/fringe/ - Fringe

Does anybody has books about roman pagan religion? About the gods, cults, how to call them, etc.

I want to get in touch with my roots.

If my goal is to raise kundalini, how will I know when I'm prepared?

I've practiced Qigong for 3 years and have some experience with Yin and Yang concepts.

I can direct energy in my body and express it externally and onto others to a certain extent.

My issue is that I haven't directly worked with Chakras.

Is it a matter of intuition or will there be an "AHA!" moment as I work to balance myself?

Why is this world so shit? And don't try to say it isn't, because it is

>>111061

It isn't.

>>111066

Do you have any evidence of that?

Rolled 2, 3, 2, 1 + 4 = 12 (4d4)

>>111051

Hi! Check this out. Somewhat related to your query. Let me know what you think. kthnxbye

>>111061

they say positivity is one of the most important aspects of mental growth.

>>111071

You're an idiot. Only actually conscious beings produce loosh. A bunch of simulated game characters don't.

Are hallucinations induced by sleep deprivation meaningful in anyway? Is sleep deprivation 'magical' in any way?

>>111118

Yes and yes. Your post # illustrates it well…run on 1 long enough to jump to 8. You deprive yourself enough you start to resonate in a less material way. This will draw beings to you. Mostly, beings associated with psychopomp status will try to lead you back to dreamtime. Black dog, cloaked man, boatman, skeletal figures, cat, etc. Usually you'll see whatever is relevant to your ancestry or beliefs.

>>111087

Are they simulated or one of the jillions of possible universes one could end up in? As above so below, the Matrix showed us that sentience is not bound to organic matter and the game is coded to give the populace a happiness/sadness meter with likes and dislikes. There's definitely magic in there.

>>111119

How can one learn from these things? I've experienced some of the things you describe in your posts and would like to know more.

Two questions..

1. What is the best method for believing? Clarification: I want to make myself believe that a certain state of affairs is actual, how can I convince my sub-conscious and my whole self?

2. Is there a magical system centered on trading? Or perhaps sacrificing and recieving something else? For example, I might want to trade an inch of penile length that I possess currently and recieve in return financial success or improved facial aesthetics.

>>111125

You can sacrifice time (by putting in the time to do something), loosh/emotions (by using them up for something until you're out of fucks to give and have to regenerate or strengthen the influx), and vitality (you will become sicker from doing this). Form though, such as form of your penis, doesn't really matter. You can also perform sacrifices and austerities purely to release emotions/loosh to use in a working. You can also do timeline dealings where important moments in the timeline are altered (you take different course of actions) to benefit some entity that then does stuff for you in turn.

>>111121

No just no. Cyberspaces can accumulate loosh by being used by lots of people who release their emotions in the cybermagickal environment and you can invest your own loosh into Roller Coaster Tycoon but since it's offline it's just your own loosh you're working with. Don't blabber to me about other possible universes and so on.

You can also work with God and any beings higher in the scale than you to open a great influx of loosh in a more direct and potent manner then these indirect routes.

Those game characters, unless they become animated by your own loosh and mental input, are little more than sigils / pointing to something else at best. They're the equivalent of a bunch of minerals/rocks being used.

>>111118

I only get so called hallucinations when well rested and never when sleep deprived and I have been through extensive and very bad sleep deprivation my whole life.

Sleep deprivation isn't magickal in my experience. It literally just gives you brainfog and makes you unable to think and do anything properly, nevermind conjure up any worthwhile thoughtforms.

If someone who is sleep deprived does get the attention of some neg-shit it's because neg-shit likes to attack the vulnerable, weakened, and fatigued; since they can sometimes get in easier then.

In case of long sleep deprivation though you're so weak and rundown and anhedonic that you don't attract much to you.

I would not deprive myself of sleep if I were you. If you want to experience so called "hallucinations" just have strong emotions and cultivate the opposite of anhedonia and do sense concentration exercises and make sure to look at everything around you with the mind and not just the eyes. This way you will pick up all kinds of astral shit.

>>111061

Too much accumulated spiritual debt caused by jews and egalitarians whose degeneracy has made a wreck of the world. The cycle will repeat though with another culling at some point and the character of the world will become much less shit.

>>111051

I do chakra shit and yet consider it unnecessary and kind of delusional. If you want to prepare yourself strengthen the whole nervous system; do exercises, have a diet, have mental attitudes, etc. that are all geared around making your nerves throughout your whole body numerous and strong. This will support a potent energy structure and with continued work and interaction with that structure you'll know what you're doing. I have all the 7 main chakras memorized as to their locations and the colouration for each and sometimes use the correspondences for them to bring in qualities, influences, etc. I want. You may also pay attention to your various organs though and encourage them to operate properly.

I'd have kundalini experiences but they don't seem to be that big of a deal or anything to strive for. Just focus to temporarily reach gnosis and attain very high mental state for a bit to do workings that's all you need to do there.

>>111140

I spent so much time when i was a highschooler focusing on "scenarios" that i wanted to happen, fantasizing for long periods of time (everybody did this right?), obviously i didnt know shit about this whole magick stuff but still, it was the same of what u were explaining

But, none of the "stories" that were going in my head happened, care to explain why? what was i doing wrong?

What's a good religion to refer to myself as? Technically I'm closest to Esoteric Hitlerism, but that term isn't viable for obvious reasons. A better way to phrase it might be which religions would tolerate Radical Traditionalist beliefs. Would Sufism tolerate it? It seems like lots of Buddhists and Hindus would be fine with it. Are there any Christian denominations open to actual spirituality? It seems like almost all of them are extremely materialistic, and outright fight any mysticism.

>>111182

I am experiencing the exact same conundrum. Currently, I believe Zoroastrianism to be the answer. You might want to look into it.

>>111182

I call myself Hermetic, Gnostic, or New Thought.

>>111191

Old Thought > New Thought

>>111182

Esoteric Christianity

Hey faggots. Recently I started reading a book a /pol/ack uploaded around two weeks ago. It's in Spanish so yeah, sorry. Basically it's a spanish Gnostic book that explains the creation of the world, the eight(?) kybalions, why we should be rejecting the demiurge, how to "ascend" to the true paradise via meditation, yoga and sexual tantra, etc. of course, taking this book as my only source is not a good idea. I wanted to get recommendations of good Gnostic books. Can anyone recommend me some?

I attached the book I've been reading. it's taking too long to upload. The name of the book is La Biblia III, by De Granada Ramiro, for anyone interested

>>111211

Kybalion

>>111211

Read the entirety of the Nag Hammadi scriptures, and Pistis Sophia. The Corpus Hermetica is absolutely essential reading as well.

A question for the Hitlerists:

Are Nazis Christian or Pagan? I see Nazis throwing up the salute and swastika and then proceeding to glorify Christian purity and the cross. Then I see Nazis posting the black sun while glorifying the strength of Pagan gods. I read through a thread on /christian/ about how a European was torn between Christian tradition and Pagan heritage, which lead me to believe there may be infighting within the Nazi movement itself over this. Is this really the case or is it simply a matter of an agency appropriating whatever movement they can get in to, much like how SJW operates? I was thinking about posting these thoughts on the /pol/ board but it would run the risk of being deleted, banned, and slid into oblivion. I heard this board was taken over by /pol/ moderators so I assume there are people here who can discuss this.

>>111216

Not a hitlerist but Ive observed enough of their kind here over the years to understand the answer to your question. Hitlerism is neither Christian nor Pagan, its the neo-religion of anti-zionists in a sense. Jews dont believe in Christ as their savior, nor do they like the "pagan" gods that threaten their supreme "pagan" deity. Spouting both sides they hate makes it easy to piss off or annoy them. Its just using a label to further an agenda. People use religion as an excuse all the time to act how they really want to, Hitlerism is no different.

>>111212

Already done. Thanks for the recommendation either way

>>111213

Thanks for the book(s) recommendations lads.

>>111216

Not all nazis were the same thing. Some were Christian, some Pagan, some Occultists. As a Hitlerist I am mostly interested in the SS as a spiritual order as well as Hitler as an archetype. The only answer I can give is that there was no state religion, and people were free to choose whatever they liked. Atheism is the only religion they seemed to actively dislike.

>>111220

Okay thanks for clearing that up.

>>111223

I guess that would explain why they consistently appear in folklore all around the world

laddies does anyone have a resource with info on symbols used to protect from outside influence or deter astral beings?

Like shit I can put on doors, windows, in a room etc.

What's the proper response for an initiate during this crisis engulfing the Western World, with the very real possibility that Western Civilization and the Aryan race could be extinguished? On one hand, I feel a mystic's detachment towards the affairs of the material plane, but on the other, within smolders the desire to fight back against these civilization-raping barbarians who are no better than the ignorant scum who burned down the Library of Alexandria (multiple times) or persecuted and burned pagans, gnostics, and mystics at the stake for being "witches" or "heretics". I think about how I am only able to read all these books on ancient wisdom and magic because initiates in the past were willing to sacrifice their lives to ensure the transmission of sacred teachings to future generations, and how these modern day "progressive" book-burners and the Arab death-cult they've allied with would completely eradicate this heritage for being the product of "racist white males" who oppressed poor brown people. I feel that remaining idle only helps the enemies of civilization, but if I were to follow /pol/'s lead and prepare to take up arms to fight, isn't that playing into the Archons' hands? If mankind sees this only as a material plane crisis while ignoring the spiritual angle, and falls into an orgy of violence and destruction, how could it be in anyone's best interest except for the Global Elite and the Archons feeding off all the loosh that will be released? Did the Aryan race earn this fate, and should one just accept that our civilization will come to an end like all eventually do? I have difficulty accepting that, considering all the subversion and manipulation we've endured for generations, but Western Civilization, as imperfect as it is, surely has to be worth preserving. Until the advent of the Sixth Root Race, I can't see how any other race will be able to resist the Enemies of the world and serve as a beacon for mankind as effectively as the Aryans. What is one who has embarked upon the mystic path to do?

>>111227

>What's the proper response for an initiate during this crisis engulfing the Western World, with the very real possibility that Western Civilization and the Aryan race could be extinguished?

"I literally don't give a fuck bro do whatever you want."

>>111227

>claims to be initiated

>asks other people to think for him

i shiggy diggy neophyte

Can sombody give me the link to the General Occult discussion discord?

>>111231

We stopped using the discord. We meet on r/fringemagick now.

>>111232

>>111231

>implying any discords or other such off-site chats are approved

>>111232

>>111233

I have a friend who I really like that I haven't been able to talk to in a long time, that is why I want the discord link.

>>111233

Approved by whom? The BO glittersnatch? The autistic obullshitist gay community of tripfags and namefags who migrated to fringebay? The Sissy Schizo Smiling Suicidal CRINGE WIZARD who moved to mewch?

God knows what I want for you and your life. The most important thing to do is to make you a woman. Estrogen pills in your ass to get make some money.

>>111223

So do I actually get what I ask for? And what kind of mental illness would I have to put up with? How can I contact a fairy?

>>111223

Sooo… they are pretty much demons ?

>>111235

The retarded rambling sandnigger of drama (you)?

>>111253

*SLAP SLAP*

I've been lurking on this fucking board for nearly four years now and I still don't get how loosh farming works. I don't actually plan on doing I just want to know how you guys do it. Right now all I know is that you take in someone's negative energy and re-purpose it. But I don't get the process there? How do you control the negative energy someone produces? What do you specifically use it for?

Is there a guide to what moon phases to cast which spells under or what moon phase or planet position does what? Or is astrology stuff just Wiccan mumbo jumbo? That's where I'm leaning but I'm assuming if the astrology stuff is nonsense then wouldn't empowering the moon's phases like an egregore work, or like how in Chaos Magick you can empower a court of personal Deities?

>>111256

It's just a meme. Loosh farming is extremely inefficient for humans and people who say they're doing it are just LARPing. If you really want to loosh farm you need to send the loosh to an entity which can efficiently recieve and use the energy. This is where the meme of "making a deal with the devil" comes from, you enter an entity's Sphere and fuck with people for its gain, and in return it might give you some kickbacks.

>>111258

The full moon is feminine-feminine the new moon is feminine-masculine. That's all.

>>111259

he is right

>>111260

why did the sumerian/babylonians consider the moon male. (Sin)

/r/ing Temple of Set material and books in pdf form. thanks.

>>111259

psychic vampirism is real though.

I'm relatively new to /fringe/ but am lurking. How do I manipulate objects? I find focusing my energy works a good chunk of the time, but it's not foolproof.

>>111051

If you've practiced qigong for 3 years, you're probably ready.

It took me about 4 months before I did my first kundalini rising. I spent the time working meditating eating fairly healthy (no meat, was even vegan most of the time), and it turned out alright. Just be near earth to get some yin energy in case the yang kundalini is too intense, and/or do the microcosmic orbit backward if you're getting too hot.

Maybe get some experiences with high energy states or get a reiki attunement if you want to expand energy first.

>>111141

>They're the equivalent of a bunch of minerals/rocks being used.

I would think rocks and minerals could have more potent effects since they have their own energies. If you don't believe that, try holding onto a moldavite for awhile

>>111147

I dunno. Were you imagining them in present tense and feeling what you'd feel in those situations? Did they involve specific people (gets dicey if they don't wanna do it, better to not have anyone specific in mind)?

here's a link to an article about using trees to circulate energy. Khan called it Treegong before; this has some in-depth ideas to try

https://www.lifecoachcode.com/2017/10/20/heal-yourself-chi-energy-trees-taoist-masters/

Can anyone answer this question

https://8ch.net/fringe/res/104268.html#111050

>>111147

>wanted to happen instead of feeling as if it has already happened

Look for reality creation thread in the catalog

Is there a point to lucid dreaming?

I'd think that it would only screw with any messages you might otherwise get from guides/whatever by injecting your own ideas into it, and also that the time is better spent manifesting what you want in reality. I do, however, already have (in dreams) powerful telekinesis, time manipulation, and flight abilities, which I tend to use whether lucid or not, so maybe I'm metaphorically a middle-class guy wondering why the poor folk want something that I already have.

>111283

I can't answer it with experience because I haven't paid attention to manifesting/wanted much.

You already had an answer in the thread, which was basically "intuition + try it and see".

I'm sure it depends on the type of desire you're looking for. You have to pay the price/do the accompanying work.

I can tell you that if it were me, I'd try charging something for a day or two, forget about it, try again a week later, then 2 weeks later, then 1 month later, probably.

and in the meantime taking the physical steps that will aid in manifesting what it is.

The thing is, there is no one answer except for you. Maybe get an akashic reading if you want it tailored to you but don't have a strong enough intuition yet. If you do, ask how you'd manifest whatever you're looking for.

Find it within.

-M

>>111266

sure but those people are fucking themselves up more than helping themselves, more than likely.

>>111070

We have access to this site/learning materials, the ability to forge ourselves and not sink into despair. We have such a thing as first-world countries.

Yeah it could be better.

>>111226

you could try a reiki cho ku rei. otherwise IDK

>>111227

ask a psychic/akashic reader

>>111228

yeah

>>111233

>implying anyone needs approval

-M

This board seems more quiet than before. Has someone started a better one?

>>111288

How do I into lucid dreaming

>>111294

personally can't help that much, all I had to do was affirm that I wanted to when I did it. I think enough energy/affirmation before sleep and attempting to sleep consciously (meditate yourself to sleep) would work.

you could try the stuff in here

https://8ch.net/fringe/res/86678.html

or one thing I've heard is to question/test if you're dreaming, all the time. while awake, and it'll carry over.

definitely the more lucid you are in this reality, the more lucid you will likely be in subconscious states.

>>111292

I only just now found that there is one but not too active. scroll up into the rules and there's a link called tipp's fringe bunker.

as to why it's up there when fringechan was never officially linked to, I have no idea.

and if there's another different one, I also have no idea.

-M

Does anyone know anything about Cassandra Eason? I have a book she wrote about clairvoyance and I'm wondering if it's bullshit occultism. I haven't read it yet and I don't know anything about this author, but a brief internet search mentioned both occultism and New Age so I'm not sure how useful this book will be.

>>111295

>as to why it's up there when fringechan was never officially linked to, I have no idea.

It's been linked on the board announcement for a while from what I remember. What smiley refused to do was sticky the fringechan thread.

-nigger

>>111292

AFAIK there's mewch, tipps, and this one. We're pretty split up atm.

https://mewch.net/fringe/

http://fringebay.com/fringe/

https://8ch.net/fringe/

>>111292

>>111305

This place is infinitely better when there isn't a brigade of anti-[NAME REDACTED] spammers. This is actually a pretty comfy board when there isn't drama, tripfags and constant dumb bullshit being posted everywhere.

>>111306

I agree completely

>>111305

oh was fringechan in the announcement? I didn't think it was so I wondered why tipp's would be.

>>111306

>>111307

I like tripfagging, but atm mostly so I can find my posts when I don't come here for weeks/months at a time.

Aside from that I agree

>>111264

>why did the sumerian/babylonians consider the moon male. (Sin)

Because the new moon is under the influence of Sol. The moon is basically always under the influence of something else, it's more like a tool than anything.

>>111323

>The moon is basically always under the influence of something else, it's more like a tool than anything.

You mean like a woman?

>>111227

It depends on what your soul is predestined to do.

Perhaps the best thing would be to form small individualistic communities.

>>111327

Excellent answer. I think a lot of us are such leaders and community-builders, once we empower ourselves.

>>111326

*tips*

>>111330

>I think a lot of us are such leaders and community-builders, once we empower ourselves.

Wrong

How come when I try to open my chakras sometimes I feel pressure on some but heat on others?

>>111077

>>111143

>>111272

These have all been really helpful thank you.

I’m going to shore up my mental and spiritual faculties some more and let it all happen organically.

>>111337

>open my chakras

come back in 5 years

Am I supposed to perform "The Star Ruby" before or after invoking fire majick on sigils

>>111323

Not true myth wise, astronomically you are correct, the Moon is the elder Nanna/Sin the father of the gods.

he is male and old too, Shamash the Sun is one of his children. Nanna has the upper hands and helps the younger gods when they need help.

>>111340

lol why, most people asking in here are at a similar place to that person. in 5 years that person should be able to ask in the astral and not bother with being on such a board.

>>111337

open, expand, etc. They're all probably open to some degree unless they're severely blocked.

I would think pressure indicates blockage/diffficulty handling the flow, and heat being more accustomed to it.

Both are normal.

>>111332

eh.

maybe I'm projecting. I just think with power comes some responsibility when one is ready for it. I didn't say most of us.

-M

>>111350

He already made a space theme before: https://pastebin.com/i8JJB4HS

This was made by him. Try it out.

Also kys kike, he made /fringe/ into what it is, and you have no respect for him or his legacy.

>>111352

>he made /fringe/ into what it is

In to shit? A real big achievement there.

>>111231

>Can sombody give me the link to the General Occult discussion discord?

Please help, I want to talk to my friend again.

>>111353

Say it to my face motherfucker not online.

>>111355

>>111355

Is he that south American kid who disappeared and when they went into his room found a crazy looking shrine?

>>111356

Fake and gay

Temple of set material guys pls.

>>111352

>you have no respect for him or his legacy

Distancing ourselves from him will mean the spam and shilling are far less likely to come back and maybe we could even stop the board from being run by a bunch of people who decide on the rules behind closed doors in a Skype circlejerk (although it is obviously owned by the /pol/ mods right now, allegedly). Obviously we should all be very thankful for him doing all the good things he did, but his mistakes and autism turned this board to absolute shit. Him being gone has really calmed the place down and made it way comfier.

>>111227

If you are interested in fighting, look into reverse torah rituals. Otherwise, sit around with your thumb in your ass content in the knowledge when your race is genocided you won't be around to see it. :^]

>>111390

It is better for the good people to be gone from this world than to be trapped here for any longer. This world is shit.

btw 99% of all whites are degenrates human trash, it's not a big lost. The good people died out long ago anyway

>>111391

>This world is shit.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that.

>btw 99% of all whites are degenrates human trash, it's not a big lost. The good people died out long ago anyway

What a pathetically defeatist attitude. Noblesse oblige. We live in a world that has well and truly gone mad, yes. That doesn't mean it's not worth fighting for. It's the duty of all who walk this path to advance their own souls. That being said don't appreciate your callousness to the plight of those who won't get the opportunity to do the same. They exist in a state of nescience. Many would chose the path we have if they knew the path existed in the first place.

>>111391

>btw 99% of all whites are mundane human trash, it's not a big lost. The good people died out long ago anyway

fixd. They're usually the other side of the horse shoe, baptist whites on the right and qabbalistic jews on the left. That's why Tao is the closest to true enlightenment, balance.

What's something I can do, meditation or otherwise, safely over long periods of time that will help me develop my magickal foundations?

I get sleepless nights from time to time and I'd like to do something productive rather than just toss and turn until day breaks.

>>111397

Try this

https://8ch.net/fringe/res/104268.html#104279

>>111393

>mundane

You know what type of people use labels like:

>mundane

>normie

>bluepilled

>goy

>unenlightened

Losers trying to make themselves feel special. Enjoy feeling superiour to others, it's the most you'll ever get oit of your pathetic excuse for an incarnation.

>>111388

This board is run by Glittersnatch, the current BO. Last I checked he has either one or no vols. The whole /pol/ thing was Ken Shoe having a psychotic breakdown and LARPing, all of the new accounts added were sockpuppets.

>>111401

None of them are sock puppets.

I am willing to bet money on this.

t. knower

>>111400

>them egalitarian tears though

>>111353

Into existence. There wouldn't even be a /fringe/ if not for him.

>>111391

>>111392

Saving the white race is literally the ultimate spiritual challenge because of its great difficulty.

Whoever can manage to do it has accomplished a task of such spiritual merit it outclasses anything else.

>they said the white race couldn't be saved

>so I proved them wrong and saved it

>>111402

>>111403

>>111404

>>111405

Why change your flag?

>>111407

>Not changing them on the fly according to the topic of discussion

How do increase my luck ?

I want to be the luckiest motherfucker alive I want to experience synchronicities daily I want the fortune to smile on me 24/7

>>111413

I meant "why change your flag to pretend you're not samefagging when everyone who has used this site for more than 6 months can recognize your posting style?". I know subtext is hard if you have autism but really.

Whenever I've seen occultists on the internet talk about karma, they've said that it doesn't work like popular belief says it does, but I've never been able to find an explanation of karma from an occult perspective. Could anyone explain it for me, or maybe point me in the direction of a book? Thanks.

Where can I find information on the "unobtainable female ideal"?

>>111418

"Karma" is a flawed concept in the way most people use it. It's simple cause and effect.

Actually the best way to understand it for most people is like this:

Think of mental phenomena as being analogous to material phenomena. You have protons, electrons, neutrons, atoms, molecules, life, objects. Mental phenomena work similarly.

If you can't understand what I'm pointing you at nothing you learn will do you any good.

G O D N P

O D N P G

D N P G O

N P G O D

P G O D N

G O D N P

>Cam sombody please post the Occult General Discord!

>>111424

How does healing through inheriting karmic debt work? There are some stories of Franz Bardon taking on people's karma in order to heal them (I think one of them had tuberculosis or something). Actually, another example with Franz Bardon is the story of him allegedly being the spirit of Hermes coming into his body and being forced to work through the old spirit of that physical body's karmic debt.

>>111426

You take their shit energy and become ill instead of them. Not recommended. Someone I know got psoriasis this way.

>>111418

>I've never been able to find an explanation of karma from an occult perspective. Could anyone explain it for me, or maybe point me in the direction of a book?

http://en.falundafa.org/falun-dafa-books.html

Download any version of Zhuan Falun.

>>111427

I did this a few times. One time with a woman who was severely bleeding, I managed to reduce and eventually stop the bleeding, but blood started pouring out of my mouth and there were no holes that I could touch or feel. That was a bit freaky but it was at the same time good confirmation that what I have done worked.

It does work with animals aswell (was able to heal my dog that way)

>>111433

c…could you help me?

>>111444

No Kummy Kenny, your karma would kill anyone who tried to help you.

Anyone got any good links to books on occult properties of stones? An encyclopedia or atlas kind of one would be ideal.

>>111456

as a RockMan, I simply use healing-crystals-for-you.com for 95% of my rock knowledge. They also have book recommendations. I've used the site both to find stone properties and to find new stones I want to use, to a fair degree of success.

>>111234

I don't know if it's the same discord you're talking about because I never went onto discord before now, but here's the discord link from fringebay. Maybe your friend is on there sometimes

https://discordapp.com/channels/362525668791287818/362525669361582102

How do I go about treating my tinnitus? It's very slight, but still bothersome and conventional medicine is useless.

I've tried visualising light rays hitting my ears and the back of my skull while meditating and it gives me some temporary relief, but I'm barely a neophyte, so I don't know what I'm doing.

>>111467

Thanks for the info friend

Although I'm definitely not planning to summon the spirit Jews

What do our "higher" selves get out of subjecting us to this life?

>>111489

Nobody is coming to save you, and your pussy mentality isn't going to either.

>>111468

Could you repost the link, it expired.

>>111498

First Warning

How do I stop being a coward and start doing magicks irl?

I don't want to disturb other people or my environment so I never really act, even though I know that ultimately conflict or rather interactions are the core of life itself.

All I want is peace and harmony tbh but this existence isn't intended to, it seems.

>>111509

When i click on it it works. It's gonna be closed in a day anyway though apparently, to be replaced with the fringebay irc which is linked on fringebay.

>>111489

If you assume "as above, so below", then why would you want to control your primal/lower self?

For me, I would want to control my instincts and develop them so I become a better person, and eventually refine all of me to achieve inner unity. So perhaps that's what our higher selves' goal is.

And according to some, they also have higher selves. onward into becoming the All.

>>111498

/edgy/

>>111467

Shadow work?

I’m curious but somewhat apprehensive.

I have an inclination to avoid the dark when possible. Could you please elaborate on what shadow work would entail?

Protip: if your method for enchantment involves release of strong emotions you are actually evoking opportunistic entities that take the opportunity to feed and give you enough results for you to come back.

Bypass the psychic censor with trance instead of emotion or physical sensations for a safer, cleaner method.

Since I remember, I have had this habit of getting really excited about a topic, fully submerge into it, and then get bored (or, even if I'm not bored, I can't keep with it). Over the course of the years I have observed this cycle, sometimes big (a career i left), simetimes small (this one time I became obsessed with porifera animals during, idk, three days), but can't broke it.

Now, thinking about this in retrsopect, I can see there are themes that "keep coming", things that really interest me, and I REALLY WANT to pursue knowledge on these areas, but can't maintain myself to them.

My question: Have this subject been treated by some occult writer? Is there a solution involving esoteric practices out there? I've been looking, but can't find any. Anything will be really appreciate it.

>>111536

It's called manic depression.

>>111536

See if these "interests" are not brought to the forefront by some entity influencing you.

>>111536

Law of rythm

Destiny

I had the same but it seems to have stopped recently because I became really aware of it. Now I don't have any interests and thus a lack of identity. It's really lame.

>>111535

What if I banish before enchanting? Trance state is a bit difficult for me, any tips?

>>111473

Thank you so much for this.

this thread is so gay i got aids

How do I use magick to get heaps of bitches

>>111549

Use the power of money

How can I begin to cleanse myself of impurities? I seem to be falling back into vices that I thought I had conquered when I first started the work, which is hampering my personal and spiritual development. Are there any literature or rituals to help me stay on track?

How do I attract something I can't visualise?

>>111553

use your other senses.

imagine what you'd feel if you had it, then open yourself to getting that feeling from other stuff if you want to spend less energy

>>111549

cultivate male sexual energy,

make your lower 4 chakras super-powerful/radiant,

make your energy pleasant/calm while also being energetic/deeply fulfilling/kinda sexual but maybe not in the way a person might normally think of it.

Probably feels kinda like ecstasy, a deepchill-goodfeeling.

>>111518

shadow work is simply facing your inner demons, caused by wounds/deep psychic impressions. there's a few ways to do it.

vipassana might be the easiest/most convenient if there's a center near you; they do free 10-day silent meditation retreats, and the technique emphasizes body awareness and equanimity

otherwise just try to maintain emotional distance, send love to yourself/your body, listen to it. someone said that one would have to relive traumatic events and heal them with love by standing apart from them. I've had feelings come up like this, but not visions yet.

anyway, these psychic impressions, once cleared, will open up the area for new energy, and you'll become stronger, more attractive, more loving if you're aiming for that.

In the short term, though, the wounds are coming up, and you'll be unstable emotionally and energetically before they're released.

>>111536

what this guy said. there's a swing of the pendulum, and if you overtax yourself in one direction, it takes a lot of effort not to regress in the other direction once your momentum has stopped.

>>111542

on the bright side, if you can find motivation, you can become anything you want to be if you're not distracted by former interests.

>>111535

hmm dang I hope that doens't happen to me often.

But yea def should try to meditate-chisel before using emotion-hammer.

I 2nd the question about banishing helping.

>>111552

try energy clearing daily.

http://fringebay.com/fringe/189#794

also, the vices are likely caused by something inside, and it develops in steps. we revisit old issues on higher levels.

-M

>>111518

>I have an inclination to avoid the dark when possible.

same. I don't fucks wit it or entities other than STO that I'm aware of

>>111537

I don't know if i'm there yet. Meanwhile, fighting.

>>111541

So, if that's the case, how can I tell?

>>111542

Oh, that isn't fun, is it. How comes you reached that point? I've been close to that, i mean, weeks, maybe a couple of months, laying in my bed, time passing me by. But here I am again, in the wheel, hoping this time turns at least a little better. I think this kind of things are what'll make us stronger. Good luck on your travel.

>Law of rythm

This makes a lot of sense, I'm still managing to think the problems with this logic, thank you. So, how can I commit myself to study without coming back to laziness? I'll find a way.

>Destiny

How?

>>111556

>and if you overtax yourself in one direction, it takes a lot of effort not to regress in the other direction once your momentum has stopped

Thanks! I'll think about it.

>>111119

BLACK DOG GUTS, SKELETON KNIGHT ON HORSE, BERSERK IS ABOUT A PSYCHOPOMP WARRIOR, GUARDIAN OF HUMANITY AGAINST THE FORCES OF DARKNESS.

Is it true that "V for Victory" (now known as the peace hand jesture) was an occult symbol created by Churchill to fight the power of the Swastica? if so, I will imediately stop making the peace jesture

>>111570

Saturn finger and Jupiter finger extended. Mars finger holding down the mercury and Apollo fingers to cover the moon mount.

The leaders of the death cult (Jupiter mars and Saturn) expressing power/suppressing over the life cult (mercury sun and moon)

Not created by Churchill but coopted and used to further a mission against the lower creative self affecting reality and reaching the higher energy centers.

The heil has open flow through all the fingers. Cut off the access to the creative energies and become unable to enact any real change.

Any of you cumskins anywhere near this level?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaMOlElZRJ8

Thought so LOL

>>111578

>>111582

Where did you get this from? looks like some weird semi raised-side hand heil

Is the guide to raising the kundalini on joyofsatan.org good or not?

Any books about elementals?

>>111583

Anon posted it to /pol/, I don't know its source

>>111558

>>Destiny

>How?

Sometimes one's purpose is in layers and one gets real excited about 1 project until they're finished with that part of their destiny.

I'm not the guy you're asking, but that was said in The Way of the Superior Man, that that can happen.

>>111584

Who knows. Why not use a guide from here though?

There've been 2 kundalini-raising meditations/people who have done it.

Is JoS's a long-term guide or a "do it right now" guide?

>>111600

I would ask Isis that question.

But I would imagine she'd be fine with taking that form, unless it's in her character not to want to accede to mortals.

>>111578

It is faked.

>>111607

Can someone give me an example of actual magic caught on tape?

>>111608

I doubt it. The more energy I'm emitting, the less technology seems to work around me, and I'm not even that powerful relatively.

>>111611

not to say I'm *the authority*. anyone can feel free to prove me wrong

I challenge everyone to judge nobody but themselves from today 11/13/2017 to 12/25/2017. I am fucking sick of every fucking corner of the world being some new ivory tower judgemental douche like WAAAAH IT's YOU WAAAAH I AM GOD WAAAAAAH LOOK AT WHAT HE DID WAAAAH I AM PERFECT.

EVERYONE. SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

I AM GOING TO DO THE SAME. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

HUMILITY IS FUCKING BADASS AND WILL SAVE THE WORLD.

We are currently stuck in an endless loop where even world leaders are like YOU SMELL LIKE POOP! WELL YOU SMELL LIKE BARF! WELL YOUR WIFE SUCKS! WELL YOUR KID SUCKS!

Let's fucking evolve. There is zero point to aggressive criticism. The person on the other end of the criticism won't listen, and if anything will do the opposite. It's just fucking dick waving for false confidence.

For lack of a better term, the "frequency" of this universe is fucking shit right now. (OMG YOU JUST SAID NOT TO JUDGE) [YEAH FUCK OFF I'M DOING THAT AFTER I FINISH THIS POST]. Constant fucking misery, zero cooperation, cheering on others misfortune, shit is getting fucking barbaric.

The fucking president of the USA has taken this I AM PERFECT HA HA IM BETTER THAN YOU HA HA attitude,and it spread to all his followers, and then the other side of that douchebag coin is like NO LIBERALS ARE FUCKING BETTER THAN YOU WE ARE GOD HA HA YOU SUCK YOU ARE SO DUMB FUCKING IDIOT HEAD!

Ironically, Trump is losing the power he craves, because now even if he is right about something by default a large group of people are going to say he's wrong.

Please for the sake of anything good left in this world, somebody join me in this.

>>111556

>on the bright side, if you can find motivation, you can become anything you want to be if you're not distracted by former interests.

There is no motivation really and kinda lacking imagination either so I keep grinding on pointless shit like breathing techniques.

>>111558

>How comes you reached that point?

I guess it's called getting older - becoming "mature"

>Good luck on your travel

thanks

>How?

what he says: >>111602

sometimes you get into some topics or skills only to learn some crucial thing from it (not necessarily related). Life lessons from your Higher Self - at least that's what I keep telling myself but it's hard to believe since those lessons are just basic shit all the time for me.

How can I tell if I have a spirit or if I'm just a golem?

>>111631

>>111633

Sounds like you're depressed because of your situation and you're trying to cope with it without changing anything about it or yourself as if it's the way things are meant to be. Heavy introspection and occult development would be far more useful than just accepting shitty circumstances.

>>111635

The brain of a child is like a block of uncut marble. It has many, many more neural connections than an adults, trillions more if I recall correctly. It's a brain that can become anything.

However as one ages the nonessential and unused connections are culled, creating someone who is increasingly stuck in their ways and hard to teach.

The good news though is that the brain always pumps out new neuro, even in the extreme elderly. So we can always change if we want to.

>>111637

good news indeed, feel free to answer any of the other questions if u'd like ;*

>>111616

>There is no motivation really and kinda lacking imagination either so I keep grinding on pointless shit like breathing techniques.

exactly though, some people get distracted by all the pointless crap and don't grind.

mantak chia says iirc that learning all sorts of breathing techniques doesn't have much use tho.

I think the point was just to breathe however and it's what you're doing with it energetically that counts, and then later you can learn the techniques. but if it's working for you do whatever.

if I were you I'd build up a baseline kinda thing.

your own daily ritual to make your energy/chakras solid,

> those lessons are just basic shit all the time for me.

do you learn them on a deeper level though? we revisit a lot of things on higher and finer levels as we develop. just 2 days ago I was at a thing where I realised more profoundly why I create when I grieve, and that it is the greatest thing one can do, channeling those emotions

>111620

I would think asking this points toward the former, but Idk.

>>111633

go live in an ashram or something.

go on a silent retreat maybe (vipassana).

I think if you crave attention you're in denial about the other stuff, or you have some entity influencing you to seek attention.

>>111635

>>people who are blindly confident in themselves, how do they do it?

practice.

>>y'all do any semen retention?

of course, it makes one stronger.

>>it isnt comfortable when i breath into my stomach, how to make it comfortable?

you're not used to it, and power struggles happen in the solar plexus chakra most often.

you probably have some repressed stuff in there. just keep doing it, sending energy there, massaging yourself. it'll get more comfortable over time.

>>111638

>how do i FORCE myself into an out of body state?

first time I ever astral projected I was on an excessive amount of cocaine and ecstasy.

so, stimulants will do it, but I recommend NOT doing that, especially not with caffeine, which which has awful side effects that others don't.

-M

>>111614

I think I've been trying this for a bit, but sure, I'll take you up on attempting to be more that way.

>For lack of a better term, the "frequency" of this universe is fucking shit right now. (

that's not a bad term tho.

and I think that's more of an observation that a judgment. maybe call it low rather than shit but other than that I wouldn't be offended.

>somebody join me in this.

we are. i don't think most people who are, are in these places though. They're in ashrams and yoga places and sheeit.

Newagers are probably a lot more in general the type to try this than wizards, at least initially.

I could be wrong.

In the book of knowledge it's written

"When starting the meditations described in this chapter, you must do them everyday for 1 or 2 weeks. It is safe to continue the process for 2 weeks."

Why is it bad to continue them for more than two weeks? And how much time off do I have to take before I can continue the meditations again?

>>111659

someone I met said he meditated every day for a couple weeks and then tried the microcosmic orbit and he got real fucked up.

pretty much, you don't want to overload yourself on energy. 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off is what I would try.

t. intuition

>>111635

>why are kids way better when it comes to learning skills fast, seems so efforetless to them (example : swimming). shouldnt adults learn skills faster since their "brains" are much more mature?

Look into neuroplasticity. As adult brains mature, unless they're actively learning anyway or they're doing a lot of creative things, they get worse for learning.

>people who are blindly confident in themselves, how do they do it?

That's a very broad question to ask. If you're not a confident person and you'd like to be, learn more about manifestation and related theory stuff. Otherwise, you seem to be talking about mundane chad shit, and if any of us knew about that kind of thing we wouldn't be here.

>y'all do any semen retention?

Yeah, it's pretty important for energy-related processes. That's why sex magick is a thing: you release a great deal of energy when you orgasm, and moreso when you ejaculate. Semen is meant to also astrally be something like life essence or whatever.

>it isnt comfortable when i breath into my stomach, how to make it comfortable?

What's uncomfortable about it? Is it pain? It might be that your core is weak, or that you're breathing in too much each breath to the point of completely filling your lungs.

>>111638

Sounds like you're frustrated because of too many failed attempts. That's only going to make things worse. I still haven't successfully gotten out of body yet but I've gotten aspects of the beginning of it to happen several times, and I haven't tried in a year or so. Rather than giving up what you're doing because it hasn't worked yet, take a break, try some different things and focus on other areas of the occult for a while. It might be the most exciting and well known aspect of occult development that you can do but there are many other ways you could be developing.

How do i stop feeling guilt about my thoughts?

I have had this problem since forever, When something pops up, especially related to love and romance i feel as i am shamed to death, let alone express it.

I tried writing my thoughts down, but with little success, i feel as i am waging a war against the devil himself.

I can hardly cope with this shit and i think that this is the main cause of my depression and anxienty.

t. saturn in 9th house square venus

So, here i am lacking in willpower and too pussy to fix my shit, asking you for advice.

>>111669

>especially related to love and romance i feel as i am shamed to death

Could you eleborate?

Guilt is often something we feel when we know we're doing something we're not supposed to do, but I am not entirely sure what your current situation is like, so it's hard to offer insight.

>Depression and anxiety

I also had both, fixed them by growing up and becoming a man.

I used to let my family do everything for me, but at a certain age you begin to realise you're about as interesting as a wet carrot; you become a waste of life.

This is the point in which you have to take control of your own life, without blaming your parents(or anyone for that matter) for never letting you expierence the ups and downs, and trying to train and lead yourself.

Because; The mind that is not led, will lead. Manly. P. Hall

Obviously, your situation might be completely different, but this is the most I can do.

Good luck, bud.

Question of my own;

The masonic term grand architect of the universe is used in the opening of many masonic meetings;

>Why do we call him thus?

>Because he sees our life, and the universe, as a to be completed architecture.

What you faggots think this means?

>>111676

Masonic magic comes from the same mystery pool as kabbalah. Its a path of life choosing to use pieces of life…as objects…blocks and stones…to build the castle you wish to reside in. The grand architect is synonymous with "The Lord" on surface levels and is revealed to be IMO yaldaboath or something similar at the very highest degrees.

>>111681

Everyone dies

What does jim carrey mean exactly when he talks about fame and money and how you can just ask the universe to get all you want

https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=143s&v=8S0PA5ZMfvY

>>111691

So glad to hear that other anons are on the same path as me.

Marriage is a huge disappointment IMO, my wife just did a complete 180 on her personality, the woman I married is gone. Now there's no sex, I mean zero, which I don't really mind because I'm doing nofap and working on myself, but there's constant temptation from other women and I'm moderately happy at best. So long story short, I'll look into the LHP more and keep you updated on how things are working out for me, maybe there really is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. Then again, if you really believe what people like Alan Watts tell you to be true, nothing can really make you truly happy in the end and the reason why even the Buddha was indulging in worldly pleasures is that you HAVE to do it to overcome it. Maybe that's what we have to do…

>>111700

1) lurk moar

2) listen to the man himself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUUU6TQh64w

There, now go ask Google yourself.

>>111695

>t. mundane normie

cold showers or hybrid showers? Which one's better?

>>111764

Hybrid Rainbow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBCPxOaxtBA

>>111706

>Marriage is a huge disappointment IMO, my wife just did a complete 180 on her personality, the woman I married is gone.

any commitment is disappointing when one person involved isn't committed.

I honestly don't know what I'd do in that position but I want to say I'd talk to her and then divorce if it ain't a thing.

> nothing can really make you truly happy in the end

of course not. you make you happy. That's something I learned pretty quick on the Path.

Equanimity.

All things pass.

Anicca.

What are some good places to discuss /fringe/ subjects?

>>111801

Not on the internet

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OgQ49K3Vcz8

Guys how do I aquire psionic abilities?

And yes I have read this thread: https://8ch.net/fringe/res/89391.html

>>111803

Will you please be more specific?

I'm looking for some advice

>tried astral projection unsuccessfully for a year

>focused on more important things and other areas of occult development for two years

>since last week I've had free time again

>thought I'd get into it again

>first night I use autosuggestion for dream recall again with the intention of having an OBE eventually

>hear a sudden stern, possibly frustrated voice saying "you're not ready yet"

>can't figure out why I wouldn't be ready either through reading or through meditating on it since then (last week)

I'm not looking for AP advice. I'm wondering if anyone else has experience receiving information through trance states like that. Having voices give me advice like this isn't new to me (inb4 schizo). I can never reproduce an identical thought with the same voice and expression when it happens like I can with every other thought, so I don't think it was me. I just don't seem to be very good at controlling it, and I don't know if it's intuition or some form of channeling or whatever.

>>111903

Sometimes different entities talk to you and you happen to be in a receptive state of mind so you actually hear it as a different voice. Normally the message would just slip into your own thought pattern and you'd think it was your own thought and not think about it further.

>>111905

So why am I having trouble asking questions? I've gotten it to work when I've heard other voices before but very rarely. Is the process any more complicated than just being in the same frame of mind in which I receive messages like this and thinking the question I want to ask, or is there more to it than that? It doesn't seem to be working very well but that's what I've been trying to do.

How does one clear himself of all influence from entities? And how can I remove all limitations that I might unknowingly have in my sub conscious?

Can you do magic without the help of demons ?

When using suggestions, should I start with a more believable one or a more exaggerated one to get better effects? Maybe I'm thinking about it the wrong way, if I force the over exaggerated one into my sub-conscious I'll believe it anyway won't I?

What the fuck happened this morning?

>>111912

I have that exact same door gym.

>>111911

Try tuning in by asking the entity for pictures instead, then keep your mind relaxed and empty, as if waiting for an incoming call. This was easier for me at first. If you attempt vocal communication you may experience an "echo" effect where your own thinking tends to attach to the incoming messages and repeat them. This is a mental reflex humans develop to rationalize the process of receiving external messages to make themselves believe they came up with the idea themselves. Once you manage to stop this from happening the communication will be more like a normal phone call. It's basically telepathy, you're just doing it with a non-physical rather than a human.

When sending a message, an image at first as an example, visualize it clearly and keep it simple, then when it stabilizes you let it "sit there" as if it was something objectively existing and not a part of you. Then you give it a push in the direction of the target and when you feel it as if someone grabbed it forcefully you let it go. The process with words is kind of similar.

>>111812

I would recommend growing out a rugged beard, not showering for a week or two, taking a cardboard sign with "THE END IS NIGH" written on it and approaching random strangers on the street and asking them how they're preparing for the mass spiritual awakening of humanity that's slowly taking place.

>>111914

I was about to link you to fringebay before I realised it was the exact wording there and thus it was you posting.

>>111915

I think you meant to ask "how can you" as well.

Yes. Align with Spirit.

>>111919

the last 11 days for me.

Unless you mean on this board rather than in life.

>>111962

Care to elaborate what exactly has been going on in your life for the last 11 days?

>>111912

I had one of these.

Stand a few feet away from it. Gently feel it with your astral senses. Feel its arms, appendages, whatever its body feels like.

Then slowly but firmly separate each of its limbs from its body, and its body from its mind. Rip it open, inside and out, until it is nothing but pulled bundles of thought.

Do it without emotion, but really do feel with your astral senses. Don't merely imagine it. Let the imaginal sensations take an inertia of their own. If you aren't yet at the level where you can do that, meditate more and practice active imagination, lucid dreaming and scrying/impregnating as explained in IIH.

Good luck. You emanate from a whole different density as that thoughtform, so you have nothing to fear.

>>111964

>attempt to slaughter her

Wtf am I reading? She didn't do anything hostile and this is what you suggest?! No fucking wonder some spirits turn malevolent on occultists. First off you couldn't do this unless it was a rotten spirit, secondly you are ruining your chances and creating a really bad reputation for yourself among them. Worst advice I've seen in a while tbh, but I guess the stupidity (or maybe this is a troll post meant to harm whoever falls for it) of posters here shouldn't be underestimated.

If I met an entity like that I'd try to catch her and give her a hug. You'd be surprised how far you can get with a bit of friendliness.

>>111984

Sounds reasonably likely, but doesn't matter whatsoever.

Is karma real? And if it is, is there a way to nullify it's influence?

>>112001

I'm pretty sure nobody here is advanced enough to do anything but speculate on that, given that I've heard at least 3 different answers on the subject here (2 of them might have been the same person with details).

1) yes it is, but only in the sense that what you do in one life will happen to you in another

2) no it's not

3) yes it is, but only in the sense of cause and effect

4) it is if you believe it is, if you don't/aren't vulnerable you can do whatever you want with no negative consequences

>>111996

Is there any fringe solution that can help her dementia?

>>111977

This.

Figure out what the spirit is like. Burn a candle and set some water out to purify it/guide it to light if you want.

A sorta friend of mine met a rogue spirit and her soul danced with the spirit's soul and sent it somewhere (into light I think right now but I forget, it was a year ago

>>112009

Beyond my expertise for exact solution, but I imagine channeling light and earth might help.

Maybe some rocks too. Do you want just the dementia to be better or do you want her spirit-free also?

The dementia will definitely open her up to spirits, which may be gma, may be someone pretending to be her.

>>111963

Sure. on 11/11 I went to a party thing where they had cacao.

It opened my heart and made me want to heal myself more, brought me to a place of vulnerability.

11/12 I went to another similar thing, and had some nice experiences and some not-so-nice ones, both convincing me that channeling more light is what I need to do.

So then I have been meditating 2-5 hours a day, going to yoga every other day, and feeling intense energies in myself. One of the days I went to a gongwash/soundbath/healing where they invoked archangels. One of the days I went to a group meditation where they recited maybe 500 of 1008 names of Devi (I think) along with low resonance soundhealing.

My kundalini energy which I rose awhile back is driving me nuts lol. Gotta ground myself.

>>112010

Ah thanks. Guess anythings worth a shot.

Though the ghost did manage to find gma's clothing tucked away in some drawer. Would gma's ghost be able to find her old clothing instinctively? Or do you believe the the fake ghost dug into Aunt's brain? Can they do that?

So I have a question /fringe/. last night I did something that caused me to be rather ashamed of myself. I spent most of today in thought trying to get my energy and motivation level up when I had an idea to create a mental image of my better self that I would need to be to fulfill my ambitions. In my mind this better self fought with a similar thing(?)but was more base.

When I got home I laid down and did a meditation of sorts. Where I was with this better, more ideal self and he gave me sort of instruction on how to become him. Things and people approached me that are from my waking life family, things I enjoy that aren't…healthy or would prevent me from reaching my ambition. Some of them such as attachments to some people that I would want/be able to reattach myself to once I've finished my goals become dust on the wind, where I would be able to reform a connection. while those things or people that I would not be unable to reattach myself I had to kill. And then the remains were burned to nothing. I did my best to remain emotionless while doing this as this seemed a rather serious affair.

My question here is whether or not this meditation I've been doing is actually effective or if this is simply mental fantasy. I did feel slightly different after doing this. If it did do something I don't want to become someone with absolutely zero attachments as that would be counter productive.

>>112012

They're supposed to be able to speak/plant thoughts in a person's mind. and people who don't meditate are easily led down a thought-path, so I would imagine it would be possible for a spirit to think "grandma's clothing" and a host to remember where it is, and thus find it.

I don't have experience with spirits though, and I don't know if I'd be able to divine who it is without being there.

I'd assume it is grandma, if she's not being any weirder than a human would be.

Again I ask, do you want her to be spirit-free?

Reason I ask is I could give more advice for spirit-banishing if you want it gone.

>>112014

>If it did do something I don't want to become someone with absolutely zero attachments as that would be counter productive.

everything does *something*. the more you do it, the more it does.

Zero attachments isn't necessarily counter-productive. In fact, it might be *the* most productive thing, in the sense that it makes space for manifestation.

I wonder what you think/feel about the turning to dust and the fire. More the fire I wonder about.

also I'm mildly curious about what you did yesterday but I think it's better not to answer that

I tend to use a method where I focus on doing what I need to more, listening to my heart more, and letting the unhealthy things fall away naturally, rather than burning them, so I can't say much of what effects this will have on you other than my intuition.

If I were you, I would hold off on getting rid of attachments that motivate me until I have solid good habits. In the meantime I would continue to get rid of the ones that don't serve my higher good, and try to manifest things that would help me develop in a better/healthier way than the other current attachments, by asking my higher self to help me grow with more light/joy and devoting myself to it.

>>112017

>Again I ask, do you want her to be spirit-free?

Truth be told, we're not particularly close enough that I could just do a full ritual in their house or something like that.

But any tidbits of information would be appreciated. Charms to hide somewhere perhaps?

Thanks.

>>111950

Should I actually do this or is it a joke?

>>112023

It's a conventional method at least. Up to you if you think it's good.

>>112018

When I turned them to dust I felt sad but hopeful that I would rebuild the connection one day. There were a couple things i could feel/see the better self shake his head at and he said something to the effect of "you will have to burn those eventually"

When I burned them I sprinkled some kind of powder or ash on their bodies and they were immediately consumed by fire. For some I did feel a bit sad or melancholic, others I tried t felt nothing. As though I were merely scraping mud off my boot. Thus far my mind certainly feels quieter. And I'm not feeling a desire to watch or do anything that I burned.

>>111801

>>112023

ask psychics? akashic readers if you want a reading maybe.

or just ask around with those types. healers, reiki practicioners, certain yoga places (if they do kundalini, more likely).

>>112022

You could program quartz with a divine energy and grid the 4 corners of a room/house. That's what I have in my room, keeps it a different vibe than the rest of the house. I use soul/solar light (light of sun's soul), higher purpose light. You could sage the house/person if they're cool with that, though that's more of a temporary thing.

Selenite clears energies and doesn't need to be cleared/charged often (some say never necessary).

Jet and tourmaline and fluorite and amber are protective, but they'd need to be cleared by putting them in sunlight and/or water.

I imagine there's something that could be done with charms or sigils but that's not my area of expertise.

Maybe the other fringes on mewch or fringebay could help with more answers

>>111918

bump

I don't know what it was but it wasn't exactly friendly. It wasn't ever alive either. It couldn't come into my room because of awesome

>>111964

I mean charging at her to punch her got her to go away so that was fine.

>>111977

I'd rather fuck up anything that tries to mess with me so I don't have to deal with them. I wouldn't want to try and communicate so that it tries to stick around and leech off of me.

The green eyes were reflective like animal eyes in the dark

>>112030

>And I'm not feeling a desire to watch or do anything that I burned.

That's nice.

>There were a couple things i could feel/see the better self shake his head at and he said something to the effect of "you will have to burn those eventually"

also nice that it sounds like it wasn't all of them he was referring to.

it's tough to let go of some things until you feel ready. been there. still there on some things.

is there a collective opinion on materialist athiesm?

>>112055

Yeah, we call them mundanes.

>>112038

You don't need to worry about that one in specific, I contacted her and she's at my place now. That was probably her intention anyway, I've had this happen before where different entities start haunting people to make them post about it so they get attention. There could be some obstacles that prevented them from leaving their area by their own power so they had to do this.

I'm building an organization of non-physicals so I'll take any who wants to contribute, and it's even preferable they have nasty side too so they can help with the less peaceful aspects. I know the word of this has spread among them.

>>112075

How do I manifest my dreams tbh

If / when I get reincarnated as a higher being, will I even want to help mankind? I know that I want to save the white race and all, but when my higher mind chooses a new body, is it possible that I would let myself reincarnate as a numale cuck beta male feminist? Is it possible that my higher self consider's what my physical thoughts and hopes were in this life, and honor them. Or will it simply be like when you have a dream about something such as a fetish, that in the dream you're all like "aww yeah I want to always do this!" and then you wake up and you're like "WTF why would I want to do something that screwed up?

>>112077

>then you wake up and you're like "WTF why would I want to do something that screwed up?

I think you've got it exactly right.

And if you *really* wanted it in the dream, would you try it in real life? I think so.

>>112075

>Chad

>succubi

I don't think so Tim.

>>112064

that depends on what changes you want.

i've changed my hair color a little and im growing out my facial hair without much interest/energy in it, but those are prob ez especially having kundalini risen

/fringe/ is cucked shill tumblr wicca shit.

This board is autism. Autism is more neurotypical than aspergers, which is neanderthal. None of you will accomplish anything for as long as you live in a subjective rather than misunderstood objective world. Fucking obullshitists. All the real occultists left already.

>>112082

>>112079

Sure thing, nigger.

>>112078

>Chad

>succubi

It's a joke, you autist

>>112083

This board is emasculated and you've been spirit raped by the shlomo and crying about it.

>>112010

>>111977

>her soul danced with the spirit's soul

AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH :'^))

Oh boy.

>>111977

I bet you would give anything a hug you overly friendly nu-male cuck.

Sometimes it is good to create a reputation for yourself that you cannot be fucked with and you will protect yourself and stand your ground.

>>111912

Don't be a bitch like the faggot above, if it is necessary you can show the spirit who is boss and fuck it up. So it and maybe even others will learn to respect your boundries

>>112082

> objective world

Take that shit over to /sci/ pls.

>>112091

This anon is a fucking idiot or a troll. If you want to be attacked by random entities for being a dick, follow his advice, it will definitely cause obstacles in your development.

>inb4 you need to overcome obstacles

Creating pointless trouble for yourself and then fixing the mess you created will result in absolutely zero progress, because you only solved what problems you created for yourself. After you're done, you're in the same place, all you did was waste time and energy.

>>112095

So you think one does learn nothing when he creates problems for himself and has to solve them again?

And you are scared about being attacked by some random ghost of a girl?

Yeah you rather be a spineless maggot who lets everyone walk over him and is a fraid to make a mistake, to learn anything new from challanges and maybe even is afraid to live.

Also I assume we all understand that you only attack spirits who prove hostile to you or clearly violate your boundries, your free will or prove otherwise negative to you. Of course you don't attack any beings for no fucking reason. If the ghost itself proves friendly and you want it to be around or get to know it, of course, go ahead. But if you don't want it around, if it scares you or threatens you and you rather have it gone, and it won't leave, then you can fuck it up.

>>112097

8ch really has been flooded by retards. Making friends and allies is now "spineless" and creating problems for yourself is a good way to learn. Do follow your own advice.

>>112100

isnt that why mewch fringe and fringebay popped up

>>111690

My suggestion to you would be to experiment with what you call temptation. Give into it a little at first, just for you to see what it is like. Resisting temptation = limiting yourself. You should understand how to give into temptation safely, thoughtfully, and methodically. You will find great power in that temptation. You might not like what it does to you or how it affects you, but you cannot say you understand the lessons of the devil if you cannot live as the devil.

>>111707

Yes, yes, yes to chaos magic! I would recommend firstly, Liber Null and Psychonaut, and the Liber Kaos, both by Peter J. Carroll. Neither of those books are exactly beginner friendly, but they are my two favorite of all occult reading. I read them myself as a beginner, and I feel that it definitely took me quite a while to understand, but starting with them also greatly improved my understanding of magick, more so than I feel any other books would have.

>>112077

Maybe when you wake up from this life all you'll think is "save the white race? WTF why would I want to do something that screwed up"?

>I probably wont be posting here much, this place is fucking shit as of now.

>>112109

They popped up because the BO of this /fringe/ is permabanned from 8ch and a tripfag wanted to make his own version of fringechan.

8ch overall seems to have been taken over by normalfaggots from whatever social media they tend to normally spread their cancer on. Chan culture is dead, these people take bait seriously and start arguing for 10 posts, they don't understand trolling/irony and will get butthurt for real over jokes. Just take a look at /fit/, wtf is going on over there?

>people complaining over 3DPD when someone posts body pics

>dating threads

>threads on how to lift feminists up on pedestals

>brazilians all over the place unironically complaining about Pol shitting up threads

The average IQ of this website has dropped well below 80 in the last 6 months.

>>112067

So what'd she want and how'd she find me?

>>112125

Basically the internet is fully visible to them over on the other side but they can't post on it. They know who lurks and who posts and if they want to get a message out they'll find someone who's likely to post about it and manifest something. It's not very complicated.

>>112126

What's the other side?

>>112126

So what'd she want lol

>>112120

What I meant by that was will I still want to save the white race when my higher self (in terms of montalk) still choose to reincarnate as a white race loving person, or would it/me choose to reincarnate as a black tumblr user. I am in now way saying that I dislike the white race, I was merely using that as an example

>>112129

no* way

>>112128

did you read this post or what

>>112067

> I contacted her and she's at my place now. That was probably her intention anyway,

Was 2012 the dawning of the Age of Aquarius or the next one, I think Age of Capercorn?

Also, is "Age of Aquarius" synonomous with "Epoch of Horus" from thelemetic study?

Checked out the library on diet and nutrition but where do I start? I want the best, most optimal diet. I've been eating meat and vegetables everyday but I still feel I'm missing on essential nutrients.

>>112127

>What's the other side?

It's a term I use because I cringe every time I see someone call it "the astral plane", implying it's just one plane like some huge ocean. It's just whatever isn't physical to us, but it's still physical to those living there and it's an entire world with it's own societies, borders, and it's own rules. The "other side" gives you different associations so I prefer using that term. It also includes the possibility of interaction between those in the reincarnation cycle and those actually living there permanently, which is just how it is, so it's better to just call it the other side imo.

>>112147

"The other side" is just as cringeworthy

>>112141

That's not what I was asking lol :^)

>>112128

>>112151

She wanted me to purify her and include her in my group so she can evolve as a being. I just happen to be good at utilizing someone's potential which is a win-win situation.

>>112159

So how was she defiled in the first place?

>>112159

And how is it a win-win?

>>112167

Some entities are born at the hell level and just stay there, haunting people now and then but never getting anywhere. There are no mystic schools or books down there so they can't improve themselves, they lack the knowledge. They may be able to see some parts of human society but just like mundanes who can live their entire life not understanding anything, they may not know what to do. This part is what I can offer them help with. It does not mean to have been defiled, they were just impure to begin with.

>>112168

She gets my help in improving, in turn she can do things for me using her new stronger ability.

>>112174

>who can live their entire life not understanding anything

Like you, judging by your posts?

Stop using my flag. You're no initiate.

>>112174

Used that word just because it's the opposite of purified.

Tbqh I feel used and don't like it. I just have a bad habit of being extremely spiteful and would like a reason to not hold onto this.

>>112147

Calling it the other side seems even more cringey to me but to each their own.

>>112175

I'd use the adept flag if it wasn't for all the flaming it would cause here. Going by the rank decription my achievements are way beyond initiate, but since they also included pointless theoretical knowledge of useless old books I choose not to. It's a flawed ranking system anyway, but I like the look of the hat.

If I were you I'd drop it and start using the neophyte flag, you obviously don't know even enough to judge properly if what I write is legit or not.

>>112177

What is there to hold onto? The entity who haunted you is happy now, and you won't be disturbed by her. Try seeing it from her perspective, she just did what was needed to reach a goal, no one was hurt in the process.

>>112180

She woke me up in the middle of the night and scared the shit out of me. Made me relive some bad past experiences. Can't help but be a little salty.

As a treat, keep an eye on this blog https://spirittrainchronicles.com/ for the next galactic lightship dreamflight invite (or just try anyway next saturday, it's a standing invite). They're always positive experiences. Be sure to read the instructions before attempting to join.

http://dreamwalkerdiaries.blogspot.se/2012/02/your-first-ufo-familiarization-flight.html

I've been joining these now and then since way back and always learn new things.

Is it actually possible to decalcify the pineal gland?

>>111038

Assuming Lycanthropy is real, is it permanent or does it have a cure?

>>112179

Dude it's inmediatelly obvious to anyone reading your posts you are a larping kid who has done little to no practical magical work.

>>112186

wtf am I reading?

>>112191

Depends on what you define as permanent and cure. Technically nothing is permanent but impermanence, and technically anything can be cured if you've aught energy belief and will. If you mean lycanthropy as a physical disease, I don't think so, that'd be rather far-fetched don't ya think?

>>112210

>YOU IS UNDERGOING PSYCHOSIS

>>112190

You don't have to, just git gud

>>112077

>when I get reincarnated as a higher being, will I even want to help mankind?

There are multiple stories about people that loved human kind so much, that they refused to be reincarnated as higher beings and went back in order to help their fellow humans.

>I know that I want to save the white race and all

Ey bud, no one is able to save the white race except themselves.

Anyway, don't worry too much. While it's possible for a nation to vanish from it's own misdeeds, the soul of said people will not vanish until.

Does anyone here have experience with "the rushes"

The closest explanation I have been able to find scientifically is that it is a migraine variant with hallucinations of time.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2242648

Are there any /fringe/ explanations for this phenomenon or how to control it?

>>112242

>the soul of said people will not vanish until.

UNTIL WHAT?

What is the fringe explanation behind total savants like shawn lane? How does a guy have full memory of all the books he's ever raid? Completely master several instruments by the age of 15?

>>112247

high smartness levels

I need to step it up. How can I step it up, magically?

>>111038

I'm in the mood of rereading some books and need a pdf for "How to Win Friends and Influence People". Thanks in advance.

>>112255

>How to Win Friends and Influence People

http://libgen.io/book/index.php?md5=CCDFF34CFF5D07C2E340A403EF26AB34

If I took LSD and meditated, what would the results be?

>>112281

I'm guessing you'd retain more of the high vibe, and in addition would have additional power toward whatever you tried to manifest.

>>112254

raise your kundalini.

but uh, I'd recommend getting moldavite instead.

and/or meditating on bringing in more light, affirming you're ready a few times.

also drinking pee and/or fasting.

pee drinking raises vibes uncomfortably fast.

>>112243

I have not a clue what that is and clicking on that link doesn't show me anything other than the title.

this universe is fucking shit. Lets just leave. All the OMG YOU JUST COME BACK HERE IF YOU KILL YOURSELF shit is jewish bullshit. The moment everyone leaves these kike parasites to themselves they will be forced to eat eachother until there isn't one rat in this entire computer simulation. Zero institutions will tell you this because they are selfish evil fucks and want to enslave you. All these faggot books are just dead ends. Do you think I got the balls to say this by being a fucking slave to these psychos who only know how to destroy? I'm saying this with complete confidence because it's the fucking truth. Back the fuck out and you can be free forever. This isn't even 1/9999999999999999999999999999^9999999999999999999th of what is possible. I've been to the other side and it's fucking amazing. Euphoria and creation 24/7. You are a god. Everyone is. We are all from same source but Tantrumbot Demiurge is making things difficult since literally everyone hates this jealous fuck. Cut him the fuck off. If you ever encounter him, just insult the low self esteem brat and he'll retreat to cry for years at a time. Killing yourself is the easiest way to get out, but if you want to torture these psycho fuck who is responsible for all suffering that ever existed before he's thrown into the trash, stick around for some chronic trolling.

If you just want to increase your standing in the 27th circle of hell, be my guest, but you and I both know how this ends.

>>112284

I'll drink pee idc, my own pee?

About kundalini, are there actually quick ways of raising it? Putting aside the dangers for a moment. It seems all I ever read is some indian guy talking about how to do it "safely" and apparently slowly. What's the unsafest way to raise kundalini?

>>111038

>stopped watching porn

>can't keep my eye off of women outside

it's like replacing one addiction with another, and i feel like it's draining me, can someone elaborate on the subject, or try to explain?

also

>spend big chunks of my day fantasizing about girls from my social circle

whom is benefitting from my loosh in this case, the girls or some entities on the astral? any explanation is well appreciated!

>>112289

>t. jew

Is it wrong to steal energy from NPC people if they're not using it?

>>112298

Loosh farming is for plebs. Channel energy from the heavens. It's infinite and it isn't tainted with people's negativity.

>>112296

>whom is benefitting from my loosh

Not you, and if you want to change that you need to learn to transmute your sexual energy and channel it into creative pursuits. Also if you're any good at energy work and you start doing nofap (which you should be doing if you want to conserve loosh like you seem to) you can move the energy from your genitals back through your taint and up your spine into your brain. It recirculates that energy instead of having it just build up in your dick.

>>112271

Thanks!

>>111038

Hey, I just lost all my pdf's on Asian stuff like ninjas and tao and all of that.

Please don't call me stupid.

>>112291

yes your pee. I think others' is unhealthy, not sure, but urine therapy is always self pee.

There are ways to raise kundalini fast.

Here's the one I used (the warning is from me)

Even I think I raised mine somewhat too fast, but I sort of needed to do so to defend myself energetically.

I'd say drink your pee always for a week or 2 and you'll already be too uncomfortably buzzing with energy.

It took me a week or two to get over my aversion to it.

I recommend doing several things first. reading these:

https://8ch.net/fringe/res/88946.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20170116215731/http://fringechan.org/fringe/res/108.html

I can link more threads also.

Importantly, you need a good energybody; I'd do energywork for 6 months, at least 1 hr meditation daily, a healthy or unhealthy lack of ego, ability to ask god for mercy when you probably get fucked.

Seriously though pee and moldavite are 2 things that will make you uncomfortably energetic, as well as the meditation I mentioned.

Affirmations that you're ready for more make it so, but it's hard to keep yourself from going crazy if you're not loving/clear enough.

At least, I'm speaking from the greenpill/brownpill side. Not too interested in what indigos do to stay sane.

>>112306

>Here's the one I used (the warning is from me)

https://8ch.net/fringe/res/106266.html#106273

>>112306

https://web.archive.org/web/20160913104041/http://fringechan.org:80/fringe/res/152.html

>>112306

>>112307

>>112309

I may have a decent energybody. (I certainly don't have any trouble breathing through both nostrils, somehow I doubt that as a good litmus test.) Atleast it has improved significantly since I became aware of it at all. Usually I struggle to generate strong tactile feedback in lower chakras and I suppose the nadis. Except for one time, actually after I had been fasting, where the pressure in the third eye position was extreme and painful. I need feedback like that to diagnose blockages e.t.c.

I'm going to drink some piss and try that rock atleast. Thanks.

Does anyone know anything about soul loss/splitting?

I would like some information on how to retrieve ones soul.

Too my understanding provided you have most of it still you can just meditate/focus very deeply and slowly call it back.

>>112284

>I have not a clue what that is and clicking on that link doesn't show me anything other than the title.

I often experience (spontaneously) the sensation of time slowing / quickening.

When "the rushes" occur my surroundings feel as if they are moving in slow motion. Music will sound unusually off tempo. People that I speak to will sound like they are speaking very slowly (occasionally quickly).

I was wondering if it is just a chemical imbalance or could there be more to it?

>>112311

No idea what that's supposed to mean really. Your soul is just one, any split is merely in your perception. If you want to secure it as your own so you can't lose it, it's done by forming a contract similar to selling your soul to another entity, with the difference you name yourself as the owner. This will tell the universe to respect your integrity and no one will be able to manipulate you into losing yourself. It's pretty simple, it shouldn't require any further explanation.

>>112314

How do people get their souls back after they sell it to some entity?

>>112315

They don't. Since they gave up their fundamental free will by their own choice, they won't be able to leave the master's control. That's the nature of this type of contract, it's a mutual agreement in which both parties wants one of them to be owned by the other. No one can interfere with this.

>>112319

How do people even sell their souls though? Don't you have to be moderately knowledgeable to sucessfully call up an entity?

>>112312

It can be a chemical imbalance, but you can probably control it. Perception of time is mutable.

Any sufficiently advanced yogi/wizard/martial artist/boxer can experience time slower or faster.

Intense concentration slows down time.

>>112311

>oo my understanding provided you have most of it still you can just meditate/focus very deeply and slowly call it back.

basically what you have in that sort of case is part of your energy that you've dissociated from the rest of you.

yes, you can do it that way.

I knew a guy that does soul retrieval kinda stuff but I don't know him well enough to talk to him. I know a mutual friend though, i can ask him about it if you would like more info.

>>112320

I think if you desire it hard enough you'll call something. might not be who you'd want to call but there it is

>>112320

>How do people even sell their souls though?

Some would write a contract and burn it or hide it in the church walls or something. Some just desire it strongly. The entities who are interested in this will be constantly looking for people to capture so when they see it they'll slip a contract into their mind like a riddle, and if the person accepts the idea it's the same as signing it. The universe accepts and respects agreements like this, it's considered fully legal by everyone. Some talk about giving themselves to jesus or other spiritual beings, it's the same. This is something mostly weak people do though, even if there are fully sane individuals who just want to submit to someone as well.

>>112346

How do you cancel agreements? If I recall correctly there was some kind of contract clearing meditation

>>112347

Old contracts from your past lives can appear as karma and cause trouble for you, whatever method used you still need to figure out what the deal was.

It won't work for soul contracts, if you gave up your free will you can't undo it because you won't want to be free anymore, what you want is defined by the master.

>>112348

so if someone succesfully signs his soul away he doesn't even have the capacity anymore to want freedom for his soul?

Does prayer even work or is it simply a spiritual placebo?

>>112349

Since it happened by your own free will and it was something you desired so much you decided to give your own capability for choice away to get it, there is no way you'd even think about reversing it once done. You'd be in a constant high and not feel any uneasiness or fear of the situation at all so reversing it would be out of the question. That is the meaning of it, and why it's allowed, it's completely fair. If you do something you want and you're happy about it forever and never regret it.. it's not going to change, even if there are painful consequences, which surely do exist in the cases of people who were dumb enough to give themselves away to sadistic demons for some small profit. Even after realizing the real cost, of it, they still got what they wanted and that part won't change. If it was possible to change it, it wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Maybe you could say it's predetermind if somone will give their soul up? Depending on your view, but that would imply they didn't have free will to begin with, so… Feel free to ponder this all you want.

>>112352

prayer is manifestation and or/meditation.

it works to varying degrees based on how you do it

>>112354

I don't want a lot, but there are a few things I still desire. What is doing it the right way?

>>112353

I see, so it's safe to say anyone concerned about their freewill, still retains it?

>>112355

You're clearly a newfig so read the recommended reading list.

>>112355

depends what you want. love is different, especially if you want someone in particular.

If I something extremely tiring like 1000 pushups,go to sleep, wake up with an alarm clock 2 and then 4 hours from having gone to sleep;will I 100% sure astral proyect.

I need to astral proyect soon,I NEED to learn soon how to do it, I feel like im missing out otherwise.

what about the listening to an audibook until you AP method?

>>112359

>I NEED to learn soon how to do it, I feel like im missing out otherwise.

missing on what.

I never learned yet. I aint missing much.

It doesn't sound like you need it tbh.

If you do excessive drugs you'll probably AP. or if you come close to dying.

Have you tried this

>>112363

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/eba61919f9255f2b525a9070099520db375b4a781af40fe6931b5da202d449eb.jpg

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/18491865b0b1b93c447ea83e6336a8040b0c8174f7bc99a0c80c3f98d9eaefb1.jpg

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/d03af81305cf0c135a634e3367f57d51377cd6f76d01a69603f4247db4437784.jpg

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/bd477a07a893085e02ec5ccdd17c93933130dce3b85c61bfcbc03d4fd281270b.jpg

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/8e8703dcba527b7f7a0c60a2a33c0135513e80063f189e428aa8b7d796898bf0.jpg

Git gud.

Meditate for 5 hours in a stretch every day.

Do affirmations that you'll get it done.

You'll probably succeed within 2 weeks if you can do this.

>>112355

if you're looking to manifest just one thing you can try feeling the feelings you'd have when you haver it, during meditation.

I can maybe send you a meditation about creating with light if you want

>>112363

I believe it doesn't have to take the kind of hard work that's described by others here. I was able to AP in quick order by just setting an alarm, walking around for 5 min, and going back to sleep. Then I just roll out of my body when I am disassociated. I think the key is to keep it in your mind so that when the opportunity to AP comes around you are able to seize it.

For me the problem is not how to AP but rather what to do with it. As you may know there are many perfectly mundane people who can AP under the guise of 'lucid dreaming' but are unable to achieve something outside of that.

As you AP you may find that being lucid is not simply either/or.

In a way, you can dream a lucid dream, do you understand what that means?

I recommend not having a single sided focus on just being able to AP. Others may be more experienced, in that case they may correct me on the matter.

Does anyone have a source/archive for Viriculture? I found it a while back, and it was a fascinating read, but when I tried to find it again so I could read the whole thing, it seems the website's gone down.

Question #1:

How do i know if im doing the complete breath correctly?

Q#2:

How do i know if my posture is good? I dont do any sports and spend lot of time sitting so my head leans slightly forward

Comfy moon

I keep hearing you can use the moon for magick. Does anyone have more information? How does what you're meant to do differ from what you'd normally do? Do you have to meditate in moonlight or is it just the fact that the moon is there that matters and you can do it inside with the curtains closed? Does moon phase matter? That kind of thing.

just personal experience, but i tend to feel better on days after a full moon or near full moon. as the moon wanes i start to get more depressed (not as in depression, just mood)

maybe its all in my head though.

Any ideas on rituals for drinking urine? What is the occult symbolism? What can I use? What can I modify for individual preferences?

Are dreams "samples" of afterlives?

They seem to manifest in different ways based on how you spend your day, like karma.

They are also supposed to take place during the sun's death.

http://sosbeevfbi.ning.com/forum/topics/psychoelectronic-weapon

What can your one hundred year old books do about this, Bullshit "Cringe" Occultist?

>>112394

Dude, no. Just no. That's all I got for ya. No. No. No. There are infinite other less disgusting ways to break that barrier in your mind. Go talk to a stranger and brighten their day or something.

>>112410

>break that barrier in your mind

hm

>>112409

Sorry but people with paranoid schizophrenia shouldn't attempt occult practices, seek professional help.

>>112371

>Viriculture

what is it?

>>112388

people say new moon is for new intention, full moon is harvesting work done between the two.

Idk what waning moon would be tho.

>>112394

>What can I modify for individual preferences?

1) Intake frequency. When I started I couldn't handle drinking it all the time and had to stop for a little bit.

Also after a point, some of the urine may be excreted in poop. At that point I stopped.

2) Whether you drink morning urine which has a stronger taste/maybe effect.

3) Your diet. Meat and other animal products make it taste significantly different.

>>112400

That's an interesting idea, although my dreams don't seem karma-related most of the time.

I adventure and seek a lot in them but not so much in life.

>>112410

>Dude, no. Just no. That's all I got for ya. No. No. No. There are infinite other less disgusting ways to break that barrier in your mind. Go talk to a stranger and brighten their day or something.

What barrier?

Also, disgusting is relative.

Urine therapy is the fastest way to raise vibes, faster than dry fasting.

>>112371

>>112371

its you're lucky day anon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haha just kidding heres the archive

https://anonfile.com/Q6HdSbc8bf/https://anonfile.com/Q6HdSbc8bf/https://anonfile.com/Q6HdSbc8bf/

>>112377

wtf i SWEAR i posted a reply to this before. seems to have dispapered lol

but to reitrate (i only anwered question $2) feel the back of ur neck, if it all bent n sheieit ur postures no good. if its nice and straight and your shoulder muscles are pushing out paste ur spine than ur all good 2 go.

main points though dont push your head forward, keep your back strait< toung on mouth roof and tense ur admonibal muscle

hope this helped :–)))

>>112431

eh idk, the first one looks pretty nice

second one less so, and the third one basically looks like a rotated second one

id say go for the first, but number 2 might (maybe) be better but idk atm

Who was smiley and what happened to him?

>>112460

He's the ex-BO of this board and of other boards here and on bunkerchans. The drama surrounding his person and a group of followers has been an ongoing topic for a number of years here.

It's somewhat related to his tendency to expose himself too much, blogposting and letting everyone know his weaknesses while not being able to distance himself from people with ill intent. You could say he has a bit of incurable pathological altruism which in combination with a certain skill level creates a basis for unintentional sabotage of whatever cause he's working to achieve.

>>112457

Look in the mirror and say I am not a fucking faggot loser.

Does anyone here know how to time travel? I fucked up big time.

>>112468

What if you already did?

Librarian on fringechan said something like "control the present and then maybe you can control the past"

>>112457

You *are* the effective love sigil. If you want a specific person, don't do it, but if you just want someone good for you, love yourself/develop and you'll attract someone with enough effort in yourself. Don't be too hard on yourself if you don't live up to where you should be though.

>>112467

The universe doesn't understand negatives.

That would make one become more of a loser, likely.

>>112431

>>112445

The 2nd one is the one I've always seen/the one used in Final Fantasy Tactics

>>112465

first description I've heard of him that sounds even slightly complementary.

nice.

>>112468

You can AP to the past, but it's very concrete, maybe even denser than our plane, so unless you're a magus you won't have enough energy to change it

>>112470

What do you mean by that?

>>112474

I can already shift into alternate universes of our plain. I don't feel weaker. What do you think?

>>112485

Oh no I don't mean you'll feel weaker while on that plane, I mean, for instance, you can roughly estimate your relative bioenergy by trying to move a foreign object in the astral, you'll know it's foreign if after you move it and take your awareness off of it the first few times, it reappears back in it's original spot. Anyway, I didn't think altering the past was possible until a while ago, cause whenever I tried to move shit in the past it just wouldn't budge, and honestly I've never tried it successfully myself simply cause I think it's a waste of time, but it has to work otherwise the Mandela Effect couldn't happen

>>112486

You won't be able to change major things in the past because then you'd have to be able to change them in the present. So if your actions caused a problem for you today and you can't fix it today, you can't fix it in the past either. It's the same weight because you're trying to lift the entire thing from the past to the present.

But in the case of berenstein type stuff it can be done if there are no major karmic reliances involved, which I think it's safe to say there isn't since it's just a letter that's moved.

Trying to change the outcome of WW2 or something on that scale would be the same as being able to change the world into the resulting state today instantly, from what place in time it's done isn't important, it's equally impossible.

>>112487

Good post, makes sense

>>112497

Yeah your post makes so much sense! You did it Bullshit Occultist! You, and not douchebag meahead psychopath cops now run the world! We are no longer in a police state! Endless wars are over! You did it! You are so fucking magikul dude! That drum circle cocaine and gossip session at electric dance festival just gave us world peace! You did it reddit!

>>112487

>it's equally impossible

It's equally possible.

Difficult, yes. Insanely difficult, yes.

>>112513

t. mundane

>>112485

>What do you mean by that?

I said 2 things but I'll answer 1 because other guy answered the other as well as I could.

"You won't be able to change major things in the past because then you'd have to be able to change them in the present."

Actually the "maybe you already did" doesn't necessarily need explanation so I assume you were asking about the other. The way I assumed it was more along the lines of "control exactly what you feel and what happens around you and then you can travel time".

But why not assume you did change the past and you got sent back with the energy and not the memory of it.

Align higher.

Bad things happen so we know to turn toward the good things/to get out of our rut. At least, this is true for me. All of my darkness is turning into greater light.

>>112514

You've been trying to push this t. Faggot t. Davis t. Bracket thing for months now. Nobody likes it. Shut the fuck up or kill yourself autistic faggot.