have been allowed to do. I mean I came in with another angle on it. To me she's an old elegant woman with a really good figure for her seeming age.

>>113125

Adding new people will increase the overall power of the entire line, to my understanding. I don't think anyone has anything to object to that.

>>113126

>>113127

>>113125

>>113123

I still feel my heart Chakra burning like it never did in my whole life. I hope to be able to contact you all someday, also you, OP, even if I tried to contact you by telepathy.

We have to make this work now, and let it do start the process from what I understood, like listening to what is changing and embrace our new life

>>113129

Not sure what's up with all you peoples heart chakras. Why did I only feel my third eye? How can I feel up my heart chakra? I have fear that it didn't work for me because I felt nothing in the heart. Maybe my heart chakra was dead from the beginning? lol

Didn't read all of the thread since it seems to just be a long conversation mostly between OP and another guy. But I'll bite anyway, even though this kinda smells like LARPing.

What can your vampirism be used for except for immortality? Because I am not too interested in that. I'd simply like to see/experience vampirism in action in order to research it. Too much info out there is distractions / LARPing / simply bullshit. Of course I must also ask if you, OP, can provide proof that what you're doing isn't simply LARPing. I'm mostly interested in magical energy becoming physical (and immortality is a bit slow as a demonstration for that) but anything that really proves legitimity beyond a doubt works. Of course I know the placebo effect likes to make this complicated, but I'm sure there are ways to proof that your magic is legit beyond "making people feel stuff".

>>113132

Immortality and enlightenment go hand in hand. Can't have one without the other. This means the proof will not be of a scientific nature, but rather within yourself. After I've made you believe it, you would face the same issue in other people not believing in you. You see? It can't be used for scientific progress, mundane humans are not meant to have this.

To put it bluntly, if you're not interested in immortality for your own sake, this isn't useful for you. Every other thing is a side effect of the core of the matter.

>>113133

The thing is: This isn't my first rodeo with the occult and with groups like this. The reason I ask for proof and for "scientific" evidence is not because I want to give it to the goddamn normies, but because of my experience with such groups. The placebo effect is extremely powerful. And immortality cannot be proven until many, many years in. The connection to the other vampires is "telepathic" and sometimes online. If you look at this objectively it feels like this was DESIGNED to be LARP-able.

There is a difference between scientific progress and testing if something can withstand basic criticism. The experienced mage knows to never simply accept someone elses path, especially if it's a stranger, out of it "feeling nice" and because it's convenient. If something works, proof can be displayed. This, of course, should never be proof which just hands out power for free. One example of proof for a different field I have experienced in the past, for example, had two people, unaware of each other, see the same object through bilocation at the same spot. Stuff like that.

"Proof within yourself", by nature, is not proof, as it can always be the placebo effect. Though of course this effect might as well be called magic if used well enough, since it has the power to kill and the power to heal. But it's not reliable. True faith has to be built upon an unquestionable, objective truth anyone can observe. All the great religions were founded on such proof, if you think about it. It's usually called "miracles" but I wouldn't ask for water being turned into wine or anything like that.

It's nothing personal but with you raising all the LARP-flags and this being /fringe/ I'd be a fool to just join your faith without seeing results first. Too often did a far younger me fall for people who just LARP'd.

>>112718

Interesting. Hear me out a bit. I've had a strong tug to esotericism since I was a kid. Have devoted my youth to studying various related subjects, although sadly I've never managed to have a mystical experience save for a handful of half-assed lucid dreams and a couple of auspiciously successful meditations. Currently working on Kundalini.

Judjing by the last paragraph of >>113023 I can somewhat relate to you - also aimed at becoming a Buddhist monk and in fact still consider this possibility, which means I'm celibate, vegetarian and tackled substance addictions. If it means anything for you, the theme of slowed aging is close to me too (people always commented on how I look ~8-10 years younger than is usually expected of my age; I'm currently 28).

So, that initiation you propose does indeed interest me especially if it is going to indeed allow me to attain real experience of which I have always felt as if "barred" in someway and for some reason. I have only one question though: you see, the goal of everything I do is to be able to escape this concentration reality and never reincarnate (not unconsciously anyway), so will that be a problem/does such a mindset contradict the agenda of the entities/tradition you represent here?

>>113135

Well… I hope you understand the issue here: if I cast the spell on you or if you were to try this out yourself by using the autocast, you'd need the intent to actually accept immortality first. That's the whole point of this thread. It doesn't work with less.

Even if there are some minor stuff I've learned from other members like how to treat a headache, those are all things which can definitely be explained away as placebo, and it's basic stuff anyone could learn. What would that prove? It's pointless.

Lets start with this instead: What is your real goal here? Why research this if you're not looking to solve the problems of life, death and reincarnation? You already said you don't want it to share it with other people. I fail to see why someone would want something and not use it for anything.

>>113137

There is no contradiction. But be aware that it will take time. If you've read the thread you've seen the numbers mentioned. But it's also likely if you can do this, that buddhism wouldn't have worked for you. The paths are very different in essence even if there are surface similarities. Humans have the same bodies and experience similar things, so it looks the same at first.

In contrast it's said some people who started their individual quest for enlightenment have stayed in caves in china for several 1000 years and they're still not done, so with that in mind it may not be so bad.

>>113138

The whole definition of vampirism is to drain energy from something else. Energy-management is something very fundamental and it has more uses than just to live forever.

If I were to practice vampirism it by far wouldn't be the only thing I work with. I've been here a while, I've seen some shit, I got my own irons in the fire. So if I were to include a new system what would be most interesting is the synergy it has with my existing systems. Immortality doesn't have a synergy with astral projection, for example. Being able to more effectively drain energy, however, would be useful out there. Just an example though. Just because I want to research something doesn't mean I don't want to use it. Still, I'm more interested in the experience than the power, but of course the power is part of it depending on the field.

And of course there is also the part of me that wants to prevent newlads to fall into peoples traps or to end up with some LARPing which hinders their actual progress.

If you don't have proof that's fine. All I can do is recommend to new people not to roll with such things. I was simply curious if you'd be all like "yeah sure, since telepathy is involved we can easily proof stuff by one guy sending messages while the other recieves them correctly". Since this seems not to be the case I guess all I can say is: Have fun with your LARPing? I mean, I've been there, and sometimes good things come from it (mostly because the placebo effect is "OP as fuck"), it's just that I don't think that it should be the foundation people build their spirituality upon.

>>113139

>buddhism wouldn't have worked for you. The paths are very different in essence

Can you elaborate on that please?

>>113140

I am using the word "vampirism" in the very literal traditional sense, it has nothing to do with so called "energy vampirism" - that's just a fancy word for stealing low level stuff.

With the changes made the actual blood has been removed as a medium, instead your own body is used as the energy source. The main difference is the convenience for the vampire him or herself who no longer needs to do something socially unacceptable and messy.

I see a few problems with your approach. Even if some of the posters here experienced better results with astral projection, I personally see it as a useless skill. Your body is still stuck here, it's only useful if you can take the body with you. I treat this practice as a mere solution to a problem, not as something amusing to play with. There is also the attachment to different systems. Some of them may rely on your body actually being human and an integrated part of the massive reincarnation wheel, meaning you would lose anything you built up in that system when entering here.

Like this anon experienced

>>113011

I haven't done anything yoga related myself so I don't know the terminology there and didn't experience any loss.

>>113141

Buddhism has a deity and your goal is going to his paradise or to build your own along a set path.

What you do here gives you a foundation close to the human world and then you can do what you want after going beyond that. Your own true personality decides rather than external or objective principles. It's complicated but gives you freedom of choice to customize your own future, you don't just become a boddhisatva or buddha and follow their rules.

>>113129

If you eventually want to actually die, using this would probably do this trick.

I accept immortality, make me a vampire.

Please stop bothering me I don't want to kill any more of you.

>>113149

Why are you gonna kill us?

>>113152

I'm not going to kill you.

>>113153

Excellent, who are you killing though?

>>113142

I find it far more important to preserve mind and soul instead of the body, as you will just recieve a new one in your next life. Being stuck in this world forever doesn't sound very appealing either. And the systems I work with have nothing to do with being human, either. And what's wrong with doing something for the sake of fascination? Why live (especially forever) if it's not fun, other than maybe for the sake of fighting for an ideal?

As for astral projection being useless: Through it you can enter and possess other peoples bodies temporarily (especially helpful for making people see the world through your eyes and you seeing theirs), meet spirits, more effectively fight spirits (in case you know anyone with a ghost-problem), gather info, fly (which is kind of the best part) and much more. But I guess this is kinda off-topic here.

Whatever, at this point, this is a complete LARP-thread anyway.

Aside from larpers, how are you going?

I personally hope my reactions are not only placebo effect, but this heart feeling is still there and it's the first time I feel like that. So if you like to larp, larp then. I'll just update you with what happened in the last hours.

Feeling sleepless tonight(I'm in Europe) and still feeling electricity through my arms and legs this morning.

>>113161

Keep waiting and observing, from what I understood it may take weeks or even months to come to full effect. For me, nothing noteworthy so far, will keep waiting. I'll post less itt now so that I don't spam, larp and derail the thread here for the sake of OP and all who participate. If anything interesting happens I'll let you guys know, until then, cheers and happy holidays.

>>113160

If it is just a placebo effect then eventually it will be realized but even so it’s not like it prevents people from working on their own stuff until they figure it out.

Anyway, when I mentioned this to some lhp people I knew they apparently were aware of some sort of cabal so maybe this thread has other purposes even if not the one described?

I’d relax and just go with the flow.

>>113161

A feeling at the heart is THE placebo effect if there ever was one. First of all, emotions - especially excitement - have a huge influence on that area. Not to mention that it is the place where your brain would expect a "spiritually induced feeling". Almost always, in my experience, whenever someone tries to "send energy" to someone else or stuff like that it's the heart chakra where people feel it. If you want to put this magic to a more representive test, for example: Go do some sports and see if your stamina suddenly has significantly increased. After all, supposedly, you just recieved a huge boost in lifeforce. Though I am sure OP will quickly argue that, for whatever reason, "that's not how it works".

>>113164

Too many people have wasted their energy and potential on LARPing when they could have used it to aquire abilities that can actually help them. Not to mention that threads like this one further make /fringe/ look like a general LARPing board, potentially scaring away people who would have been great contributers.

This seems way too good to be true and LARP-y. Just post on an Croatian Agricultural Forum and become immortal! No requirements, no repercussions!

Anyway, I'll indulge the LARP. Do you get any other abilities other than immortality and telepathy? Superhuman physicality or anything like that?

>>113166

Maybe, why don’t you do it and see if it is a larp.

I only found out he cast it on me after I started feeling the effects so I don’t see why I can’t wait a little while doing other stuff.

>>113160

>I find it far more important to preserve mind and soul instead of the body, as you will just recieve a new one in your next life.

The argument isn't wrong in itself but you're missing the point; when reborn you lose your memories and may become a mindless mundane, in the process ruining whatever you created in this lifetime.

There is nothing wrong with fun and fascination, but if you're doing it as a part of human life alone, it's not sustainable. Those emotions are attachments and the cause of your suffering.

>>113165

It does work that way. I already told my story

>>112809

>the instant result was that the weakness in my lower back was gone. I still had to exercise to strengthen but the difference was a feeling of warmth and that I actually could perform the movements without the feeling I may get a stinging pain at any moment.

This anon had similar experiences

>>112924

>I'm walking correctly now and it's changing the way my back operates. My youthful ninja vigor is starting to come back

>>113167

Since you won't die you'll be able to perform magic that would have otherwise killed you, you can take risks you wouldn't dare before. It's also an advantage if butthurt occultists curse you, you'll be aware of their attacks and it can't hit you since they wrongly targeted a human body that isn't there. It's not like you get some super power, you get a better frame to work with.

>>113169

You know what, sign me up my dude. I'll give it a go. I have 'mentally' expressed my intention and I herby do it in written form.

>>113171

Please share any changes you experience for research purposes.

>>113173

Will do.

>>113169

There are ways to preserve those memories just as you claim there to be ways to become immortal. I for my part have enough memories I wouldn't mind forgetting at some point, while I do remember some things from my past lifes.

I find it interesting how many people on /fringe/ claim that others are "suffering" out of nowhere. When in doubt, play the "this can heal your suffering!"-card, I guess.

(Which, btw., you really shouldn't do. Typical handwriting of bullshitters. Look around in other spiritual forums and you'll get what I mean.)

>>113175

Why don’t you just try it and see, otherwise you can’t really know if it’s true.

You said, OP, that you won't tell us if the spell is working. But would you tell us if it didn't find anywhere to stick, and so have failed?

As somebody else said, I will just lurk posting If there will be any change. Who's in for a discord?

>>113177

Because immortality is kind of a permanent thing IF it works. And testing this immortality ain't exactly healthy. Plus I don't think OP's exactly trustworthy, even if his spell does something. If half of /fringe/ suddenly reports back with "HOLY SHIT I'M IMMORTAL NOW GUYS" etc. and they don't report anything suspicious then I might change my mind.

The burden of proof lies with whoever makes the claim, btw.

>>113154

Some stupid bitch drew a sigil trap right outside my front door and it pissed me off more than it should have…

>>113175

I suppose you're unfamiliar with the buddhist

>human life is suffering

the way to end suffering is to develop beyond humanity.

>>113178

All I can see is that there were positive changes to your energy signature so far. It may take as long as 3-6 months for it to fully activate, the 2 days reported in this thread is extraordinarily fast. I normally expect 3 months on average.

But this is a learning process, which is part of why I started the thread. If this works for anyone they were predetermined to reach this state sooner or later imo, so I'm just acting as a tool of the universe in delivering this in a way that works right now.

>>113180

One thing I learned is there are surprisingly many witch covens and others who actually can do things, they're not fakes. Not that they know what they're doing but they have capabilities. I summoned a succubus type demon once for a specific task and some coven tried to block me by turning the demon "back at me" thinking it would be harmful to me, just because it was to them. The demon appeared before me and said

>they pushed me here

and then we both laughed at it and resumed what we were doing.

>>113181

Just because I don't agree with it doesn't mean I am unfamiliar with it.

… wait, let me get this straight: Because human life is suffering, the way out of this human suffering is supposedly to stay human forever, by becoming immortal? Yeah, I don't know. Humanity isn't defined by its mortality for every being is mortal. So I respectfully disagree with that idea, too…

>>113182

Then perhaps you know that the purpose of yoga is to prolong the human life so that you can finish your practice in one lifetime. I know this much even if I haven't practiced it, the same goes for qi gong and taoism, they all focus on longevity. They need to spend so much time on this that they have to live off donations and there seems to be little time left for actual practice. It's just really ineffective and except for taoists the outspoken goal isn't even physical immortality but merely prolonging the life a bit. Achieving this is a means to an end, not a purpose in itself.

What path you choose later is up to yourself, a never ending lifetime isn't bound to a certain philosophy or ideology.

>Humanity isn't defined by its mortality

Yeah it is. Immortals are not humans.

I was going to start a terrible war that would shatter the very foundations of this universe with all this acquired negative Karma… but someone traded me a gold coin in exchange for all of it. They disposed of such blasphemy.

>>113183

If you say humanity is defined by morality, you're saying anything thats mortal is human. Meanwhile what elevates us from being animals is our intelligence and wisdom, not our excellent dieing-ability.

What do I care if the point of yoga is a longer life? Where did I ever mention yoga? I'm not talking about yoga here. Same goes for qi gong and taoism.

Well whatever, I'm out. All I can do is hope that noone falls for some bullshit here, anyway.

>>113169

Hey, I'm >>113143. Did you cast the spell? Because for now I didn't feel any changes. Had several chaotic dreams, but nothing out of the ordinary (mostly renditions of stuff I've seen, as usual) with the exception of all of them being more actiony than usual. None featured a female figure or whatnot, although I might have forgotten.

>>113179

I suppose, we won’t know if we are immortal for awhile though so might be a while.

>>113185

Humans in this lifetime may incarnate as animals, insects or plants in the next, there's not much difference.

>>113186

Yes I did, and like >>113178

all I can see is a change in your signature so far. Let it do its thing.

>>113188

Can you see my signature?

>>113189

You and the guy who talked about regaining his vigor both seem to have most improvement showing. But these are just signs, some that had this successfully done before didn't notice any specific changes at all.

We'll see later on after more people shared their experiences and if it worked, what signs to look for and what other factors are important.

>>113185

Mortality is part of the human-condition. It's not an all-encompassing definition, but to escape mortality is to go outside the circle humanity.

I'm this guy >>112912 >>113106 .

Requesting the spell be cast if I didn't manage to 'tele-push' the button.

I already age a bit slower than other people from what I've seen, but that might just be a form of neoteny.

So I meandered into my brother's room and I told him I'm hungry and need to feed but my room is upstairs and I can't make a link to Tera up there. So I'm just going to stand in his room for a bit. I pulled Tera up through my feet and kept going despite being topped off to save up for when I have to go back upstairs. This made me collapse in a dizzying bliss. I asked my brother if he felt weak or anything and he said no. This made me elated so much that I became unbearably drunk. I started dry heaving whatever blood I drank out of my system…. but it wasn't blood… This made me think I've just done a terrible mistake and stumbled around my brother's room confused. My brother told me to go away so I somehow managed to drag this body back up the steps. Once in my room my drunken state subsided and I became very moody. I went back downstairs and once my feet touched the ground I could feel the energy making me blissful again. Looks like I'm moving downstairs.

I can’t account this but I have noticed I have improved memory and I am able to see figures in my static vision better, saw something clearly I’ve only barley perceived last two years.

>>113200

imo, none, but I guess not everyone sees it that way. It means you need to really finish your path to enlightenment with the body you have now, starting from the position you are in right now, and keep going. It's not without strain, but life isn't anyway. The difference is you can solve it and get rid of all your problems this way. If you're a mundane you wouldn't want that, but rather just be lazy and engage in hedonism until you die and then start over, never getting any relief other than a few days off now and then, but still thinking it was worth doing.

With immortality you just keep going, slowly learning more and more and coming to understand the real nature of reality bit by bit, widening your view and not getting drunk on life to forget what you don't like. So if you're the kind of person who wants to avoid things rather than facing them, it may be painful at first.

>>113201

why do they want to share immortality with people?

Is anything required from you? Like, are these vampires together in a sort of a group, like a secret society, or are they just basically really wise people just enjoying life, do they have physical form? Do you gain immortality of the flesh or a different type, spiritual immortality perhaps?

>>113204

Read the thread.

>Immortality requires disattachment of some kind, meaning to not interfere too much with mundes.

newfig here.

What if I still want to experience some mundane stuff, like having loads of money/ occasionally having sex, would the spell still work on me?

Also, can you give an exemple of what would be too much interference in the life of the mundanes?

>>113202

To expand a very small community. We are talking no more than a little over 100 world wide as far as I know. It won't get crowded. With history progressing this society may disappear and anyone recruited from this time period will be a preserver of the culture of this era. This in some sense makes it logical people on chans should be included since this is, crudely speaking, the essence of modern culture.

>>113212

Things that are an integrated part of being human will be removed from your life. You still have the body but those functions will not be automatic, so beyond the basic stuff like breathing and digestion you have to manually control your body. Human thinking is powered by the fear of death, the idea that you need to "catch the day" and procreate for humanity to survive, in the process creating the future generations you may reincarnate into.

None of this will be relevant to you personally, and you'll find that part of your mind wasn't really you, it was a "mechanic" thing in your body. Your question is based on this part, and thinking beyond it when you have it isn't easy.

This is how you won't interfere, you will not want to. The example used in posts above about a rich person who just want to live a little longer and abuse his position, now THAT would be interference. But such a person is unlikely to succed here anyway, he'd probably get indifferent to wealth and stop thinking that way right away if this worked.

>>112718

OP, I read it 12 hours ago and instantly feeled very attracted to it.

Now my head hurts like crazy and my arms and legs are very sensitive. Is it the autospell?

It's everything I've been looking for in my whole (although short-ish) life.

>>113174

It's been 24 hours and I can't say I feel anything at all. I did not experience any sort of bodily phenomena; no positive effects (like feeling more energized or what have you) nor negative effects like mild sickness (being purged and the likes).

Mentally, also no changes.

I was at the very least expecting a funky dream or something, but nothing there either.

I guess that's my first rapport.

>>113218

Sounds good to me then, I'd be willing to give it a try. If you don't need to drink blood or lust after young women like film vampires then I don't see why not give it a try

>>113219

>Now my head hurts like crazy and my arms and legs are very sensitive. Is it the autospell?

That is a possible effect.

>>113222

Thanks.

Just be patient, I'd expect at least a few weeks for most people, but I guess mundanes are different from people with some occult experience.

>>113219

Would you say it is almost like an ache? The head pain?

>>113236

>>113237

It started as pain, now it is more like an aura. It's not unpleasant, just not familiar. Right now it feels like a circle in the center of my forehead.

Op, did you do something? Because it changed from pain without a proper transition, like one moment was hurting the next it stopped.

>>113218

I see. Thanks for the reply.

I am willing then. I accept immortality.

Could you cast it manually just to be sure?

>>113218

By the way, I give my consent too, even if I think it already triggered and sticked.

>>113238

>>113242

It was probably already active from the autocast but I gave it an extra push to speed up the initial process manually. As I explained it seems like some people have many "layers" of something blocking them and while the magic itself can work its way through, it's going at the lowest speed if left unattended.

>>113241

I do that when I see someone ask. The idea was to try and automate it eventually so that when knowledge spreads and someone shows interest they can receive it without anyone getting involved. It may sound mysterious but basically the "function" means summoning a spiritual being into existence with the purpose of maintaining this spell. It/he/she will do so no matter the circumstances so it's a safe against losing communications later on.

>>113243

Thanks OP. I hope the path I'm going to follow will be able to explain all the weird stuff that's been happening for all my life.

>>113243

Could you please give me a push too or check on my status (if it won't bother you too much)? Because I don't think I feel anything special yet. I'm >>113137 >>113143

> some people have many "layers" of something blocking them

Btw it was once suggested to me by someone that I might have something like that.

>>113247

Done already when you posted before. I don't see a problem, but how deep it digs can't be told right away.

Someone I wanted to support with this had it working on him for 6 months and then it seemed to fail. I waited like 2 months and made a new attempt and this time it broke through to him. I think it has something to do with karma, it's just something the person has to wear down on over a period of time in some cases.

>>113238

It might be odd but just observe the sensation.

It’s probating you.

>>112718

So, you claim you feel a distinct energy signature behind every poster on an anonymous imageboard? How exactly does it work?

What else can you "scry" that way? An approximate location/distance from you perhaps?

Or at the very least it should allow you to easily discern samefags, right?

Care to check it out? I mean, if you are not a LARPer, pointing out a samefag or telling a poster where he is from would be all the proof needed, don't you think?

>>113250

I only see what's at the very front. It works with people on tv or photos as well as anything slightly personal.

I've done these threads on 4/x/ before to give people a general reading from posting their hand to try it out.

Some people can change their signature pretty easily. We tested it and he put on different cloakings and I described them to him because he didn't know what it looked like from outside. So there is no way to know if someone is samefagging, it's the same as using a proxy server. I'm just assuming here that people who ask for a reading are not cloaking themselves and ruining it, that would be silly, don't you think?

You shouldn't have to ask this if you knew anything. I mean it used to be very common that some assholes cursed or otherwise attacked posters on here for merely sharing info.

>>113251

To keep you up on it, I had this horrid dream last night, purple lightbulb shaped scaps were falling off my body and I couldn’t help but think I had the bubonic plague.

Maybe that is something.

>>113252

Sounds like some serious body cleansing.

>>113253

That’s always good.

Very interesting. I triggered the autospell five days ago (19th) and have found it to have quite a powerful effect, most notably a surge in willpower and determination to advance myself. I purposefully stayed out of the thread until this morning to see how things would develop. I wrote out a long post detailing my experiences but realized after writing it that it was stained by my perceptions at that moment and overly long. Suffice to say that I have made basic contact with something/someone who lead me into performing several rituals. I can post a detailed account of my experiences over the past few days if desired.

I do have questions for OP based on what I went through. First, do vampires sleep? Second, “Sanguineous” - and associated ritual - ring any bells? And finally, if you are so inclined, could you send me an image of the matriarch? I have been trying to visualize her but her form escapes my grasp. I can answer any questions you may have as well. Many of my early 'symptoms' are similar to the accounts of people posted here, but there has been a clear divergence after I committed the rituals that were suggested to me.

>>113277

>they tried to block me at first

Who tried to block you and how exactly did you persevere through it? Since I come from the same background as you I might face the same challenges as you.

Also can you check on my signature? You don't have to tell me if the spell works or not, just maybe if you would be so kind and the spell doesn't work would you cast another manual spell on me. I'll keep lurking and waiting. Btw I feel like I am getting sick now, not sure if that has anything to do with the spell. Feeling of weakness, slight headache and so on.

>>113277

Ok, reading this I understood the layer you were talking about. My relatives are very christians and used to make a lot of "christian rituals" (prayers with salt and oil) to "protect" the family. I need to overcome this.

>>113278

There is no problem with your signature, it still has the flow of the spell. I think you're just one of the people who have little to non surface effect, or very slow. Remember it may still work and the only thing you'll notice is you didn't age when looking back 10 years from now.

>christian rituals blocking etc

The cabal themselves treated it as an attack when I reached out to them.

I later got to see their perspective on it from their own experiences in history. They consider christianity to be an evil religion because to them it's a practice that persecutes, tortures and kills people. People believing in it doesn't make it look better to an outsider, the mundane side of it really is horrible.

I could never understand this part before when atheists started talking about religion creating wars and corruption, becaue obviously that isn't the purpose. But I never really followed what went on in the church's organizations, it took a long time for me to even realize other people don't see it from my view. Whenever I saw dregs going to church for whatever non-faith related reasons, I considered them to be an exception and didn't care about it. It was only last year I finally saw the church is totally rotten and doesn't follow a single rule set up in the bible. It's filled with mundanes treating it as some club for gossip and social status. After I realized the true state of it, I cancelled my membership. I'm not against the ideals of Jesus and Mary but it seems not a single follower even tries to live up to it, save for some monks and nuns isolating themselves in monasteries, and even then it seems they have a hard time actually doing it.

TL:DR

Hypocrites took over christianity long ago and if you associate with the mainstream version of the religion you're spreading sin.

>>113281

Thank you very much based OP. I haven't cancelled my membership yet because I just was too lazy to go to town and do it since there was no need to and I am also not paying church taxes as of now. But mentally I don't consider myself a christian for a long time now. I think now is the time that I finally go out and cancel it, would also be a nice sign to the vampire cabal and basically whole universe that I am free now.

Well, I keep lurking and working on myself and my magick skills meanwhile.

>>113281

Of course the church is corrupt.

What do they think of the ideals of Jesus himself though?

Could you read my energy too.

Oh and to keep up to date, my static vision seems to be developing better.

I am starting to see shapes in it easier.

>>113222

It's now been more or less 48 hours and still nothing -nothing I have been able to perceive at least. It seems I'm not a quick bloomer as some of the others supposedly are -which is fine, it's a slow and subtle process according to OP, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt- so I'll probably report back in a week, unless something significant happens.

>>113286

Start meditating on it.

Breath in through your nose deeply for three seconds in and three seconds out and keep this going for a while. While doing this start to observe the emerging sensations on your body.

Perhaps that will tell you something.

>>113287

I'm not going to play along with the LARP. The premise of the whole ordeal is that you need to do nothing at all except express the intention to initiate the whole process. If I start fiddling I'm sure I can summon all kinds of phenomena but that would be contrary to the initial premise.

>>113288

The breathing exercises are just to be more aware of your conscious body.

It isn’t meant to cause anything but increased awareness of yourself.

>>113284

>Could you read my energy too.

The image is meaningful but hard to describe conceptually, let me try:

It seems you are stable in yourself and developing in the right direction individually, but you are disconnected from the bigger context. I can't quite find the right words, maybe like a sleeper cell though in a good way.

>>113286

It's normal, you don't have to do anything. Checking back in a week is fine.

>>113290

Sleeper cell?

As in I’m hidden agent or something?

>>113291

It's a complicated thing to describe, if you treat "agent" as a neutral word maybe.

>>113292

>>113292

I'm a hidden subject then.

>>113290

Can I ask you to read mine, too?

>>113296

Assuming you're the same who said you had a layer blocking you before, it seems pretty thick tbh. If it is a mere layer of your own.

It looks more like you're in an igloo or something, keeping a small fire alive inside while the spell is working on the outside.

It's coming from outside from the looks of it, it's some really nasty white energy, so it could be religious fanatism creating this, if it makes sense from your local situation. Do you have any possibility of moving outside of this field temporarily? That may help. Going back after the magic already reached you won't be a problem as it'll deflect energy like that after forming closer to your body.

Could you check mine out too please

>>113297

The accuracy of this post is incredible, for real. Any advice how to move out?

>>113298

Did you post before?

>>113299

I meant simply move temporarily outside of the field's influence, like change your physical location for a while. Maybe take a long walk up on some hill or into an abandoned or wild area with less human activity. That should work for mostly anything created by humans. If you can't do that, try to think of a place where the ideas you're escaping has no power. You should be able to feel it inside once you're free from the direct control of the field, in your mind relaxing and so on.

>>113300

Yes, here: >>113117

>>113302

Right. I didn't recognise the flag.

It seems you have an ok stability of mind so you don't really need external support. There is some kind of field like this anon has >>113279

but you're on the outside and the field is in submisson so there is no problem. It looks like you are on a mountain with the sun at the horizon, if you want an image of it.

>>113277

After contemplating the subjects in the OP, focusing on the implications and details, and meditating on the subjects of immortality and 'true' vampirism, I began to feel the buzzing in my forehead described by many others here. There was no excitement or gush of emotions, and the feeling began to go away as I consciously moved my mind to other subjects. Things otherwise went on normally. Upon waking the next day I found myself with an altered perception of myself and my surroundings. This was not a physical change but a lack of the mental congestion which was preventing me from advancing myself both physically and spiritually. It also seemed that my perception of time had altered in a subtle way, as if time were simultaneously moving faster and slower. My thoughts returned to immortality and vampirism throughout the day. The conclusion that I came to was that an immortal life, coupled with an unbounded inner strength, would lead to a near-infinite track of self improvement and expression of Will. I was able to contextualize my current existence with the existence that awaited me in the future, the realized Will that I would come to embody through time. I was able to complete a lot of important tasks that day. The word “Sanguineous” popped into my head but I dismissed it at the time. The dreams of that night exposed aspects of my personality that others would find unbecoming. This was done through humiliation, and when I woke I was more determined to continue down the path of self-restraint and consistency.

I was not just moving faster and slicing through mental barriers that had made me prisoner, but also investigating new subjects and knowledge. I tried yoga and began keeping a morning routine. In the evening I created two sigils and cast them, one to realize a goal, the other to affirm my communion with vampires. Sleep that night was normal and restful. As I used my time more effectively the next days, many synchronicites began occurring, too many to list without over-explaining the personal connections. But to list a few: Frank Sinatra's “I've got you under my skin” became the default background noise in my mind when not following or creating thoughts. (It's still going and getting to be a bit much). Another happened when I found an old chairman Mao waving watch souvenir (google it). It was waving at me with the clock hands in the shape of a V, despite it not being touched in years and dying when I put it down. The head buzzing kept returning at various times, both intentional and not. Sanguineous rang in my head at random times.

I took to meditating outside at night, trying to further develop a mental connection. I had not explored telepathic communication very heavily before, but I am familiar with the concepts and have practiced with various ESP tests. It was at this time that I seemingly made contact. By focusing my mind on the OP's subjects and associated details I summoned the buzzing. In this state I asked a series of questions by holding them as singular thoughts for some time, then quieting my mind while still focused to see whatever thoughts came my way. I asked a series of questions that ended with the visual suggestion to perform a blood ritual, which clicked when I realized the implications of “lack of blood as the physical medium”. I was switching between contemplating mysteries and my own creative endeavors. Many ideas kept 'coming' to me, visual images as well as creative concepts that were so good it felt like I was being helped more than I was coming up with them myself. After realizing this, I decided to ask if performing the blood ritual was appropriate for me to do. Shortly after forming the question and holding it in my mind, it began to rain. I took this as a yes. When inside, I took a clean bowl and filled it with what felt like an appropriate amount of red sports drink I had on hand. Before I started, I made sure that the intentions in my mind were simple and clear; this was only a confirmation of intent. I darkened my room and turned north while holding the bowl. Clearing my mind and focusing on the liquid, I spoke “Sanguineous”, which in my mind turned it to blood, then drank to the last drop. Upon finishing I immediately went to bed. I will henceforth refer to this ritual as communion.

>>113277

>>113304

cont'd

After taking communion, I couldn't fall asleep. I laid completely still, cold, with the buzzing sensation in my head going wild. My veins felt energized and my heartbeat felt very tense. I cleared my mind and tried to rest, which lead to clear statements coming to me such as "Time is a guide, time is an ally" and "Fear cedes to Will". During this restlessness, I 'intuitively' discovered diaphragm breathing. After thinking intensely for hours, I dozed off and slept into the day. Upon waking I did my morning ritual and resumed my normal life. The only thing I noticed during the day is that I start to get sweaty and clammy when it's hotter than 65 degrees inside. I didn't want to keep sleeping in late so I took a pill (benadryl) to help me sleep the next night. Upon going to bed I immediately fell asleep. Within the first moments of sleeping I fell into a lucid dream that quickly scared me awake. The feeling from the night before returned and I spent another restless night plagued by rushing thoughts, head buzzing, and Frank Sinatra. I had a morning appointment so I had to get up and going. Despite not having rest I felt surprisingly awake and aware that day. Unhappy that fear had roused me, I felt inclined to try an evolution of the communion ritual by merging it with sigil magic. Being more serious/less cautious about my intention for results, I spent some time studying the chemical composition of blood. I used a clean bowl and measured out a pint of water, which to my surprise was the same amount I had poured out for the first communion. I warmed it, blew on it as if giving it life, then added a pinch of salt. When I performed the ritual I put my hands out in front of the bowl, spoke "Sanguineous" which turned water to blood, then faced north before speaking my will, "I HAVE CONQUERED FEAR", and slowly drank until finished. At the end of the ritual I had the very strong taste of blood in my mouth. I went to bed and fell asleep immediately. I awoke three hours later feeling extremely well rested and motivated. Despite having only 4 hours of sleep in the past 48, I felt more aware and alive than I ever have.

That's around the time I initially wrote my post. The way I had worded it made it sound like I could keep going forever, but I did end up getting tired and crashing for about 5 hours. It's the holiday so I'm spending time with family but I will be continuing my progress and making communion in short order. It's been quite an interesting experience so far. My goal is now 4 hours of sleep a night and staying completely busy during waking hours. 20 hours of progress daily, which seems to pass very quickly, but becomes a massive tangle of time when trying to remember everything I've done on a given day.

I have been spending time trying to visualize the two figures you described in the OP. I have also been spending time envisioning their sanctum in the astral, a great dark castle with many chambers. I am not a satanist, but chose the tag for the inverted pentagram. I would call myself a Setian, or seeker of the knowledge and wisdom of Set. I have found black magic to be very powerful and even moral in the right hands. As for organized religion, “church” is the embodiment of lawful evil. I rejected christianity at a very young age. Thank you for the picture. I'm interested in attempting to telepathically communicate further. This little adventure has been my first real attempt out of curiosity and I'm surprised how far it's taken me. It seems to be easier when there is a common ground or mental space for several minds to share.

>>113303

Cool, thanks for sharing.

How long after the transformation is complete before we are able to travel to different dimensions? What are these dimensions like?

>>113306

That anon used redpill flag.

Your signature is very "vampiry" actually, the closest of the posters in this thread so far. It looks very open and clear.

>>113307

I don't know anything about time to reach the first step, but the last takes 1000 years according to the others. I'll line it up here:

>level 1: You will be able to cloak yourself to remain hidden in plain sight, people can't recognize you. This is available from the start but you need to figure it out. It looks a bit like a buckler (medieval shield) egergetically.

>level 2: take a step back into a fixed dimension at your current location, physically dissappearing. You can slow down time to recover quickly or work on problems you need to figure, meditate etc.

>level 3: Move between two locations by a "tunnel" system outside of the physical, for almost instant travel. Doesn't work in all locations, you need to find the right spots.

>final level: jump into a full 3D dimension and move anywhere, jump back for instant travel to any location or manipulate humans by telepathy, this is what they do when you see them as spirits talking to you.

>>113308

Sounds good.

When does the enlightenment part kick in? How would you describe the sort of enlightenment it brings?

OP I have some questions.

1) in the meantime, is it advised to work on our paths and rituals disregarding the spell?or is better to look for signs and just meditate?

2) I tried to contact you yesterday, in order to establish a link with you just in case. It's still difficult because I have just some words on a screen, and linking them to an intention, which is linked itself to a "person" is difficult to me.

3) I don't want to be suggestioned by all of this, but tonight I was smoking on my terrace and by the time my finished cigarette touched the ground I heard a weird noise on the air. The exact time it touched the ground. It was, I think, inhumane: short, aethereal, high pitched. I tried to look for monster sounds and the best I could find is the second sound in this very short video

https://youtu.be/rPSx_cSPw_0

I was thinking about this spell, so it could be just my mind distorting other sound like a car drifting, but I'm just reporting because maybe you can tell me something about this sound that scared the shit out of me.

4) I still feel my heart Chakra burning, it's 74 hours without stop. I think I'll meditate as another user suggested..

Sorry for the long post, see you again in a few days.

>>113309

Enlightenment doesn’t kick in, you must find it.

>>113305

>>113304

Thank you for writing this out. Your observations and your ability to analyze them seems somewhat similar to my own. I think this gets the message across very well, other posters an take notice of this; it's the sheer amount of details all working together that creates your "enlightenment" here (this is answer for your question >>113309 ).

The ritual you describe seems to have come naturally to you and you are letting it play out this way. I also did something like this. Despite the actual blood no longer being a part of the spell, it is in the body of the magic and in a lot of the other cabal members, so it's inevitable that traces of it echoes into your own awareness. I myself felt like I was missing something and bought iron supplement pills for dissolving into water. They turned into a blood colored drink and it did have the copper taste of blood when I drank it. After using up two packages of pills the urge seemed to leave. It later came back in another form and I got some blueberry drinks this time. I think you can solve this any way you see fit.

>>113310

>is it advised to work on our paths and rituals disregarding the spell?

You won't be able to disturb it unless you invoke some powerful entity, but it may slow down if you do thing contrary to the direction of it, by now I think organized religion may cause this. It's not that you can't do it, but keep it in moderation and consider your motivations for doing it and what it may cause in relation with this. There are too many possibilities for me to predict them.

>I tried to contact you yesterday

People do this now and then so I can't know who is who.

Don't worry, this thread's backed up at wayback machine and if 8ch goes down you can use mewch/fringe/ for now.

> I heard a weird noise on the air

This is part of things you'll be aware of, it's from the astral. It can be scary at first but most of it isn't relevant. Sometimes it means something to you, other times you just overhear something.

>4)

I'm not familiar with yoga terminology so I'll assume this is part of being energized like someone suggested above.

>>113303

I must say that right now I'm in a little city in the campaign and I'm feeling very different, more open but more dizzy.

Thanks for the advice

Pretty uneventful Christmas except for the usual neurotic psychosis, which is something I've dealt with long before this whole magical suggestions thing started. I'm starting to realize how shitty the propaganda in movies are.

I'm in. Feel free to reinforce my commitment from your side if you think it's necessary. I will post again if anything extraordinary happens.

Otherwise come to fringebay in a thousand years.

OP, tell me what you think of this. I came up with it the other day and it changed my whole paradigm then and there. If I didn't know better I'd say what a coincidence that happened before seeing this thread.

I was going to post the rundown here but I'm feeling such a strong resistance that I won't. Something's telling me not to go into details.

The thing is, I realized we don't survive death the way I thought we did. I used to think immortality was overrated because of death not being the "end", but it is, actually. Not in absolute terms, obviously, but in a way that I'd rather not experience if I can help it. Not as bad as I thought when I was an atheist but… Fuck. As I try to put this into words it unpacks more and more inside my mind. This is awesome, honestly.

Anyway. The day before I had this realization, I would've dismissed this thread right away. Now I think this is the best course of action for the time being.

I deleted two more paragraphs because the answers to my questions keep unpacking inside my mind. This is a great exercise.

Sage for double post.

>>113333

You could at least explain what's so bad about death in your oppinion. It may help someone.

>>113335

It's not bad per se. You eventually dissolve the way your body does, and "you" come back the same way the atoms that composed your body do.

But as I said, it is immensely more complex. I cannot express it with words yet. You would (and probably already do) understand something different to what I mean just by reading my words and coupling them with your own ideas.

The Egyptians and many ancient cultures mummified themselves. I believe cohesion of the material that has served as a development frame for the thoughtform that is you serves as a way to maintain cohesion of that thoughtform after physical death.

I won't say more because there's no point right now. (And I have to go have dinner with a friend).

>>113336

I see your point. I too have had my own ideas about this and how to "lessen" the severety of death and make yourself ready for death that you don't actually dissolve but keep on going in the astral with your astral body, basically staying intact and whole as yourself.

Anyway, I believe with becoming a vampire and living long as fuck you cannot go wrong. The more time you get to develop yourself and get ready, the better.

I heard the sound of shackles being broken in my mind. It is done.

>>113333

For people who believe in repeating digits, you got that at least ;^)

I'm not sure I fully follow your line of thought here. But from my interpretation of it, seeing this from my view, when you die you normally lose all contact with who you were during your lifetime. Even your personality will turn into a mere memory because it was tied up in the material situation of that lifetime. The artifacts you owned, the people you knew, the places you walked and knew as home, as well as the language and words you used to refer to those things, all of that will be gone as it was stored only in your brain like a RAM in your computer. Once you cut the power it clears and nothing remains.

That's one aspect of it. What you have left is just a vague recognition when you see similar things in your next life, but you can't relate them to anything material or understand them. The most obvious side of immortality is that you keep your memory and your skills and just add to them. But in the end, these human things will evolve into something deeper, something lasting. If language evolves over time, with new words added, new grammar and new ways of using old words, there is something behind this change. It can somehow be predicted based on what you find in the astral, and once you learn these things, you'll be able to understand all past and future versions of this language. This is my own speculative understanding of it.

I'm thinking the novelist Terry Pratchett is onto something with a phenomenon in his books. It's a line of study practiced by wizards of his fictional world, where they predict future books by studying existing books. Silly, but somehow fully possible in some aspect of it.

I am personally trying to access my past live's memories but I've found exactly that, because those things are no longer materially relevant it is extremely difficult to make use of it. If I want to bring back my language skills from another time period, I need to adapt it into today's situation and my current needs, because language and culture are things of necessity. Without fully emulating the exact situation, it doesn't make sense.

almost a week after I did what you wanted, don't feel different tbh

Also, can you read my energy?

>>113340

Yes, your interpretation is very close to what I'm thinking.

Could you do a reading for me please? And maybe give me a little push if you think it's needed? I'm

>>113330

>>113333

>For people who believe in repeating digits, you got that at least ;^)

Would you believe me if I told you I had an intuition that I would get digits just as I started writing that post? :D

>>113350

It looks like steady development according to plan imo. Not feeling anything doesn't mean anything, it's what happens -when- it happens that matters.

>>113351

Your signature is also quite close to the actual vampires, but it's restricted in scope. Similar to >>113306

>>113352

Thanks. Could you give directions in order to learn to read the way you do? Is it different than Franz Bardon's way from IIH?

>>113354

I had the ability from birth, but it was weak at first. I don't know how to develop it if you don't have it. From a young age I've noticed different colors resting behind certain acts and social customs. When I was 6 I went by car to pre-school every day and I noticed a dark yellow field around the sides of the road and the barns we passed. On the "inside" of this field was a dark brown/red field like mud. I also saw this in movements of people, like a trace in the air right after they moved their arm in performing an everyday act. Most of it was dark.

At one point I went to a store run by volunteers from a church, and I noticed the store clerk had a much brighter color behind him and in the movements. The difference to an ordinary worker at a grocery store or factory was huge, they all had a dark and deep hole behind them, like something pulling them down and swallowing them.

Through this I saw early on that money as a motivation is a dark and dirty thing, and I wanted to avoid these acts. I've based a lot of what I do on this, and I can see the difference clearly when I manage to change an environment for the better, as well as if someone does something bad and makes things worse.

Over time I learned to interpret things more exactly as well as seeing complex patterns and identifying it in situations where it wasn't very obvious, like when just seeing a photo of a person or a post on an imageboard.

Large events reported in the news also have corresponding energy signatures, and these are also available for historical events. For example I couldn't understand why Finland would lose to the Soviet union in the winter war, when they were so much more advanced in technology and strategy. But after reading an article in a popular history magazine I saw the full signature of it and realized the russian side simply had purer energy. It doesn't matter what things look like, pure beats dirty, every time.

>>113355

Very interesting, if it isn't too much trouble could you read my signature?

>>113232

So far I've felt nothing, but I woke up yesterday with a sore throat and a runny nose. Somehow I don't think those are the first symptoms of immortality.

>>113355

I see. How I envy you, you lucky bastard! I have a similar thing but instead of visual it's "kinesthetic", and I've had had to develop it in this last year. It's extremely subtle and I have to be careful not to mix up real and made up. The only thing I've had my whole life is the ability to sense presences, but that's pretty common. I'm still learning to balance my projective vs receptive sides. I have also noticed each person is unique in this regard, and written instructions are more often than not useless because they don't account for the idiosyncrasies of the student. That's why personal tutoring has always been the way.

>>113359

You are slightly less than these two

>>113351

>>113306

but still have a pattern somewhat similar to early stages vampires. There is one difference in your signature, which is a turquoise stream going down closest to you. This may be the effect of the spell or it's something you had already which was made more visible. Something like this usually implies trash energy leaving the body in combination with some kind of stability.

To give an example, this turquoise energy is usually quite rare because you wouldn't find a balance like this, but for those people in underdeveloped countires living off selling garbage at the city dump, or those living in corrugates steel sheds in the slum, they usually have it. It means finding a stable existence in an unstable place. Somehow more common in latin america than anywhere else.

>>113367

OP I did as you suggested, went to a low human contamination area and meditated. Do you feel any changes? Because I do, the sense of freedom was incredible, now that I'm back in the city it went down a bit but it's really night and day compared to how I felt before.

>>113369

Yes there is a huge change. Your field looks more like a calm ocean now where as before it was just the signature showing a pattern.

>>113363

>>113354

>Could you give directions in order to learn to read the way you do?

Lets try something. This is purely for experimentation and research. Those in this thread who asked to have the spell cast on them can try this and see if it gives you any results in increasing awareness of energy signatures in your surroundings.

For complete mundanes and those with no exposure to high intense magic like this, I don't expect this to really work at all, but you can still try if you're lurking here.

>close your eyes firmly, cup your hands over them if you need

>at first you're likely to see images jumping around or imprints of windows, lamps and other things

>wait until those start fading

>you're now supposed to see the red/brown/black color of your eyelids and the blood in your own body caused by the light still shining through

>apart from this lack of total darkness, you may experience "static" like a tv with no signal

>observe these "grains" and stay aware of their color and movements

>do you see any other colors than black and dark red?

>do you see anything but random patterns?

>just observe this and stay aware of it

>now open your eyes

>can you still perceive any of the "static" with your eyes open?

>repeat this exercise until you can see the static with your eyes open, like a layer of vision placed on top of your regular 3D vision

>if you can do this, you have the basic ability to see energy patterns in your environment

>you can now try to identify colors and shapes and how those relate to the situations they appear in

>>113377

OP so can you tell us how long it will roughly take until we truely become immortal? I assume since I am only for for roughly over a week I can still die, get killed or kill myself.

Also what if we receive fatal wounds such as being burned alive, getting our head chopped off, getting shot in the head or the chest, drowning etc etc. while being immortal vampires? What will happen to us then? I cannot imagine simply regenerating to normal after you get decapitated.

>>113378

>I assume since I am only *in* for roughly over a week

>>113378

In general for this version of the vampirism magic it should take 3- 6 months but could be faster, down to a few days.

>what if we receive fatal wounds such as being burned alive, getting our head chopped off, getting shot in the head or the chest, drowning etc etc. while being immortal vampires?

It doesn't work that way, once you receive the magic and it's determined you can fully transform, you will be protected. Anything happening in the human world is caused by spirits of some kind, human acts are caused by the human spirit of the person doing it. All spirits will be subdued by the spell and cannot interfere. After being removed from the reincarnation cycle, your body is seperated from the human world by the quality of its cells. These things simply will not happen to you. You will also not be capable of self harm, your mind will not allow it.

You need to think beyond the human deductive mindset to understand this. Everything is spiritual and controlled by spirits, if you control them, you control everything. This is absolute, there is no chance, it's all predetermined based on the interaction of spirits.

>>113380

Alright I am trying my best to fully grasp this concept. But you may need to explain a paradox for me about starvation. We cannot die or be killed, yet we must eat as far as I have understood it from this thread. So can we starve or dehydrate or not? What happens if I refuse to eat or become homeless so that I cannot buy food anymore? I hope you can forgive my mundane iquiries, but it will help me to understand better. For me it's really a mystery, being immortal yet having to eat.

>>113381

Consider it a hierarchy of spirits. You are never at the bottom, so even if you did end up homeless, you'd still have what you need because others would be forced to provide it for you. If someone has it, they won't be able to deny sharing it with you, because they are below you. It just works that way. Society doesn't have a fixed living standard, so it's possible it may be really low sometime in the future. Don't get hooked on concepts like "homeless", people used to sleep in caves or simple huts during primitive times, if that happens again you'll just have your spot there. That's all that it means, your relative living standard is guaranteed compared to the rest of society.

>>113382

Could you look at my energy signature, I did something a few days ago and just hope it didn’t interfere.

>>113376

That's very interesting and relate a lot to something that started happening yesterday. With eyes closed or open i can clearly see a very definite image of 3 to 9 horizontal lines that follow my sights but fades near certain objects/people.

>>113376

Are you shitting me? I've seen that "static" all my life! When I'm relaxed and in a bit of a dreamy state, it appears. Like a film grain filter except the particles are transparent and distort the background, like heat waves. But when I focus my attention on something or someone they vanish. I guess that makes sense since that would mean I break the trance.

I'm going to investigate this. I assume for remote reading you close your eyes like you explained and reach out mentally?

>>113380

>You need to think beyond the human deductive mindset to understand this. Everything is spiritual and controlled by spirits, if you control them, you control everything

I've suspected this for a while now. I've always been disillusioned by the materialist-influenced explanations you usually hear about will, invisible etheric bodies, personified spirits and whatnot. You are the first time I've heard an explanation that makes more sense according to what I've observed.

Damn, this thread is a gold mine for me.

>>113384

I don't know if it matters really but there is now a distinct black downward energy stream close to you. It seems confined to its own space so whatever you did shouldn't interfere.

>>113386

>for remote reading you close your eyes like you explained and reach out mentally?

Closing your eyes is and exercise for being able to identify it at first. I always keep my eyes open when targeting something, but in the case of something not present I visualize it and look at it that way. Say if I want to know what the situation if for Donald Trump and Ivanka I just visualize them and look at the signature of the visualize image. The only issue here is that you need proper accuracy or you won't receive the image of the actual situation over there, so you need to research it properly first. Usually mainstream sources are enough, but in the case of things where history was incorrectly recorded you may not find a connection until you uncover the real situation.

Say if I wanted to look at a city during a certain time period, but it didn't exist at the time or the location was recorded wrongly, then I won't find it.

>You know, the one thing about Buddhism (especially its later advaitic form) that I have always had a personal problem with is that imperative on achieving "oneness" with humanity and such - never felt it, have always been repulsed by the majority of humans, even decided that I must be an elf or other such being imprisoned in a human's body. Partly that's why I eventually drifted towards Chaosism, then Gnosticism, etc.

>>113390

Exactly the same here. Never made sense for me. Also I think it's very good that you are a virgin, I would actually go as far as to keep it forever if I were you but that's only my belief. Won't give any reasons to that here since it's irrelevant anyway. Too bad I wasted mine already.

As for the statics and the colors, I actually see it too. Now that you guys talked about it I tried it out I see the static very clear when I concentrate and when it's dark. I still see it in the day and with light but not as clear, and I see the colors and shapes flying before my vision (and those are not imprints of lightsources). That's pretty cool. Also I tried to see an aura and I saw it rather easily, but I saw only the very first, white/clear layer of it as of now. Babys first aura sisghting if you will. I am sure I need to evolve this and expand this skill. Now I know why my forehead/third eye is tingling so much in the last few days. My astral sight definitly expanded and started to form. Since I do nofap now it might also come from the energy I do not waste but which I keep inside. I still cannot see any spiritual beings or clear, developed auras and I still cannot astral travel, but I guess the beginning is made. Also I have an easier time being celibate now, my urge to masturbate and look at sexy females is still there and I still can get a boner, but it is also definetly weaker. I actually feel now that I am able to resist it easily and don't give in to the urge to look at porn or keep thinking about it. As of now I am even disgusted when I think of vaginas because I just see them for what they are. It's a paradox in me, the desire is there, like an automatic process to rise up but when I put a little conscious effort into it I can easily tell the illusion and even get disgusted by the thoughts of desire. Will definetly try to be even more aware of myself and the changes happening with me and report back here.

>>113389

I guess it makes sense if you wanted to astral project, it should be basically the same thing you're looking at, except you're now in that form. I personally have no interest in AP but I can see that this may be touching on the same area.

>>113387

Do you think it will kill me?

Perhaps it is a mark to shame me for seeking what isn’t mine.

>>113394

I can't tell if - whatever that is - is something that appeared and formed as a negative thing, or if it means the exhaustion of something which already lay latent and is now in decline. It doesn't look harmful in its current state, is all I can say.

>>113396

That removes a lot of anxiety for me.

OP, what would you recommend to aid the transformation process?

Something helping me/us to gain new insights and aid the unfolding process

>>113403

In trying to come up with something all I get is an image of old trees and leaves on the ground…

Maybe what >>113369 did will help.

It's a matter of perspective, things take a very long time and move slowly, like old trees grow I suppose. If you have the chance to visit some old reservation/nature reserve and spend some time there under simple conditions that may be beneficial.

When reaching out the only thing coming back is the dry leaves on the ground, huge old trees creating a "hall" and decaying old tree branches on the ground. The smell of autumn but rather dry.

There's just something about aligning with these slow movements of nature.

>>113408

It didn't want to ask for a 'reading' because it seems like an obnoxious thing to ask, but since everyone is unashamedly asking anyway; think you can give me a go?

>>113408

Please may I have a reading to see if anything happened at all? I'm still very skeptical about magic (quite frankly I still don't really believe in it despite all these cultist theatrics. I've definitely been locked in deep soul searching meditations to confront and come to terms with my flaws but other than that, nothing much happened.

>>113420

>Still don't believe in magic

If you've gotten past the main hurdle which is the cognitive dissonance that prevents most mundanes from even considering it, what you need to do now is grab a basic sigil tutorial and start making sigils for easy things, storing them in an envelope somewhere and activating them at least a month later (so that you forget their meaning) in astrologically favorable days. Burn them using a candle of the color of the planet of the hour and chant a prayer (or the Kabbalah godname) to get into the trance.

Forget about being fucking immortal for now. Cast for things such as a free meal, finding something you lost and forgot, finding money, an unexpected trip, business opportunities, etc.

>>113420

Btw don't think casting for easy things is lame. If you don't really believe yet, even the most basic things will blow your conception of reality straight out of your fucking mind.

Good luck.

>>113420

>>113411

>it seems like an obnoxious thing

It's ok with a few asking but I feel this is taking over now, this isn't a divination thread.

I already said several times that it may take 3 - 6 months. Apart from some initial readings to see how the spell develops at first, it's not needed to check every other day. Just be patient.

Someone may be attempting to talk to me in my dreams I suppose.

I had a dream that someone was talking to me over a radio,for some reason I was more content thinking I was imagining it but then I saw the light on the radio turn on when I heard the voice. It was saying my name and say come here. Apparently the girl found my surprise amusing and said Boo in a teasing manner and then laughed lightly.

>>113433

I had a dream about a girl too. Beware of succubi. I never trust girls, not in wake world and not in dreamworld. And in my dream she actually wanted to have sex with me, but I got saved.

>They want your sweet sweet vampire powers

>also if you are celibate and do nofap to become a demigod they will swarm you

>>113434

They want your energy is all, not the most sinister thing.

I don’t even do nofap maybe not.

>>113436

Yeah maybe it was just a random chick or a member of the vampire cabal trying to say hi, whatever. Just watch out.

Also giving your energy to those parasites is actually pretty bad. It will stun your development and leave you weak, you'll have to recharge and heal again. You could cultivate special energy and forge your soul for months and one succubus drains it all in one night. That surely does suck.

I also had a dream about a woman, but since I had already read about it here I don't think it's anything.

Also, the real "demigod" is the one who can fap or have sex without feeling bad afterwards. Literally the same as watching a movie or having a beer with a friend.

>>113433

>>113434

Oops, also had a dream featuring some girl last night. Nothing blatantly sexual though. We were sitting at a table and drinking some stuff that made me extremely drunk/high in literally moments and started acting like some kind of comedian. Then I slipped and fell and she fell over me and I woke up. Das it mane.

There was also some conversation involved but I can't remember its subject unfortunately.

>>113434

>>113433

>the girl found my surprise amusing and said Boo in a teasing manner and then laughed lightly.

>in my dream she actually wanted to have sex with me

>>113451

>drinking some stuff that made me extremely drunk/high

This does sound like something a cabal member would do. The drink may be symbolic for the experience of drinking blood for those with bloodlust.

They have no social taboos or feelings of shame so they won't judge your "dirty desires" either. This makes it easy to instantly feel really close to them. This part may really be something like how people feel about God, that he understands everything and accepts you anyway. It could be the source of the mythology of the "undead gods" in Temple of the Vampire. I think those people may just be seeing cabal members without knowing what they're dealing with.

OP, could you talk more about the magic they do, "blackest available" sounds interesting, but a bit intimidating. Also any reading material you recommend?

>>113455

You can only practice for real after your transformation is complete. This is because it relies on being able to mentally balance on a razor blade, you can't do this if you don't fundamentally have the immortality particle in your being. The magic they practice has no "safety."

For example, the things brought up just above in this thread

>>113434

>Beware of succubi. I never trust girls

>>113439

>Also giving your energy to those parasites is actually pretty bad. It will stun your development and leave you weak, you'll have to recharge and heal again. You could cultivate special energy and forge your soul for months and one succubus drains it all in one night. That surely does suck.

None of these things will be a concern at the time you're finished with the initial process. If you encounter parasites they won't be able to take anything of value, in fact they can only help in purifying you. The things they can take are things you shouldn't have in your body.

While hostile beings and other occultists could still attack you, they will only be able to slow you down because you still have karmic debt. That's your only weakness, and every time they do manage to do something against you, that particular route of attack will no longer exist after that because they destroyed the karma when attacking you. This means you will only get stronger from hostilities.

So while you currently need to worry about shielding your body and not losing energy, in the future you only need to focus on offense. At least as far as your body is concerned. Protecting your material assets is more complicated and may require some attention if you want to keep things tidy though.

Specific spells will be taught directly through telepathy by cabal members, the manuals are often complex mental images in several dimensions. Writing them down and spreading them doesn't happen on any significant scale from what I know.

>become immortal

That which is created is destroyed. That which is eternal is everlasting.

>>113458

I guess a consciousness that was created for a specific purpose loses its original form after several hundreds of millennia of unnatural life. Is purpose and meaning everlasting?

>>113458

Technically it's just extending your lifespan a lot rather than immortality.

I've been feeling changes, but I won't talk about them while they're ongoing.

btw OP, while something is indeed happening, I don't really believe this immortality thing is really literally real. Is that a problem for it to work?

>>113465

Emotions and desires don't change, but they're seperated from the human condition of - like someone on /x/ put it - having to grow up fast, worry about college plans and marriage. When you have time, you can let things take time.

>>113467

For many things I'm a sceptic myself, it's just that occult things tend to often prove their existence to me against my disbelief in them. I test something to see if there really is anything behind it, and sometimes there are results. Other sceptics tend to stay with the idea that people making unusual claims are just doing it for attention. But considering the social shaming against these sorts of things in general that explanation never sounded reasonable to me. I just weight things against each other and find a spot where something can be tested.

I don't usually frequent 4/x/, but today I found this:

https://www.docdroid.net/aiUKBNj/elizabeth.pdf

She said 30-something was too old to turn and not die. I'm 31. Should I be worried I'm not gonna make it?

>>113471

Read it, pretty ridiculous stuff, the author didn't even bother to close the plot holes:

on page 113 she claims she was unconscious when she was being transformed and thus doesn't remember it, but later on page 127-128 she describes it all in details.

>>113472

>>113471

She may be legit but some things in the story doesn't add up, it may be intentional misinformation to create confusion. Going by certain things I won't elaborate this now, maybe later I don't think she ever killed anyone, that part is an exaggeration to create an amusing story. The inconsistances may be intentional to make people focus on that and not see the real bullshit. It's a pretty simple tactic. She's also one of those with the weak version of the magic (dies after a maximum of 1000 years), one simple sign to tell is that she's acting offended over sexual questions. Real one's don't care.

Going by her signature she's pretty refined compared to those I've seen posting on 4/x/ (those also act offended by sexual questions) before and the one's operating close to where I live. It's obvious they couldn't be killing people every day in a small place like this and go unnoticed. The city that's their center is a mess of violence, drugs and political abuse and people under their influence have their energy all over them. But that many murders couldn't be covered up. To say it straight out I don't like most of those "weak" vampires, they're causing lots of disturbances, to the point their field effected my mental state. I told them to back off telepathically but they refused so I blocked them from using telepathy in this area of the country. They could choose a more pleasant approach but they didn't because they're assholes.

OP, for now I won't update on what's happening. Nonetheless when you had the feeling of old trees i had a magnet feeling between my eyes lasting for 3 hours.

Anyhow I had a feeling today that you more or less know a particular set of entities.

Jenyah and Sabirah among these.

>>113478

>casually dropping vampire names

Shit's getting real yo

>>113479

It's just a feeling, dude. don't larp, because i'm trying to make sense of things happened in the past with things happening right now

>>113479

>Sabirah

side note: these two names are taken from a particular esoteric tradition, not from nerdy/geeky bs

>>113478

The way my telepathic ability functions is by translation, it doesn't come through in the exact wording so I couldn't tell you their exact real names even if they had told me. I know the names they use officially for some of them and I suspect they may be using their real names because they're old eastern european names. Blends in fine here considering all the quest workers. The amount you can get away with is pretty big, if someone was named Vlad and wore a cape people still wouldn't make the connection because these things don't exist in real life anyway. Arrogance is a shield.

>Nonetheless when you had the feeling of old trees i had a magnet feeling between my eyes lasting for 3 hours.

I really tried to find something but it's too complex, words don't describe this properly. It's like learning to wave your ears.

>Anyhow I had a feeling today that you more or less know a particular set of entities.

It's as I said above in the thread. I interact mostly with three women, the researchers (unspecified) and sometimes a group who seem like court ladies. We don't talk a lot, I share my findings and they support me in return, it's an exchange.

There is someone who had the wrong blood type who still wasn't transformed at 800 years of age. I got her over on my version of the spell after they sent her to me. Kind of a close call really. I feel responsible to care about her now. I'm not entirely sure but I'm starting to see a hierarchy based on merits of some kind. It may turn out I broke a few steps on the ladder without knowing it.

Op, i'm >>112830

i'm not very sure it's working on me

just to make sure, I would like a manual cast

I send messages on different occasions, saying "I'm interested in your magic" and things like that, but maybe I do not have the ability to communicate telepathically

If it is not my Wyrd, I will accept it.

Either way, thanks.

>>113476

>one simple sign to tell is that she's acting offended over sexual questions. Real one's don't care.

How do vampires relate to sexuality? Is there a kind of 'anything goes attitude', or what?

>>113486

You think "wyrd" means destiny, but there is an even older acception that is "one who is wyrd". That is, one whose life is influenced by certain spirits towards certain end.

You have the ability to chose your wyrd, to a certain extent. Seek out new allies.

And have some fucking patience for fuck's sake.

>>113487

The immortals are not infertile physiologically speaking but getting one pregnant (or the other way around) is a tricky matter. Their bodies look energetically like dried up river beds, everything preserved but no water running. If you manage to "flood" them it can be done still.

Other than that it seems the males are more or less asexual after they get a bit older while the females tend to have an obsession with giving blowjobs, at least a group of them.

For the untransformed ones running on the half assed versions of the spell they are not technically undead so they function like humans, it may work or it may not.

I had a dream where I felt like I was something was coming after me but it was just someone I knew.

Then I went to Brazil where I tried to get this guy to stop from killing a beautiful women but then I discovered we were in brazil and I let him do it.

>>113489

Sure that's the 'physiology' behind it, but I more so meant the 'social' -not quite the right word- aspect behind it. There is a trend towards asexuality as one grows older but until then is sexual behaviour the same as a regular human's? Also, how do vampires relate to sexuality as a 'cultural phenomena'. There are for example groups that strongly belief in virginity and and celibacy and all that, while others belief in complete 'sexual liberation' or whatever.

Are vampires indifferent to sexuality in that sense?

>>113488

I know what Wyrd means, i know i have influence in it, but if i don't have the enough skill to take this particular chance, i'll accept it.

>>113489

My libido starts to come back after channeling enough Tera energy but releasing semen is such a huge drain it feels like years of work was lost. Since my soul star is clearly locked tight despite my best efforts to push through, I had to find a workaround. The way It seems to work is I get God to start dropping white mana stars from the sky like snow, which I can absorb and then use that mana for the semen's soul energy. The poor vampire who was doing the coaxing got singed badly from the mana so it's probably a bad idea to use it if I fully turn.

>>113490

>>113485

What's going on here? Did you double post or did 2 anon have the same dream?

>>113491

Sexual morals as we know them today comes from konfucianism in asia and christianity in the west. If you were to look at the other cultures/religions with less influence you'll find tantrism, sexual practices in taoism and a complete lack of modesty in japan, seen from our view. In earlier times the dominating views didn't have these concepts we have today (even if they have degenerated now), during primitive times there were no marriages and children were property of the tribe, the family unit didn't exist. This was from my understanding the way things functioned in prehistory, and people from those times have a very relaxed and unconcerned view of sexuality. It's just a bodily function to them. Liking something is just a preference. It's a non issue, which is why I described it the way I did.

I won't deny the reason I got a good connection with some female cabal members comes from sexual tension. It's not even at the level of them finding it amusing, it's just there, objectively, like an everyday thing.

>>113492

It's too early to say. Just be patient and lurk for a while if you don't feel anything.

>>113493

>The way It seems to work is I get God to start dropping white mana stars from the sky like snow, which I can absorb and then use that mana for the semen's soul energy. The poor vampire who was doing the coaxing got singed badly from the mana

I'm not sure what you're saying here, can you use more common language? I don't think you could do anything to a real vampire.

>>113494

I posted under anon, thought I got rid of it though

>>113494

Idk It may all just be visions of me trying to crack the problem of vampires having to draw energy from humans. When Moses was leading his followers through the desert, they started to starve, so Moses got God to rain mana down from Heaven. That story is simply what came to mind then I first saw the energy raining down so I just call it mana. The soul star is where souls go to be reabsorbed into oblivion. There are gates just below it that seem to become become closed off and locked once the vampirism starts to take hold.

>>113497

>The soul star is where souls go to be reabsorbed into oblivion. There are gates just below it that seem to become become closed off and locked once the vampirism starts to take hold.

Interesting observation. That would mean you are already inside, or your destiny has been changed with this in mind.

Hey OP while one waits for the spell to take effect, what is something that one can do to let's say "clean" oneself or get more in tune with these let's say "frequencies" or ways of thinking? I was hoping that joining a group like the one you describe would help me advance in my development but until I establish contact with them I suppose I should continue working alone.

What kind of magic do you practice? What kind of knowledge do you have? Out of so many different spiritual paths, as part of a group which is devoted to self-improvement and spiritual growth, what is your take on those different paradigms?

Since you asked for us to report stuff, here it is.

I've been feeling incredibly tired, like some do during seasonal changes. Also cranky, which is unusual in me.

Besides one dream featuring a grey haired woman, which I attribute to reading this thread, I've had daily dreams in which I berated and insulted my mother in a sadistic manner. This is something that I wouldn't do, but I feel it's some kind of repressed mommy issue bubbling up. I felt really ashamed when I woke up.

I've also had two prominent dreams featuring animals.

The first one felt like the astral enactment kind. A house cat harassed me and tried to bite me. I warned my mother (again), that if she didn't control the cat I would have to respond and kill it. I think cats might represent spirits? In this particular case, my mother wasn't her. She just looked like her. That's why I think this dream was astral enactment.

The other was a proper subconscious-driven dream. Had it tonight. I had a dog trapped in a pen and it wanted to get out. I felt it could be really dangerous if the dog got out, despite the fact that it was a very paceful animal and I was obviously making it suffer. I was afraid of it (I don't have any history or problem with dogs IRL).

Besides the stuff with the animals, I feel I'm coming to terms with my codependent realtionship with my parents. I resolved my father's side a couple of years ago while I "awakened". I think this one is more deeply embedded.

Oh, I almost forgot.

Last night before going to sleep I reached out to you in meditation so that you would guide me to these brings. I met a handful of ones. They felt old like mountains. Their bodies were all deformed like a tree gets deformed by the passage of time when all kinds of stuff grows around it. It wasn't disgusting, and I think it was symbolic. As if they were so old they didn't know how to wear a body anymore. Their vibes were neutral.

Anyway, a very tall and thin female stood out among them. She was so tall my head reached to about her hips. She extended her arm and gave me a weird kidney-looking thing to eat from her hand.

>>113509

I use a version of sigil magic of my own design. I only use each sigil once. I design it in my mind so that it ends up being a few straight or curved lines with intesections. Other people don't need to understand them, the important thing is that I fully know the meaning of every part. That vill force the spirits seeing it to refer to my mind to understand it, and they will by this be under my control. Then I use the simplest and most primitive method available. I go outside and draw the sigil in the dirt of a road, using a stick I pick from the ground, or my foot. It has to be drawn once, with full movements like calligraphy. Then I wait a few moments until I feel it "click" and the effect has beeing inserted into the surrounding (roads work better for this), after that I erase it at once and forget about it.

For simpler things I don't draw the sigil, I just visualize the process and it has the same effect.

That's about it for magic in the sense talked of here. The rest is dependent on your skills and abilities to control non-physical energy. I've been using what I learned from the time I practiced Falun Gong. Specifically the approach of "cultivation" ("xiu lian" in chinese) where you search yourself, observe and correct yourself based on what you experience in everyday life. It's not so much a method as it is a way of understanding things. For elaboration of this I'll have to refer to the source material, the book Zhuan Falun ( http://en.falundafa.org/falun-dafa-books.html ). This is a very powerful method, it's not in conflict with what we're doing here. But I suggest if you pick this up for real, that you're prepared to practice this in a focused way for at least 1-2 years, it requires a lot of work. So if you had the spell cast on you, it's my recommendation that you wait until it activated first, I don't know if there might be interference during the process.

Another group I've had contact with is completely unrelated to the cabal, they're more associated with some of the things normally discussed here on /fringe/. I haven't met them irl, they are a "hidden" society, using only telepathy but in a pretty advanced way. You could call it a facebook interface for wizards. I choose to refer to them as "the library" because they use some kind of astral entity which functions like a library.

The main point here, if you didn't see it yet, is that you need to develop your senses and you need telepathy. Not having it is like not having money or internet in the world today; you'll be left out from most of what's going on.

It's a huge step up from mundanes but if you can't make it "up here" you'll just be stuck with them, guessing and arguing but not being able to receive the real stuff.

TL:DR

This is why I started this thread, to offer a way up there for those who have the potential for it, but you need to wait for the spell to take full effect first. The only thing I can say to speed up the process would be to take a walk out away from human interference, observing changes and adapting yourself to them. Letting them guide you.

>>113515

Your dreams seem to have some strong personal symbolism. Try to analyze in depth what they could mean to you; these things are often highly personal, your mind is trying to grasp complicated phenomena from within your current ways of thinking.

The last part seems a bit like the transmission of the original magic, intimate and primitive, at a level that modern people would think of as intruding on their personal sphere.

This last part may be how it is. You mention things that made you feel ashamed, but maybe it's an expression of something you need to relax around. Sometimes harsh means are necessary and in the greater perspective it had a positive result.

That demon fucker seems to be finally dead. I've been dealing with that shit for 23 years. Even if its arrogance pissed off a lot of people and turned me into a pariah I'm at least finally free from its prison and I'm truly grateful for that.

It's been exactly 7 days now. Nothing worth mentioning transpired. All I can say is that I've been sleeping exceptionally bad . Usually I fall asleep at around 00:00-01:00, but ever since the 'spell' I've been falling asleep at around 03:00.

It's not an 'extra energy' thing either, because I sleep the same amount of hours -I've been falling asleep later, but also waking up later.

It's probably nothing, but nonetheless it coincides with the casting of the spell so I'll mention it for the sake of thoroughness. Other than that it's just same old, same old.

Shit has gotten real this afternoon.

I was doing some work and suddenly I started feeling things. There's definitely communication going on, but since it's not using words I'm going to have a bit of trouble explaining this.

>felt a vital carefree presence, powerful in the "the world is my oyster" sense

>felt this sensation grow in me as well

>feels like I want to go partying

>there's people with me

>close my eyes and concentrate on receiving

>one young girl, fooling around, laughs

>campfire, people around, relaxed atmosphere, all is chill

>more subtle stuff I can't put into words

I know this sounds like LARPing, but I shit you not. Something has made contact. always tread carefully. tricksters abound

>>112839

Is Keanu Reeves a vampire?

Don't despair, minnasan. While you wait, read The Exegesis of Philip K. Dick.

>>113540

I'll take the advice, seems like it was custom made for me. Thanks.

>>113530

One time before when I had interactions with some wizards of the lower ranks they perceived me as a 9 year old girl with an orange dress and leather boots. I received this image back from them because their minds were completely open and they failed to get past the first layer of who I am (reading someone's mind is really easy when it comes to most non-immortals).

Saying this because I get the feeling your perception is of the more symbolic nature so the way you see me could be something very far from my real life image, and this could be the reason you think you failed to contact me. Maybe you already did see me without realizing.

>>113528

>>113523

Thanks for the report.

I need to update you, OP.

I feel sad like never before without any specific materialistic or mundane reason. The fire in my chest is now a quiet constant warmth, but I feel a desperation growing inside me. It's like, I don't know, being extremely emotional about… Dunno.

I can assume it being a kind of emotional cleaning, but it's weird af. Keep track all of our reactions, OP, it's interesting to see how everyone is affected.

>>113548

It could be the beginning of letting go of sadness. You'll feel it but after a while you see the other end of it like a release and there is a feeling of "beauty" in it. It's a process, I think relating to all the built up sadness in previous lifetimes now surfacing. Some complex things from the past may be solved and you'll suddenly see why you're interacting with the people you do in this lifetime.

I had these experiences of things resurfacing and seeing that my mother in this life was a military leader for the enemy in a past life and we fought bitterly against each other. From what I understand it was as far back as the 1200s but the karmic bond was still there.

I think I have to report on something.

For the last several days I've had a weird feeling as if I'm incapable of being sad/depressed anymore. It's as if my mood is somehow being maintained only at either calm (ataraxia-like) or elevated (catharsis-like) levels. Same goes for most other negative feelings like nervousness, self-hatred, suicidal thoughts, etc. Overall it's pretty cool, I hope it sticks.

I'm >>113306 , >>113390

Also, happy new year everyone. For some reason I've an inkling that 2018 is going to be interesting.

Boy what a night. I've been astral traveling and waking in repeat for 8 hours straight.