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This negativity should be countered which is what I conceived this thread for; for some of which is of that, that I myself may have manifested.

I seem to attract negative energy, which I then naturally catalyze and reflect. I have no choice but to do this, as anything less would just be dehumanizing, emasculating, defeminizing, demeaning, degrading.. It would be an assault on my free will, agency and power to let it go. It is mere self-defense.

I emplore all to defend themselves for one must never let negativity fester internally, and release it immediately. When witnessing such negativity, when faced with negative perception, it must be cycled and rebounded back outwards.

That's me venting. Let it out

You guys are the closest to intellectual companions I have and I'm incredibly grateful for having 'met' and talked to all of you, thank you for being here.

>>100659

ha that reminds while high as shit me when my and my friend were arguing and my other friend is like you guys are masters at debating or something, thought he was complimenting but at the same time I could tell he thought we were rambling

then I realized the joke. we were master debating!! intellectual cirlejerking

>>100673

you are this how right now arent you

I feel unable to succeed and provide for a family. And I'm constantly haunted that I will never crawl out of this crippled economy

You wanna talk about it or just ranting.

I'd say learn to code but if you are stuck with shitty job and rent… try to cut back on expenses

i hid that post, first time i ever hid a post, wow was that depressing, like a paperback of dust in the wind soaked in tears or nicholas cages' city of angels on steroids.

>>100656

My mind keeps slipping. I don't want to lose it. I get negative and I allow it to just go out of control. I can't focus on my life if my mind is like this. I have to get back. I'm training. I'm breathing. Peace exists but I keep slipping.

Yesterday I had a pleasant experience while going to bed

I like to have a mindful experience/meditation right before I sleep, and this time I was filled with positive thoughts and good intentions, something just clicked inside me and I was feeling great and I felt I loved all the people close to me, I forgive those who did me wrong and I ask pardon for those I ever insulted, it really felt sincere.

I wouldn't be able to get to where I am right now without you guys, so I'd like to say that I appreciate you all, I've had more meaningful conversations with people here than in some other pages, sure, there might be more "intellectual"/highbrow places, but this is the only place I know of where I can talk about spirituality. I hope everyone has a good meaningful life too.

Now, I don't really do "magick" the way some of you like to, with rituals or things like that, I just like to have a good attitude in life and develop my spiritual side, because it has impacted my life positively, so in many ways I'm very far away from some of the members, but I take everything I can learn from this.

falling is pretty peaceful. floating too. depends on what element my mood is in. I wonder if I could force my mood. oh well flowing is much fun. forcing direction is cool too

I don't often feel grounded though. if I ever try feels like I'm, as they say, "stuck between a rock and a hard place"

I used to believe that I could never do anything that would matter to the world, but I realized that everyone is stupid and once you smarten up and fix your life properly you can actually do anything, at the very least because of the internet. before you needed capital, investment, some money to get started but in the modern age you can do anything slightly new and get money for it.

humanity literally hasn't caught up with it's own inventions

also if someone could 'invent' some decentralized technologies and protocols that'd be great

>>100675

needs moar dubstep. being high is the only thing I need to feel right now. there's a lot happening that I don't need to feel, so I will only feel music and be high music is good enough, deep melodic distracting enough to get lost in, loud enough so I don't hear my thoughts

>>100656

Wouldn't his thread just engender more negativity by its release?

>>100714

I'm better off now than I was and I'm grateful for that. You've all helped me a lot as well thank you for everything

>>100701

Are you in Ontario?

Hey guys I have to deal with a lot of really fucking negative people and therefore have abnormal levels of experience in processing this shit. I have not yet attained the higher levels of mastery needed to overcome the extreme negativity of the people I have to deal with, but anyways… lets see if this helps anyone here.

1. Take not seriously the negative bullshit of others. Laugh it off, disregard it, even humiliate it. Don't let them sink you down. When someone gets mad or overly depressed, you need to me like an air spirit (sylph).

2. Note the reality of what is being said, unemotionally, unreactively. With neutrality. Deal with it methodically; in other words don't ignore negative shit (unless it's safe to ignore) deal with it.

3. Do not affirm the negative talk of others. See them not as they are but as you want them to be. If you're an evil bastard, you see them in a way that is worse, but if you're a good hearted person you see them as better than they are (so they end up becoming that way).

Oh dear, afk…

>>100701

"Picking up" women isn't the way to go. The most you could do to directly attract women is to harness confidence, love yourself, and recognize women as people too. You'd have to go out to have the attraction actually work. You can attract as hard as possible but if you're a shut in, there would be no women to attract. Drunk women are probably a lot easier if you're only interested in sex but there's the risk of picking up STD's.

I hear focusing passion on a career/hobby will attract women who are actually good, but I haven't tried it out myself. I'm unmotivated and not very passionate.

>>100719

>nd recognize women as people too

Never ever make this mistake, it'll be bite you. Recognize women as CHILDREN and you're golden.

>>100722

I know some intelligent and beautiful women I'm not romantically interested in. They exist, but are rare. Women are just typically worse than men because of gender inequality. Not that women are oppressed, they're just seen differently, different gender roles, etc.

If you are an empath feeling negative for seemingly no reason, perhaps it's because like a radio you are tuning into the negativity of other people.

I used to have this problem until I stopped associating myself with everything.

And I do mean that in more ways than one. The term dissociation is a thing in psychology and normally it's not a good thing to be too detached from the situation but you have to do it a little bit when you are way too attached.

I found the same article that helped me in reading years ago

>When someone else is in pain, it can be hard to dissociate from it. Whether you know them or not. It can also stop you from being able to help someone else. You’re of no use beyond being a warm body to commiserate, when their pain paralyzes you as much as them.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/awake-the-wheel/201305/feel-live-the-secret-life-empath

Btw I like the ranting/venting idea and it seems other's like it too.

Sometimes we don't need to hear advice, but just to let it out of the system and stop thinking about it

Likewise, those who do want to give advice, can instead also let out their personal experiences and past events that resulted in the realization of the advice in the first place, leading to impersonal and general advice directed at no one, helpful to everyone.

This is great spiritual transmutation practice. Subtly is key.

All of a sudden the negative and positive sharing of experiences are blurred and blended into one. Leaving everything up to the perceive to decide what is what, even if it is so obvious.

People don't tend to like the attention and being put on the spot. Just let it out with no promises that you will even read the responses in this thread.

It's okay, just dump your burdens and float away.

Lyrics start halfway through. I sent the lyrics to this girl in high school one time, and ended up appearing even more creepier, probably.

Someday You Will Be Loved

>>100719

don't touch a flower with the intention to pluck it, touch it with the intention to nurture it.

>>100738

that sounds weird.

I will post what I did in the question thread.

>if you were looking for a girl to marry then they probably aren't the type walking around going up to guys

>get some hobbies if you don't already, and start being social with them. like join a band or something

>I guess now that you have lame woman friends you can be friends with their friends and their friends and eventually you'll meet someone cool

>just you know, develop social skills and be social

that being said, I think if people wanted answers they'd go to the question thread.

then again some people could perhaps just be lying to themselves, some would take any answer they'd get but never ask for it

>>100730

I meant "worse" as in quality of being. Less emotional/intellectual intelligence on average.

>>100778

imo it's because they're raised to allowed to be childish and have people do things for them. If we were treated as equals we'd start to be more equal.

There are exceptional women who are emotionally/intellectually intelligent while also being attractive but women aren't raised to be that way.

I fucking hate when people doubt me or baselessly accuse me

Do not assume my ignorance, prove it to me first. how do you get the evidence first?

It's called having social skills and actually paying attention to what is being said, picking up cues and contradictions.

If you know more, them you already have the map drawn out and when I am walking into a dead end then you know.

Show the dead end, reveal the contradiction and then we'll talk.

How dare you expect anyone to take your word for it?

I swear normies are the real autists

>>100841

why don't you type out everything you know instead of being condosending because you're lazy so that i can poke some holes in your and fuck 'em?

see, you dont want to, do you?

lately work has been bullshit. i feel like i'm more responsible than people i work with who get payed more than me. i see people who don't do very much except kiss up to the boss and get attention from higher-ups, then those people get promoted. i got forced to work late last Friday night because some asshole didn't want to do his fucking job. I'm going to have to work on the fourth of July, which would be okay if I didn't feel so goddamn underappreciated.

I've been trying to quit drinking for a while. pic attached and meditation in general seem to be helping a lot. it's down to drinking a few times a week now. hope it helps somebody.

>>100893

>Chrischan

>>100891

Surely this is bait?

>>100919

>shrek

>not bait

>>100859

because carpal tunnel. maybe i'll make a website one time instead of typing the same thing over and over and over

>>100919

No, that's me, really

>>100937

Actually it wasn't supposed to be you, I just thought I'd spell it that way

>>100656

Im not sure if my (lets call it) life is going uphill or dowmhill.

Ive struggled with mental ilness and suicidal thoughts for almost five years.

There have been some periods last year that I thought my mental misery was finally over, but misery just seems to keep creeping up on me.

I dont know whats real anymore.

Am I really happy or just pretending and still depressed deep inside?

>>101037

Pretending is not bad, it's a start.

Think long and hard about how you could be happy, under what circumstances you would feel complete and try to set goals afterwards. Eliminate all negative thoughts, they serve no purpose but dragging you down into sadness.

If you want to find love, knowledge, money or whatever, just try to set an small goal. For example, working out everyday, reading a book every month, spending your money wisely, etc… When you are set on the right path, you will notice how things just make sense and you will know what to do next, but at the start you will have to motivate yourself.

I too know how depression creeps on you, it's like a rat chewing the back of your mind. Out of nothing you doubt yourself and feel terrible. I won't lie, there is no magical cure, you won't find any 12 step program where at the end you are some happy go lucky guy, you just need to work on that day by day and put effort into it. Nobody said living was easy, so you either fight or die.

We only have these bodies once, and even if we got fucked in the lottery of life, we have to make the best out of it, hell I'm a 5'4 guy from a poor family, but I still fight everyday so I can be a happy man and that in turn helps the ones around me. Love and care yourself, think about it as if you were that cool brother you never had.

I wish you the best.

>>101722

This is true, you might hate the people here, but one thing is certain, most of the dedicated users try really hard at having an spiritual life and making their lives better.

I respect people here more than the average guy on the street.

>>100701

If you're using drugs and alcohol every day, then that feeling of uselessness and incapability might jut be your brain withdrawing from the chemicals. Take like a week to stay inside to yourself, and I promise you that you will feel better being free from substances. I know that this might not be your entire issue but it will surely help I think. Keep in mind that for many people, especially those who use very frequently, marijuanna has withdrawals symptoms too. I for one get affected pretty bad. It feels like nothing matters anymore, and you can't sleep or eat. Headaches and stomachaches may also bother you. Clear out.

>>100701

Easy answer. Your body energy and mind movement arts is shit, lacking in strength and skill.

This means you have to get other shit to force the flow you need. Instead you need to generate your own flow with your own strength and skill.

The best way to do this is to take a few notes from power yoga, break dancing, and gymnastics and get on the floor and move. Can be done indoors any time, and should be done 10x a day for at least 5 minutes. Work up to 6 hours in one session, accompanied with calisthenics and other such fun.

Also, spiritual goals. Spiritual life. Aspirations are also Inspiration. Everyone around you is living in secrecy, don't pretend you don't know it. So are you. So recognize that seeing what others try to hide informs you what you're trying to hide, and you thus gain a sort of joy realizing how meaningful your suffering is "Wow I've gained like 10 lbs of insight into my prevalent human condition! I could do like 1000 lbs worth of gold with this insight!" Just find your role spiritually. Pick and choose pick and choose. What you end up choosing is often what you are, even if it takes hours or days or weeks or years it winds up to be a great choice. Don't worry if it's either too great or too silly or too humble. The spiritual journey tends to rip apart the rape babies in your perspective. Those things that aren't you but are attached like a parasite sucking out your blood. RAPE BABIES OF THE SPIRITUAL DIMENSION YO. Eliminate them. (Metal element in chinese -> Cleanse/Elimination; Alchemy useful here, transformation/figuration/mutation of your Metal from weak baby ore into strong indpenduous termator balck womyn arnie << completely transparent in meaning;;;;;;;;;; Metal = Engineering but Earth = Building/Construction, and Earth produces Metal, and the Sun might produce Metal, but fuck you we don't know that for sure and this is magic baby)

Now… focus on moving your energy upward. Depression = all your energy pooling in your feet and draining from your brain, thus decreasing brain chemicals and performance. If you can fuel the engine of your brain, you'll be content. This means, vitamins, minerals, fats, calories, get everything you need. This also means, health supplements. If you don't know, well… get ginger, turmeric, red pepper, garlic, and cleanse the shit out of yourself daily or weekly. Also, do a lot of hand and headstands. Let blood and energy build in your hands and brain. Then stand and try to do the same fighting gravity. You should feel a lot better.

If your body is clogged it has a hard time fueling the brain. Honestly I think our identification with the brain is our downfall… despite what I've said thus far. Connect to the body and it's like entering one of those organic exosuits that cling to the skin and makes you feel all tight and strong… hold up about to throw some cars. Feels good. That'll balance you out; too much brain, either you get a strong as fuck brain or you strengthen the body. The brain is the LONG way; or at least it tries 5x as hard to do the same thing as the body.

Yeah fix your stress/recovery cycle and your eb/flow cycle.

Now here's another thing: Wood element; Liver and Gallbladder; these move energy up to the top of the brain and hands, they fight gravity and shit, and are literally the element of "growth". They also feed the element of "happiness", Fire. Focus on this element more than anything, and on moving energy from your feet upward. If you feel intense blood pressure in your brain you're on the right track.

Tense your entire body in maximal or sub-maximal contraction and push some blood into your brain once a day after warming up. Start with sub-sub-maximal and move up to maximal after a few weeks. Tension defends, and that means defending against psychic attacks. When you can tense your entire body and go like Master Roshi, being an old man that turns into a fucking hulk when he flexes his shit, then you'll be golden. You'll never experience depression again, because you'll have no petty mosquitos flocking around you.

You're being drained by parasites who feed on your despair, go warrior on some cunts and stop being a faggot dyel.

>>102008

>>100701

Oh and you're not living right if you don't feel dumb and tired at least a little.

>>101799

Quality post, we are all on the same path

>>100701

I hate fake ass bitches just KYS if that is what you relate to or is likewise your role model LOL BITCH

>>100730

KYS

>misery loves company the thread

You lifeless pathetic fucks can't even post good music

>>102534

no were not we may have some similarities but in the end we all have to walk our own path.

>>102584

Different paths, same home and destination.

Another great method of cultivating positivity is to bring that actively into your physical environment. Sensory cues work great as a reminder, we become so habituated thinking in certain ways that even when we find the right choice and way we can easily forget it, fading back into our old perspectives unconsciously. I like to arrange my living space into something organised and burn incense, the scents and the physical aligning with the mental works great. It's part of the reason I think ritual can work so well, when you smell the incense you remember why you have done it (to cultivate a more pleasant and positive environment) and so then you cannot forget the steps you have made and feel more orientated towards your goal. The seeking of Truth is to live, develop, grow and move, whilst when you come to some static conclusion you are effectively dead.

>>108437

scary pic

>>108440

I think its rather beautiful but I can definitley see that interpretation. Curious isn't it how much we can project such a variety of things onto such a picture. I can see order insider of chaos, like a representation of the universe, a limited set of predetermined outputs inside of a limitless expanse of infinite possibilities.

Would anyone be interested in an art thread where we can share pictures that affect us and our interpretations on them? I find art and the occult cross over quite a bit.