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 No.101658

I'm going tomorrow on a weeklong buddhistic retreat and was wondering if anyone experienced or otherwise streetwise could give some knowledge that could be of use?

Also, wouldn't mind reading some of your own thoughts and experiences regarding retreats in general.

 No.101660

On second thought, you don't have to write anything (unless you simply want to share something) but think I'll just go there and just see what happens.

Peace


 No.101673

I wouldn't mind reading a synopsis of your experience at said retreat. Be interesting to read a fringe perspective.

Seen a lot of monks in Thailand while there at various times. Pretty sure there's always some differences depending on the country. I always got a good vibe from the monks there though. Deeply spiritual, tuned into things.

Not sure I'd have the same vibe here in the U.S. I doubt our culture is conducive to that level of spirituality.


 No.101715

>>101673

Spoken like an xenophile.


 No.101784

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>>101715

fuck off "depends" wearing /pol/.

Cultural differences play a dramatic effect on spiritual beliefs.

The United States is typified by a kind of homogeneous pretend acceptance of "all beliefs".

Experience of these beliefs in their native culture shows less tolerance for "homogeneity" and more awareness and associated respect for the various spirits involved.

It happens. Be respectful or at least acknowledge being forewarned.


 No.101849

Good luck at the retreat anon. The trick is to make the experience for yourself. A friend of mine said he went to the Shambhala Mountain Center in Colorado and said that you were either part of the group that went there to gain knowledge of the self or the hippy dippy group that spent their days getting drunk and high and walking in the woods. I'm assuming this cost you a pretty penny. Don't waste your time and money.


 No.101914

let us know how it goes, I'm looking at taking a yearlong stay at a chinese school of kung fu taught by shaolin monks and would like to know what they're like.


 No.101917

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I went to a weekend beginner Zen retreat. it was pretty dope. met some really cool people. their big thing is non-attachment, but they're pretty attached to their rituals. but I'm pretty sure the monks were aware of the irony. 10/10 will return.


 No.101931

>>101917

The mind you are attached to told you to believe that monks are attached to rituals. The point of rituals is to be mindful and present in every action, as so much to breathe and move the fingers of the hand.

When your eye can see what happens at a ritual, you will perhaps gain insight to what actually happens at a ritual. Perhaps visit a popular church and see what lays within when you can see.


 No.102049

File: b85a257dbc929c2⋯.jpg (354.24 KB, 1024x721, 1024:721, I've seen some shit.jpg)

Alright, I'm back from the retreat.

The location was an old wooden schoolhouse located in a rural area by a lake.

The daily schedule was basically:

>7am, meditation

>breakfast

>discussion

>solitary reflection/study

>lunch

>4pm metta bhavan meditation

>reflection/study

>8pm meditation/puja

It was a good experience. Gained a couple of good insights and have developed a bit as a person.

Kinda short on words at the moment regarding it. Need to process it.

btw,

This weekend I will go on another retreat and take part in two ayahuasca ceremonies.

Have kept myself to the recommended diet and the weeklong retreat has done well to calm my mind and body.

I'm having a bit of flu (started on saturday and had to power through the retreat with a lot of mucus and now my lungs are a bit hoarse, but I think it will be over tomorrow.

Anyway,

tips on ayahuasca?


 No.102063

>>102049

>tips on ayahuasca?

Have fun shitting and pissing yourself, faggot. Why take this shit? Go mushrooms and astral project for a while and then go straight to dmt. Ayahuasca ist just this unconvinient middle thing that does way more harm than good.

(I'm just kidding you are not a faggot. friend. Infinite love and compassion)


 No.102065

>>102049

No tips, but if you have a bad reaction, the Indians will leave you to die in the forest.(in Mexico/South America.)


 No.102070

>>102063

Ayahuasca retreats tend to be fucking expensive as hell and you can't be sure that you'll trip anyway.

I paid like 300 dollars for a weekend retreat, I puked my insides out and didn't see shit. If I had known this i would have spent 50 dollars in mushrooms and have the trip of my life.

Just buy some DMT, smoke it, try salvia before paying the price they charge usually for the aya - totally not worth it unless you're lucky and get a good ceremony , with a shaman all for yourself - run away from group ceremonies, they are shit


 No.102073

>>102049

Lie down to loose yourself to the spirit world(not recommended unless alone) and sit up to have an internal-external experience. Keep comfortable and in good spirits. Stay away from anyone in poor spirits cause they'll get possessed and become portals(anyone unstable either physically or mentally). You can get more sick this way through having to overexert your abilities for protection.

And lastly remember your tummo.


 No.102166

Status report:

Alive. First aya ceremony completed, next is tonight.

I shall meditate upon the experience and won't go on writing further right now.

Ps. Did not shit or vomit, though the opportunity came. Intend to do the latter tonight since I want to experience it. The dosage will be stronger so I don't think it will even be voluntary.

>>102073

Thanks for the tummo reminder. Helped in a few situations to keep me grounded.

Peace


 No.102227

Second night/morning done.

Was.. well, quite incredible.

Only have a phone with me and want to write a longer post with a keyboard. Gonna write a proper one when I'm home and have processed all of it a bit more.

Gonna stay here a few days more to help make improvements to the tipi (reinforce the wall isolation) and then take part in the next weekend's ceremonies.

Absolutely worth it.

Peace


 No.102328

Life is pretty awesome when you realize it.


 No.102423

K, i might be able to get to a laptop soon so I can write comfortably about what happened and what will.

- first spent a week on a buddhist retreat. Met, meditated and ate with 13 other intermediate (or something) meditators. There were daily discussions regarding buddhistic teachings and the meditations were zen, metta and a handful of pujas.

Best thing about it was that one of my co-meditators pointed out that I was disturbingly noisy during meditation, which was true and it made me put greater focus on being as quiet as possible, which meant greater focus on breath, thus greater focus in general. Made a huge improvement to my practice.

- After that I came home for a day and then travelled to the ayahuasca (Uni) ceremony place.

Met good people, socialized well and helped as much as was fitting. The first ceremony was held in a tipi the landowner had built (fantastic carpenter and a good man). It was a aesthetically cozy hut, but very cold during the night, which was a bit of an energy drain.

It was good though. Cried a bit and learned to appreciate the beauty in it and how (by expressing crying/wailing/yelling/howling/emotional noise) it can be transformed into song/singin practice. I'll maybe record and post me doing it or something at some point.

My intention was to learn more about breath as a way to keep my focus on breathing as much as possible. It was interesting and came to a healthy insight of the word "choice". Also made a few mistakes in regard to proper conduct during the ceremony (1 thing was that i couldn't be between the shamans and the bonfire, second that i shouldn't stand close to the bonfire while playing djembe, so no major taboos broken). Felt a bit of the spirit and had a wonderful psychedelic moment with her as a motherfigure, which made me realize how precious a mother's love is and that i had never truly learned how to give love back. Have finally started to "get it"

Have more to write but hopefully that will be on a computer. Now it's time to Zzz

sorry for spellingmistakes

Ps. Breathe


 No.102441

The second ceremony was quite different, mainly because of since it was wo cold during the night in the tipi (ceremony was from like 11pm to 8am) that we decided to have it inside a house instead, which was warm but not quite as spacious (We, about 25 people and the two medicine women, were in this one room packed like sardines, so not so much room for dancing/kundalini yoga).

The ceremonies began with the medicine women cleansing and blessing the room, inviting the spirit of nature and other stuff I didn't understand. They were from a village in the deep brazilian woods and had quite a bit of knowledge and in the power of the medicine they were very, well, powerful.

We all then waited our turn for a glass of medicine, each getting more o less depending on their experience with the juice and what the women determined was good for you;first night i got a small amount to test the waters and the second night i got a heavier dose.

They sang songs of their people and the ir captivating and moving music was a great aid for steering the emotions toward healing.

People soon enough started to spit and throw up but I never once even felt sick except for a short while on the first night.

My intention for the night was to fully put my trust in the spirit of the medicine to do the work it needed to do to heal me, letting go of whatever barriers it would come against. I meditated, focusing on keeping my breathing steady and soon enough found myself in a very new mind dimension, something i came to feel was sort of an experience of the 4th dimension where every my mind was this blob of consciousness moving around through my focus and emotions. As long as I kept myself in the seat of the observer i could stay in one place however long, but whenever the "rational" mind started analyzing and babble the spaces fell apart/shifted to become something less.

I cry-sang quite a bita and even accompanied the music with my clarinet, which people came to appreciate.

I could really feel "the force" tangibly and used it to try some healing on my neighbours which was very interesting and pleasant. In general i seemed to have brought a good energy to the athmosphere.

At around 6am i went outside to drink 2liters of casava juice in preparation for taking Kampo (making small burns onto the skin and applying a gel made from a mucus taken from the skin of a south american frog). The casava is taken to make the kampo work and to be the thing you throw up. Kampo's main function is to cause your body to throw up this deep yellow bile and to strengthen the body in general. I was challenged to stand up during the whole process which i managed for a few minutes after the medicine had been applied until i collapsed and had to sit. It was a very physical experience, not pleasant but very good. I felt tremors, my heart was racing, it felt like having a 40Celcius fever and a bad hangover. After a while the strength of the effect calmed and i could meditate. Saw a bit of guiding visions regarding my future.


 No.102442

I did not throw up the yellow bile and so i will take Kampo again on sunday.

The most powerful day was monday. I decided to stay for the week to the next weekend and got to hang out with the shamans in a relaxed setting. Now when the ceremonies were done and most the participants had left the women were a lot more chill.

Had a good time with one of them and shared some GREAT moments (due to which i consider this monday one of the best days of my life).

I had so many realizations in regards to cause and effect and got a very good healthy glimpse into how much our subconscious effects our reality and how much we communicate sub-lingually.

It was a delicate process of keeping the peace of balance, letting go and ofc keeping on breathing.

There's a lake here by the house in which we swam and it was there that i had two very powerful moments.

One of them was that i took a moderatwly sized stone, put it on my chest and let myself sink to the bottom. I came close to a very calm and serene white space in my mind and relaxed into the prospect of letting go of this lifebu, dying then and there, and that there is always the CHOICE of dying or living. I resurfaced in a very "born again" way as i had now choosen to live out of my own volition. It was cathartic to say the least. As i walked out of the water i sang a song of life and at the crescendo on the last and highest note, having my arms to the sky a bolt of lightning struck through the air right over me.

This whole weekend helped me find my inner self/space and to connect openly with others.

Really looking forward to the coming weekend.


 No.102444

>>102423

>I was disturbingly noisy during meditation

*cringes*


 No.102450

>>102444

Yeah, I'm thankful she brought it up. Game changing insight.

Now there are two new medicine people (a couple, the woman being the mother of one of the previous shamans) who is very respected and powerful. She was the first woman to become initiated into the Arts of her culture and kinda saved her village from alcoholism and general degeneracy.

The first shamans arrived here on the same day they held the ceremony and were kinda stressed, so its nice that the new ones get to chill these two days with us. Surreal as fuck to be honest.

They (the couple and the main organizers) just left for the city to do a rape ceremony (the powder tobacco kind, not the fun kind) and i shall start isolating the tipi to make it hold warmth with a few good men. Will be fun NOT to freeze my balls off while tripping like last friday.


 No.102513

Not of the shit you wrote is profound and it can all be accomplished without drugs.

sage


 No.102522

>>102513

My intention is not to be profound, but to share a bit of my experience and as a way to keep a bit of a diary.

Though maybe fringe isn't the place for it.


 No.102525

>>102441

I've had a similar experience on dmt as your "blob of consciousness". I see it the enlightenment state. I'm finding this as the ideal state for magic. I was able to will my entire conscious formation from the core into warmth. This allowed me to holistically cultivate the fire element.

Great to read the experiences. Singing really is the greatest communication while at those levels eh.




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